Homeschoolers Love the GOP (Except That Moderate Mormon)
In one of those "hey, homeschooling is a thing now!" articles, but with topical politics, Reuters suggests "Homeschoolers emerge as Republican foot soldiers" and that they could make a difference in the outcome of the February Iowa Caucus -- if they can make up their minds which GOPer to support.
Though Iowa was very late in legalizing homeschooling (1991), now 6 percent of students -- double the national average -- undoubtedly spend several days each month telling clerks and cops no, we aren't skipping.
Says Reuters:
After decades on the margins of political life, homeschoolers have become some of the most valued Republican foot soldiers in Iowa, where a few thousand activists can wield an outsize influence in the first nominating contest in the 2012 presidential election.
Four years ago, homeschoolers helped push Mike Huckabee to a surprise victory in the Iowa caucuses over Mitt Romney's better-funded, better organized campaign.
This time around, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum proudly point out that they homeschooled their own children, while Ron Paul touts himself as a "homeschooling champion" on his campaign Web site. Rick Perry proclaimed an official "homeschool week" as governor of Texas, and Herman Cain joined other candidates at a homeschool conference earlier this year.
Though they usually lean towards the less libertarian, more socially conservative GOP candidates, they seem to be opposed to the "lesser of two evils" method of Democracy. Which discounts former Mass. Governor Mitt Romney for some:
"Why would I want to vote for somebody who might be the antithesis of everything I believe as a Christian, just because he's not as bad as the other guy?" [homeschool mom Barb] Heki said. "That doesn't make any sense."
So not so less keen on the Mormon flip-flopper, even if he gets the nomination and even though he has apparently expressed support of homeschooling and school choice. Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson's overtly socially liberal stance on drugs, abortion, and the border would probably prevent him from being a consideration to most of these folks as well.
The rest here. The Washington Post in 2007 on the Mike Huckabee homeschooler bump. Bonus, in 2002 Gallup seemed weirdly upset about people's responses to why they homeschooled.
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Is it the corollary that products of the public school system are troopers for the left?
Good point, Fist.
Public education is child abuse!
Libertarian homeschoolers are busy getting high, playing xbox. When they aren't doing child labor for their mean old monocle-wearing pop.
Oh this is about the parents not the kids...derp.
Hey, don't knock child labor. My mom had me marking up manuscript for the compiler when I was 8. That was back in the days when a compiler was a human being who arranged the text on printing machines.
TeX.
La Tex.
::cue music and a blond::
From the Gallup report:
"Perhaps more alarming are the reasons that parents gave for homeschooling in the Department of Education 1999 study. The top three responses were "Can give child better education at home," "Religious reasons," and "Poor learning environment at school." While public schools can do little about the second response, the other two are directly tied to education quality. If an increasing number of parents feel so disengaged from and distrustful of public school that they prefer to take on the mammoth task of educating their children, many districts may need to work harder to improve communication with parents and give them more input in the education process."
If only there were a way for parents to have some kind of input into their kids' education! Well, I can't think of anything...
Join a teachers union?
districts may need to work harder to improve communication with parents and give them more input in the education process.
Because the way to ensure a quality education is more parent communication and more parent input into the process! Notice any concept of, say, teaching kids is mysteriously absent from this formulation.
I think he was trying to hint at the idea of school choice/vouchers. So parents could have some say in the sort of education their kids get.
I like how the possibility that schools are actually as shitty as parents think isn't even considered.
give them more input in the education process.
Translated from beauracratese:
More committee meetings.
I thought the headline was refering to Huntsman, not Romney.
Still, identifying Romney as "the antithesis of everything I believe as a Christian" is pretty harsh.
It's sounds like a joke, but I seriously completely forgot about Huntsman while writing this blog.
Err.
It's sounds
Insert obligatory "homeschooling worked for Lucy" joke.
God damn it! Every time I blog about homeschooling I make more typos than usual.
Don't blame my parents. Blame Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing.
FFS, blame a man
FFS?
For fuck sake
-libertarians already blame women for everything including premature ejaculation 😉
Well, maybe the ladies need to stop being Democrats. And the libertarians need to stop being so...you know.
And I'm sorry, the typing program was supposed to be a lady. And I like my dad. He used to yell at me about commas, not nonsensical apostrophes. That was my bad.
"And the libertarians need to stop being so...you know."
Good luck with that. We ooze 'you know' out of every pore.
Nobody ever talks about post-mature ejaculation...
Congratulations, you now have a law named after you.
Yes, Tulpa
The law of?
Most of us have completly forgotten about Huntsman.
Well, hopefully Romney won't be too butthurt about some mouth-breathing religious nut opinion. Not that it matters to me either way.
As one on the inside, my short comment is:
- Yeah, most of 'em are generally GOP-ish. One dominant reason is that they (mistakenly) assume the GOP is pro-life. The GOP knows this and is happy for the mistaken impression to persist.
- There is a VERY significant libertarian minority in the homeschool world. And it's getting bigger all the time.
The public schools are for those people who can't find a way to escape them.
Either you are wealthy enough for private school (which is surprisingly affordable anyway), or you are lucky enough to have access to a decent charter school (although the public involvement is still not good). Or you homeschool if you are lucky enough to be able to live on one income.
Everyone else is screwed.
What if you just bring the little bastard to your jerb and make him study up and do exercises while you work? Teaching doesn't really take more than 5 minutes per hour, and then maybe around an hour later in the day to verify their work. Maybe 10 minutes here and there to wail on them for being a fuck up.
Re: Zuo,
The above tells me that a) you don't have kids and b) your partner doesn't want to have yours.
Well, that was more or less how my mom homeschooled me (minus the abuse and calling me a fuck up).
Seriously, I went to work with my mom most of my childhood, and she gave me my assignments and I worked. I might have seen her twice more during the day, before we left.
And then I got a 1530 on the SAT and got enough scholarships from various places to go to Furman for ~$2,000 a year. So, um, yeah.. it can work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh6f5Go0
Obligatory Tim Hawkins (homeschooling comedian) video called "The Government Can". Do yourself a favor and watch it (and his others). Especially "Things You Don't Say to Your Wife".
I've seen his "Homeschool Family" video and don't really like it, as it affirms the left's accusation that homeschooling parents shouldn't be teaching biology.
Yeah, well, I mostly meant the others. Give them a shot.
Especially "Things You Don't Say to Your Wife".
For some reason, reading this makes me think of the Geico commercial with Abe Lincoln
Homeschoolers are all evil. Just like everyone who makes more than 200K a year.
Don't forget the Jews and virgins.
So libertarian homeschool parents would teach their kids an objective history of the field of economics?
They probably won't brainwash their kids to believe in your religion, if that's what you're asking.
When I was in public school I was taught that the Depression was caused by Herbert Hoover's laissez-faire economic policies.
Which despite being the accepted version of history should obviously be given the "fair and balanced" treatment.
Even worse; it's still taught as absolute fact that it was the New Deal that got us OUT of the depression.
Why did your teachers spew that at you, Tulpa? Did they hate kids at that particular school?
Here's a question I shouldn't ask -- considering our wildly diverting views on economics, how do you know which of us has the "objective history"?
(Points for saying more than "lol creationism" or something. I think.)
Researchers not on any corporate puppet string would be a good start.
Libertarian economics wouldn't exist without corporate subsidy.
We know how to approach facts in this century. By examining data and evidence.
...Alright then.
I'll let the other commenters handle this if they feel like it.
Lucy, Tony is a sockpuppet that someone utilizes to get people riled up. It's not a real person, so you might not want to waste your time responding to it.
You know, I knew he was at least sometimes, but I gave in to temptation.
Never again, never again.
How does liberal economics get researched without subsidies?
Or are we back to "corporate subsidies = always evil/government subsidies = always benevolent"?
But sockpuppet Tony has a great point. What do corporations know about economics? Only people who are paid with money forcibly removed from others could possibly understand how a market economy works.
"Libertarian economics wouldn't exist without corporate subsidy.
We know how to approach facts in this century. By examining data and evidence."
I love how you contradict yourself IMMEDIATELY.
The only view Tony has (objective or otherwise) is his anus. He probably is in his basement now masturbating to the fact that he got one of the actual Reason staff to respond to him.
IE, ignore him.
"So libertarian homeschool parents would teach their kids an objective history of the field of economics?"
And thus Tony exposes the real reason behind liberal opposition to home schooling.
Re: Stoopid in America,
Thus spake the direct result of the Amerikan Pulbic Skool Seistem that taught him to retionily tink.
The real question, however, is why would ANYTHING you believe as a Christian have ANY bearing WHATSOEVER on the way you vote?
I don't care what one believes, only what one is willing to use the force of government with which to coerce me.
I went through the current science and math curricula for New Jersey and New York this year. It looks like Iowa is going to be the future center for innovation, followed by Texas, Florida, and Virginia.
Christian fundamentalists ruin everything.
Yeah, homeschooling is like the Tea Party, nice idea completely screwed up and intertwined w/ religious D-bags.
You just described America.
"Yeah, homeschooling is like the Tea Party, nice idea completely screwed up and intertwined w/ religious D-bags." I find this statment very quotable.
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That Christian lady who wouldn't vote for Romney because of his religion, and he's "not as bad as the other guy..." sighhh..... Personally, I'm rooting for Herman Cain, baby!!! Go Cain!!! (She won't vote for him because Cain was an evil man in the Bible, and ...you know..... it doesn't make any sense, but to her it does. Yes, Christian fundamentalism does ruin everything....especially since they directly oppose almost EVERYTHING the Libertarians stand for - government out of the bedroom, easing of drug laws, porn, prostitution, ....freedom.... If Romney is the nominee, he has my vote. If Bachmann is the nominee, or Paul, or Gingrich, or Cain, or anyone, they have my vote.
Here is my new message for all who stay home on election day 2012, because you have some trivial damn difference with the Republican candidate:
IF OBAMA WINS A SECOND TERM, YOU DESERVE EVERY DAMN THING YOU GET!
You deserve an even worse job market after the health care mandates really kick in, taxes go up, and business who were waiting for Obama to leave office throw their hnads up in crushing defeat and forever close up shop. You deserve government run healthcare with higher rates, longer waits, and the choices the government tells you you can make. If you unemployment finally expires...TOUGH! Don't worry, because when Obama successfully raises taxes, since a relection will tell him Go For It!, the businesses that remain will happily pass those on to you in higher prices and even more inflation...they have to, or go out of business. And after all this, ...ha! don't even THINK about ever getting a presidential speech that makes you proud of America, or freedom, again. And don't ever expect any other nation to look up to us anytime soon.
So go right ahead and stick to your utterly trivial requirements of your "perfect" candidate. You can have fun wallowing in a DECADE of misery and depression for your ....lack ...of efforts.
Whoa ho! Slow down there skippy.
Do something productive on election day, your vote is statistically insignificant. Or do something unproductive, tell everybody you're going to vote and go sit in a seedy bar instead. That's how I perform my civic duty.
"[T]ell everybody you're going to vote and go sit in a seedy bar instead." I like this.
Praise Jesus!
Smash the State!
Skepticism about religion and skepticism about the state go together like peanut butter and chocolate.
NEVER question the state!
Skepticism about religion and skepticism about the state go together like ice cream and ketchup,
Not everyone who denies God becomes a fully rational and intelligent person. I know it happened to you guys - who are fully rational in every respect - but some people react differently. Without a God to worship, there are some who (for all practical purposes) worship the state.
Incidentally, Mabus has almost persuaded me not to vote, even though I find the ritual comforting. But I also like the thought that Obama will be re-elected simply because I didn't vote for the Republican. That would give me such a feeling of power, and the disadvantages of an Obama presidency would be compensated by the prospect of Mabus blowing another gasket and increasing the proportion of his ALL CAP posts.
"Without a God to worship, there are some who (for all practical purposes) worship the state." That doesn't necessarily make religion a good idea.
just a test!
My wife is a congenital Democrat, but working for Houston ISD convinced her that when we have kids homeschooling might be the best choice for some part of their education.
That's how self-evidently terrible public schools are.
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