Ron Paul: His Opponents Don't Even Know They've Been Beaten


Business Insider with details on the Ron Paul campaign's stealth efforts for total Republican Party dominance, after explaining again all the reasons to doubt the legitimacy of the announced straw poll vote (nonbinding on eventual delegates) in Maine:

The Paul campaign believes it has won the majority of Maine's delegates….

Caucus chaos has also proved to be fertile ground for Paul's quiet takeover of the Republican Party. Since 2008, the campaign and Paul's Campaign for Liberty PAC have made a concerted effort to get Paul sympathists involved in the political process. Now, tumult in state party organizations has allowed these supporters to rise up the ranks.

"We like strong party leadership when it comes from us," Paul campaign chair Jesse Benton told Business Insider. "Our people work very hard to make sure that their voice is heard."

The fruits of this labor are evident in Iowa, where Paul's former state campaign co-chair A.J. Spiker was just elected as the new chairman of the Iowa Republican Party. Spiker replaces Matt Strawn, who stepped down over this year's Iowa caucus dustup. In Nevada, the state chair has also resigned over caucus disaster, and several Ron Paul supporters are well-positioned to step up to fill the void. These new leaders not only expand Paul's influence at the state level, but also help protect Paul and his hard-won delegates from state party machinations as the delegate-selection process moves to district and state conventions, and eventually the Republican National Convention this summer.

"We are always trying to bring people into the party," Benton said. "I think that is a very positive thing for Republicans. Ron is the person who can build the Republican base, bring new blood into the party. That's how you build the party." 

In Maine, the caucus disaster has made the state GOP prime for a Ron Paul takeover. And that means that Paul's hard-won delegates will be protected as the delegate selection process

"We are taking over the party," Wead told BI. "That's the important thing — and that is what we are doing in Maine."

Daily Beast has more on this angle of Paul's ongoing secret victory, focusing not on the GOP per se but his ideological conquest of the young and the wired:

  According to the Election Oracle, Paul has played online with remarkable consistency, staying entirely in positive territory and avoiding the volatile shifts and dips of his opponents. One reason is obvious: The 20- and 30-somethings who ardently support the free-market platform of the aging candidate are heavy web users who gush about him on political blogs, in news comments and on Twitter. But less clear is how for weeks, Paul, despite his controversial and provocative ideas to massively reign in the size of government, has escaped any online controversy or sustained attack.


To determine its favorability ratings, the Election Oracle tracks 40,000 news sites, blogs, message boards, Twitter feeds, and other social-media sources to analyze what millions of people are saying about the candidates—and determines whether the web buzz is positive or negative. That rating is weighted, along with the Real Clear Politics polling average and the latest InTrade market data, to calculate each candidate's chances of winning the Republican nomination. (See methodology here.)

The downside of Paul's web popularity is that it isn't quite a representative sample. The positive web rating comes from his enthusiastic fans, but few others are talking about him….

Meanwhile, a CNN poll has Paul coming on top on the question of whether his policies are perceived as good for the middle class, above all his GOP opponents as well as President Obama. See this CNN clip, in which the graphic amusingly places the number one Paul at the bottom of the list:

My forthcoming book, Ron Paul's Revolution.

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  1. onetime I found some marbles on a kitchen floor but my Dad got mad and made me put them back in the litter box instead.

    1. Do I get to claim ‘first’ when it is a spoof?

      1. There are some rather comments that aren’t spoofs?

        Get some help! Fast!

  2. I think the GOP has an ongoing institutional problem here.

    The permanent party apparatus (committees and sich) is extraordinarily primitive and belongs pretty much to anyone who decides to show up. When new people show up, there is chaos and acrimony.

    In state after state the Paul people are going after the apparatus, in a way that even I (who sympathize with them) concede has to look like usurpation to rank and file Republicans. The problem is that stopping the Paul people requires a series of excruciatingly petty fights at the local level, fights that result in scorched earth all around, and the party can’t really take that kind of pounding without taking serious damage.

    1. Unfortunately, the party apparatus is only half the battle. The conservative opinion-makers are neocon to the core and they’re not going away until they die off (which can’t happen too soon, if God is listening to me).

      1. So buy up the media and put some sensible people on the air, telling the old people who to vote for.

        1. Contrary to popular belief, there’s little correlation between wealth and libertarianism. Probably inverse, if anything, particularly in the new regime where the easiest way to make and maintain a fortune is to be in bed with the government (or be part of it).

        2. I am 100% sure that would work.

      2. There’s one down in Toledo anyway, and Free Talk Live is replacing him.

        Mark Levin Gets Canned From WSPD Radio For Lies About Ron Paul, Hilarity Ensues

        1. Glad to hear it. Levin is a tool.

    2. So Ron Paul isn’t Eddard Stark, he is actually Robert Baratheon, the Usurper?

      1. Fuck year. I award you 100,000 pictures of cats.

      2. Winter is coming, people, and Ron Paul’s the bad mother-fucker bringing it.

        1. Wait…is that why it’s taking Martin so long to reveal what the fuck is actually coming down from the north…because its Ron Paul and his horde (couple dozen) die hard Libertarians armed to the teeth with machine guns and rpgs? Or has he actually just written himself into an MC Escher maze-like corner?

          1. If we’re being serious here, I suspect Martin might have majorly fucked himself into a dead-end. Let’s hope he doesn’t announce ten more books as an extension.

            1. The dude is over 60 and obviously loves bacon more than me and Ron Swanson combined. No way he’s making it past 2016. Looks like we have a Robert Jordan scenario on our hands Res. We are through the looking glass people.

              1. I’ll shove a red-hot barbed cane into my eye socket while in the process of jumping into a pool of hydroflouric acid if Nicholas Sparks is the one to continue his Martin’s work.

                But honestly, I hope Martin finishes in the next few years, partly because I want HIM to be the one to complete the saga, and partly because I don’t want Martin himself to screw it up by overextending it.

                1. I really don’t want to be pushing 50 when the series is over.

                  Do you even see the HBO show going past book 3?

                  1. It’ll probably be a super-duper-ultra-awesome-esque phenomenon for another season or two, but I think you’re right about what happens after that — it’ll probably just fade rapidly beyond that point.

                    1. Besides, Book 3 could take a good 2-4 seasons depending on writers and LOST-esque writing involved. So the show will have a several nudity filled and action (cheap?) -lite seasons.

                    2. Switch of topics, but anyone watching Luck? As an occasional handicapper and general fan of gaming I’m digging it already.

                    3. I’m watching it. Still trying to get into it, and I’ll stick it out for the season. My favorite parts of the show are the shots at Santa Anita Park. I love gambling on horses and looking at those mountains in the background.

                2. Be wary what you wish for. I sometimes wish someone besides Stephen King had written the last 3 books of the Dark Tower series.

                  1. Someone else probably did.

                    Look, a ghost!

                    1. I could see it going past season 3, though there will be some serious cuts in some of the later books. I love the series but things are just starting to really get going with the white walkers and its like five fucking books in.

      3. Let the Others take Romney, Obama, Gingerich and Santorum.

        1. Maybe we can get the Faceless Men…

          wait, too violent.

          1. How about the Witch-King of Angmar?

            *Franchise heresy*

            1. Wow, that’s begging for nerd rage. 😀

            2. I never liked that character. He’s just a big ghost who, until the very last battle, doesn’t do shit except walk around and look scary. They move so goddamn slow (when dismounted) that even though they have swords you could easily outrun them once they decide to stab you.

              1. AHHHH… you forget godzilla, the witch-king served as a sacrifice to radical feminism at Eowyn’s feet (very VERY hairy vagina?) after his adolescent ghost phase.

      4. Robert Baratheon was a big spender, and increased Westeros’s national debt….

        I’d say Ron is more like Eddard – he grasps power reluctantly, sticks to his principles, is a man of honor, etc.

        He could be Stannis, too

        1. Is Santorum Reek?

          1. Reek, Reek, it rhymes with peek. You must remember your name.

        2. Sorry not Reek, I meant the Bolton Bastard.

          1. Dick Cheney is Ramsay Bolton, I’d say

        3. He could be Stannis, too

          Because he doesn’t know about his minions writing the newsletters in the same way that Stannis doesn’t know about Melisandre’s sacrifices and blood magic?

          1. Stannis knows because he’s fucking her ass. Ron Paul didn’t know shit because he was too busy eating bacon, being disillusioned, and delivering babies.

            1. Does Stannis actually know that she killed Renly? He ought to know, but there are some signs that he blinds himself to the truth.

              1. He denies it to Davos I think, but who knows what’s going on in his head. Stannis is actually one of the more complex characters, even though he can come off as flat and boring

              2. Stannis is gettin’ dat ass. He doesn’t give a shit what it costs even if that means dieing in a meaningless battle against the Boltons during the first onslaught of winter near Winterfell’s ruins.

                1. If they’re shagging behind the scenes, I imagine Stannis would be all business-like about it. Can you imagine him showing actual joy or pleasure under any circumstances? Even if he wins the damn throne he’ll be scowling when he sits down on it

        4. I’m not convinced Stannis knows that she killed Renly. I mean, he ought to know, but I think he intentionally closes his eyes to that.

    3. The rank and file Republicans the Paul people are “usurping” are so used to manipulating their non-informed ranks, they can’t remember how their own process works. Shame on them. Go RON PAUL!

    4. In te words of the venerable Bloodhound Gang, “let the motherfucker burn”.

      1. I think you’re quoting Rock Master Scott.

    5. Some call that growth and change, Fluffy.

    6. Yes, it’s usurpation. Usurpation by conservatives.

      The GOP has been completely overwhelmed by war-mongering, ‘compassionate conservative’ welfare, pro-public ed and pro-govt energy policy centralists.

      The only people troubled by this ‘usurpation’ are exactly the ones who should be and the ones we should all hope to worry. The Romneys and Santorums of the world who have no business calling themselves conservative or small-government.

  3. I would love to see Paul win in the general, just to see how headline writers and graphics people in the MSM resolve the conflict in their programming.

    1. Rachel Maddow: “Breaking news, folks. My head just fucking exploded.” *Station headquarters blows up.

      Chris Matthews: “My leg’s necrotic, requires amputation immediately.”


      1. I was thinking O’Reilly more like this:

        ed 209 vs robocop

        1. Roflmfao, +100.

    2. We’d probably see another “Cats” issue of Time after election day.

  4. “Ron Paul: His Opponents Don’t Even Know They’ve Been Beaten.”
    You’re full of it…..unless you mean by Obama. Ron Paul is beating nothing. He would win in an intelligent world….but alas this ain’t it!

    1. RP is extremely likely to show up in Tampa with WAY more delegates than most people and the MSM expects. It’s a really simple strategy: if you can’t beat them, join them….then take over. RP supporters are getting active and involved in the Republican party leadership, not just sitting around wistfully hoping for that mythical intelligent world to suddenly come into being.

    2. Brian Doherty: what are he and his fellow RP worshipers smoking, and where can I get some?

      1. You don’t want that. It actually does cause brain damage.

        1. I do make people dumb/not subservient to the status quo.

  5. The Paul campaign believes it has won the majority of Maine’s delegates….

    While I appreciate the Paul campaign’s strategy and efforts to do anything and everything to have his ideas heard within a party structure that clearly wants none of it… I fear the only result of his delegate strategy is going to be an official rewriting of the caucus rules for the future and an unofficial rewriting of them for this year.

    1. Yes, one result is likely to be moves towards bound delegates and primaries.

      1. bound delegates and primaries


  6. CNN acted surprised at that graphic but I think its more excitement than anything else. How often do you get to draw attention to Romney for losing while taking away attention from Paul for winning?

    1. Right now CNN is considering an official rewriting of the polling rules for the future and an unofficial rewriting of the results for this poll.

      1. “Romney Loses Recent Poll, Fringe Candidate Involved Somewhere”


    2. That’s not a bug, jasno, that’s a feature.

  7. The way I see it, the RP revolution is creating a new generation of political activists the way the moral majority did in the late 70’s/early 80’s. I doubt you’ll see many people talking in 20 years about how working on the Santorum campaign made them go into politics. Unfortunately the GOP’s SoCons may not stick around if the party refuses to endorse their social agenda.

    1. ” Unfortunately the GOP’s SoCons may not stick around”

      I fail to see the downside of that. Can’t happen soon enough for me.

      1. I wonder what they’ll call their new political party.

        Imperialist Gay Abortion Party sounds good to me.

        Their logo could be a dead fetus shooting at a rainbow with a machine gun.

        1. +1000…Someone needs to photoshop that logo up stat so I can start printing up t-shirts for my IGAP relatives before november.

      2. I’m tempted to agree but without them there’s no way we can get a majority. Oh wait – this is a libertarian board.. we don’t care about winning elections.

        1. I believe they’re what’s holding the GOP back from gaining a majority.

  8. You know, I am starting to think that the best thing that could happen for the Republican party is for Rick Santorum to get the nomination. If this happens, he will be totally annihilated in the general election, since he has no appeal whatsoever to independents. The utter defeat and humiliation of a candidate who is the exact opposite of Ron Paul by a fairly unpopular president could be the leverage the republicans would need to try something they would view as “desperate”.

    If Mitt wins the nomination, he probably still loses to Obama, but not by as much, which would make the Republicans feel they could keep trying to win with the status quo.

    1. The Republican Party apparatus and thinkosphere proved to be remarkable adept at failing to notice the…uhm…elephant in the room after their drubbing in 2008.

      And I’ve watch dyed-in-the-wool Republicans talk themselves around from “that guy is an idiot with no chance” to “our guy is all but the second coming and is assured a Reagan-like victory this fall” in the weeks after the primary victor became clear.

      Both of which leave me far from confident of this kind of prediction.

      The groupthink is strong with Team Red.

      1. Wasn’t Team Blue predicting Democratic majorities for decades to come after the 2008 Obama victory?

        1. The groupthink is strong with Team Blue, too.

          But this issue here is that the Republican decision makers never came to terms with the idea that they lost in 2008 because they had screwed up for eight years. They didn’t recognize that the 2010 surge was in favor of a less interventionist Repbulican party. Instead they figured they could run to the front of the parade, pretended that they had started it and tell the grass-roots participants what the really thought.

          If they continue down that road they will run a candidate less able to beat Obama than a pet rock (who’d be a shoe in) and lose.

          No skin off my back: I won’t be voting for a Republican unless they run Paul. And I don’t think they will, so I’ll vote for Johnson and slept the deeply disturbed sleep of the just.

          1. They didn’t recognize that the 2010 surge was in favor of a less interventionist Repbulican party.

            Unfortunately, to some degree the 2010 surge was because of disparate groups deciding that they all hated what Obama and the Democrats were doing, and the GOP finessing enough to avoid pissing any of them off.

      2. fair enough. I think it would better this time though, since Ron Paul’s doing a lot better than in 2008 and Santorum would probably do worse in the general than McCain did.

      3. Yes, just like the libertarians who thought that the Dems deserved a nice big filibuster proof majority in 2008, ignoring that things like Obamacare are far more difficult to repeal than to stop from passing.

        1. Except if McCain had won, the US would be drafting boys and girls to go and fight in the streets of Tehran right now.

          And don’t forget that McCain had his own proposals for health insurance – which would probably be as screwed up as Obamacare.

    2. You leave out the part where BO gets elected “with a mandate”. And probably drags a bunch of Dems into the Senate on his coattails.

      1. Provided the coattails are made of hemp and wrapped around the senators’ necks, I have no objection.

        Seriously: I don’t think there will be any coattails in this election unless Santorum is nominated. In that case, most of the independents and a lot of Republicans will stay home while the Democrats come out in force to defeat Santorum.

        Beyond that, no other possible candidate draws either the antipathy or enthusiasm to bring voters to the polls.

        If Romney is nominated, I predict the lowest percentage turnout ever. That, in turn, will virtually guarantee the re-election of any incumbent running.

        The only thing that could change the balance in Congress is open seats due to retirements. IIRC, the Democrats are slightly more vulnerable in that respect than the Republicans.

  9. Paul’s ongoing secret victory

    What the

    1. Secrecy
      1. The quality or condition of being secret or hidden; concealment
      2. The ability or habit of keeping secrets; closeness

      1. I get it. Ron Paul is winning but he’s not telling anybody. And he’s not letting anybody tell anybody because it’s a fucking secret.

        This strategy will continue. When he actually wins the White House, he’s not telling anybody. And he’s not letting anybody tell anybody because it’s a fucking secret.

        For decades to come we’re going to be seeing bumper stickers that say “Ron Paul Won and I’m Not Telling”.

        1. Well you better believe that if Ron Paul wins the White House, the networks will postpone projecting a winner until January 20, 2013.

          1. Oh no, no…

            If…nay, when…Ron Paul enters the Oval Office…

            When…Ron Paul enters…The Oval Office…

            What the

            1. Man, you just don’t get it yet.

              He’s not entering the oval office. It would give the secret away.

          2. Okay, you get it.

          3. But 2013 is maybe kind of soon.

  10. Imagine that chaos at the national convention if no one wins a majority in the first round of voting, and a majority of the delegates turn out to be stealth Ron Paul supporters.

    1. Michael Moore will lose weight if that happens. In other words, water will cease to be wet, up shall become down, DNA will no longer be the biological basis for life, Michelle Obama will become a palatable human being, George Lucas will stop shitting all over ‘Star Wars’ creations made by infinitely better writers than him, and John Connor will lead humanity to victory over the Internet Trolls, bringing Trollnet to an end.

        1. Oh, no, I think it’s a lot likelier, but it’ll be such a break from the bullshit, all those universe-altering events will occur. The NYT might go bankrupt, too! Fuck yeah!

          1. The NYT might go bankrupt, too!

            I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

            1. A guy can dream, can’t he? *Rage*

    2. I live for this! After the way Ron Paul himself, his supporters and his delegates were treated by the republican party last time ’round, nothing would thrill me more. They more than earned that kind of karma.

    3. It’s healthy when a daydreamer’s hopes are dashed.

  11. … this is a good point. Nothing shows the strength of Ron Paul like the fact an explicitly anti-libertarian candidate has jumped to the top of all the wingnut polls.

    1. Nothing shows the need for Ron Paul types like the fact an explicitly anti-libertarian has jumped to the top of all the wingnuts’ polls due to loads of cowardice and shoddy government provided education.

      1. shut the fuck up libertoid

        we all know frankalin dellano rosevelt saved us from the grand depression before and during the huge-ass war with the nazee-ist guys from germania.

        also, barack obama is so dreamy

        1. You have convinced me. I repent my libertoidian ways. Where is the nearest recruiting center and country full of brown people I should be murdering?

  12. LIKE WAR? Vote for anyone else, but do NOT vote for Ron Paul.

    1. Sounds like a plan!

    2. We will work like hell to get Barack reelected….

    3. We will work for The War Candidate: War is really good for the economy and helps keep us safe from those that would do us harm.

  13. Go forth and convert your friends who are worried about wasting their vote.

    Don’t Throw Away Your Vote – Vote for the Candidate You Really Want


  14. Don’t vorry about those reports zat ve are loosing ze var, mein lieblings! Joe Goebbels’ polls say… ve are vinning!

    1. Dead. Shitface. And the opposite of libertarian.

    2. You know who else…er…never mind.

    3. Does that count as a Godwin or not?

  15. Okay, I figure Santorum gets about two, maybe three more laps around the track, then it’s time to retire his ass. Just enough to put doubts in everybody’s minds about the “Inevitable Electability” of Rum-Nuts.

    1. Ha! I found it! Rum-Nuts. I’ve been trying for so long to find a name that really fits. You just don’t know how many nights I’ve lost sleep over this.

  16. You know who else…er…never mind.

  17. National Review also has an article on the same issue, by Katrina Trinko. The article is quite neutral and fair about the issue.

  18. “Come writers and critics
    Who prophesize with your pen
    And keep your eyes wide
    The chance won’t come again
    And don’t speak too soon
    For the wheel’s still in spin
    And there’s no tellin’ who
    That it’s namin’
    For the loser now
    Will be later to win
    For the times they are a-changin’.

    “The line it is drawn
    The curse it is cast
    The slow one now
    Will later be fast
    As the present now
    Will later be past
    The order is
    Rapidly fadin’
    And the first one now
    Will later be last
    For the times they are a-changin’.”

    (B. Dylan)

    Sing it with me, people!

    1. God, how I hate Dylan, the most-overrated singer/songwriter in the USofA. EVAR.

      1. The fact that one must be heavily self-medicated to find his work to be profound is very telling.

        Same for Floyd’s Pinky and The Grating Dead.

        1. You’re joking, right? Or else you’ve never listened to his early stuff. Blowin in the Wind et al are great. Since 1980, not much.

          1. Not joking even a little. “Blowin’ In The Wind”? Seriously?


          2. No, I’m not joking. I used to listen to all that hippie shit.
            When I quit using drugs all the time and I had to sell 90% of my music collection because it sucked dread-locked balls.

            If you’ve got to be on acid to find something interesting, chances are it ain’t very interesting.

      2. Same deal with Phart.

      3. If you were a politician and said this in public, everyone would assume that you wanted to ban his music.

      4. Iron Maiden is much better for the soul.

      5. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and even the most overrated singer-songwriter pens something that is eventually appropriate. The whole “Paul listed last” incident just put me in mind of these stanzas.

        Maybe someone can start a rumor that the candidate has died, and then people will listen for backward-masked messages in mainstream-media broadcast reports: “I buried Paul.” “No, _I_ buried Paul!” “No, me!” etc.

        1. Yeah. Then somebody like Time could run a story called “Who buried Paul?”. Except they wouldn’t because it’s a secret.

        2. I shall leave you as you left me, as you left Paul, marooned for all eternity at the center of a dead election cycle. Buried alive. Buried alive.

      6. Lady Gaga is giving him a run for his money now. (assuming you consider her a songwriter rather than just a plagiarist)

  19. Maybe if he put a bird on it.

  20. We reined in (stopped by pulling on reins) our horses when we saw the rain in the kingdom of Squat, where King Adelbert reigns in (rules over) comparative peace and prosperity.

  21. That clip should be called “I Buried Paul (the Lede).”

  22. Doctor Paul is on a roll
    I’ve been told
    He can’t be sold
    He’s not vicious
    Or malicious
    He’s just dee-lovely
    and dee-licious.

    1. I’ve got a cat named the Meowser….(meow meow meow meow meow meow)

  23. The convention was brokered
    And no one could win it but you
    Strange what desire
    Will make foolish people do.
    I never dreamed that they’d vote for someone like you
    I never dreamed that I’d lose someone like you

    No Iiiiiiiiiiiii
    Don’t want to cast my vote
    No Iiiiiiiiiiiii
    Don’t want to cast my vote
    For you
    For you

    What a wicked campaign you waged
    To make me feel this way
    What a wicked thing to do
    To let me be creamed by you
    What a wicked thing to say
    You’d never endorse my way
    What a wicked thing to do
    To make me be creamed by you

    And Iiiiiiiiiiiii
    Don’t want to cast my vote
    And Iiiiiiiiiiiii
    Don’t want to cast my vote
    For you
    For you

    No one….

  24. Instead of “amusingly”, I would have used the word “sleazily”. CNN, Fox, and MSNBC have all amply demonstrated their enthusiastic willingness to distort the news in order to corrupt the election process.

  25. “Strike me down Mitt and I shall become more powerful then you could ever imagine.”

  26. Amazing how they put Paul at the bottom while he reigns at the top. Rudolf didn’t have it this bad.

    1. Behold! Stoopid, angry liberal posts on HuffPo:…..n=comments

      I know… what ARE the odds.

      1. Reason should have that feature. Imagine how fun it would be to have a page where you read only the alabaster native’s posts.

        1. Maybe Homeland Security could do that, since they’re paying General Dynamics to monitor political speech on the webs…

          1. We’d be fine with this, if they were only monitoring right-winger comments.

      2. I work with people like this. They fear me. I kind of like it.

  27. OK wow, who comes up with all that nonsense? I mean like wow.

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