It's hard to imagine a better environment in which to test a government-run health information technology system than Britain's National Health Service. The system is fully socialized, with a single government payer, universal enrollment, and doctors employed directly by the state. There are roughly 60 million beneficiaries, which is big enough to see if the system can scale, but perhaps not so big that it's sure to be overwhelming. It's popular enough that in 2010, the country's conservative party successfully ran on a health platform where the top item was a promise to increase spending on the system every year. In other words, it's about the best possible testing ground for instituting a complex, integrated system of computerized health records through government oversight.
And yet it still hasn't worked. As Greg Scandlen notes, it seems that the country's health system is canceling a multi-year, $20 billion Health IT project after a report concluding that it was impossible to deliver on the plan's ambitious goals. The Independent reports:
A plan to create the world's largest single civilian computer system linking all parts of the National Health Service is to be abandoned by the Government after running up billions of pounds in bills. Ministers are expected to announce next month that they are scrapping a central part of the much-delayed and hugely controversial 10-year National Programme for IT.
Instead, local health trusts and hospitals will be allowed to develop or buy individual computer systems to suit their needs – with a much smaller central server capable of "interrogating" them to provide centralised information on patient care. News of the Government's plans comes as a damning report from a cross-party committee of MPs concludes that the £11.4bn programme had proved "beyond the capacity of the Department of Health to deliver".
The NHS's failure isn't the only government-managed health IT debacle. The 2009 stimulus package included $30 billion to help fund a major health IT rollout here in the U.S. In addition, doctors are spending an average of about $40,000 each to build out electronic health records systems in their offices. But as Marketwatch reported last summer, "even after all that expense, few physicians will be able to send patient records to other doctors who could benefit from having rapid access to medical histories."
As with so much bureaucracy, the biggest problems with publicly managed health IT systems tend to be practical in nature—poor administration and unexpected challenges with implementation. According to The Independent, "The project has been beset by changing specifications, technical challenges and clashes with suppliers, which has left it years behind schedule and way over cost." Technology contractors walked out on the project or failed to deliver. Leadership inside Britain's health service was unable to cope with the competing demands of elected officials and on-the-ground project management. It was a typical bureaucratic mess.
This is not to suggest that electronic health records are themselves a bad idea. But these government-funded efforts to encourage their use don't have a great track record.
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I'll preface my reply with the note that I never read Johnny Mnemonic.
I did read Neuromancer and thought that would make a great movie. But, after hearing others comment on how much different the movie version of JM was from the book, I'm not sure that a movie version of Neuromancer would be done right.
I seem to recall from a recent interview with Gibson that the film rights are out there floating around, but he has no connection or idea what the status is.
I share the doubt of Hollywood making a version worth a damn, despite the knockout visuals you could do.
Maybe Nolan could do it, if they shoved a bunch of money at him and left him alone.
Movies genres are too constrained for more than one or two decent science fiction features a year. Science fiction is fundamentally its own genre, but it has to be dumbed down/warped/added to to make it fit a Hollywood genre. They would make Neuromancer as a high-tech thriller/heist movie, which fundamentally misses the point of the story, which is really about overcoming self-loathing through self-determination.
The future of good science-fiction-books-translated-to-visual media is TV. Game of Thrones is the great example, though there are some others. That format allows more time to present the story, if nothing else, and the acting and production values in that sort of television are better, if anything, than most films.
In March 2011, with the news that Seven Arts and GFM Films would be merging their distribution operations, it was announced that the joint venture would be purchasing the rights to Neuromancer under Vincenzo Natali's direction at the upcoming Cannes Film Festival. Natali's film went into pre-production in May 2011, and filming is expected to begin in 2012 with a budget of $60 million.
The only problem with TV is that self-contained novels like Neuromancer have to either be stretched to multiple seasons, or semi-unrelated seasons have to be made with a different cast (something I'm not sure TV audiences can accept.)
Yeah, I don't understand why HBO doesn't do miniseries. There's a lot of science fiction/fantasy that can't effectively be turned into either a movie or a 5-season TV show.
HBO is profitable, but their brand of fancy TV is really expensive, and my understanding is that shows like GoT and Boardwalk operate essentially as loss leaders that help bolster the brand and keep a certain segment of people subscribing. A miniseries might generate a bit of short-term interest, but it doesn't help with the sort of dedicated, long-term subscriber base that HBO wants to keep and build. (Movies are OK, on the other hand, because shooting a two hour political dramedy is much cheaper than shooting 10 hours of sets-n-effects heavy high fantasy.)
The exception to this is probably something like John Adams, an expensive miniseries -- but you'll notice that HBO has not followed up with similar projects. Obviously now that I've said this, HBO will announce GEORGE WASHINGTON: THE MINISERIES this afternoon.
The best true science fiction movie I've ever seen was Equilibrium. If you discount all the crazy gun-fu action sequences, it was an actual science fiction story.
Here's the interesting thing: Gibson was all over the production of JM. He approved the look, was on set, very involved for a story author seeing his work translated to the big screen. Just because someone is a great novelist/short story writer doesn't mean they know what will make the same sorts of stories work on screen.
I think it's just rough to visualize what's going on when you read the story then see something completely different on screen. Granted there are many things in a good fantasy or sci-fi story that just can't possibly play right in a movie.
It's like how people picture Obamacare--Obama himself coming to your rescue, feeling your pain, and restoring you with the best technology available. All at no cost to you!
Because forcing me to subsidize other people's medical bills through higher insurance premiums and other medical costs is totally not at all the same as forcing me to subsidize other people's medical bills via direct payments to the government.
The US military health care system has electronic medical records. From my view as a patient, the system seemed to work pretty well. I don't know how the doctors and other staff feel about it.
Interesting fact, the British NHS is the third biggest organisation in the the world, after the Chinese army and the Indian rails company. Anyone who thinks that "single payer" or "universal" access saves on costs is simply stupid.
Classic IT project gone bad: tried to do too much from the start (e.g.; solving world hunger), solicited input from too many people, steady project scope creep, failure of oversight, too many people responsible such that no one is, etc.
She's not a typical modern liberal -- she's had enough run-ins with the bureaucracy to deeply distrust some of it, but hasn't yet extended that distrust to all of government.
Nothing like being a borderline one-percenter to call into question one's liberal childhood indoctrination.
It's not the computers -- the systems run on existing computers in the office -- the cost is for software that complies with Obamacare mandates. There is a cheap version out there, that cranks up labor costs because it runs slowly and badly, and a much more expensive system that fucks things up less badly.
I can't believe there isn't already a product management database out there that could do the job right. oohhhh, but but but, the products in this example are people, that takes TOP. SOFTWARE.
Her office already had a slick software system that worked well, pre-Obamacare. The mandates are a clusterfuck that just doesn't work well even with the best system out there.
Going paperless is actually very difficult. And as someone whose spent a career in Healthcare IT, I can tell you from experience that sometimes it's the office that's trying to go paperless that you should avoid.
In addition, people are people. And sorry, doctors are no different.
You've got a small percentage at the top who adapt well to health informatics systems, a large group in the middle that accept it and muddle their way through the idiosyncracies and bugs of various systems, and then a small percentage at the bottom who literally cannot practice medicine when you enter a computer into the equation.
I have a printer at home, but -only- because it has a scanner built in, which I had to use to prove my ID to some organization or another. Fuck, now I even forget what it was for.
Paperless just means that the organization's official records are kept organized via computer. Reading through long shit on Word sucks. I like scratching notes or sketches and working out some processes on paper, directly on the printed thing. And I like to have hard copies of shit like formal documents, designs, and instructions I can just keep in an order when looking at the computer file is a pain in the ass for some reason. Also, I hate lugging around laptops and tablets so I don't do it. Everything I personally need is on a portable drive (I consider stuff on a server to be the backup), but a folder with all the important shit organized is always the most portable thing and easy to work with without relying on computers all the time.
What is the very first thing they do when they are assigned a task for a paperless document?
They print it.
That's a generational issue in my experience. I've worked for an overregulated Fortune 20, a 1500, and a small private company and it's been the same in each (though they're all orders of magnitude better than the government). I doubt paperless will take off until the 18 - 35 set becomes a majority of the executive.
And if you found out what your doctor's problem-solving skills were when it came to that thingy on his desk with wires sticking out of it, you'd stop going to him/her as well.
Dude, with the number of my friends who are now doctors, I'm never going to a doctor again anyway. I've learned that doctors are all unreliable alcoholics.
my brother is a doctor - I wouldn't trust him to change his own sparkplugs or make a rational decision (especially after his second wife). But yet he is a supposed to be a god when dealing with health? Er, yeah.
There's the labor cost of transcribing patients' files. Depending on the size of the office, I can see it taking someone a year to complete the task.
Definitely. A good organization can sort through the chaff though, and cut that time down. This can also depend on the type of the practice.
Often times when clinics start looking at the Congressional Library of charts on their wall, they realize they only regularly see maybe 5-10% of those charts. Then another 20 or 30% are seen occasionally, etc.
Instead, local health trusts and hospitals will be allowed to develop or buy individual computer systems to suit their needs ? with a much smaller central server capable of "interrogating" them to provide centralised information on patient care.
I am not sure if the Brits are capable of detecting irony, or at least the irony of a fully centralized health delivery system having to rely on decentralized databases because the centralized pipedream it wanted is not feasible...
I'm going to say that the British NHS is actually going to be one of the most difficult places to introduce a healthcare informatics system... because it's a monolith.
Imagine trying to build a system which satisfies the needs of 60 million patients... and their doctors serving them.
If anyone has ever tried to implement a healthcare IT system for any organization of any significant size, you'll discover how difficult impossible it is to please everyone. Because of the centralized nature of the NHS, that's essentially what you're going to have to do.
And if you don't have project managers that are on the goddamned ball, the feature creep and whine factor can kill even the most well-planned project.
On the project I work on they solved the feature creep and whine factor by putting a committee in charge.
Now nothing gets done.
That's why I waste so much time here.
On a positive note I have an interview next week with an employer that would actually put me to work.
So if I stop posting links to skinny chicks on the dailymail you'll know why.
At some point there's going to be a committe somewhere, so it's really how well that committe works, and who's in charge of the committee.
Never underestimate the power of the word "No".
Unfortunately, you don't get to be employee of the month by saying "no" so the word "yes" gets used way too often and that way lies madness. Especially when your "yes" is a check you're writing that someone else is cashing with their ass. Then "Yes" gets really easy to say.
The best projects get done efficiently and on-time when the word "no" is used more liberally than "yes".
Of course, having customers that cannot define their requirements and stick to them also makes it difficult to accomplish things.
That's where a good project manager comes in. He/she can keep the customer on track and sell them on why their constant shifting requirements are not in their interest.
ONe of the best ways to handle this is to add actual cost to shifting requirements.
"Sure, Bob we can change the specs, if you'll refer back to your contract, that will cost an additional $10,000"
You'd be amazed at what a customer can soldier their way through when they realize that the change will cost them.
I work with oil companies. Major oil companies. You can't make them care about what change requests cost. Normally, the only way you can get them to care is by moving out delivery. But we're looking at delivery in late '14 already, so right now we can't even get them to acknowledge a schedule impact.
Speaking from experience, it's hard enough to run an ERP system mid-sized company.
With accounting, inventory, shipping - and all the hooks that Lean, Quality wants. Throw in disparate communication protocols - both in and out, inculuding X12, Edifact, XML, flat files, spreadsheets... it's a wonder it runs as well as it does.
Nobody who hasn't worked in healthcare can imagine the unbelievable complexity of health care documentation and systems. I can't even think of an analogy or a simile for it.
Interesting article.
Doesn't change the fact that John is a tool and a neocon warmonger.
^?
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Same goes with dunphys and cops.
You want him on that wall. You need him on that wall.
Much of the reason for that movie evaporated in the face of 32 gig thumb drives.
But let's not get started on the complete trainwreck they made of Gibson's original short story.
"Much of the reason for that movie evaporated in the face of 32 gig thumb drives"
Or did you totally miss the point?
Did I read the movie? No. I find script-reading tedious, especially after the movie's already been made and I can just watch it.
Try to keep up with the distinction between the movie and the short story, failed smartass.
I'll preface my reply with the note that I never read Johnny Mnemonic.
I did read Neuromancer and thought that would make a great movie. But, after hearing others comment on how much different the movie version of JM was from the book, I'm not sure that a movie version of Neuromancer would be done right.
I seem to recall from a recent interview with Gibson that the film rights are out there floating around, but he has no connection or idea what the status is.
I share the doubt of Hollywood making a version worth a damn, despite the knockout visuals you could do.
Maybe Nolan could do it, if they shoved a bunch of money at him and left him alone.
Movies genres are too constrained for more than one or two decent science fiction features a year. Science fiction is fundamentally its own genre, but it has to be dumbed down/warped/added to to make it fit a Hollywood genre. They would make Neuromancer as a high-tech thriller/heist movie, which fundamentally misses the point of the story, which is really about overcoming self-loathing through self-determination.
The future of good science-fiction-books-translated-to-visual media is TV. Game of Thrones is the great example, though there are some others. That format allows more time to present the story, if nothing else, and the acting and production values in that sort of television are better, if anything, than most films.
Hollywood is dark and full of terrors.
Via the ever so reliable Wikipedia, I learn this:
In March 2011, with the news that Seven Arts and GFM Films would be merging their distribution operations, it was announced that the joint venture would be purchasing the rights to Neuromancer under Vincenzo Natali's direction at the upcoming Cannes Film Festival. Natali's film went into pre-production in May 2011, and filming is expected to begin in 2012 with a budget of $60 million.
Based on Cube, maybe. Based on Splice, hell no.
The only problem with TV is that self-contained novels like Neuromancer have to either be stretched to multiple seasons, or semi-unrelated seasons have to be made with a different cast (something I'm not sure TV audiences can accept.)
Yeah, I don't understand why HBO doesn't do miniseries. There's a lot of science fiction/fantasy that can't effectively be turned into either a movie or a 5-season TV show.
And GOT shows the way for doing complex genre fiction on TV: No info dumps, no plot checkpoints. Trust the audience to follow a story.
HBO is profitable, but their brand of fancy TV is really expensive, and my understanding is that shows like GoT and Boardwalk operate essentially as loss leaders that help bolster the brand and keep a certain segment of people subscribing. A miniseries might generate a bit of short-term interest, but it doesn't help with the sort of dedicated, long-term subscriber base that HBO wants to keep and build. (Movies are OK, on the other hand, because shooting a two hour political dramedy is much cheaper than shooting 10 hours of sets-n-effects heavy high fantasy.)
The exception to this is probably something like John Adams, an expensive miniseries -- but you'll notice that HBO has not followed up with similar projects. Obviously now that I've said this, HBO will announce GEORGE WASHINGTON: THE MINISERIES this afternoon.
The best true science fiction movie I've ever seen was Equilibrium. If you discount all the crazy gun-fu action sequences, it was an actual science fiction story.
Here's the interesting thing: Gibson was all over the production of JM. He approved the look, was on set, very involved for a story author seeing his work translated to the big screen. Just because someone is a great novelist/short story writer doesn't mean they know what will make the same sorts of stories work on screen.
I think it's just rough to visualize what's going on when you read the story then see something completely different on screen. Granted there are many things in a good fantasy or sci-fi story that just can't possibly play right in a movie.
They weren't using TOP MEN I bet.
When health IT becomes health AI, and then tries to kill you!
Health Skynet?
Naga's ghost!
BEGONE, FOUL SHADE! I BANISH THEE!
Please. We need diversity of ideas. Including the thoughts and recommendations of Sith Lords.
I mean, Vader had some pretty fucking awesome health coverage.
Yeah, you try getting Medicare to spring for those prostheses.
It's like how people picture Obamacare--Obama himself coming to your rescue, feeling your pain, and restoring you with the best technology available. All at no cost to you!
The circle is now complete.
When I left you, I was but a 'bater. Now I am the porn star.
I love looking at socialized medicine failures and knowing that despite these failures, we're going to engage in the exact same shit.
insurence regs =/ socialized medicine
Yeah.
Because forcing me to subsidize other people's medical bills through higher insurance premiums and other medical costs is totally not at all the same as forcing me to subsidize other people's medical bills via direct payments to the government.
Re: Triple Asshole,
insurence regs = price controls = socialized medicine
Can we please stick to one form of 'not equals'?
I propose the C/C++ method of "!="
Alternate proposals?
I propose the Java/javascript method of "!="
Oh wait...
I propose the C/C++ method of "!="
Seconded. And equivalence is '==', not '='.
I concur, but it's going too far.
I would accept Oracle PL/SQL's ""
/
<>
That was a pain in the ass.
great suggestion?
Old BASIC is too pedestrian for some people, but... GOOD SUGGESTION... GOOD SUGGESTION *claps vigorously* NO WRONG ANSWERS HERE *keeps clapping*
Can we please stick to one form of 'not equals'?
I propose the C/C++ method of "!="
Your groupthink condemnation of creative rejections of statist posts is doubleplusungood.
it's gonna take me at least an hour to decode that.
Needs more GOTOs
Fuck spaghetti code, I write fettuccine!
I prefer to code penne- or farfalle-style. Holds the sauce better.
Yeah, but have you ever tried to debug Angel Hair?
Being an .awk kind of guy, != and == works for me.
The best way to make sure nothing gets done is to put a committee in charge.
This works the other way too, like regulatory committees.
Regulatory committees make sure nothing gets done.
Works the same way.
The US military health care system has electronic medical records. From my view as a patient, the system seemed to work pretty well. I don't know how the doctors and other staff feel about it.
Once we stopped thinking for ourselves it became their world.
Interesting fact, the British NHS is the third biggest organisation in the the world, after the Chinese army and the Indian rails company. Anyone who thinks that "single payer" or "universal" access saves on costs is simply stupid.
But economies of scale derp!
Classic IT project gone bad: tried to do too much from the start (e.g.; solving world hunger), solicited input from too many people, steady project scope creep, failure of oversight, too many people responsible such that no one is, etc.
You left out: "Run by a government, and thus not subject to competitive marketplace pressures."
The Perfect Storm of FuckItUp.
In addition, doctors are spending an average of about $40,000 each to build out electronic health records systems in their offices.
My liberal wife, who is a doctor, HATES all the crap Obamacare is already doing to fuck up her practice.
Because when liberal policies actually affect you, and not some chimeric rich one-percenter...
She's not a typical modern liberal -- she's had enough run-ins with the bureaucracy to deeply distrust some of it, but hasn't yet extended that distrust to all of government.
Nothing like being a borderline one-percenter to call into question one's liberal childhood indoctrination.
, doctors are spending an average of about $40,000 each to build out electronic health records systems in their offices
are they buying the computers via a time portal to 1996?
It's not the computers -- the systems run on existing computers in the office -- the cost is for software that complies with Obamacare mandates. There is a cheap version out there, that cranks up labor costs because it runs slowly and badly, and a much more expensive system that fucks things up less badly.
as always, mandates, go fuck ya selves.
I can't believe there isn't already a product management database out there that could do the job right. oohhhh, but but but, the products in this example are people, that takes TOP. SOFTWARE.
wtf
Her office already had a slick software system that worked well, pre-Obamacare. The mandates are a clusterfuck that just doesn't work well even with the best system out there.
excuse me, I need to go schedule a doctor appointment, as I'm about to shove my palm right through the entire breadth of my skull. Literally.
There's the labor cost of transcribing patients' files. Depending on the size of the office, I can see it taking someone a year to complete the task.
fair enough. temps ain't cheap.
A doctor's office not yet going paperless is a good indicator that you shouldn't go there.
Going paperless is actually very difficult. And as someone whose spent a career in Healthcare IT, I can tell you from experience that sometimes it's the office that's trying to go paperless that you should avoid.
In addition, people are people. And sorry, doctors are no different.
You've got a small percentage at the top who adapt well to health informatics systems, a large group in the middle that accept it and muddle their way through the idiosyncracies and bugs of various systems, and then a small percentage at the bottom who literally cannot practice medicine when you enter a computer into the equation.
I help maintain a digital document management system used by government engineers.
What is the very first thing they do when they are assigned a task for a paperless document?
They print it.
Fucking idiots. But I guess that's why they work for the government.
We all do it, not just government employees. It's much easier to redline some things on a paper copy. The redlining tools for documents kind of suck.
Especially engineering drawings.
We all do it
I don't. At least only rarely.
I have a printer at home, but -only- because it has a scanner built in, which I had to use to prove my ID to some organization or another. Fuck, now I even forget what it was for.
I haven't used it in at least a year.
Come on, you do it. You love to do it. We all do it. You do it.
Paperless just means that the organization's official records are kept organized via computer. Reading through long shit on Word sucks. I like scratching notes or sketches and working out some processes on paper, directly on the printed thing. And I like to have hard copies of shit like formal documents, designs, and instructions I can just keep in an order when looking at the computer file is a pain in the ass for some reason. Also, I hate lugging around laptops and tablets so I don't do it. Everything I personally need is on a portable drive (I consider stuff on a server to be the backup), but a folder with all the important shit organized is always the most portable thing and easy to work with without relying on computers all the time.
What is the very first thing they do when they are assigned a task for a paperless document?
They print it.
That's a generational issue in my experience. I've worked for an overregulated Fortune 20, a 1500, and a small private company and it's been the same in each (though they're all orders of magnitude better than the government). I doubt paperless will take off until the 18 - 35 set becomes a majority of the executive.
I don't go to my doctor for his administrative skills.
And if you found out what your doctor's problem-solving skills were when it came to that thingy on his desk with wires sticking out of it, you'd stop going to him/her as well.
I'm waiting for the invention of Health Engineers.
They can actually fix your health problems, do it in a timely manner, and you just have to deal with cryptic and incomplete documentation.
Oh, like the user's manual I got with this body was so fucking useful. Any documentation would be a step up.
Dude, with the number of my friends who are now doctors, I'm never going to a doctor again anyway. I've learned that doctors are all unreliable alcoholics.
That's unfair. Some are drug addicts.
substance abuse aside, they all have no handwriting skills, and a skewed perception of the passage of time.
substance abuse aside, they all have no handwriting skills, and a skewed perception of the passage of time.
Dr's can also suffer from the misapprehention that because they got through Medical school (no easy task I readily admit) they can do anything.
they can do anything
Excluding the keeping appointments.
Taking reservations is easy. We're all taking reservations... it's the holding that you don't seem to have down.
my brother is a doctor - I wouldn't trust him to change his own sparkplugs or make a rational decision (especially after his second wife). But yet he is a supposed to be a god when dealing with health? Er, yeah.
There's the labor cost of transcribing patients' files. Depending on the size of the office, I can see it taking someone a year to complete the task.
Definitely. A good organization can sort through the chaff though, and cut that time down. This can also depend on the type of the practice.
Often times when clinics start looking at the Congressional Library of charts on their wall, they realize they only regularly see maybe 5-10% of those charts. Then another 20 or 30% are seen occasionally, etc.
I'm guessing greater than 75% of the cost is consulting fees.
but but but, why do you hate jobs?!
oh, wait, when said job doesn't contribute anything worthwhile...
I am not sure if the Brits are capable of detecting irony, or at least the irony of a fully centralized health delivery system having to rely on decentralized databases because the centralized pipedream it wanted is not feasible...
I'm shaking my Fist of Non-Etiquette at you, Old Mex. I was scrolling through the comments hoping no one made that point so that I could make it.
I have to say I'm impressed they just came out and admitted it was beyond their capacity.
they just came out and admitted it was beyond their capacity
...after they pissed away a few billion pounds.
arriving at obvious conclusions ain't cheap...wait, what?
They didn't want to, but evil austerity coerced them into it.
I'm going to say that the British NHS is actually going to be one of the most difficult places to introduce a healthcare informatics system... because it's a monolith.
Imagine trying to build a system which satisfies the needs of 60 million patients... and their doctors serving them.
If anyone has ever tried to implement a healthcare IT system for any organization of any significant size, you'll discover how difficult impossible it is to please everyone. Because of the centralized nature of the NHS, that's essentially what you're going to have to do.
And if you don't have project managers that are on the goddamned ball, the feature creep and whine factor can kill even the most well-planned project.
On the project I work on they solved the feature creep and whine factor by putting a committee in charge.
Now nothing gets done.
That's why I waste so much time here.
On a positive note I have an interview next week with an employer that would actually put me to work.
So if I stop posting links to skinny chicks on the dailymail you'll know why.
At some point there's going to be a committe somewhere, so it's really how well that committe works, and who's in charge of the committee.
Never underestimate the power of the word "No".
Unfortunately, you don't get to be employee of the month by saying "no" so the word "yes" gets used way too often and that way lies madness. Especially when your "yes" is a check you're writing that someone else is cashing with their ass. Then "Yes" gets really easy to say.
The best projects get done efficiently and on-time when the word "no" is used more liberally than "yes".
We don't have committees. We have processes. They do much the same thing.
Of course, having customers that cannot define their requirements and stick to them also makes it difficult to accomplish things.
Of course, having customers that cannot define their requirements and stick to them also makes it difficult to accomplish things.
That's where a good project manager comes in. He/she can keep the customer on track and sell them on why their constant shifting requirements are not in their interest.
ONe of the best ways to handle this is to add actual cost to shifting requirements.
"Sure, Bob we can change the specs, if you'll refer back to your contract, that will cost an additional $10,000"
You'd be amazed at what a customer can soldier their way through when they realize that the change will cost them.
I work with oil companies. Major oil companies. You can't make them care about what change requests cost. Normally, the only way you can get them to care is by moving out delivery. But we're looking at delivery in late '14 already, so right now we can't even get them to acknowledge a schedule impact.
Good point. Cost is cost. So it sounds like you're using time as the instrument of cost. Whatever works.
I don't care if it's a committee or a process, just GIVE ME SOMETHING TO DO! I'M BORED OUT OF MY FUCKING MIND OVER HERE!
God I hope this new job works out.
Speaking from experience, it's hard enough to run an ERP system mid-sized company.
With accounting, inventory, shipping - and all the hooks that Lean, Quality wants. Throw in disparate communication protocols - both in and out, inculuding X12, Edifact, XML, flat files, spreadsheets... it's a wonder it runs as well as it does.
How about we change the goal of the system to something other than "to please everyone"?
Nobody who hasn't worked in healthcare can imagine the unbelievable complexity of health care documentation and systems. I can't even think of an analogy or a simile for it.
I can't even think of an analogy or a simile for it.
Climate science.
Try tax rules.