The TSA's War on Innocent Travelers
The threat of terrorism has radically diminished. So why is Obama trying to expand the TSA's reach?
Editor's Note: This column is reprinted with permission of the Washington Examiner. Click here to read it at that site.
"Rand Paul has got to be on the 'Top 10 People TSA Would Be Smart to Leave Alone' list," National Review's Jonah Goldberg tweeted when news broke of the senator's run-in with the Transportation Security Administration at Nashville International Airport last week.
Kentucky's junior senator missed his flight when he refused a pat-down after a body scanner showed an "anomaly" on his knee.
Someone with a conspiratorial mind-set might suspect a little payback for the grilling Paul gave TSA Administrator John Pistole last summer over the agency's policy of giving the "freedom fondle" to innocent 6-year-old girls. But that assumes the TSA has enough on the ball to carry out even a minor conspiracy.
What Paul experienced was just the routine, pointless indignity that is the agency's stock in trade. While the terrorist threat has diminished radically, the Obama administration is busy expanding the agency's reach onto highways, sporting events, and train stations.
Much has been made of the bizarre martial metaphors President Obama employed in his State of the Union last week, where he urged Americans to adopt the spirit of "unit cohesion" animating SEAL Team 6: "All that mattered that day was the mission. No one thought about politics. No one thought about themselves."
Yes, why can't America function as a highly trained military unit that obeys Obama's every command without questioning it?
What made the martial rhetoric even odder was that Obama's speech began with an admission that the country is, in fact, quite safe: "For the first time in two decades, Osama bin Laden is not a threat to this country. Most of al Qaeda's top lieutenants have been defeated."
The safety we enjoy owes very little to TSA's competence and a great deal to our adversary's incompetence. Terrorism expert and Cato Institute senior fellow John Mueller notes "the rather impressive inability of the terrorists [in post-9/11 cases] to create and set off a bomb."
Indeed, "the only method by which Islamic terrorists have managed to kill anyone at all in the United States since 9/11 has been through the firing of guns—in the Little Rock and Fort Hood cases."
Even as the threat recedes, Obama's Department of Homeland Security—of which TSA is a part—is expanding the use of paramilitary checkpoints at home. In Leesburg, Fla., earlier this month, federal agents armed with semiautomatic weapons checked IDs in a training exercise at a local Social Security Administration office.
TSA VIPR teams—for Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response—conducted over 9,300 random searches in 2011, on cruise ships, at NASCAR races, on buses, and at train stations.
The Los Angeles Times described one such search at the Charlotte, N.C, Amtrak station in January, in which "three federal air marshals in bulletproof vests and two officers trained to spot suspicious behavior watched closely as Seiko, a German shepherd, nosed [a fiftysomething lawyer's] trousers for chemical traces of a bomb."
"TSA officials say they have no proof that the roving [VIPR] teams have foiled any terrorist plots or thwarted any major threat to public safety," the L.A. Times noted. Still, TSA wants funding for a dozen more VIPR teams.
Contemplating "mission creep" in Obama's TSA suggests a different martial metaphor than those employed by our newly militaristic president last Tuesday. In his book Wartime, Paul Fussell, a veteran of the Pacific theater in World War II, devotes a whole chapter to "petty harassment" by those in power—which soldiers summed up with a salty term: "chickens--t."
"Frequent, unnecessary inspections," "insistence on the letter rather than the spirit of ordinances"—it "can be recognized instantly," Fussell writes, because it never has anything to do with winning the war."
Gene Healy is a vice president at the Cato Institute and author of The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power (Cato 2008). He is a columnist at the Washington Examiner, where this article originally appeared. Click here to read it at that site.
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When people start to feel safe, they do foolish things like questioning their betters in government. We can't have that.
"The safety we enjoy owes very little to TSA's competence and a great deal to our adversary's incompetence. Terrorism expert and Cato Institute senior fellow John Mueller notes..."
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TSA Confiscates More Than 1,000 Guns From Airplane Passengers in 2011
Transportation Security Administration officers have confiscated more than 1,000 guns that were discovered by security personnel as passengers traveled through airport security screenings so far this year, the head of the TSA said.
"More than 10 years after the Sept. 11 attacks, people are still trying to bring deadly weapons into the cabin of an airplane," TSA administrator John Pistole said at George Washington University's Homeland Security Policy Institute.
"On Tuesday, just two days ago, we detected nine guns passengers had in their carry-on bags at various checkpoints around the country." Pistole said.
Pistole showed several slides of drugs and weapons that passengers were attempting to bring or smuggle on board aircraft.
One slide showed a veritable arsenal allegedly taken from a man arrested at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport after, officials said, TSA officers discovered two handguns, three ammunition clips and eight knives in his bag last month.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....s-in-2011/
Of course, the guns they usually confiscate are like these.
Awww, you actually believe the TSA is doing a damn thing to improve security. That's so... cute? sad? pathetic? retarded?
That's so... cute? sad? pathetic? retarded?
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"And people keep feeding him."
So what? Why is that any business of yours asshole?
I'll never get why cunts lie you think they get to have an opinion on that.
Yet you're expressing an opinion attacking sugarfree for expressing an opinion... Kind of undermines the point you're trying to make, doesn't it?
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Non-sequitur.
1) Are you alleging that every one of those people was a terrorist?
2) Do you think people just started carrying guns onto airplanes in 2001?
3) If somebody does carry a gun onto a plane and tries to use it to hijack the plane, the passengers will take the guy down. The "sit there and pray they don't kill you" line that the government peddled for 30 years previously is dead. The passengers now know they have nothing to lose by fighting for their lives.
ive stated facts which clearly refute the libtoidz meme that TSA does NOT execute its mission & therefore merely hassles passengers.
Sorry, nothing in that quote you used indicates that the TSA "executed its mission". It just says they confiscated a bunch of stuff, which has very little to preventing a terrorist attack - the ostensible TSA "Mission."
stuff? weapons aint ipods
The quote referred to "drugs and weapons", hence "stuff".
Again, you have offered no evidence that the confiscation of the guns actually made passengers safer (unless you are one of those people who wets his pants every time he sees someone other than a government official carrying a gun and thinks all guns should be taken away from private citizens.) I repeat my first question: Are you alleging that every one of those 1,000 guns came from a terrorist? Or even a significant fraction of them? (I can't recall any of the fancifull plots "uncovered" by Homeland Security in the last 10 years that involved smuggling a gun onto a plane. There have, however, been numerous cases of people actually succeeding in smuggling guns onto a plane in order to test the system.)
As for the drugs, when did the TSA become part of the DEA? If the "drug" had been Tabun, we certainly would have heard about it.
what a blind ideological position to assert that civilian weapons on aircraft makes anyone safer. >shootouts at 30k feet may make for a good game, but not in real life
How many "shootouts at 30,000 feet" have EVER taken place?
And you still have not answered my initial question.
""what a blind ideological position to assert that civilian weapons on aircraft makes anyone safer. >""
I'll bite, and for arguements sake I won't disagree.
So what is the TSA looking for on the highways far from airports? People do carry guns in their cars legally.
what a blind ideological position to assert that civilian weapons on aircraft makes anyone safer.
What a blind ideological position to assert that civilian weapons require the presence of a government agency to detect them.
They confiscated a "weapon" from me in Phoenix a couple of years ago: A Gerber multitool I had forgotten about in my laptop bag that had about the same liklihood of being used in a terrorist act as Lindsay Lohan does of coming up clean at her next court-appointed drug screen.
You posted facts that the TSA claims they confiscated a bunch of guns, however, since their mandate is improved SECURITY, the confiscation of guns could easily be presumed as ANTI-security.
So, what you really did is post facts that potentially show the TSA is deliberately doing the opposite of its mandate.
Nice job tard.
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1,000 guns?
Even assuming that there each gun had a separate owner, that means that only one in 53,700 people were carrying.
The TSA employs around 45,000 people, which means it took about 45 TSA agents to find each gun. And assume they make a paltry $20,000 (I suspect it's more). That means we spent $900,000 to find each fucking gun.
"The latest data from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics show that U.S. airlines carried 53.7 million passengers in January, up 2.2% from a year earlier."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....-load.html
I thought it's mission was to hassle passengers. In order to make them feel safer.
If getting your gun taken away isn't a hassle, I don't know what is.
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Since you are not using it, I'm gonna take your other handle for a little joyride.
BTW, if that was one thousand guns in one day of air travel that would almost be statistically significant.
Why do we need the TSA to spot guns and knives in people's luggage?
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"TSA Confiscates More Than 1,000 Guns From Airplane Passengers in 2011"
Considering the fact that we had metal detectors at airports prior to 9/11 and the TSA, I fail to see how this is a justification of the TSA's existence since these are weapons that would have been detected and confiscated anyway.
it's govt math, sort of like any improvement in the economy or the finding of Bin Laden is credited to Obama. As someone once said, 80% of success is just showing up. People confuse correlation with causation. And when govt spends bazillions in a massive new bureaucracy, it will use ANY positive evidence as proof of success.
^This^
We don't need the TSA to keep guns and knives off planes.
The good old days, remember, back when they used to ask you if you were a hijacker or if a hijacker gave you a bag to take on the plane. NOW that was Security.
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And drugs in someone's carry-on are a danger to other passengers how, exactly?
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Could you imagine a 4 hour plane ride next to a talkative cokehead? I'd take a screaming child any day of the week.
Prior to 1975 it was perfectly legal to carry a handgun onto an airplane. And people felt safe.
I also enjoy his name: Pistole, as in Pistole Parabellum 1908.
except the ones that were abducted &/or died in criminal hijackings.
And yet people were just itching to join the jet set.
Probably something to do with having a sense of perspective or understanding the odds of being mugged in their own neighborhoods.
Yeah. I bet they wished they were armed when all that happened. or did they feel safe when they were being abducted?
civilian shootouts at 30k feet is a good game, not good air travel
Like when? Is it a better game than "Submit to a Hijacking?" Does that one "feel safer?"
"""civilian shootouts at 30k feet is a good game, not good air travel""
But military shootouts are ok.
And how many of those people were arrested and charged with terrorist crimes? How many were arrested at all? How many were talked to, detained for a bit, and sent home?
TSA finds a lot, but won't release data on how many people are actually charged with anything. Interesting, isn't it?
Lordy knows, those drugs they're finding with those wonderfully specific warrants are going to bring this country to its knees!
Let me guess...they were all hidden in his belt and shoes.
You know, this whole problem would go away if they only allow chicks in bikinis to do the pat downs.
That would only give people a reason to start carrying things that are likely to set off the detectors and force a pat down. That would mean we'd have to show up 6 hours in advance instead of 2 to catch our flights.
But it would be worth it.
But it would be worth it.
Only if the pat-down came with a happy ending. Otherwise, you'd be getting all worked up over nothing. JFK to LAX is a long way to go with blue balls.
You know what to tell the stewardess when she says the quotidian, "If there's anything we can do to make your flight more comfortable or enjoyable..."
+1
The threat of terrorism has radically diminished
I find that a dubious proposition. If anything, the continuing and expanding Drone War is probably creating more enemies for the US than ever before.
But the TSA is pure security theater and is absolutely useless when it comes to fighting terrorism. It is nothing more than a self-serving bureaucracy.
I agree completely. But your average newly created enemy of the US via drone attacks lives in a mud hut in some shit hole valley in a shit hole country, and his wealth is determined by how many goats he has in his flock.
In short, these newly minted enemies don't have the means necessary to do a goddamn thing but shoot their shitty AK47s at US troops, or plant a primitive IED along a "road".
In shorter short, they haven't the means to be a threat.
"self-serving bureaucracy"
Is there any other kind?
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"Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response?conducted over 9,300 random searches in 2011, on cruise ships, at NASCAR races, on buses, and at train stations."
Can a person refuse a search a VIPR team search? Has anyone chosen to get off a bus instead? Leave a race, or a train station?
Why NASCAR? Is the Bubba quota of car terrorists under their mandated no racial profiling stats?
In Savannah, Georgia the TSA was searching people who were getting off a train at the end of their trip.
What can be their justification for a search after-the-fact?
Nearly 10K in searches and not one case of resisting?
Sounds like those people didn't know that a simple "fuck off and die" would suffice just as much as submitting to an illegal search.
There's no tsa groping at tractor pulls or wal marts. Curious, that.
Don't give them ideas.
There's no groping at tractor pulls by the TSA. FIFY
Not *yet*, Mainer, but with Obama's blessing, we'll soon be.
VIPR is at some NASCAR events, which is the redneck equivalent of a tractor pull inside a Wal-Mart with Bocephus slurring out a song about football.
How the fuck do they decide a NASCAR event has anything to do with passenger transportation and is therefore subject to TSA?
They use their special government psychic powers, doofus.
It really is about the normalization of ubiquitous and continuous 4th Amendment violation. When anything you do is on a "voluntary" basis, the fig leaf they have is that you can opt out. It's already ridiculous to think you can opt out (in all circumstances) of air travel. The logical end point is that you don't have to leave your house, so you can be searched everywhere.
So true. It was clear with the scanners in airports that although nobody really argued that they increased security that much, it was really important to the government that people agree to submit to the scans. It's not so much about protecting people as it is getting people comfortable with the idea of the government using weird machines to scan them.
Have you seen some of the RVs that show up for NASCAR races? My house (with yard) is smaller and cheaper. No telling how many terrorists you could fit in one of those things.
'Cept the NASCAR dipshits undoubtedly welcome them with open arms. Them racin' folk love them sum gubmint authoritah.
Which is sad, given how the sport started.
Them racin' folk love them sum gubmint authoritah.
Yep, these are the people who really do believe they're getting "freedom gropes." All they have to do is make sure there's a Budweiser kiosk on the other side of the checkpoint. That, and make sure that insipid Lee Greenwood song is blaring over the PA on a continuous loop, and they'll be lining up for miles.
These kinds of people love to loudly proclaim for all to hear (in airports, especially, which is where you run into them most often) that "they're glad the government is doing this!" or some such nonsense.
I'm a big fan of stock car racing, but it got to the point where it was impossible to tune out all the uber patriotism and chest thumping, so I don't even go out to the local track anymore.
The first time I watched the Monaco Grand Prix on TV, I lost what little respect I had for NASCAR as a sport. To me, Formula One is real driving; NASCAR is 500 miles of inbred people turning left.
Formula One is too clinical for my tastes. I digs me some rally racing.
That's mah favorite part!
I don't know what kind of redneck you like to look down on, but the ones we have around here in Savannah are of the "I can't believe the government is doing all this shit to what was once a free country". It's the erstwhile "liberals" I work with who are the statists and now that the admin is Democratic it can do no wrong.
I thought they started believing in personal privacy again once Obama was in charge. Or is that only the Team Red think-tanks?
If they've come for NASCAR, it won't be long.
I love it, how many years of flying and the we get 911 and everybody becomes a suspect instantly. Another well thought out knee jerk reaction from our Government. Why is Obama do it because that's what Obama does, expand Government.
The TSA monster is a Bush/Cheney creation.
Obama has just kept them going.
of course - more work program for the unemployable.
It's funny how things like 911 happen and people act like no one had ever conceived of the possibility of such a thing. Then everyone has to pretend that the world has changed somehow and everything is different.
I think that all of the anti-nuclear stuff that has come up since the quake in Japan is similar. Anyone who had a brain should have already known that a huge fucking tsunami might do serious damage to a nuclear plant on the coast of one of the most geologically active places in the world and incorporated that into their position on nuclear power. But instead everyone acts like no one had ever considered the possibility before.
Before 9/11, hijacking were intended by the hijackers to be hostage situations to negotiate for something of value.
The 9/11 hijackers used the aircraft as weapons. That will never happen again.
But make even more certain, the TSA is there to make sure that those of us who might respond and take down these nutjobs are relieved of even the most rudimentary of tools that might be used to support the crew.
That's impressive considering it was tiny to begin with.
^^This^^
I've considered ginning up a really bad case of BO before getting on a plane, because I can't smell.
Go ahead TSA twats, pat me down and get real close.
If it were only the TSA gropers I had to think about, I'd go to the barn and ride my horse for a couple of hours before going to the airport. (Especially in July).
However, I do have to consider my fellow passengers.
You could always do a whore's bath in the airport restroom inside the secure area....
For some reason, I thought "BO" meant "Barack Obama" here. This caused some confusion.
I believe the US has a very bad case of Barack Obama at the present time.
My guess is that it won't clear up before January 20, 2017.
At least we are spared Gingrichorrhea
IB4 "RonPaulicillin"
But are likely to get HillaryItus in 2020.
My guess is that it won't clear up before January 20, 2017.
At least. The disease will likely mutate into a mild case of Joe Biden.
I had a mild case of Joe Biden on my ass a few years ago, it never cleared up completely, keeps coming back, but with more hair.
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TSA will be everywhere soon, and fully armed. Aslo they will deploy TSA SWAT teams, or TWAT teams as they will become known.
Step 1) create a new airport security agency to "prevent the next air disaster"
Step 2) impose martial law that allows the president to disappear anyone suspected of aiding a terroist group
Step 3) extend the airport security agency to all public thoroughfares in the US
Step 4) issue national ID cards to facilitate transportation security on all public thoroughfares
Step 5) Call Vladamir to claim prize on winning the bet on who can build the next Soviet Union first.
Step 4) issue national ID cards to facilitate transportation security on all public thoroughfares, but they can't be used for voter ID.
Nah. Once everyone is required to have ID, they won't mind anymore.
""Nah. Once everyone is required to have ID, they won't mind anymore.'"
I'm going with once the biometerics has benefits for the person, they will quickly forget/ignore it.
Twenty years ago people would say they wouldn't carry a device that tracks their whereabouts. Today it's a multi-billion dollar industry.
There are a few who won't carry the frakin things for just that reason.
Me, for example. It's not cutting off my nose to spite my face, rather it is more like not carrying around an armed bomb because I might need a paperweight.
The national ID card probably won't happen at all, per se.
You will have a national ID number which will be attached to your biometeric ID. Cards will be a thing of the past. You will use that number for everything. Buying goods, time clock at work, authentication on computer systems including using the Internet, ect.
and it will be inserted on a microchip under your skin, along with your entire school/medical/criminal history. (and a gps, of course.) One scan will tell the bots everything they need to know about you.
I can't wait.
Nope. No need for a microchip. All you need is databases and an unique identifer such as finger print or retna scan.
INNOCENT PEOPLE'S SCROTUMS HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
Balls.
Ever seen the movie, The Hindenburg, with George C. Scott?
The TSA VIPR teams seem very much like the SS and Secret police in the airport in the beginning of the movie. And that was supposed to demonstrate the dangers of fascism!
No ticket.
No ticket.
Fuck, that's an easy answer: Can you say Millions of dues paying members?
Haven't innocent people already suffered enough pointless indignities?
Not as long as there are still people who think for themselves.
It brings to mind a line from First Blood: "There are no friendly civilians." It was meant to show how socially damaged Rambo was by the Vietnam War; nowadays it is considered normal operating doctrine by our government.
That's a good point.
Oh please, don't be melodramatic, that's just a movie!
Yup, that's about what they said when I bitched about needing an ID to get on a plane. So you see, there is really nothing to get worried about.
You Libertarians are so ungrateful for the fine job TSA does to keep you safe everyday. It is easy to complain when someone else does the hard, dirty work and you are safe from criminals like these;
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012.....rit-twits/
I love Paul Fussell. Class: A Guide Through the American Status System was awesome.
Halt! Welcome to 1939 Berlin. This country is far past it's glory days, and is only sliding South on the issues of civil liberties. The irony is that countries we label an 'axis of evil' behave the same way.
1932
Aside from that, you're right.
The irony is that the age of hijacking is over. It ended on 9/11/01 when Mo' Atta and his boys broke the agreement. Now, when some assclown stands up to announce he's taking control of the craft, you can measure in microseconds the time his ass is left unkicked. Passengers are radicalized...they're not putting up with that shit anymore. The TSA is entirely redundant.
It's worth noting that the shoe bomber and the underpants bomber were defeated by their fellow passengers' desire to survive, not by anything the government did.
-jcr
What is the point of the T.S.A. if we have open borders where anyone can just waltz right in?
because the government wants to control you. Now get in line, do what you're told and pay attention.
... and yet the ignorant sheep will vote for Barack again. They'll 'Occupy' Wall Street, as if they're a threat to their future, while their president plucks away at their civil liberties, one by one. "Hey, look over there! Look at the evil rich people!" PLUCK!!!
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The entire purpose of the TSA, from day one, has been to compel ritual displays of obedience to the state from anyone seeking to exercise their right to travel. If the government honestly sought to thwart any chance of an al-queda operative taking down an airplane again, the obvious solution is to let any CCW license holder carry their weapon while flying.
-jcr
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This makes a lot of sense dude. Wow.
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First of all, Obama is not responsible for the future of the US. The president DOES NOT rule the United States. He is a only a tool. The United States of America has not had a president since John F Kennedy. Never forget that.
"The safety we enjoy owes very little to TSA's competence and a great deal to our adversary's incompetence." That's the truth in a nutshell. The role of the TSA has been all about government control from the beginning not about safety.
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Just flew overseas, there's a new TSA checkpoint before you even get to security where you have to answer questions about how you paid for your trip, where you're going, what you intend to do while there, etc. before you can even go through the scanners. I didn't realize I had to explain myself to some underpaid thug from the fucking ghetto.
Risk based security. Some People thinks that a better idea.
These folks are ripping the constitution to threads.
they are looking for drugs period WOM not
I was recently molested by the TSA
I Was going to LA VIA FLORIDA
The employee says "we are going to pat search you,we might touch you, your bottom ,do you have a problem with this?"
fug yes , "I FIND THIS HIGHLY UN-AMERICAN"
Well 5 hrs later and a call from theFBI I got a different flight
the point here is they all enjoyed themselves doing it , this guy from the TSA was enjoying himself too much
these people are animals dont fly if you like you dignity intact
These folks are ripping the constitution to threads.
they are looking for drugs period WOM not
I was recently molested by the TSA
I Was going to LA VIA FLORIDA
The employee says "we are going to pat search you,we might touch you, your bottom ,do you have a problem with this?"
fug yes , "I FIND THIS HIGHLY UN-AMERICAN"
Well 5 hrs later and a call from theFBI I got a different flight
the point here is they all enjoyed themselves doing it , this guy from the TSA was enjoying himself too much
these people are animals dont fly if you like you dignity intact
Slightly off topic, but down here in South Texas, the Department of Homeland Security has been showing up quite a bit lately in what I would consider to be local law enforcement cases: drug busts and the like. However, when they showed up in a case of a 20-something man who was accused of soliciting sexual contact with a teenage girl over the 'net, I was quite surprised. What the hell does the DHS have to do with run-of-the-mill pervert cases? Anybody else heard of anything like this in their area?
At some point I expect states will lose much power and we will have a more euro style government.
A pretty good arguement could be made that we are duplicating services and we could save a lot of money by giving authority to the federal government.