Cory Maye's Judgment Day
Former Reasoner Radley Balko, fittingly, was the only reporter in the courtroom last week when former death row inmate Cory Maye was sentenced to time served for manslaughter, thus ending his decade-long legal nightmare that began when cops busted down his door after midnight in a botched drug raid that resulted in Maye shooting and killing a cop. Balko has a long piece up at the Huffington Post talking about Maye's bittersweet day of freedom. Excerpt:
Reading slowly and nervously from the paper, Maye says he's "deeply sorry" for [Ron] Jones' death. He apologizes for the pain he has caused the Jones family. He says he never had any intention of hurting anyone, and that he has "shed many tears, and said many prayers for Mr. Ron and the Jones family." He concludes, "I hope we can forgive and all move forward and begin to heal." [Judge Prentiss] Harrell then sentences Maye to 10 years, with credit for the time he has already served.
In the gallery, two mothers begin to weep. [District Attorney Hal] Kittrell casts a long, sorrowed look at Jones' parents. Jones' mother shaking her head from side to side. Dorothy Maye bows her head. Cory Maye's aunt strokes her back. Maye is ushered through the gallery to the witness room. The court moves on to the next case. […]
A few moments later, I return to the witness room, expecting Maye to be jubilant with thoughts of his pending freedom. He isn't. He's holding kleenex, and he's wiping tears from his eyes. The ever-present grin is gone. I ask what's on his mind. He starts to answer, but he can't. [Maye's attorney Bob] Evans, Maye, [attorney Ben] Vernia and I sit for a few moments in silence.
"I don't think I've ever seen you without a smile for this long," Evans says. "You're pensive, aren't you?"
Maye shakes his head in the affirmative.
"You're thinking about Ron, aren't you? About the Jones family?"
Maye nods, and drops his head into his hands.
Whole thing here. Reason's voluminous Cory Maye archive here.
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So, who is going to take one for the team and read the comments over at Huffpo? I would do it, but I have children and so I can't risk head explosion.
Not me, I don't have a spare monitor.
They're not meant to be read. Just know that they are there and move on.
I only read the first page, but they seem pretty reasonable to me.
I would love to, but I have work to do, and the temptation to fuck with the retards over there will be too strong. Man, I wish I had an hour or two to turn that place into a madhouse.
They are not as bad as I thought they would be. There are a couple of real gems. This one is great.
what i don't get is why black people still try to live in places like mississipp?i. it makes about as much sense as a japethic jew ( converted northern russian khazar masqueradi?ng as a hebrew israelite) volunteeri?ng to live in krackow or berlin when the nazis were in power.
Yeah because police in enlightened blue states like New York or California would never shoot down a black man in his home.
why black people still try to live in places like mississipp?i.
The irony is there has been a statistically significant migration of black poeple from western and eastern regions to the south over the past 10 or so years.
The reason being that the cost of living is cheaper and there are actually jobs to be gotten in the south. So much for left wing coastal inclusive economic policies.
I do believe that Kathy wrote a piece about how southern cities were more integrated then east coast cities not to long ago.
He said, "take one for the team," not "take it on the chin."
So, who is going to take one for the team and read the comments over at Huffpo? I would do it, but I have children and so I can't risk head explosion.
I do believe sports metaphors and calls for "teamwork" are lost on libertarian audiences.
Sports metaphors? Did you see the Buck Foston thread?!?!
Keep in mind this is coming from someone who uses U2 "metaphors" for screen names.
I'm more a fan of food metaphors.
Here here!
Whose the baker who will make us some moonbat pie?
We will pay you for it with our attentions and interest.
Here's a gem:
Derp.
Yeah we still have the problem of black market dealers if we decriminalize drugs. Wait, what?
Reading such comments can lead to madness, heller. Do you have your Lovecraftian protection wards in place?
I always scratch my head at this argument. The best course I think is to ask them when the last time Jack Daniel's employees shot up Jim Beam's distillery.
There is a more charitable interpretation of the second comment. Decriminalization,a s used in contemporary political discourse, often means no criminal penalties for possession, but leaves the black market intact. The commenter might be arguing for full decriminalization/legalization rather than half-assed decrim for users.
There appear to be brief flashes of intelligent life on Planet HuffPo...then you get something like this:
BVictor1
Chicago, My kind of town...
301 Fans
2 hours ago (11:52 AM)
I would say that he should sue the State of Mississipp?i for everything that it has, but seeing as it's Mississipp?i, and they're a welfare state, they'd have to borrow from everyone else to pay for their bigotry and ineptness.
Because Chicago would never do anything so tawdry as take federal money for local interests or start a week-long riot over black people using a beach.
A wild Cop-Sucker Appears!:
kctlaw
40 Fans
2 hours ago (12:41 PM)
Fortunatel?y, he will not be put to death, he will be able to see his family, enjoy seeing his daughter grow up and his family will finally have him home. Unfortunat?ely, Ron James will not be coming home. His children and family will never see him again. Accidents do happen but you still need to be held accountabl?e for any wrong doings that may have transpired as a result from your accident.
" Accidents do happen but you still need to be held accountabl?e for any wrong doings that may have transpired as a result from your accident."
I agree completely and eagerly await Maye's pardon and compensation for being imprisoned due to cirmcumstances arising from a police mistake.
I'm confused. It's like they were trying to make two points at once and failed miserably on both accounts.
That is one confused comment. Do people know what irony even is?
"It's like goldy or bronzey, only made of iron."
Excellent reference
Heller--what problem do you have with the statement you quoted? I agree with it. There ARE a lot of people who support the 2ndA but genuflect to cops and think they can do no wrong. "Get your government hands off my medicare" and all that.
Most of them seem to be in support of Cory, at least the first page was.
Good luck, Cory Maye. Enjoy your freedom.
Take good care of the freedom they'll never know.
There comment system is broke for me, I can only look at first page. Huge loss.
Despite a little bit of obvious SWPL commie taint all over most comments, none have figured out how to blame this all on us evil libertarians yet.
If he hadn't had a gun.....!!11!!1!eleven!
Oh yes they have. See my post at 1:16pm
What's ironic is those same jurors that convicted Maye and recommende?d the death sentence are probably avid supporters of gun rights, shoot first ask questions later, and less government?. You mix in an ineffectiv?e defense with a belief that law enforcemen?t can do no wrong, a travesty of justice results. Now this poor man can't live at home for fear of reprisals. Not much has changed, ah Mississipp?i?
That came off like crude sectionalism moreso that anti-libertarianism, and the feeling is mutual there, so I can't complain too much about it. And I have no problem with anyone pointing out inconstistencey between being pro-2nd amendment and rabidly pro-police and pro-drug war, lots of good ole boys need to figure that shit out.
I would love to give this guy a big ol' hug. I mean Cory Maye, but I probably wouldn't mind hugging Balko either.
I bet he's had hugs. Know what he probably hasn't had in 10 years? Yep, I say pitch in to send him to vegas and get himself a whore.
Balko can rent his own whores.
Also, it seems unfair to assume Balko hasn't gotten laid in ten years.
I don't know, Balko does look like a younger version of the guy from Cathouse.
He had a very pretty girlfriend until shortly before he moved to Nashville. I think he can do OK for himself.
Chix dig crusaders for justice! He's doing fine methinx
Tsk tsk....whores are illegal in Vegas. Sheesh! You want him in jail again?!? He's gotta go to Pahrump for his whores.
unless someone wants to throw him some for free...
Come now. We're all traders here at H&R - we only exchange value for value.
Uh, he's married, so I'm thinking the whole Vegas-hooker thing might not be the best idea in the world. Maybe send him and his wife on a vacation to someplace where they can "catch up".
I meant Cory, not Balko.
OT - TSA-Possible airline threat from implanted bomb
This is how they make everybody go through the nudie scanners. With a phony threat.
but how do those nudie scanners detect anything implanted inside of the body? They can't, but they'll make the stupid statists "feel" safer while not making them any safer meanwhile irritating the rest of us who love freedom.
Mandatory cavity searches can't be far away.
Would those count as cheating on my wife?
not if she pegs you
Another Duh! moment from the TSA.
If I were a terrorist looking to cause widespread panic, I would detonate a really big bomb as soon as I got to the nudie scanner.
The general public would shit its pants.
Balko is a hero.
now if only he can complete the plan to take down the Huffpo from the inside...
No worries, mate. AOL is poison to all of its partners.
The Joker sewed a bomb in one of his minions, and set it off with a cellphone. It's totally plausible.
fight the power PB...screw the authoritarian threaded comment pigs!!
Is this an outlier or tipping point? I'd say outlier as the general public still view police as omnipotent beings.
this is such utter rubbish...
(and i've cited the polls more than once)
the public generally respects cops. they continually rank amongst the top professions in terms of the public's respect, etc.
a small %age hate them. a small %age worship them
mainstream media shows them as generally good people,with plenty of flaws and some bad apples.
law and order, for instance has a substantial # of episodes dealing with lying/corrupt/framing etc. cops (and prosecutors)
pretty much any cop drama is similar. most cops are good people doing a difficult job generally well. a few are bad people. a few are phenomenally good.
the h&rblog; meme though is that either
1) the public sees the cops as incapable of doing wrong
OR
2) most people distrust police and that distrust is growing
but it's never in the middle. it's always one of these two false extremes.
My favorite part of the HuffPo piece was reading about what Cory was thinking about doing in the future. Getting a CDL, meeting his penpal, moving to Florida (like immediately). It just really brings home the fact that he is finally going to be set free.
It'd be interesting to see if Cory gets involved in any way in some sort of assistance for those with similar situations such as he. He definitely brings home the point with this statement -"We as citizens sit back and say, 'Well, this could never happen to me.' But it's happened before. And if we don't take a stand, it's gonna continue to happen to others."
I don't think he can get a CDL. At least not with any endorsements that would make it possible for him to actually work as a driver.
Yeah, probably true. He will surely have employment problems with the big "F" on his record. They really need to get him a Pardon.
Good luck with that. Let's test out that headline:
"Politician pardons cop killer felon"
Yeah, that'll play in Peoria.
Mississippi != Illinois
I'm sooooo going to talk about this at our Liberty on the Rocks meeting tomorrow night at Ye Olde Bull and Bush!
Org whoreing is fun, and not yet illegal.
You know what I hate?
The sheer amount of bullshit that's required to make our system haltingly function.
After a decade in jail under Maye's circumstances, I wouldn't feel bad at all for FUCKING ANYONE. And it wouldn't be appropriate for me to do so. All I should feel is complete rage. That's the correct emotional response.
But I would probably be forced to go through the motions and fucking lie about how bad I felt for the cop and all of that ridiculous nonsense, because that would be part of the price of the bullshit facesaving deal the prosecutors put together with my lawyers. I would have to stand up there and ritualistically lie and cry fake tears so that the assholes running the system could feel like they did the right thing.
And that fucking blows.
Dead on, Fluffy.
The whole system is based on that. But part of that is because it is a human system. And human beings are just like that. The fact is that if you are good looking and well spoken you have a hell of a lot better chance in our system than you would if you are ugly and strange. It is just reality. So for Maye to get any sort of justice he has to play the role. In an ideal world an innocent man should be treated the same way before the law whether he is a saint or a sneering lunatic. Sadly, people don't live up to reality.
I think you woudl be perfectly justified in feeling and behaving that way, Fluffy. But I get the sense that Maye is genuinely remorseful. I've never killed anyone, and I really really hope I never have to, but I can only imagine that killing another person, even if justified, must be quite traumatic. And even if the person who gets killed had it coming, their innocent family still suffers and deserves some compassion.
Speaking generally about self defense (obviously the Corey Maye situation is more complex since it was a cop), but when you happily blow away the intruder in your living room, you always, always say to the cops: "I just, I just feel so bad, if I could take it all back I would. The poor man was probaby just trying to feed his family".
Case in point:
http://www.seattlepi.com/defau.....252251.php
Yeah, that works better when it is just one prole shooting another prole.
Perhaps, but Balko noted specifically that the statement Cory Maye made about the cop was *not* part of the deal that the prosecutors made, and he was free to go without (and before) making the statement.
I feel your pain, "Fluffy."
I'm trying to figure out how a story like this doesn't even interest NPR. They just did a segment about a man who was wrongly convicted of murder. Is the racial component in the Maye case not prominent enough?
He used a gun.
He used a gun in self defense.
He used a gun in self defense against a cop.
(That he didn't know it was a cop would be considered irrevlant to many/most)
A lot of anti-gun and/or anti-self defense types would say that Cory was a murderer. The faux law and order types will definitely say he was a murderer.
I don't expect much positive out of any mainstream news org.
Interestingly enough, I made the rare mistake of watching Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC last night. There was a guest host, and instead of masturbating furiously over the Casey Anthony trial, he used it is a chance to spotlight the Cory Maye situation. He even gave Balko props. I was flabbergasted, and extremely happy, especially knowing that the other MSNBC viewer might have had a thinking moment.
ed schultz also didnt lead w the anthony trial
[District Attorney Hal] Kittrell casts a long, sorrowed look at Jones' parents. Jones' mother shaking her head from side to side.
I'm struggling against my urge to be a total asshole, but this appears to me to indicate her unslaked thirst for vengeance. I pity her.
And- as for the new TSA security bulletin shameless fearmongering: is there ANYBODY at "Homeland Security" who doesn't belong in a fucking straitjacket?
Is there ANYBODY at "Homeland Security" who doesn't belong in a fucking straitjacket iron maiden?
I hear the Coast Guard does some good work.
and ashton kutcher IS dreeeemy!
There was a guest host, and instead of masturbating furiously over the Casey Anthony trial, he used it is a chance to spotlight the Cory Maye situation. He even gave Balko props.
I'm surprised he didn't mysteriously disappear during a commercial break.
"You're thinking about Ron, aren't you? About the Jones family?"
Maye nods, and drops his head into his hands.
Nice he killed someone in what I would call an act of self defense and he morns the pain his act caused. Very noble, very human.
But I wonder would he be being released on manslaughter if he simply did not give a shit about the person he killed in self defense.
I get so sick of lawyers prompting their clients like this. The insincerity of that kind of staged image crafting sickens me.
"Can't we all just get along?"
- Rodney King
Wonder how many cops who kill innocents have the same response?
"After a thorough internal investigation, we have determined that Mr Maye acted properly in accordance with established procedures when he shot that fucking pig dead."
About damn time. He didn't deserve to be in the pokey in the first place.
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