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Policy

School District Acknowledges Student's Right to Say the Governor Sucks

Jacob Sullum | 11.28.2011 1:25 PM

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Public school officials in Kansas have retracted a demand that 18-year-old Emma Sullivan apologize for a tweet disparaging Gov. Sam Brownback. According to an official statement, the Shawnee Mission School District "acknowledges a student's right to freedom of speech and expression is constitutionally protected." Sullivan, a senior at Shawnee Mission East High School, was part of a group that visited Topeka last week to learn about state government. As Brownback addressed the students, she sent a tweet that expressed her general attitude toward the governor: "Just made mean comments at gov. brownback and told him he sucked, in person #heblowsalot." Sullivan had not, in fact, made mean comments to Brownback, but the Twitter monitors on his staff were neither amused by her joke nor impressed by her incisive political commentary. They complained to the school, which told Sullivan she had to write the governor a letter of apology. She refused, and the school backed down after the tweet and its consequences received national attention.

The Supreme Court has given school officials substantial leeway to regulate students' speech while they are under school supervision, extending even to the banners they raise at off-campus events. Had Sullivan been disciplined for shouting "You suck!" at Brownback, it probably would have passed muster on the grounds that her behavior was disruptive. But since her comment caused an uproar only after the event was over, and then only because the governor's staff objected to it, the school district was wise to retreat. 

Update: Brownback apologizes to Sullivan:

My staff over-reacted to this tweet, and for that I apologize. Freedom of speech is among our most treasured freedoms. I enjoyed speaking to the more than 100 students who participated in the Youth in Government Program at the Kansas Capitol. They are our future. I also want to thank the thousands of Kansas educators who remind us daily of our liberties, as well as the values of civility and decorum. Again, I apologize for our over-reaction.

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  1. Pip   14 years ago

    I saw this on TV this morning and thought it was pretty great.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/11.....brillator/

  2. John   14 years ago

    Brownback really established himself as a tone deaf incompetent. Yeah, you are going to win a public relations war with a cute high school girl over free speech. What a fucking moron.

    1. Number 2   14 years ago

      But John...she digitally bullied him!

      1. John   14 years ago

        That little girl intimidated him. How is he supposed to do the tough job of being governor when prom queens everywhere are harassing him?

        1. Number 2   14 years ago

          And she used homophobic language, i.e., he "sucks!" I am stunned this poor girl wasn't suspended and reported to the police.

      2. 5-year-old "patient"   14 years ago

        That's what the 6-year-old doctor did to me.

      3. -   14 years ago

        she digitally bullied him

        The ironic thing is that she didn't. She lied about telling him he "sucked." Then she became famous for a day. There's a lesson here, kids.

      4. Ted S.   14 years ago

        The lesson from all this is that the biggest bully of them all is the State.

    2. Abdul   14 years ago

      I'm reporting this to Brownback's internet commenting staff. I expect an apology from John in 3, 2, 1...

  3. P Brooks   14 years ago

    the Twitter monitors on his staff

    This is why we need a massive federal giveaway to the states; to prevent the loss of vital services!

    1. Coke Zero   14 years ago

      This was the scariest part of the whole thing. I would lead a fucking revolt if we'd had twitter monitors at our high school. But I can totally see it happening.

  4. Old Mexican   14 years ago

    School District Acknowledges Student's Right to Say the Governor Sucks

    And not a moment too soon! I mean, it has been, what? 220 years????

    1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

      Everyone knows that political speech is the least protected form of expression. Right below obscenity.

      1. o3   14 years ago

        which are basically the same thing

        1. Old Mexican   14 years ago

          Moo-cow O3 is trying to be funny?

          1. yonemoto   14 years ago

            Ssh don't tell nutrasweet.

  5. P Brooks   14 years ago

    Has the Kennedy School of Government offered her a scholarship yet?

    1. Colin   14 years ago

      No, but she'll probably get a column at The Daily Beast and perhaps even a show on msnbc.

      1. Brian from Texas   14 years ago

        Just to be fair, if this girl had made similar comments about Obama and the shcool district was still trying to make her apologize, Hannity, O'Really and Beck would all be punding on her door wanting to talk to her.

  6. Auric Demonocles   14 years ago

    +1 for picture of a cute blonde girl.

    -Infinity for no alt-text

    1. Episiarch   14 years ago

      Jacob doesn't do alt-texts. Never has.

      1. rts   14 years ago

        I'm cancelling my subscription!

      2. John   14 years ago

        He would if Postrel still ran things.

        1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

          I can't take it any longer. Would someone please tell me what this "alt-txt" means in the context in which it is so often used here?

          1. John   14 years ago

            Virginia Postrel was the editor of Reason back in the 1990s. She is a brilliant writer. Wrote a great book a few years ago called The Future and its Enemies.

            It is often said Reason has never fully recovered from her leaving.

            1. Lost_In_Translation   14 years ago

              Nice John...nice

              Also, alt-txt is a scroll over pop up text box that you can add to pictures to insert witty commentary. Some writer/editors embrace it, others think kids should get off their lawn.

              1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

                So this is something that the writer of the article would do or something the commenters here can/might do? And so what does one do, scroll over every photo posted here to see if an alt-txt pops up?

                1. Kunty Kristen   14 years ago

                  Hell yes. Some of them are full o' win.

                  Sometimes I hover over images on other blogs because I've gotten so used to doing it here.

                  1. Kunty Kristen   14 years ago

                    ^^ That was in reply to Ice Nine. Always use blockquote. Always use blockquote.

                  2. Ice Nine   14 years ago

                    So this alt-txt deal is unique to H&R? (Must be; I've never heard of it in 20yrs of online forums.)

                    1. Jordan   14 years ago

                      Alt-text is a standard part of html.

                2. Lost_In_Translation   14 years ago

                  The writer of the article would do it and if you hold your mouse over the picture, text will either appear if the writer has inserted it or it won't if they haven't.

                  1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

                    Thank you.

                    1. yonemoto   14 years ago

                      I think the alt-text has been largely popularized by xkcd.

                    2. Auric Demonocles   14 years ago

                      It's big in several webcomics. Some xkcd's don't even have a punchline without the alt-text.

                  2. Ted S.   14 years ago

                    Technically the pop-up is in the title attribute. The text in the alt attribute can be different, and will usually show up if you right-click on an image and select an option along the lines of "Image properties"

          2. Kant feel Pietzsche   14 years ago

            Mouse over accompanying photos. Bonus snarkage text contained there.

      3. Auric Demonocles   14 years ago

        Why is sucking in the past an excuse for sucking in the present?

    2. MP   14 years ago

      Looking at that picture on a flight to Boston will get you arrested.

      1. Almanian   14 years ago

        But I was just hiking the Adirondack Trail! Really!

        1. JEP   14 years ago

          Steve Smith? Bueller? Bueller?

  7. Pip   14 years ago

    If you Google Image her name, you will see that she's actually turning into a porker.

    1. Poet Laureate sloopyinca   14 years ago

      It looks like somebody stuck an air hose in her, um...

      ...well, somewhere.

    2. -   14 years ago

      Don't they always?

    3. John   14 years ago

      I don't think so. She could be in better shape. But she is still very cute. She could go either way. If she gets religion and starts exercising, she could be very attractive well into her life. If she doesn't, there is a fat girl in there dying to get out.

      1. Citizen Nothing   14 years ago

        Your juvenile obsession with the girl's looks has just destroyed any chance that anyone will ever take libertarianism seriously.
        Way to go, John.

        1. John   14 years ago

          A man's has got to have his priorities.

        2. The Other God   14 years ago

          just destroyed any chance that anyone will ever take libertarianism seriously

          That chance was lost years ago.

          1. Citizen Nothing   14 years ago

            Your juvenile, humorless idiocy has just destroyed any chance that anyone will take theology seriously. Way to go, T.O. God!

            1. The Other God   14 years ago

              Happy to help.

        3. Kunty Kristen   14 years ago

          destroyed any chance that anyone will ever take libertarianism seriously.

          Is this meme officially part of the reason drink game yet? If not, if most definitely should be.

          (I seem to be obsesssed with the reason drinking game today. That means I should have a beer after work.)

      2. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

        The world according to John, the well-know chubby chaser... I keed, I keed.

        1. John   14 years ago

          It is the chubby chasers versus the closet homo pedophiles. That is the real split on here amongst the commentators. The rest is just window dressing.

          1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

            closet homo pedophiles

            You've nailed it! We know of course that they actually aren't - well most of them - but what an excellent description of the phenomenon.

    4. AlmightyJB   14 years ago

      a porker? really? I suppose you prefer your women to look like 14 year old boys. Women are supposed to have some curves. I think she's very pretty. I'd do that in a heartbeat. What is it with all women hating on this site?

      1. chris   14 years ago

        What's with the chubby chasers and their need to put the rest of us who don't share their perverted fetish?

        1. chris   14 years ago

          rest of down that is

          1. AlmightyJB   14 years ago

            I'm not putting you down for prefering women with no bodies. I'm putting you down for insulting women who have them. That girl is not fat.

            1. chris   14 years ago

              I didn't make any comment about the lass. I'm saying the standard knee jerk 'you prefer your women to look like 14 year old boys' has gotten pretty goddamn old when describing those of us who are normal, as in finding belly fat on a woman to be absolutely disgusting.

              1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

                She's not fat indeed. She's wearing a bulky sweatshirt - albeit an Arkansas Hogs sweatshirt.

                1. Restoras   14 years ago

                  Way back in the day, the bulky sweathsirts were flying out of the college bookstore about 6 mos. after matriculation. Just sayin'.

              2. AlmightyJB   14 years ago

                So calling the young girl a porker is not an insult? That was the original comment and that is what I was responding to. If you don't want want to keep hearing the 14 year old boy comment, quit hatin' on women.

                1. chris   14 years ago

                  Quit hating on normal guys porker fetishist.

        2. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

          mommy complex?

          1. chris   14 years ago

            Their middle aged wives bodies going to hell complex.

    5. Old Mexican   14 years ago

      Re: Pip,

      If you Google Image her name, you will see that she's actually turning into a porker.

      What I find disturbing is the fact that you actually went and googled her image... you perv.

      1. John   14 years ago

        After all the time you have been posting on this board you are surprised by this?

        1. Old Mexican   14 years ago

          Re: John,

          After all the time you have been posting on this board you are surprised by this?

          I'm just doing a Claude Rains.

      2. AlmightyJB   14 years ago

        Evidently he should have googled Maria "Crypt Keeper" Shriver instead.

        1. Almanian   14 years ago

          You mean Skeletor?

        2. Jon Schaffer`s Right Hand   14 years ago

          You mean Skelator?

  8. Colin   14 years ago

    I would've thought sucking would be against Brownback's religion.

  9. Poet Laureate sloopyinca   14 years ago

    Are those twitter monitors paid with tax dollars?

    If so, an investigative journalist could really make a name for him/herself.

  10. Citizen Nothing   14 years ago

    The juvenile antics of this girl have just ensured Brownback's reelection.
    Way to go, Emma.

  11. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

    My mama always taught me to stay away from Kansas and other KKK strongholds! The good men at the CPUSA rally told me it was true, too! Bet that girl's a Nazi!

  12. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

    Sullivan had not, in fact, made mean comments to Brownback...

    If she lied in this tweet, it calls into question her entire review of The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn: Part I, and the truthfulness of her assertion that Bella "like totally belongs with Edward like forever".

    Brownback, you might want to hire a new image consultant for your staff.

    1. Episiarch   14 years ago

      Bella does totally belong with Edward forever! How dare you question that!

      1. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

        Am I the only one that thinks Kristen Stewart blows in pretty much everything she stars in?

        1. Jon Schaffer`s Right Hand   14 years ago

          Adventureland wasn't that bad. I think "girl with emotional problems in unhealthy sexual relationship with Ryan Reynold's abs" may be the only character KStew can portray convincingly.

        2. Anonymous Coward   14 years ago

          Snow White and the Huntsman actually looks like it has promise, provided Stewart is allowed to play something other than a shallow, narcissistic, necrophiliac.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

        Her Twitter review has been called into question, Team Edward.

        Anyway, I'm Team That Third Guy, The Football Player or Whatever. We're a small but devoted group of contrarians who, despite maybe not having seen all the sequels or read any of the books, believe that there's always an unpopular and possibly implausible other choice to get behind.

        1. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

          It's cool to be different, ain't it, brotha?

        2. Kunty Kristen   14 years ago

          I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

        3. AnonCowHerd   14 years ago

          Go Team Buffy!

  13. Abdul   14 years ago

    I keep seeing that she was "ordered" to apologize, but not seeing where she was threatened with a sanction. Is it possible that her principal "strongly suggested" that she apologize, and journalists needed a tempest in a teapot for the slow news week?

    1. Brandon   14 years ago

      Slow news week? It's CYBER WEEK, or something! Where the internet destroys main street without paying any taxes!!!!!

    2. Lost_In_Translation   14 years ago

      you know what the alternative was?

      to not say a goddamn thing and ignore gov. brownbacks whiny minions.

  14. pmp   14 years ago

    18 years old, huh?

    1. Old Mexican   14 years ago

      Right there on the threshold.

      1. AlmightyJB   14 years ago

        That's legal in every state

        1. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

          except for 'the state' known as 'the dad' with 'the shotgun'

          1. chris   14 years ago

            I got somethin' for his punkass!

          2. R C Pale Aborigine   14 years ago

            Ossifer, can I gambol with your daughter?

  15. John   14 years ago

    http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com.....-nuke.html

    Huge explosion heard at Iranian nuke facility. As I have said before, everyone who is talking about Iranian nukes is talking out of their ass. Who knows what we are actually doing.

    1. AlmightyJB   14 years ago

      We better hurry up and go blow them up before they blow themselves up first.

    2. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

      If those theocratic shitheads decide to use it, I hope it's in some petty dispute with, say, Saudi Arabia. They can blow the living shit out of each other and save us all the headache.

      1. John   14 years ago

        An prolonged and bloody Iran versus Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States would be almost as good as Hitler versus Stalin.

        1. MP   14 years ago

          But what about the price of gas?!?

          1. Lost_In_Translation   14 years ago

            what about it? It'll still be in te ground. We'll just have to drill through the glass to get to it.

            1. T   14 years ago

              Fuck that. Extended reach horizontal drilling, baby. No need to be in the blast radius at all.

    3. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

      It's explosions all the way down.

      1. John   14 years ago

        It is like some real life version of angry birds.

      2. Michael Bay   14 years ago

        YES!!

        Um, what are we talking about?

    4. Bob Schaffer   14 years ago

      Congressman Paul, surely you don't mean to seriously suggest our government plans to bomb Iran?

      1. AlmightyJB   14 years ago

        It's almost like these newscasters don't ever watch the news.

    5. o3   14 years ago

      last week's news john

      1. John   14 years ago

        This is a different explosion. This happened today. There was one last week as well.

  16. P Brooks   14 years ago

    chubby chasers versus the closet homo pedophiles.

    I've a few Quatloos burning a hole in my pocket. What's the point spread?

    1. AlmightyJB   14 years ago

      Who's getting layed the least? Men who love women, men who don't, or men who use arcane Star Trek references?

      1. John   14 years ago

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/uss.....alibu.html

        Leann has grown up quite nicely. Check out the porn stache on the husband though.

        1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

          What a porker!

        2. T   14 years ago

          Freddy Mercury called and wants his moustache back.

          1. John   14 years ago

            Starlettes love douchebag husbands. Check out the Natalie Portman article in today's Mail. Her husband just drips douchebag, complete with receding hair line, hipster ironic aviators and perfectly trimmed stubble.

            1. Restoras   14 years ago

              Does he walk around with an undeserved sense of accomplishment?

            2. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

              Katy Perry?

              1. John   14 years ago

                Katy gets a pass. I am not sure she is sentient enough to even know she is married much less whom she is married to.

            3. CharlesWT   14 years ago

              There's a web site for everything...

      2. chris   14 years ago

        Who's getting layed the least? Men who love women, men who don't, or men who use arcane Star Trek references?

        Ah, the desperate sounds of the beta male cuckold! Almost as delicious as pheasant.

      3. chris   14 years ago

        Also, I hope you are not under the delusion women actually like nice guys. They don't. They find them creepy. That's really where your white knight in shining armor protecting the ladies attitude smacks up against reality.

  17. Yarsh   14 years ago

    the kid makes a (VERY witty) comment on twitter.
    the governor's office overreacts.
    her principal overreacts.
    the governor catches wind of this, says :it's no big deal, relax everyone".
    his office backs down.
    the principal backs down.

    aaaaaaaaand suddenly this is a story of a young civil rights leader fighting for her freedom of speech against a big bad governor...

    1. Almanian   14 years ago

      They bitched about the Twitters, and I did nothing because I didn't Tweet.

      Then they came after the Facebookerists, but I said nothing because I didn't...book. Faces.

      Then they came for MySpace, but didn't bother because of the noise.

      Then they came for Friendster, but no one was there.

      And THEN they came for me!

      I think we've all learned something here, Yarsh.

  18. erkinthefarnorth   14 years ago

    And another bureaucrat leans about the "Streisand effect."

  19. Lost_In_Translation   14 years ago

    Those responsible for this kerfluffle have been sacked..or something like that.

    1. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

      I have absolutely no idea about the origins of this phrase, but I'll just BE ONE OF THE DUDES and say you SugarFree'd that link. I'm assuming it refers to a tendency to screw up linking by a certain SugarFree, AMIRITE??

      1. Jon Schaffer`s Right Hand   14 years ago

        Have you not seen Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail?

      2. R   14 years ago

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SII-jhEd-a0

        And now you know.

    2. Lost_In_Translation   14 years ago

      Those responsible for the link of the sacking would like it to be known they have been sacked.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   14 years ago

        "As word of the governor's office reaction spread, Sullivan went from 61 Twitter followers before the incident to more than 9,000 Monday ? more than three times the number that follow Brownback's official Twitter account."

        It's Brownback's fault for being so ugly. If he'd been cuter, he'd have had like 15,000 followers.

  20. Bob   14 years ago

    Interesting fact: Shawnee Mission East is the alma mater of Ramesh Ponnuru at National Review and Thomas "What's the Matter with Kansas" Frank.

  21. Paul   14 years ago

    Sullivan had not, in fact, made mean comments to Brownback, but the Twitter monitors on his staff were neither amused by her joke nor impressed by her incisive political commentary

    ?!!

    The republic is doomed.

  22. R C Dean   14 years ago

    Brownback gets some props for actually apologizing, even if the apology was loaded with saccharine nostrums.

    Still, he employs what sounds like a number of Tweet Police? Oy.

    1. Eduard van Haalen   14 years ago

      The tweet police are all inside of my head
      Because they keep getting mentioned in this thread

      You're welcome for my reminding you of that tune.

    2. Ted S.   14 years ago

      It's more of an apology than Ndamokung Suh's "apology".

  23. junior   14 years ago

    The girls parents should apologize for raising a twit

    1. Bingo   14 years ago

      Hah! Wow, never heard that one before! Too funny! Twitter, twit, I get it! Damn, you are one hilarious fellow.

  24. Eric Atkinson   14 years ago

    I bet she wants to be a Clinton intern.

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