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A.M. Links: Day 3 of Obamacare Oral Arguments Begin, Newt Gingrich Fires One-Third of His Campaign and Replaces Them With Twitter, California Dem Accused of $7 Million Fraud

Mike Riggs | 3.28.2012 9:01 AM

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  • Newt Gingrich is going to use Twitter to make a brokered convention. 
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  • Poll: America likes Mitt Romney more than Rick Santorum; wants Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich to drop out.  
  • Sanford cops originally requested an arrest warrant for George Zimmerman, but the State Attorney's office kiboshed it. 
  • Shocker: Women voters not crazy about Republicans. 
  • Joe Biden attacks Romney for "sending jobs overseas." 

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  1. Taxpayer   13 years ago

    Get back to work, John.

    1. Jackson 5   13 years ago

      O-C-D,
      Easy as 1-2-3.
      Simple as you're crazy
      O-C-D, 1-2-3, baby you're loony!

  2. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

    Opposing view: 'Stand your ground' is misunderstood
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/o.....53795024/1

    Some individuals argue that the "stand your ground" defense has opened the door to a free-for-all shooting gallery. This is simply not true. Although the number of justifiable homicides in Florida has more than doubled since "stand your ground" was passed in 2005, the rate of violent crime in the state deceased by 23% from 2005 to 2010, according to FBI statistics. This is not to say that the "stand your ground" law in itself caused the decrease, but it certainly was a factor.

    1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

      Some individuals argue that the "stand your ground" defense has opened the door to a free-for-all shooting gallery.

      Those are the same people who feel that allowing people to own guns causes murder, and they won't be satisfied until the only people who can lawfully arm and defend themselves are agents of the state.

      1. Ice Nine   13 years ago

        More Lefty political pimping in the Trayvon case? Shocked, I tell you; shocked.

    2. o3   13 years ago

      crime is down all over the nation foo
      >it triez moar harderz

      1. Night Elf Mohawk   13 years ago

        And personal carry is up all over the nation.

        1. Drug Gangs   13 years ago

          cracker's right!

      2. Trespassers W   13 years ago

        I would personally like to thank Orrin for taking time off from his busy schedule writing YouTube comments so that he can drop these soft and scenty pellets of wisdom here at H&R.

        1. o3   13 years ago

          dont bother me when im listening to jazzradio

      3. Invisible Finger   13 years ago

        Which only makes me wonder if the stats are being juked.

    3. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

      Might part of the issue be that previously criminal killings are now considered justifiable?

      It could be as simple as arithmetic.

      1. R C Dean   13 years ago

        I might phrase it as "justifiable killings were previously considered criminal", but yeah.

        1. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

          potato:potato

      2. GILMORE   13 years ago

        Quetzalcoatl|3.28.12 @ 9:26AM|#
        Might part of the issue be that previously criminal killings are now considered justifiable?

        It could be as simple as arithmetic.

        Maybe you mean as simple as semantics.

        redefining statistics to claim 'significant' change has to be the most common method of number funging, and I've seen them all.

        unsurprisingly, its most popular amongst politicians, police, & the military, although academics are by no means guiltless. Actually, everyone does it really. Some more disingenuously than others. Some people are just morons.

  3. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

    UK: Why should fat people take precedence over the elderly in the NHS?
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/n.....n-the-nhs/

    f rationing is acceptable, though, scapegoating is not. And too much evidence points to the elderly being the scapegoats in the battle to save the NHS. As the Telegraph reports today, elderly patients are being denied the best cancer care. The figures are alarming: lack of treatment is contributing to 14,000 deaths a year among the over-75s. Men and women are dying prematurely each year because their diseases are diagnosed later and less likely to be operated on.

    welcome to our future! or present... *mumble mumble*

    1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      Paul Kruman says those horror stories are not true. That every industrialized country in the world has better health care than we do. I guess that is true, if you don't count how they treat the old and the sick.

      1. o3   13 years ago

        so the US leads in life expectancy?

        1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

          There is more to life expediency than health care. The US has a high murder rate, that has nothing to do with health care. The US also has millions of people who are members of minority groups that have a predisposition to things like diabetes and sickle cell. Since the populations are not the same, you can't judge the health care system by life expectancy.

          Well you can, but you would be an deceitful idiot for doing so. Try harder.

          1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

            you would be an deceitful idiot for doing so

            I would be shocked if a lefty ever presented an argument that wasn't intellectually dishonest.

            1. Badger   13 years ago

              They can't help it since they are all retarded.

          2. o3   13 years ago

            simple questions for simple minds
            (good band name tho)
            >oh yea - answer is no

          3. #   13 years ago

            Death via car accident is also much higher here due to us driving more.

            1. Raston Bot   13 years ago

              due to us driving more awesomer!

              FTFY

        2. CoyoteBlue   13 years ago

          No, in pork and pork-related products.
          Which would you choose?
          Americans overwelmingly choose BACON.

          1. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

            did someone say bacon?

            1. JW   13 years ago

              IT'S BACON!

        3. Double D   13 years ago

          Life expectancy is not solely a function of medical care. Accidents, murder, and lifestyle choices affect the number as well. So, the U.S. life expectancy does not necessarily mean that "X" country's health care system is better.

          1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

            Accidents, murder, and lifestyle choices affect the number as well.

            Which only proves that government does not have a sufficient role in peoples' lives, or else it would be preventing accidents and murders, while controlling lifestyle choices.

            More government can fix* anything.

            *by "fix" I mean "ruin"

            1. o3   13 years ago

              but guns doesnt kill pepple peeple kill peeple moar wignut lie from the glen bick croud

              1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

                Wow. You are amazingly stupid. Can't you ever invent a alias that isn't retarded?

                1. o3   13 years ago

                  u responded to a spoof!
                  bwhahahahahahahahahahaha(breath)hahahahahahahahaha(coffee)

                  1. shrike   13 years ago

                    What, are you fucking five years old? Grow up

          2. Another Isolated Incident   13 years ago

            Wealthy people can afford to eat more life-threatening foods. When was the last time somebody died from rice?

        4. breath o2, not o3   13 years ago

          Demographics makes comparisons nearly impossible.

          1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

            u responded to a spoof!
            bwhahahahahahahahahahaha(breath)hahahahahahahahaha(coffee)

            1. shrike   13 years ago

              What, are you fucking five years old? Grow up

              1. The Commentariat   13 years ago

                Never!

      2. robc   13 years ago

        I will point out the example I always do that proves him wrong.

        If you cut off your hand anywhere in the world, you want to be flown to Jewish Hospital (or University - Kleinert Kutz is based out of Jewish, but they do work at University too) in Louisville to put it back on.

        If these other countries have such great health care, how come the leader in hand surgery is here?

        Since 1960, more than 1,200 physicians from 58 countries have been trained as Hand Fellows in advanced microsurgical techniques in our Institute.

        ^^This^^ is the kind of thing we could lose if we adopt a system similar to the rest of the world.

        1. heller   13 years ago

          It's the Jews, obviously.

        2. Kwanzaa Cake   13 years ago

          Cutting-edge medical care must be sacrificed to the insatiable God of Equality, for it is better to make band-aids available to all than to have miraculous hand re-attachment for some.

        3. Invisible Finger   13 years ago

          Jewish Hospital - The Worldwide Leader in Hand Jobs.

          1. Hank   13 years ago

            It's funny because my dad works there, and he gives terrible hand jobs.

      3. RECTAL STACK   13 years ago

        DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE HOW MARY STACK QUIETLY DISAPPEARED ONLY TO BE REPLACED BY FAR MORE REASONABLE BUT EVERY BIT AS PROLIFIC POSTER "Charlotte Corday"?

        Why won't you play with me?

        1. robc   13 years ago

          In 1793, she was executed under the guillotine for the assassination of Jacobin leader Jean-Paul Marat

    2. R C Dean   13 years ago

      This is what Total State Healthcare gets you: the perpetual war of all against all, as various constituencies fight it out in the negative-sum game of political rationing.

      1. Kwanzaa Cake   13 years ago

        Once the government mandates broccoli consumption and regular exercise (it's only good for you and saves $$$, after all), the war will no longer be necessary, and all of the king's subjects will live happily, and healthily, ever after. If we would only let the enlightened liberals give us this nirvana!

        1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

          Daily exercise in the common yard. It connects the community. Otherwise people would be bowling alone.

          1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

            hey o3
            u mean dead is dead right?1
            >damn euro trash dominating life expectancy w their commie health carez!

        2. breath o2, not o3   13 years ago

          First the government will mandate the purchase of broccoli, subsidizing it as necessary, then, when people don't eat their broccoli, they will create a new agency to force people to eat their broccoli and another agency to crack-down on the black market for resale of subsidized broccoli. Eventually, local garbage collectors will be formed into a national union in order to monitor the little people to make sure they don't simply through their broccoli away. Of course, GHWB set the precedent that says that the POTUS doesn't have to eat broccoli.

          1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

            needs moar "theys"

        3. some guy   13 years ago

          But what about when President Santorum decides that the risks of unmarried sex are driving up costs, and forces single women to, each year, prove they are virgo intacta, or else they'll have to pay a fine?

          1. fish   13 years ago

            ....and forces single women to, each year, prove they are virgo intacta, or else they'll have to pay a fine?

            Good bye deficit!

          2. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

            so we can't even use Mr Buzzy?

            1. Butts Wagner   13 years ago

              green initiatives will take care of that

          3. free2booze   13 years ago

            Chastity belt mandate?

  4. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Sanford cops originally requested an arrest warrant for George Zimmerman, but the State Attorney's office kiboshed it.

    At some point this is going to go away, right? We're going to find another shiny object to grab us?

    1. Four Loko   13 years ago

      Yes.

    2. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

      Quick, someone put Romney in front of a camera!

      1. Mitt Romney   13 years ago

        I'm not shiny. Especially through the pyjamas.

    3. Brett L   13 years ago

      Uhh... Whoever said white girl disappearance is right. We need a pretty, yet wholesome white 19 year old to go missing on her way home from volunteering at the no-kill animal shelter.

    4. JW   13 years ago

      Squirrel! Sexting! Hoodies! OWS! Guns! Obamacare! Smoking! Slut! Peanut allergies! Iran! Newclear Titties! War on Women!

  5. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

    Regulating carbon won't help anything
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/....._blog.html

    Count me as one of the Republicans Carter referenced whose attack on the Environmental Protection Agency regulations will be "swift and certain." The reasons for not regulating carbon have been the same for years, anchored by the uncertain cost-benefit of doing so. Even if you accept the entirety of climate change as pseudo-religion, America's unilateral action will have zero effect on achieving the climate that Democrats want us to have.

    etc etc

    1. o3   13 years ago

      "climate change as pseudo-religion,"
      _
      it ignores 6 iceages and 6 melts

      1. R C Dean   13 years ago

        Since the industrial revolution?

  6. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

    The Trayvon Martin Tragedies
    The recent killing of Trayvon Martin needs more investigation. But where's the outrage over the daily scourge of black-on-black crime?
    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....n_newsreel

    The shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida has sparked national outrage, with civil rights leaders from San Francisco to Baltimore leading protests calling for a new investigation and the arrest of the shooter.

    But what about all the other young black murder victims? Nationally, nearly half of all murder victims are black. And the overwhelming majority of those black people are killed by other black people. Where is the march for them?

    1. Restoras   13 years ago

      There isn't any leverage to be gained by engaging in Grievance Theater on black-on-black crime, so no Jackson, Sharpton, et al.

      If those who profess to represent the black community actually cared about the black community (in the sense of strengthening it, making it viable, productive, and valuable) then this is the first issue they would tackle. But they don't, because if they did it would risk the fame and fortune they gain by being able to engage in Grievance Theater.

      1. Realist   13 years ago

        Don't forget Obama he is as much a race hustler as Sharpton or Jackson.

      2. breath o2, not o3   13 years ago

        Blaming whitey requires no personal change. The liberal message always absolves people of personal responsibility.

        1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

          but but da SPLC says teh NBPP is teh racist!

    2. Ice Nine   13 years ago

      The shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida has sparked national outrage, with civil rights leaders from San Francisco to Baltimore leading protests calling for a new investigation and the arrest of the shooter.
      But what about all the other young black murder victims?

      Wait, you mean the famililes of the five young Negroes shot and killed by their own in Chicago last week weren't invited by the Dems to testify before Congress yesterday also?

      1. Realist   13 years ago

        Aaaahaaaa!

    3. sarcasmic   13 years ago

      the overwhelming majority of those black people are killed by other black people

      That perpetuates the stereotype that young blacks are violent thugs, and that's racist.

      1. Neu Mejican   13 years ago

        sarcasmic|3.28.12 @ 9:29AM|#

        the overwhelming majority of those black people are killed by other black people

        That perpetuates the stereotype that young blacks are violent thugs, and that's racist.

        The thing is...the overwhelming majority of people killed are killed by someone they know. And in our country, many neighborhoods/areas have social networks that are still largely race-based/ethnicity-based. So, the chances that someone will be killed by someone who identifies as the same race they do is much higher than the chances that they will be killed by someone who identifies with a different race.

        What could be seen as racists is an attempt to use this largely pedestrian fact as a way to shift the narrative.

        1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

          That is a good point except for one problem. White people are much more likely to be killed by a black person than black people are likely to be killed by a white person.

          If what you were saying were the full story, this wouldn't be the case.

          1. Neu Mejican   13 years ago

            White people are much more likely to be killed by a black person than black people are likely to be killed by a white person.

            Who said it was the full story?

            It is true like 90% of black murder victims are killed by black murderers. Slightly lower for white-on-white murder(like 85%, iic).

            But again, the attempt to control the narrative around this particular incident is interesting. Those who are trying to point out that "young black male = suspicious" is a problem we need to address in our society are not ignoring the black-on-black crime problem. Using the black-on-black crime canard as a counter to that perpetuates the very problem. Even if ALL murders in the US were committed by young black males, most young black males would not be dangerous murderers.

          2. Neu Mejican   13 years ago

            Additionally, the demographics are still in play in explaining the fact you assert. Whites are much less embedded in "the black community" generally than blacks are embedded in the white community.

            The demographics are clear your murderer is much more likely (3 to 1 ish) to be someone you know than a suspicious stranger of any race.

            1. Joe M   13 years ago

              Right, because most murderers have a coherent motive, not just random bloodlust.

              1. Neu Mejican   13 years ago

                Indeed. And one of the reasons that this case is getting attention is that it breaks that mold. This was a stranger killing a kid who had every right to be where he was. Fear of the stranger/other was what motivated the interaction between the two. Whoever initiated the violence, it seems clear from the few facts that are known, that it was this fear of a "stranger" that drove the actions of both parties.

        2. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          Most black on black murder is gang related.

    4. Hon   13 years ago

      And the overwhelming majority of those black people are killed by other black people. Where is the march for them?

      In Bodymore, Murderland, there have been many "stop the violence" gatherings.

      1. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

        We won't start seeing results until the government declares a War on Violence.

        1. Kwanzaa Cake   13 years ago

          Indeed. The government Wars on Drugs and Poverty have exceeded everyone's wildest expectations, so a War on Violenece will surely bring the same quick victory.

          1. Ice Nine   13 years ago

            Only if they use swat teams.

        2. Nelson Fuller   13 years ago

          This violence is unacceptable!

      2. breath o2, not o3   13 years ago

        needs moar gun buybacks

  7. Abdul   13 years ago

    All news outlets reporting that Trayvon Martin's condition is stable.

    1. Suki   13 years ago

      I didn't know that part of Florida was horse country.

    2. Brett L   13 years ago

      Thermodynamic equilibrium is over-rated.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    With 60% of those polled wanting Gingrich out, and 61% in favor of Paul departing...

    I wonder how much overlap there was in these two groups.

    1. robc   13 years ago

      Im assuming Paul's number was near 61% in December.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

        You're saying Gingrich's cache is slipping while Paul's is staying steady and that's the difference? I could buy that.

    2. Realist   13 years ago

      Seventy-eight percent "think" Zimmerman should be arrested.

      1. Mr Whipple   13 years ago

        Yes, he should. Let a jury decide his guilt or innocence. It'll be OJ and Rodney all rolled up into one.

  9. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

    already reported on by Reason, but hey:

    Mich. militia members cleared of charges that accused them of plotting war against government
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

    But there never was an attack. Defense lawyers said highly offensive remarks about police and the government were wrongly turned into a high-profile criminal case that drew public praise from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, who in 2010 called Hutaree a "dangerous organization."

    (snip)

    "His diatribes evince nothing more than his own hatred for ? perhaps even desire to fight or kill ? law enforcement; this is not the same as seditious conspiracy."

    1. Ice Nine   13 years ago

      Well good, I say. These non-Muslim right-wingers are much more useful to the non-Muslim right-wing "terrorist" construct if they are out in circulation rather than languishing in prison, if you think about it. Dude.

  10. MountianTop Removal NoMoar!-o3   13 years ago

    The discovery of abundant supplies of cheap natural gas means that many of those plants won't get built anyway - making the Obama administration's plan, while painful for the coal industry, much less relevant.

    Power developers have scrapped plans for more than 100 coal-fired electricity plants over the past decade due to difficulty obtaining construction and pollution permits or because they were simply too expensive.

    Instead, they are turning to natural gas, which can be built more quickly and are typically more efficient, and are far cheaper.

    "At best, a coal-fired power plant is about 2-1/2 times as expensive as gas," Blossman said.
    http://www.reuters.com/article.....8120120328

    1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      So at best the miracle of fracking is going to save Obama and the country from himself.

      Tries moar harder.

      1. o3   13 years ago

        oooh - and it'll save teh mountians too!
        >isnt it happyest now?!

    2. Montani Semper Liberi   13 years ago

      Actually, I can tell you from right here in the middle of the Marcellus that the drilling of new wells has started to slow down because the price of natural gas is too low that extraction is not worth the cost. So expect the price of natural gas to rise in the future.

      1. o3   13 years ago

        drill n cap
        how do it work?

        1. R C Dean   13 years ago

          Not for long. You only drill and cap wells that you started before the price drops. Once the price drops to the point where you are capping, you aren't drilling new wells.

          supply n demand
          how do it work?

          1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

            Some day we will get a real progressive Congress and they will repeal that damned law.

            1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

              gorilla in da room alert!
              >free-market conspires to artifically raise prices!

              oh noes, cant happen

      2. Zeb   13 years ago

        Well, they'll probably be building more gas power plants now.

        1. R C Dean   13 years ago

          And, of course, the EPA will be releasing its rules on carbon emission by natural gas plants soon, too.

          1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

            sorry - NatGas plants exceed teh new kenyan regs

      3. Brett L   13 years ago

        When inventories are at capacity, why go get more? Although I eagerly await the media screaming in mid-summer when supply chain hiccups in getting wells back online make prices jump the same way they're crashing now.

    3. Spoonman.   13 years ago

      It's like Obama decided he didn't want to win Pennsylvania or something.

      The closing of the Philadelphia refineries isn't going to help him either, not that there's anything he can do about that, of course.

      1. Ann Synd   13 years ago

        MOAR SUPPORT TO THE PIPEFITTERS UNION!!!

    4. Enough About Palin   13 years ago

      Gas is also better because it is piped right into the power plant. A few years back, BNSF had some broken train track issues and plants were having difficulty keeping their coal supplies at a safe level. Some power companies had to implement mitigation strategies because if they ran out of coal, they'd get fined for non-reliability.

  11. Suki   13 years ago

    California Democratic treasurer busted for stealing $7 million.
    No harm, no foul.

    1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      It is not like she is the SEIU and stole real money.

    2. Tolly   13 years ago

      Who would entrust that gigantic mess of a slob with ANY money?

      It's completely embarrassing and amusing. Also the money quote from one of the aggrieved pols:
      "To just think that this lady just came by and took that hard-earned money that took me years to raise, it's just essentially criminal,"

      Congratulations! You just described all levels of your profession you moron. Or where did you think all your tax money magically comes from?

  12. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

    Poll: Obama receives low marks on efforts to reduce gas prices
    http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wi.....gas-prices

    Despite efforts to tout his administration's energy policies, a new poll finds voters still overwhelmingly disapprove of President Obama's handling of high gas prices.

    Sixty-eight percent of those surveyed in a new Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday disapproved of Obama's efforts on high prices at the pump. Twenty-four percent approved of how the administration is handling the price spikes.

    1. o3   13 years ago

      bomb bomb bomb
      bomb bomb iran...

    2. Mike M.   13 years ago

      Gas just went up another nickel in my area yesterday. Are we up to a national average of $4 yet?

      1. Restoras   13 years ago

        I'm paying $4.40

        1. Brett L   13 years ago

          I hope that's Hawaii.

        2. SFC B   13 years ago

          4.10 here in Western Wisconsin.

      2. R C Dean   13 years ago

        For regular, we're up to $3.91.

        http://fuelgaugereport.aaa.com...../index.asp

        1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

          I always thought you Texans pumped and refined everything in your backyards. Don't destroy my illusions.

          1. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

            Depends on what you mean by pump and refine. Remember, there are only two types from Texas - steers and queers

            1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

              What an odd thread this has become.

          2. rac3rx   13 years ago

            I lived most of my life directly across the freeway from the largest Shell refinery in the world. There was a Shell gas station right outside the entrance to that plant, and they consistently were more expensive than most of the other stations in the area.

            I paid $3.73/gal for my last tank. I'm still in the Houston area, just not near Shell anymore.

      3. Private Idaho   13 years ago

        $3.73, bitches.

      4. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

        $3.91 at my last fillup.

        Anyone want to buy a 4200lb V8 RWD car? Hello? Anyone?

        seriously, I can't complain too much - I get 16-17 city if I stay off the go-juice. 22-25 highway depending on what I speed I cruise at.

        Right now, it's just the cost of having plenty of interior space for my big frame.

        1. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

          Those are the sort of numbers my 10-year-old Buick gets.
          I've stopped even looking at the gas prices.

        2. teh rael o3   13 years ago

          it fitz in smaller cars if it loses weight
          > v mpg = ^kia

          1. Brian D   13 years ago

            Another argument for Obamacare: fat Americans losing weight will increase gas mileage!

          2. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

            er, it's more of a frame issue. I'm 6'2" and most cars don't have good legroom for me.

            1. SFC B   13 years ago

              6'5 here, and I feel your pain.

        3. R C Dean   13 years ago

          Anyone want to buy a 4200lb V8 RWD car?

          I'd be a dead man if I tried to get rid of our 4000 lb V8 RWD car.

          1. protefeed   13 years ago

            I'm happy with my 3600 lb V6 FWD Avalon, thanks.

        4. Brett L   13 years ago

          Fuck, at least you get a V-8 out of the deal. I've got a Mazda pickup with a V-6 that seems to get 18 mpg whether I'm driving on the highway or towing a boat in stop-and-go traffic.

          1. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

            it's not much of a V8 - the 4.6L SOHC gives you the performance of a 4-cyl Camry with the mileage of a musclecar!

            I certainly miss my 5.7L LT1 or the 355 I built in my garage (ZZ4 roller-cam, Vortec heads).

            1. R C Dean   13 years ago

              That's terrible. Mrs. Dean gets better mileage than that with a 500 hp 6.2 liter plant.

              1. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

                it was my wife's old car, who got the Honda Element. I sorta "inherited" the Marquis, and (foolishly) kept it since the miles were lower than my previous cars.

  13. Matrix   13 years ago

    Anyone else seeing ads on Reason to donate to Elizabeth Warren?

    1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

      Check.

    2. Trayvon   13 years ago

      All I see is white.

      1. The desert fox   13 years ago

        I just came to the painful realization that I am racist. All my favorite Nazis are white.

    3. Restoras   13 years ago

      I'm getting swapalease.com

    4. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

      nope

      1) Run Firefox
      2) Run Adblocker
      3) Run Scriptblocker... only allow the sites you want to see

      Viola, a cleaner and faster running Reason.

      1. Trayvon   13 years ago

        ^ What he say!

      2. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

        You're like those people who brag about not having a television.

        1. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

          well, I don't have cable (or satellite) - does that count?

        2. Trayvon   13 years ago

          Do you TiVo commercials, CN?

          1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

            I don't have a television.

            1. Trayvon   13 years ago

              [rimshot]

      3. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

        Heck, even Chrome can use AdBlock+ now.

      4. R C Dean   13 years ago

        Well, yeah, but there's always a price to pay.

        No Snorg Tees girls. No Jennifer Love Hewitt.

        1. BILLY MAYS   13 years ago

          HI I'M BILLY MAYS!!

    5. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

      Every click drains the Warren campaign of ~ $.50

      1. Chupacabra   13 years ago

        CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK

        1. The Commentariat   13 years ago

          $3.50 worth of efficacy. New libertarian record!

          1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

            I broke my mouse.

  14. Bee Tagger   13 years ago

    Sanford cops originally requested an arrest warrant for George Zimmerman, but the State Attorney's office kiboshed it.

    I feel bad for whoever lives at the residence that is mistakenly assumed to be the State Attorney's home address once Spike Lee finds out about this development.

    1. Bee Tagger   13 years ago

      Apparently Spike's indefensible mistake is hitting bigger news sites this morning:

      http://nation.foxnews.com/spik.....their-home

      1. robc   13 years ago

        I wonder how big the check Spike will be writing will be?

        1.   13 years ago

          Tweet Mother of God!

        2. Ice Nine   13 years ago

          Before or after the drive-by fusillade tomorrow night?

        3. Lawn Jockey   13 years ago

          "It Be Substantial!"

          A Spike Lee joint!

      2. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

        Spike's mistaken targets were crackers, so at least it wasn't a total loss for him.

      3. Loki   13 years ago

        Black power all day. No justice, no peace" and an obscenity

        Stay classy...

  15. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Romney is closer to tying Romney in Pennsylvania, where the president leads Romney by a 45-42 percent. That's inside the poll's error margin.

    Apparently that Miami Herald writer doesn't see much difference between Romney and Obama.

    1. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

      I miss Dave Barry.
      Or is that a different paper?

      1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

        I miss Dave Barry
        That'd be a good name for a rock band.

        1. spank my wagon   13 years ago

          I miss Dave's Berries

          Good name for a porno.

  16. Moar SPLC Lies Lies Lies-o3   13 years ago

    In short, the New Black Panther Party is a hate group, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti-Defamation League, and other organizations that track fringe ideological movements.

    "The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and law enforcement officers," says a Southern Poverty Law Center report on the group.
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2.....o-are-they

    1. Zeb   13 years ago

      If you call enough people "hate groups" you are bound to be right sometimes.

      1. Jess Asken   13 years ago

        Are there any groups with "Hate" actually in their name?

        1. mr simple   13 years ago

          Hate.

      2. o3   13 years ago

        no recording to the wingguts here the SLCP only hate the jesus - -moar lies

        1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

          ^poar lil spoofer

        2. Shut Up   13 years ago

          Rectal!

    2. hunger lames   13 years ago

      Yeah, well the Anti-Defamation League claimed the Christian Coalition was an neo-Nazi group, not exactly credible.

    3. Loki   13 years ago

      Blind squirrel, acorn, etc.

  17. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

    It's either Zimmerman or Obamacare - all...the...time...

    How Obamacare Derailed the Economic Recovery
    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/.....aspx#page1

    Assuming that the $800 billion Recovery and Reinvestment Act, aka the stimulus, would work the magic promised by his economics team, Mr. Obama set off on his quest to guarantee healthcare for every American. The resulting food fight over the legislation ? the ugly parceling out of favors in return for votes and lies told to justify passage -- permanently damaged President Obama's reputation, divided a country desperate to heal, and distracted the White House from further efforts to build employment. It was a terrible decision, and the country continues to pay for it.

  18. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

    http://www.slate.com/articles/.....case_.html

    Liberal news magazine just wants the Courts to stop telling Congress and the President what to do.

    Yeah, it was a bad day for the home team yesterday at the Court.

    1. Brian D   13 years ago

      What (the Supreme Court) should say instead is this: "By requiring that Americans purchase health insurance, two coequal branches of government?Congress and the president?have determined that the Constitution permits such a requirement. Because that determination is reasonable, we need not reach an independent judgment on the question. Our inquiry is therefore at an end." That is, so long as reasonable people can believe that an act of Congress is constitutional, the Supreme Court should generally let the legislation stand.

      Holy shit, this guy's a law professor?

      1. robc   13 years ago

        Since every law passes congress and the president (excepting veto overrides), then this applies to all laws (excepting veto overrides).

        That really limits what laws the Supremes can review.

      2. Brian D   13 years ago

        What's the function of the Supreme Court then? Should Congress go running to the SC when the president vetoes a bill? Should the President petition the Court to agree that some piece of legislation he favors be drafted by Congress?

        1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          The function of the Supreme Court is to defend legislation against those with the temerity to ask for Constitutional justification.

      3. Spoonman.   13 years ago

        He just wants to get rid of judicial review, no big deal.

        1. Kwanzaa Cake   13 years ago

          No he doesn't. Let a Republican Congress and administration pass a federal ban on abortion and this "reasonableness" inquiry he has invented will be discarded in a heartbeat.

          1. Red Rocks Rockin   13 years ago

            1000X this^. And neither Greene nor the SWPL goons commenting on the piece want to admit it.

      4. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

        The court is great! (when they're on our side, striking down evil Rethuglican laws). They suck if they strike down ours.

      5. Ray   13 years ago

        That article is un-fucking-beleivable.

      6. R C Dean   13 years ago

        Because that determination is reasonable,

        Way to assume the conclusion.

        Co-equal doesn't mean they each get one vote on whether its Constitutional or not. Otherwise, Congress wouldn't be able to override vetoes.

        Co-equal means they each have equal authority, and don't need to defer to any of the others.

      7. Night Elf Mohawk   13 years ago

        Because that determination is reasonable...

        Wait, what?

      8. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

        How this is supposed to work, see, is that if a law doesn't work for even one branch, it has the power to try to kill or modify it. Judicial review, vetoes, votes, overrides, impeachment, amendments, etc.--we have all of these checks and balances to prevent any branch or faction from running amok.

        I'm pretty sure I got that concept after watching it presented in some civics cartoon when I was 7.

        1. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

          Aah, that's what a 7 year old would think. Right-minded adults with a gig at Slate know better

        2. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

          Here is how it works. When it is a law this guy likes, the court needs to shut up and leave it alone. When it is one he doesn't, it is unreasonable.

          It really is that crude.

          1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

            It's so, so stupid. All it takes is for his enemy--the Republicans--to decide to make use of that unlimited, unchecked power for ends he doesn't approve of. The fewer checks, the more radical the actions of an opposition party in power may be.

      9. MJGreen   13 years ago

        In other words, ignore Marbury v Madison?

        1. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

          well, that was, what, 1803? And Marshall and the other poor fools didn't understand how important it was that their betters be given free rein to run our lives for us, even of the Constitution doesn't let them. And they were white and male. And now they're dead. So fuck 'em

      10. Gray Ghost   13 years ago

        Holy shit, this guy's a law professor?

        At Columbia, too. Unbelievable.

        1. rac3rx   13 years ago

          Not that unbelievable...on either count.

      11. Loki   13 years ago

        They should rename this A.M. Facepalms instead. Much more descriptive of what you're actually getting.

      12. Proprietist   13 years ago

        Read between the lines:

        "What (the Supreme Court) should say instead is this: "By requiring that Americans purchase health insurance, two coequal branches of government?Congress and the president?have determined that the Constitution permits such a requirement. Because that determination is reasonable whenever my preferred party is in power, we need not reach an independent judgment on the question. Our inquiry is therefore at an end." That is, so long as reasonable people can believe that an act of a Democratic Congress is constitutional, the Supreme Court should generally let the legislation stand.

    2. Rod Turgid   13 years ago

      The bigger question is not whether passage of the bill reflects a constitutional judgment?after all, the president and members of Congress take an oath to support the Constitution?but whether judges owe any deference to that judgment.

      Emphasis added. I suppose it's "to support the Constitution as each understands it in their own way".

      1. Rod Flaccid   13 years ago

        You know what I meant.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    When it comes to "issue important to women," Republicans start to suffer badly. Only 28 percent in Florida say they trust Republicans to do a better job; 58 percent trust Democrats. This large, double-digit advantage in the Democrats' favor repeated itself when voters were polled about "reproductive health issues," birth control and abortion.

    It helps when the Republican candidate for president calls some random school girl a slut while Democrats and their surrogates are nothing but gentlemen to women. Also, Barack Obama is so fucking dreamy.

    1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

      Not to mention Sarah Palin sending that Nazi guy to kill Obama's son in Florida. Think that says it all.

      1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

        Well she had already tried to kill Gabriel Giffords.

        1. o3   13 years ago

          she certainly killed john mccain

          1. Spo3o3f   13 years ago

            Now that was funny!

        2. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

          I can't believe they just let her walk around free, like she's not a killer. I guess it's because of her celebrity status as a former member of the Australian troupe, Mount Me Python.

          1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

            Mount Me Python
            It's only gay if you bring the gay with you -- Pro Libertate

            1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

              I stand by that statement. Are you bringing the gay, Citizen?

              1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                I'm bringing the chicken salad. I hear Warty's bringing the gay.

                1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                  He wears it like a fur coat.

                2. Marshall Gill   13 years ago

                  I'm bringing the chicken salad

                  I am going to take this as a "yes". NTTAWWT

                  1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                    Did you see my secret recipe, Marshall?

                    1. Marshall Gill   13 years ago

                      Did you see my secret recipe, Marshall?

                      THAT'S NOT MAYONNAISE!!!!

            2. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

              Do Westboro Baptists pour red paint on it?

              1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                Not when Warty is wearing it. He's been known to fly into uncontrollable rages for lesser offenses to his person. . .or to his gay coat.

              2. SugarFree   13 years ago

                Yes, but it's not paint. Or red. And it's not really a pouring action.

                1. Warty   13 years ago

                  It's not really a coat, per se. It's more of a...cape, maybe.

                  1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                    It's not really a coat, per se. It's more of a...cape, maybe.

                    It's whatever the wearer needs it to be. Even a nylon track suit if it comes down to that.

                    1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                      Little-known fact: There's only one gay person in the world at any one time--whoever is wearing the Cape of Gayness. It just changes hands with great frequency.

                  2. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

                    A cape is the gayest of all over garments.

                    1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                      It usually is, but it can also be cool. But where that line is, nobody knows.

                    2. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                      It's not gay unless you bring the gay with you -- Christopher Reeve

                  3. JW   13 years ago

                    No capes!

                    1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                      You know I'm retired from hero work.

            3. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

              not a leotard?

              1. Warty   13 years ago

                I can be a leotard, sure. But gay dudes usually want me to be wearing a cape, so I oblige.

            4. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

              just swear to me that you've got the male equivalent of vajazzling underneath whatever you're wearing

              1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                I'm trying to think of nongay capes. Superman, sure. Dracula, absolutely. But those are fictional and quasi-fictional characters.

                1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                  It's not gay unless you bring the gay with you -- Bela Lugosi

                  1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                    And I need to borrow The Cape of Gayness next Tuesday at 12:15 p.m.
                    Don't ask.

              2. SugarFree   13 years ago

                male equivalent of vajazzling

                Warty's junk looks like a Clarie's threw up all over it.

                No matter what I do, he won't stop sending me pictures. 🙁

              3. Warty   13 years ago

                That's stupid. You're stupid.

                1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                  That's the Hat of Stupid.

                  1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                    The Hat of Stupid cannot change shape. It is always a backwards baseball cap.

                    1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                      It has different settings. Upside-down and sideways is an 11.

                    2. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

                      I thought it lived in Fort Worth Texas.

                    3. Warty   13 years ago

                      The highest stupidity setting has various pictures of the Insane Clown Posse on it, as well.

                    4. Warty   13 years ago

                      BEHOLD

                    5. SugarFree   13 years ago

                      I'd like to think that future historians will look back on this epoch as "The Time When No One Had A Friend That Would Take A Picture Of Them."

                    6. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

                      The evidence is overwhelming.

            5. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

              Whatever she grows up to be, please don't let it be anything that affects another human being's safety or finances

              1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                Whatever she grows up to be, please don't let it be anything that affects another human being's safety or finances

                I think we can all see her future: "I need ta check ya asshole."

                1. Warty   13 years ago

                  You need that big TSA salaries to buy your ICP-themed baby coffin, after all.

                2. Taxpayer   13 years ago

                  Get back to work, SugarFree.

            6. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

              Phew, so safety will be unaffected. Nothing hurt except dignity.

              I was running late for a flight on Friday, sailed through screening, and then got pulled over for a so-called random check. My guess: middle-class females won't object. Well I did. They tried to tell me this was for my own safety and i laughed in their faces. The airline was paging me, otherwise I would have tarried to point out the utter folly of their position

              1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                Not even the Rapiscan, the most accurate name for anything ever?

    2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      It's crazy how thoroughly the Democrats have convinced some women that their vote should be based entirely on abortion.

      1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

        and the rest vote against teh gop war on women.>bye bye suburbs

        1. Red Rocks Rockin   13 years ago

          Like it's a shock that more women would want a more intrusive nanny state. It's been that way since before Prohibition.

    3. John Thacker   13 years ago

      OTOH, polls also consistently reveal that women have negative views about libertarianism. What do we blame that on.

      1. SRH   13 years ago

        There are way too many women who don't use their brains, that's why. As one who does, again, I despair.

        1. Citizen H&R Commenter   13 years ago

          That's hot.

      2. R C Dean   13 years ago

        What do we blame that on.

        Estrogen.

        1. Progesterone   13 years ago

          What am I, chopped liver?

      3. Realist   13 years ago

        Amendment XIX.

      4. 1776   13 years ago

        History and science shows the founding fathers were right again.

    4. Oh, no. Not this again.   13 years ago

      Leading up to every election for the past forty years, the dinosaur media has declared that there is a gender gap that the Republicans must close in order to win. The prescription is always the same: Republicans must adopt Democrat policies wrt "women's issues" like abortion. Yet, somehow, the same dinosaur media never point out the gender gap that Democrats have wrt male voters. Amazingly, the Republicans still win elections, at least nationally and in those parts of the country where the Republicans haven't adopted Democrat policies.

      Concern trolls are concerned.

      1. robc   13 years ago

        Yeah, I like to point out that the gender gap is always in two directions. And, unlike the "black gap", men and women are roughly the same size demographic, for so it really is a two way problem.

  20. Zoe Ng   13 years ago

    Well they, blew up the chicken man in Roswell last night,
    Well the, blew up his house too.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012.....-to-avoid/

    1. Another Isolated Incident   13 years ago

      No dogs or chickens were shot.

      Nothing else happened.

    2. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

      +10

    3. CoyoteBlue   13 years ago

      Now I can't get that song out of my head.

    4. Brett L   13 years ago

      I've been hearing that in my head since I read the headline last night.

    5. Proprietist   13 years ago

      When I first saw that headline, my first thought was how sad I was for his widow, the Chicken Lady.

  21. SugarFree   13 years ago

    Woman live-blogs her suicide on Facebook

    Lin's last Facebook entries show her chatting with nine friends, alerting them to her gradual asphyxiation. One picture uploaded from her mobile phone depicts a charcoal barbecue burning next to two stuffed animals. Another shows the room filled with fumes.

    One friend identified as Chung Hsin, told Lin, "Be calm, open the window, put out the charcoal fire, please, I beg you."

    Lin replied: "The fumes are suffocating. They fill my eyes with tears. Don't write me anymore."
    ...
    Lin's last words, in Chinese, were: "Too late. My room is filled with fumes. I just posted another picture. Even while I'm dying, I still want FB (Facebook). Must be FB poison. Haha."

    1. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

      don't give the trolls any ideas

    2. Ex nihilo   13 years ago

      And the dumbasses she calls friends didn't call 911. I know some people are in such pain that death seems to be the only relieve, but fuck. With friends like these.

      1. Ex nihilo   13 years ago

        relieve s/b relief

      2. Brett L   13 years ago

        Well it is Taiwan, so I'm not sure dialing 911 there does any good...

        1. SugarFree   13 years ago

          110 for police, 119 for fire or medical emergency, 112 for both from any GSM handset.

          1. lech   13 years ago

            What number for a happy ending?

    3. Abdul   13 years ago

      Now that's the worst chat room ever.

      1. +   13 years ago

        Win!

  22. Barack Obama   13 years ago

    "If I had a son, he'd ransack stores.

    http://www.local10.com/news/Po.....index.html

    1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      Trayyvon died. I need a new TV.

      1. Trayvon's momma   13 years ago

        Hey, u said Trayvon. Dat be $5.

    2. Chaka Kahn   13 years ago

      This could be the start of something big.

      1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

        I feel for you. Feel for you.

  23. Another Isolated Incident   13 years ago

    No dogs or chickens were shot.

    Nothing else happened.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Durkee, who heads Durkee & Associates in Burbank, was arrested in September and charged with suspicion of mail fraud after millions of dollars disappeared from the campaign accounts of U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, other Democratic members of Congress and several Democratic state lawmakers.

    To make up for the cash shortfall, Feinstein had to send extra MILCON dollars to her defense contractor husband's firm.

  25. Mary, Quite Contrary   13 years ago

    Where's John?

    1. teh rael o3   13 years ago

      refilling his prozac to vote for mittens

    2. Punchline   13 years ago

      Where's John?

      Working!

  26. Joe M   13 years ago

    My new fantasy scenario: Gingrich drops out and endorses Paul.

    1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      Well the Titties is nuts. So anything is possible. But I can't see it.

      1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

        If he'd legally changed his name, as he was advised to do so, the primaries would already be over.

    2. SugarFree   13 years ago

      Gingrich drops out and endorses Paul.

      A fantastic ploy to get even less people to vote for Paul.

  27. Trayvon   13 years ago

    This is like the worst chat room ever.

    1. Yeah   13 years ago

      It's downright civil. Where's John? MNG? SugarFree? This is unacceptable!

      1. Realist   13 years ago

        MNG is taking an Obama load.

        1. lech   13 years ago

          Which end?

          1. Wartie   13 years ago

            Eewwww.

  28. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    The Seminole County State Attorney's Office was consulted the night of Martin's killing, but no prosecutor ever visited the scene. As the controversy intensified, Gov. Rick Scott replaced Seminole State Attorney Norm Wolfinger with Corey, the state attorney for Duval, Nassau and Clay counties, based in Jacksonville.

    Norm Wolfinger, it should be noted, is a fellow white, like George Zimmerman. We won't know the ethnicity of Governor Rick Scott or replacement prosecutor Angela Corey until we see if Zimmerman gets charged or not.

    1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      You don't have to visit a scene to evaluate a case. They really are desperate to find something anything that will fit the narrative.

      1. shorter charlotte   13 years ago

        damn that jeb bush!

    2. Kreel Sarloo   13 years ago

      The fact that the State Attorney declined to OK an arrest might simply mean that they weren't prepared to take the case before a judge for an arraignment.

      They might have felt that without a better case the judge would throw the case out right then.

  29. MNG   13 years ago

    In Israel, a battle to save the ancient Canaan dog
    the Israeli government is threatening to close the operation that has been helping preserve the breed...

    In an eviction notice sent late last year, the Israel Land Authority argues that Sha'ar Hagai Kennels is illegally occupying government land. Sha'ar Hagai's Shiboleth says she moved more than 40 years ago to what was then an abandoned water station and paid rent to the water company only to find out that it didn't own the land. She says she asked the land authority about regularizing her situation and heard nothing ? until she received the eviction notice. Moving, she says, would be prohibitively expensive, and few neighborhoods would welcome noisy kennels.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

    1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      Those dogs are amazing. They actually belonged to the ancient Hebrews. And when the Romans sacked Jerusalem, they went feral in the desert only to be re domesticated when the Jews started coming back to Israel in the 1920s. They literally waited 2000 years for their masters to return.

    2. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

      You know who else talked a lot about Jewish dogs?

      1. o3   13 years ago

        babe ruth?

      2. Famous Dave   13 years ago

        Nathan?

      3. Enough About Palin   13 years ago

        Hebrew Frank?

      4. lech   13 years ago

        A desperate Jewish bachelor?

      5. shrike   13 years ago

        Hitler

    3. Old Mexican   13 years ago

      Re: MNG,

      In Israel, a battle to save the ancient Canaan dog

      If Canaan dog became the main ingredient of a new and exciting delicacy, I'll bet the house and kids(*) the Canaan dog is saved for generations to come.

      I fear that, alas, people's sense of yuckiness and their tendency to anthropomorphize cute furry animals will ultimately doom the Canaan dog.

      (*) I don't own the house and the kids are bratty, so I can afford such bet.

  30. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

    Would you rather live in a kennel in Israel or Palestine?

    1. MNG   13 years ago

      Long, butthurt memories, eh CN?

      1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

        Jesus, MNG. I thought you'd think it was funny. You're a touchy one.

        1. SugarFree   13 years ago

          Memory is just a right-wing meme, CN.

        2. Quetzalcoatl   13 years ago

          MNG's just on edge because of all the doxxing going on around here.

          It's a hostile chat environment.

          1. Libertymike   13 years ago

            Hey, am I going to get all apoplectic when CN posts some lincoln or sherman snark?

            No, I just remind him that every time he listens to or (horrors) actually sings the star spangled banner he should be thinking about the grandson of Francis Scott Key - who was incarcerated by the feds for writing anti-war editorials. His quarters were not far from where his grandfather conjured up his flag waving lyrics.

            1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

              Needz mor Sherman

        3. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

          I don't think it's funny. I'd take an Israeli latrine over that degenerate shithole any day of the fucking week.

          1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

            Needz mor AIPAC.

            1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

              1) I'm a rabid Jeffersonian republican and an anti-interventionist.

              2) You're not that fucking retard spoofing the real Citizen Nothing, are you? If you are, eat shit and fuck off. If you're not, cool, just covering all bases.

              1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                If you're not, cool, just covering all bases.
                No harm, no foul.

  31. MNG   13 years ago

    In 2010, according to a study published this month by University of California economist Emmanuel Saez, 93 percent of income growth went to the wealthiest 1 percent of American households, while everyone else divvied up the 7 percent that was left over.

    It was not ever thus. In the recovery that followed the downturn of the early 1990s, the wealthiest 1 percent captured 45 percent of the nation's income growth. In the recovery that followed the dot-com bust 10 years ago, Saez noted, 65 percent of the income growth went to the top 1 percent. This time around, it's reached 93 percent ? a level so high it shakes the foundations of the entire American project.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

    1. Spoonman.   13 years ago

      Policies that make it so you have to be very rich to make money from investments make it difficult for the middle class to accumulate wealth.

    2. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      And the housing and higher ed bubble haven't helped either.

      1. MNG   13 years ago

        I think the people most hurt by the economic woes are those without college degrees, right? So I'm not sure how it is the higher ed bubble...

        1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

          But since the debt burden of getting a education is so much higher, a lot of people who would have in past decades gone from say the middle to the upper or the lower to the middle classes, didn't and don't because of student loan burdens and housing costs. That extra money the degree earns you doesn't do you as much or any good when all or part of it goes to pay off your loans.

          1. Old Mexican   13 years ago

            Charlotte Corday,

            Any way you or MNG want to slice it, it is clear as day that the reason for the wealth disparity is credit expansion. The FED's policy of money and credit expansion feeds those issues you allude to: Growing studen debt, credit card debt, the real estate asset bust, and the net loss of value of savings.

            The exact SAME monetary phenomenon was or is behind the widening gap between poor and rich people in Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, etc. AndI don't blame the rich - they're not stupid, they convert their liquid assets to something else that holds value better. the blame rests entirely on the Central Banks and government largess. America is turning itself into a 3rd World Country very fast, all due to the arrogance of the politicians and Ben Bernanke's.

            1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

              Very true. And the credit expansion has been the driver behind the higher ed and housing bubbles. We are both right.

    3. Old Mexican   13 years ago

      Re: MNG,

      93 percent of income growth went to the wealthiest 1 percent of American households[...]

      Capitalism can create prosperity, but left unfettered it doesn't create broadly shared prosperity ? and never will.

      And then the author proceeds to miss the point entirely. There IS a transfer of wealth, but it is not due to what he believes is the cause; it is instead the direct result of credit expansion. And it is not so much that the rich are getting richer, because they're not by that much if you adjust for inflation - it is that the middle class and the poor are getting poorer as their savings and income get devalued.

      1. MNG   13 years ago

        OM-I thought the stats were neat, I certainly don't put much stock in Meyerson's conclusions drawn from any stats as a general matter...

      2. Mr Whipple   13 years ago

        Yes, it's kind of disingenuous to refer to the current system as "unfettered" when the Fed is pumping shitloads of cheap, easy money into the system.

        Whenever someone uses the word "unfettered" when referring to the economy, what he is really saying is, I don't know shit about economics.

        What's that? Another round of QE, Mr Bernanke?

    4. Kwanzaa Cake   13 years ago

      So he's comparing income growth in 2010 to the undefined "recoveries" in the early 1990s and 2000s. Presumably those "recoveries" stretch beyond a one-year period. Smells like apples and oranges. Not to mention -- how are they defining income. These sorts of stats, in my experience, almost uniformly exclude benefits from income (in part b/c they are not reported on income tax returns). Excluding non-cash benefits makes the comparisons completely worthless and misleading.

      1. MNG   13 years ago

        I think he should define income with two categories: income from salary and wages, ok enough, income from capital gains, TEH AWESOMEST, let's tax this at a lower rate!

        1. Kwanzaa Cake   13 years ago

          Or we could equalize the treatment of both types of income by taxing wages twice, just like we do to dividends.

    5. R C Dean   13 years ago

      What percentage of the drop in income in 2008-2009 was absorbed by the top 1%?

      1. MNG   13 years ago

        RC Dean is like some strange inverse of the old NYT "the poor and minorities hardest hit" joke. If there is an overdog in a fight, he's concerned for it and rooting for it...

        1. R C Dean   13 years ago

          Geez, asking for a little context for a strangely limited data point is now "rooting for the overdog."

          Meaning comes from context, MNG. Here's some context, and meaning:

          Emmanuel Saez updated his valuable series on income trends to include 2009 and 2010 and finds, not surprisingly, that those in the top 1 percent started seeing a strong recovery in 2010 and have recouped some of the ground lost in the downturn.

          http://www.epi.org/blog/top-1-.....nequality/

          1. Libertymike   13 years ago

            "Text without context is pretext"!

          2. R C Dean   13 years ago

            I'm hoping MNG attacks Saez as an unreliable source.

        2. Kwanzaa Cake   13 years ago

          There you go -- this is a "fight" between the 99% and 1%, both of which are static populations.

    6. B.P.   13 years ago

      Yeah, 2010 was quite the recovery.

  32. Old Mexican   13 years ago

    Poll: America [sic] likes Mitt Romney more than Rick Santorum; wants Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich to drop out.

    CNN Poll: Majority in GOP [that is, boys and girls, only those that vote Republican and NOT "America"] say Gingrich and Paul should end bids

    Sheesh, talk about spin!

    1. Charlotte Corday   13 years ago

      The question is so what? What if 90% of everyone thought Paul should end his bid? Does Paul somehow lose his right to continue then?

    2. MNG   13 years ago

      The real bias in the news is they want a horserace. Having to mention Paul all the time (because if they don't his supporters will rightly call them on it) is so annoying to them...

      With a horserace you don't have to talk about, and hence understand, policy and issues. You just talk about "was this a good day for Obama? or was that a gaffe by Romney? or let's go to John King with his analysis of this poll on the white board!"

      1. R C Dean   13 years ago

        So racist. I am disappoint.

        1. Libertymike   13 years ago

          Don't you find John King insufferable?

          Almost as much as nika on Morning Joe?

      2. Pip   13 years ago

        "The real bias in the news is they want a horserace."

        I blame Tim Cavanaugh.

      3. Invisible Finger   13 years ago

        Most horse races have 8 horses.

        What the news wants is a UFC bout.

    3. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

      Nuclear Gangrene should drop out, but Paul's gotta take it to the end.

      1. Badger   13 years ago

        Is that some kind of santorum joke?

    4. Oh, no. Not this again.   13 years ago

      America likes Mitt Romney more than Rick Santorum

      Leading up to every presidential election for the past thirty years, the media has suggested that a Republican candidate must be "likeable" in order to win. Policy positions aren't so important. Coincidentally, the most "likeable" candidate is always the one chosen by the Republican establishment.

      Concern trolls are concerned.

  33. shrike   13 years ago

    Britain Deserves Better

  34. Warty   13 years ago

    Damn you Brendon Smalls

    1. Brett L   13 years ago

      Wow. I've been off the scene for so long I have no clue what that means.

      1. Warty   13 years ago

        I'm giving you a choice: either listen to the song or start eatin' that trash can.

        1. Brett L   13 years ago

          Let's just assume we had the longest fight scene ever and I listened to it. This is like a tribute to the genre.

  35. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

    100% OT: Two new synth songs by moi:
    http://ofghostsandgunpowder.bl.....gs_27.html

    1. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

      I'm playing both of them at the same time. It kinda works

      1. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

        yikes - mental meltdown!

      2. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

        I started with Level Control, and then after a few minutes just hit play on Finger Gyro. They have these occasional accidental syncs, and then they pull out of sync again. And then as Finger Gyro fades to an end, Level Control quietly keeps pulsing.

  36. invisible furry hand   13 years ago

    From Twitter:

    Kiss Me is the first lesbian film to emerge from Sweden in over a decade. We caught up with the film's director: http://t.co/WpPVAMmx #llgff

    A decade between drinks? What has happened to the Swedes?

    1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

      It's only gay if you bring the gay yourself -- Ingmar Bergman

  37. Romulus Augustus   13 years ago

    I guess it is good news that 39% of Republicans want to keep hearing Ron Paul's message, while 69% have decided to stick with the "invasion of the month" candidates.

    1. Romulus Augustus   13 years ago

      Ooops, 61%.

      1. Lord Humungus   13 years ago

        Freudian slip?

  38. ISOLATIONIST!   13 years ago

    Rand Paul Blocks Sanctions on Iran

    1. Old Mexican   13 years ago

      Senator Paul called for a vote to an amendment of the bill to add a measure to ensure nothing in the bill "shall be construed as a declaration of war or an authorization of use of force against Iran or Syria."

    2. Brett L   13 years ago

      Oh shit. I started reading comments. Eject, eject, eject!

  39. complaint   13 years ago

    my girl just bit me and it hurt

    1. ?   13 years ago

      Schmoopy?

    2. Oh, no. Not this again.   13 years ago

      Pull your dentures out of her vagina - problem solved!

      1. Pip   13 years ago

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780622/

  40. Kreel Sarloo   13 years ago

    so the US leads in life expectancy?

    The US actually does very well in life expectancy of people who actually reach old age. I realize that's small comfort for those that don't but the number of people who die in accidents and homicides is higher here. And those people tend to be young.

    The US record on cancer survival rates is also better than many other countries.

    1. Brett L   13 years ago

      Yeah. The statistics say that if you live past 30, you'll outlive the average person pretty much anywhere else.

  41. Joe M   13 years ago

    Re: the Obamacare case in the SCOTUS

    "It certainly didn't go as well as I had hoped it would for the government," said Timothy Jost, a law professor at Washington and Lee University and an authority on healthcare law.

    God, that is music to my ears. I wish my news stories included that phrase.

    After Wednesday's third day of arguments, the justices will meet behind closed doors Friday to cast their votes and begin working on opinions.

    Why is it that they'll cast votes on Friday, but we won't get a ruling until June?

    1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

      Gotta write that shit up, dude, and decide who gets the honor. Or, rather, have the clerks do so. Then they bicker and argue about different language, insult each other, then remove their robes at midnight of the appointed evening and perform the Nude Justice Dance.

      1. Joe M   13 years ago

        Oh yeah! And don't forget the Annointing with Whale Oil part.

        1. Pro Libertate   13 years ago

          That's assumed.

          I see you read The Brethren, too.

      2. Gray Ghost   13 years ago

        I only hope they find an opinion with 5 votes, and not write 3 separate 4-vote concurrences that babble on endlessly and solve nothing.

        It'd be hilarious if they indeed disposed of the issue on some procedural grounds, like standing or ripeness, and refused to decide anything substantive. Regardless, I'm guessing about 200 pages for the main opinion, and probably a good 50 or so for at least one concurring. At least Souter isn't there anymore to bulk out the page count. Talk about your frustrated history professors...

        That Kagan hasn't recused herself is one of the rankest offenses against judicial ethics that I can remember on the SCOTUS. I guess covering for a senile Justice has to right up there too.

        1. R C Dean   13 years ago

          That Kagan hasn't recused herself is one of the rankest offenses against judicial ethics that I can remember on the SCOTUS.

          Same here. If OCare is upheld 5-4, it will be permanently damaged as an institution because of this. Although I suspect Roberts will join that opinion to try to control the damage.

  42. Red Rocks Rockin   13 years ago

    Diane Keaton: Traitor to the Sistahood:

    She now admits that in hindsight it would have been better if she had been in a relationship after all.
    Miss Keaton said in an interview: 'As a parent I provide all I can, but I think in the best possible scenario you need to have a man.'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....ached.html

    Pinched-face feminists hardest hit.

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