A History Lesson from Clarence Thomas
Justice Clarence Thomas has not asked a question during Supreme Court oral arguments in over five years. At The Huffington Post, Mike Sacks looks at one of the cases where Thomas did have something to say from the bench, Virginia v. Black (2002), which considered the constitutionality of Virginia's ban on cross burning. As Sacks observes, while the rest of the justices were focused on the Court's First Amendment precedents, Thomas became interested in whether or not the act of cross burning should qualify as an illegal threat of violence:
Supreme Court justices don't ask questions only to learn from the advocates before them. Often, a justice will use the advocate as a conduit to teach the rest of the Court what that justice already knows. By asking [Deputy U.S. Solicitor General Michael] Dreeben if he was "understating the effects of the burning cross," Thomas was trying to amplify Dreeben's unheeded argument that the "signal of violence" conveyed by a burning cross is "like a sword of Damocles hanging over the person whose head has been threatened."
"Threatened," for Thomas, was too light of a term. He reminded his colleagues, through Dreeben, that the cross-burning ban, passed in 1952, was meant to address "almost 100 years of lynching and activity in the South" by the KKK and other hate groups that even the then-still-segregated state of Virginia found repugnant.
"This was a reign of terror," Thomas told Dreeben, "and the cross was a symbol of that reign of terror."
Sacks calls Virginia v. Black "surely the most powerful" of the cases "in which Justice Thomas made his voice heard," and it's hard to disagree with that description. But the case is also notable for the light it shines on Thomas' deep interest in America's ugly history of racism and racial violence, an aspect of his jurisprudence that is not always given its due.
For example, as I noted in August, liberal legal writer Jeffrey Toobin asserted in a recent New Yorker story that "Thomas finds a racial angle on a broad array of issues, including those which appear to be scarcely related to traditional civil rights, like campaign finance or gun control." Had Toobin bothered to open a history book before writing that unfortunate sentence, he could have learned that the same cross-burning terrorists that Thomas denounced in Virginia v. Black also benefitted from racist Southern gun laws that kept firearms out of the hands of African Americans—which is one of the reasons why Thomas stressed African American history in his McDonald v. Chicago concurrence applying the Second Amendment to the states.
Justice Thomas may keep quiet during oral arguments, but that doesn't mean he has nothing to say.
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"Thomas finds a racial angle on a broad array of issues, including those which appear to be scarcely related to traditional civil rights, like campaign finance or gun control."
OK, Toobin, here's your campaign finance and gun control. From Justice Roger Taney's decision of 1857, denying that the descendants of black slaves can ever be citizens.
Why not? Because recognizing black people as citizens "would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport, and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished; and it would give them the *full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak;* to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and *carry arms wherever they went.* And all of this would be done in the face of the subject race of the same color, both free and slaves, and inevitably producing discontent and insubordination among them, and endangering the peace and safety of the State."
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/.....&invol=393
This "problem" was recognized as long ago as 1857 - black citizenship means they have the right to discuss political issues and bear arms.
This "problem" was recognized as long ago as 1857 - black citizenship means they have the right to discuss political issues and bear arms.
And as long as they don't discuss these political issues within 60 days of an election, we're good.
Often, a justice will use the advocate as a conduit to teach the rest of the Court what that justice already knows.
"Would counsel agree that, in this case, had the defendant, say, removed a piece of cake from the refrigerator in a justices' common break room - a slice that was clearly marked as belonging to a certain other jurist who was saving it for later - the defendant would be guilty of theft?"
I lol'd at this. And I never type 'lol'.
That should read almost never.
How the mighty have fallen.
I ROFLcoptered. And I don't even have a pilot's license.
Some of those that ban firearms, are the same that burnt crosses.
And now you do what they told you.
Now you're under control.
Killing in the name of!
Not sure what's unfortunate about that sentence. If you readd the piece it's not meant as an insult, more a counter to the critics of Thomas who call him a race traitor and Uncle Tom. I thought that New Yorker piece was pretty awesome, actually, and treated Justice Thomas very fairly.
He's not saying it's an insult directed towards Thomas, he's saying that it is unfortunate that the writer believes that campaign finance and gun control aren't related to civil rights, which isn't true, especially with regards to gun control.
Clarence Thomas: A truly reat American.
"Justice Thomas may keep quiet during oral arguments, but that doesn't mean he has nothing to say"
He has given an interview referencing his ataraxiac style. IIRC, he felt it was rooted in the fact he was a black man in a white man's game
The only question Clarabell asks: how should I vote, Justice Scalia?
I bet Breyer and Ginsburg line up on the same side more then Scalia and Thomas do.
Racist!
Justice Thomas has parted company from Justice Scalia, though its admittedly rare. And Thomas likely had the correct view when he did....
Even when Thomas votes on the same side as Scalia, he often does so for different reasons and frequently writes separate opinions to point them out.
But simpleminded people like nancysid would prefer to stick to their simplistic narrowminded worldview than actually inform themselves about what people actually believe.
Justice Thomas may keep quiet during oral arguments
As he himself said, you have thousands of pages of briefs, court transcripts, lower court opinions, etc. that precede the oral arguments. If you cannot find an answer to your question in all that material, the rest are simply not preparing effectively (this is certainly true of Ginsburg).