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Ron Paul's Maine, Nevada, and Iowa Victories (Despite Romney Dirty Tricks)

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As Ron Paul's much-vaunted, little-understood "delegate strategy" continues, he wins yet another state (far too late to get media credit or momentum for it), Maine. That is, "wins" as in, the majority of delegates from that state seem set to vote for him at the Republican National Convention in Tampa in August. AP with the newsy details:

Ron Paul supporters took control of the Maine Republican Convention and elected a majority slate supporting the Texas congressman to the GOP national convention, party officials said. The results gave the Texas congressman a late state victory.

In votes leading to the close of the two-day Maine convention, Paul supporters were elected to 21 of the 24 delegate spots from Maine to the GOP national convention in Tampa, Fla. The 24th delegate's seat goes to party Chairman Charles Webster, who has remained uncommitted throughout the process.   

Making the Paul takeover complete was the election of Paul supporters to a majority of the state committee seats…..Romney won the February straw poll with 39 percent of the vote to Paul's 36 percent. Rick Santorum trailed with 18 percent and Newt Gingrich got 6 percent.

The story says that Romney's people aren't afraid Paul can stymie their victory, but are "mindful not to do or say anything that might anger Paul's loyal supporters." A Maine Paul fan insists she found a secret Romney supporter distributing fake slates of Paul-leaning delegates. The same is reported from Nevada, where Paul also won the most delegates this weekend (though they are bound by party rules to vote for Romney anyway), more details on that below.

*The Des Moines Register sums up the situation going out of Iowa as of now (though it ain't over yet):

The majority of Iowans on the list to go to Tampa for the GOP national convention could be aligned with Ron Paul, a presidential candidate who represents a movement focused on limited government and constitutional principles.

Of the 13 delegates and 13 alternates nominated Saturday for the national convention in Florida, just one has publicly endorsed Mitt Romney for president: Gov. Terry Branstad. And just three others publicly supported Rick Santorum, who won the Iowa caucuses but is no longer in the race.

The national delegate slate is far from complete, but if the Paul trend in the Iowa delegation continues, the upshot will be that the Iowa caucuses essentially had three winners: Romney on caucus night, Santorum after the certified vote, and Paul in the delegate count….

The at-large delegates nominated Saturday were Branstad, U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley, Margaret Stoldorf of Red Oak, Michelle Bullock of Ankeny, James Mills of Nora Springs, Steven Anders of Council Bluffs, Roger Leahy of Fairfield, Mark Hansen of Council Bluffs, William Johnson of Dubuque, Lexy Nuzum of Winterset, Andrea Bie of Waterville, David Fischer of Altoona and Drew Ivers of Webster City.

Ten of those 13 have expressed public support for Paul, such as volunteering for his campaign or donating money….

This slate next goes before the state convention in mid-June. It can be amended to replace certain delegates before a final up or down vote.

Six of the eight members of the nominating committee voting on delegates Saturday have public ties to Paul's campaign and his philosophy of limited government. But they insisted that they elected people they believe are politically active and good Republicans and have no idea who the delegates will back in Tampa. Iowa's 28 delegates are "unbound," meaning they aren't required to vote for a nominee based on the results of the caucuses.

*In Nevada, Paul people won 22 of the 25 national delegate slots open at the end of the Nevada GOP state convention in Sparks this weekend. This is despite dirty tricks from the Romney camp–Romney folk pretending to be Paul folk and distributing fake Paul delegates lists. This is discussed at both the Reno Gazette Journal and Daily Paul.

Paul himself appeared at the convention in Nevada.

More from the Las Vegas Sun on the Paul victory, and how it won't be expressed in actual votes for Paul, since the delegates are bound to follow the results of the February caucus vote, in which Romney won a majority:

But while Paul loyalists will make up the majority of the Nevada delegation, Republican rules require the first vote at the national convention to reflect the results of the Feb. 4 caucus, which Romney easily won.

That means 20 of Nevada's national delegates must vote for Romney, while eight will be free to vote for Paul in the first balloting.

Ron Paul's rEVOLution: The Man and the Movement He Inspired

While some Paul supporters voiced an intention to challenge the binding requirement, the campaign opted not to further antagonize the Republican National Committee, who has threatened not to seat the delegates if they ignore the caucus results and vote for Paul.

"We are sending a strong delegation to Tampa in August," Paul's Nevada chairman Carl Bunce said. "There are rumors that (the Paul campaign) will actively work to not follow rules and unbind our delegates. That is false; we are not doing that. Congressman Paul is an individual who wants to follow the rules, follow the Constitution and we follow that lead."

Jim DeGraffenried, the secretary of the state party, stressed party officials will not allow the national delegation to deviate from the binding caucus results.

"We will not allow anyone to break that," DeGraffenreid said. "If they do, the will revoke their delegate status and they will be replaced by alternates."…

National Republican officials characterized the Nevada convention as a "Ron Paul super bowl," noting that his supporters spent the last four years working to take over the state party structure. They've captured seats on state and county central committees, elected a state chairman and elected their own to represent Nevada at the Republican National Committee.

Some talk on Ron Paul Forums on why Paul people might have been less inclined to try to change Nevada's own state rules to unbind the delegates and allow them to vote Paul on first ballot.

*The Christian Science Monitor on Paul's Maine and Nevada victories.

*NPR finds the Republican Convention in Nevada this weekend to be as libertarian as the Libertarian Party convention held simultaneously in the state.

*My book Ron Paul's Revolution: The Man and the Movement He Inspired.

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  1. I just got back home to Dallas after seeing Ron and Rand Paul at the Tea Party Express rally in Austin this afternoon. Attendance was large and the cheers loud. Ron Paul’s certainly not going away and Romney had best get that through his head.

  2. It’s pretty funny to see TEAM RED sycophants complaining about Paulians taking advantage of the rigged rules. If they were seriously anti-establishment they would be applauding how the Paulians are exposing how absurd the system is set up.

    1. What part of “it’s Mitt’s turn” do you not under-fucking-stand?!

  3. But…but…I was under the impression that the Paul and Flopney camps were BFF’s! Their wives are friends and The Flopster is even going to give Paul a speaking spot at the RNC convention!

    How could this be?

    I’m glad you reminded us about the book, too, Doherty. It almost slipped my addled mind.

    1. Yeah, “Declaration of Independents” is really good.

      You meant “Declaration of Independents”, right?

      1. You meant “Declaration of Independents”, right?

        Of course! KMW outdid herself with that book. Very compelling, even if she shilled it worse than pimping a French hooker.

    2. How could this be?

      Because he is the Kwisatz Haderach!

      1. Or was that another Paul?

        1. If Ron were the KH, he would have used his prescience to see this coming. Also, he would have blue-within-blue eyes.

          I have considered mailing Rand some sandtrout.

          1. The spice must flow.

            /Willard

            1. The spice must flow.

              That’s how Banjos got in her present condition.

              *rimshot*

                1. Everybody on the right side of the country’s in bed. I thought it funny, if it makes you feel better.

                  1. Thank you, it does.

                    1. wait. Banjos is your wife? And she’s preggers? And what does this have to do with rimshots?

                    2. Was wondering if someone was going to engage on the “rim”thingy.

          2. KH

            Of course, I’m sure GM looks down upon the movie version.

            1. There is no “movie version”. Even David Lynch has no memory of a “movie version”.

              There was a faithful miniseries adaptation that was pretty good, however.

              1. “faithful”

                questionable. Much more so than the non-existent movie, but still questionable.

    3. How could this be?

      Because he is the Kwisatz Haderach!

      1. Fucking squirrels!

  4. If the delegates are bound to the RNC rules, I say they should challenge those rules and attempt to vote for Paul. When they are threatened with removal, they need to get the floor and ask why the RNC has begun to directly assist the Romney campaign, which is a serious breach of GOP rules.

    The whole thing is rigged, and Paul will likely play the game on the up and up, much to his peril.

    1. They’ve probably already agreed to the rules by engaging in the system as is. If they had challenged it beforehand, they might’ve had a case.

      1. Oh, they need to abide by the rules if possible. But since the RNC and Romney camps have been coordinating their campaign for the past month or so, which is against GOP rules, Paul supporters ought to bring the monkey business up. And the best way to do that might be to try and go against another rule temporarily.

        1. And the best way to do that might be to try and go against another rule temporarily.

          Two wrongs make a right? If ACORN pulled similar, if not the same tactics (and arguably did), does that make the tactic more or less sleazy?

          1. I’m not sure it’s the same. If the RNC played by the rules in the first place, Paul would be kicking Romney’s ass.

            But as a rule I never condone breaking rules one agrees to.

            1. So them make the GOP enforce Rule 38.

              “No delegate or alternate delegate shall be bound by any attempt of any state or any congressional district to impose the unit rule.”

              The Unit Rule being: “All delegates from one state or congressional district are required or bound to vote as a unit.”

  5. Isn’t this like when a team is ahead in the 9th inning and lets the other team steal bases because letting those runners score doesn’t change who wins, only the final score?

    1. Yep. Excellent analogy.

    2. It’s called defensive indifference. This is delegate indifference.

      1. If Romney had 50% of the delegates yet, the analogy might hold.

        But he doesnt.

  6. The business about trying to unbind the delegates reminds me of 1980. Remember the Kennedy supporters agitating for an “open” convention?

  7. This is despite dirty tricks from the Romney camp–Romney folk pretending to be Paul folk and distributing fake Paul delegates lists. This is discussed at both the Reno Gazette Journal and Daily Paul.

    The Romney camp was busted when a Ron Paul supporter grabbed the microphone and warned the convention floor of the bogus slate.

    Some of the people who were handing out the phony slate were detained by security officers.

    Ah, the desperation…

    although this does mean they’ll try even harder, and more covertly I believe, come the national convention

  8. The mainstream media is shitting themselves trying to cover or not cover these Paul victories. It’s kinda funny to watch.

  9. A report I got from a couple of delegates at the Nevada convention is that the Romney delegates tended to be older, the Paul delegates younger. The Paul delegates were using text messages and other smart phone apps to organize quickly, and the Romney delegates were getting irritated about that and even brought a question about it to the floor. Hilarious.

  10. The world is going the other way. Ron Paul is an old man in a dying ideology.

    1. Derp…

      …FUCKBUCKET!

      1. Do you read anything apart from your own posts and your instructions from Republican HQ?

        1. Do you even have half a clue where you are? Do you even know what a libertarian is? Do yourself a favor. Go Google libertarian and come back when you’ve educated yourself. As it is, you look the fool.

          Libertarians couldn’t be more separated from Republicans if they were Democrats.

          …FUCKBUCKET!

          1. I thought Ron Paul is running as a Republican

            1. Sharp as a tack.

              1. Oops, forgot again…

                …FUCKBUCKET!

          2. You assume Nando can read?

        2. You seem to have a little herp in your derp fuckucket.

          1. I swear there was a ‘b’ when I previewed

    2. Yeah, that whole “individual liberty and limited government” thing is just so fuddy-duddy.

  11. What is the point? Count me in as one of the folks who does not understand what Paul is doing. If he cannot gain enough delegates to win, why bother? So he gets to speak at the convention for an hour? What a waste of effort.

    1. He is molding the future.

      It isn’t about this election. It’s about the next 10. The message is getting out and the yutes are true believers. It’s about libertarians taking over the Republican party, as the SoCons did under Reagan.

      Will it work? Not impossible.

      1. It’s taking over the GOP only if they’re electing people to state executive committees and other state & local party offices, rather than just delegates to the national convention. And whether they’re doing that depends on the state party’s rules.

        It’s common practice in political parties to have some offices that are ephemeral, where you’re elected to do just 1 bit of business, namely electing a more durable body — for instance, when a county committee is elected to meet once to elect an executive committee that’s then in office for 2 yrs.

        At the nat’l level, the election of delegates is a meaningless exercise unless they elect enough of them to elect national officers, esp. chair.

        1. In the caucus states, they are dominating the committees. They turned Nevada absolutely upside-down. A nice first step that will take a much larger effort to overturn.

    2. Having enough delegates means he can hopefully influence the party come national convention, by playing kingmaker. Of course, whether a Romney would stick to any promises made is uncertain.

      Still, the delegate count is still not settled and CA is the big one to come. That won’t get him the majority needed, but will improve his chances greatly. There are multiple rounds or ballots of voting at the national convention. Comparisons have been made to Warren Harding, who came in with the least amount of delegates, and won on the 10th ballot. Though personally, I think the situation is different. Unlike back then, the current establishment is very anti-RP.

    3. It’s more than simply trying to win the Presidency. Ron Paul supporters are taking over the GOP, and this primary process provides the initiative to do so. I, myself, have been elected to my local GOP party executive committee. It may take a while to push the liberty agenda into the mainstream, and I believe that the more important work is persuasion rather than politics, but while I have the energy to do both, I will do both.

    4. What is the point?

      Romney doesnt have 50% of the delegates yet.

      Plus, what everyone else said.

    5. You mean besides taking over the party apparatus of every caucus state in the Union?

      You mean besides paving the way for his son to become president in the not so distant future?

      1. Thanks all. It still feels like wishful thinking. You can’t be kingmaker unless there is a contest. The platform doesn’t matter. And I don’t see where his efforts help his son all that much–there are too many unknowns between now and then.

  12. Romney’s people … are “mindful not to do or say anything that might anger Paul’s loyal supporters.”

    Good luck with that.

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