What Elites See When They Look at the Fed
In her Sunday column about the massive 2007-2008 giveaway at the Federal Reserve Bank's discount window, Los Tiempos de Nueva York's Gretchen Morgenson introduces a mystery: Why was the Fed lending so heavily to foreign banks with no discernable interest in U.S. markets?
When the crisis was full-on in 2008, foreign institutions became even bigger beneficiaries of the Fed's credit programs. On Nov. 4 of that year, the Fed extended $133 billion through various facilities. Two foreign institutions — the German-Irish bank Depfa and Dexia Credit of Belgium — received 39 percent of the money that day.
"The striking thing was the large amount of borrowing that the New York Fed accepted during the crisis from European banks that had only a minimal presence in the U.S. and arguably posed no threat to the U.S. payment system," said Walker F. Todd, a research fellow at the American Institute for Economic Research and a former assistant general counsel and research officer at the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. Such a thing would never have occurred 20 years ago, he added.
Why indeed would the Fed help out a Belgian bank? At Business Insider, Gregory White gives one possibility:
Dexia was heavily involved in the U.S. municipal bond market through bond guarantees and, if it collapsed, could have caused problems for the sector broadly, according to Bloomberg.
"If Dexia went bankrupt, it could have been a catastrophe for municipal finance and money funds," said Matt Fabian, a Concord, Massachusetts-based senior analyst and managing director at Municipal Markets Advisors, an independent research company. "The market has extensive exposure to foreign banks."
Dexia isn't alone in this, with Bloomberg also mentioning Depfa as another European bank similarly involved in the muni bond market.
While from a historical perspective this is interesting, it also explains something about the muni market going forward. The threats don't just lie with defaulting cities, counties, or states. But also with banks around the world, that may have guarantees on muni bonds, which investors may or may not be aware of.
Whether you think the market for debt-carrying cities and municipal utilities is sick as a dog, healthy as a horse or just right, this is important news for two reasons: First because when the conversation turns to counterparty risk, we start to hear the faulty morality of "systemic risk" – in which everybody except the two parties who made a deal are considered to be on the hook when it goes bad. Americans who are seeing larger portions of their paychecks eaten up by Ben Bernanke's transitory inflation were never consulted about these dollar creations (dwarfed by subsequent rounds) and wouldn't even know about them now if not for a successful lawsuit against the Fed filed by Bloomberg reporter Mark Pittman.
Second, we have learned a bit about municipal debt since 2008. The collapse of a loan insurer would increase cities' cost of borrowing, but theoretically it shouldn't destroy the muni market if the cities are still reliably paying. But if your reason for accepting a lower-yielding bond is that somebody is insuring your investment, you don't need to be confident in the city's finances. Since the end of the Build America Bonds program, investors have been taking a closer look at city finances and the results have generally not been pretty. By giving financial institutions like Dexia another place to bail out, the Fed may have stopped a collapse in the muni market in 2008, but it also delayed a long-overdue examination of Bob Rizzo-style accounting practices and disclosure. That one we're going to be working through for a long time to come.
This may be why the difference between elite and democratic opinion about the Fed is so wide and widening. If you're one of the players you say, "The Fed saved all of us in our time of need," because to you that's exactly what happened. If you're everybody else you say, "I lost my job/saw my 401(k) tank/endured a 25 percent decrease in the assessed value of my house/etc., after the crisis was supposedly over." So do you thank the Fed for saving the banking system or for turning a financial panic into years of pain?
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Does all of this count as the Fed aggressing against me? Because I'd hate to violate the NAP...but it would be fun to twist their teeth out with pliars, then their fingernails, and finally the tongue. Then use a cigar-snipper to cut off their fingers and toes, and a razor to the hamstrings. Cauterize the hamstring wounds so that it doesn't grow back. Then put out the eyes. Finally dump them on a street corner, there to live out the rest of their pathetic, miserable, vampire lives begging on street corners, looking like disfigured circus freaks who can't speak or see any longer, the object of loathing and pity for anyone who passes them. Then finally they'll be leeching the honest way, by subsisting on change thrown into a McDonald's cup.
But that's just me. I could be wrong.
Holy fuck.
1) agree, pretty much
2) *reminds self never to piss off Jim*
Hey Almanian,
Want to see Jim really pissed off?
Pelosi To Headline Soros 'Change The World' Event...
Oh well that sounds like a fun and entertaining evening of HEY WAIT JUST A FUCKING SECOND...
Quite understandable, but not very cost efficient. All of those actions would take around six hours to administrate. You could actually take significantly less time, but if full satisfaction is the objective than it will have to work out to about six. Say your working an eighteen hour day schedule of exacting revenge on officialdom. That comes to only three of them per day, or one thousand and ninety five in a year. There is just not enough hours in a life time to exact revenge to deal with the magnitude of the crime.
Perhaps if you are selective. Going after only the top one thousand transgressors from a select list, you could make it a five year project, and exact some high quality revenge.
It would only make a dent in the problem, but at least it would send a message.
tug on Superman's cape.
You don't spit into the wind.
You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger,
And you don't mess around with Jim.
Just give them this. Courtesy the M.E.T.H.O.D. Man.
"Yes! Yesss! Oh, let me taste your tears, Ben! Mmm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!"
And herein lies the tragic hypocrisy of the Left. The same folks who think they are supporting the downtrodden masses against the corruption of latter-day robber barons see no irony in their blind support of the Fed and the governmental spending status quo that destroys value disproportionately at the very levels of society they claim to protect. And they do it because their TEAM is in charge. Dupes? Or monsters?
Monsters. They know EXACTLY what they're doing. The special pleading for Teh POOR? is lip service for gullible groupies.
Fuck the D's (and the R's, of course).
Dupes? Or monsters?
There's a mixture in there. Laissez-faire thinking is highly counterintuitive, so you have to be extremely careful with your thought processes to really come to grips with it. Most people don't want to put in the effort, and/or are already committed to a contradictory narrative.
Willful ignorance is, after all, the best kind of ignorance.
Most of them are dupes. Leftists are unbelievably gullible to statements that sound nice, but don't tend to examine them at all. Just say the right things and they'll support you all the way, no matter how actually terrible your policies may be.
Yet they run around calling themselves the "Reality-Based Community." Self-aware, they aren't.
Well, if you're going to be delusional, you might as well do it all the way, right?
I can't argue with that. It's like the Big Lie writ larger.
A key component of being self-delusional is being totally unaware of your own self-delusions.
If a smidgen of self-awareness enters your thinking, you are liable to have the whole ediface come crumbling down. That's why leftists are always alert for the presence of doubters in their midst. There's some tiny mental facet that is on the alert to prefent that smidgen of doubt from entering their social sphere and potentially contaminating their intellectual bubble.
Just preface whatever bullshit you are spewing with some comments about the evils of capitalism, rich people, or corporations. Then lace it with some secondhand Marxist dogma. They'll eat it up.
Some have confused and conflicted good intentions that have never been thought through.
Some are bloody-minded egalitarians that will only be pleased when everyone is "equally shabby".
The latter group also tends to distinguish itself by mentioning "income inequality" every few seconds.
No kidding.
Ignorance is bliss
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Don't touch government (fed, municipal, revenue, whatever) bonds. Don't give trust your money to a bank involved in bonds. Fuck bumfuckton's park improvements.
DEMOCRACY OF HYPOCRISY
DEMOCRACY OF HYPOCRISY ? Revolution levels the playing field!
[Hypocrisy of Democracy vs. Democracy of the Streets]
So what has been learned by the Peoples Revolution of Egypt, well that the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex represents the height of Democratic Hypocrisy, and Hypocrisy according to the Random House Webster's College Dictionary are the false profession of desirable or publicly approved qualities, beliefs, or feelings, esp. a pretense of having viruses, moral principles, or religious beliefs that one does not really posses. And, what has this got to do with Egypt, well the American-Israeli Military Complex has for over the past forty years has been up to its old games, taking the talk about the virtues of a Democratic Society, and professing its duty to bring Democracy to the world, well maybe not a real Democratic Reformation but what would pass for one, if the Democratic Government that it did support was in line with what the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex felt it was all well and good, it was a Democratic government with its approval, and if not it was a corrupt Un-Democratic Government. And in Egypt well it was a good Democratic Government even if it some how had a President for Life, who could just get rid of anyone who didn't toe the line as established by the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex, which paid [$ USD's by the BILLIONS!!!] per year to the President for Life of Egypt, in its citizens Taxpayer [$USD's] to ensure its Democratic Hypocrisy, but it was a beautiful Democracy as far as the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex is concerned, well until the Democracy of the Streets arose.
[The Hypocrisy of Democracy]
Make no mistake it is very much in the interests of Israel, the United States and Europe that Mubarak remains in as President for Life even if the guy is [83] years old, they will prop up the dead body if necessary. Mubarak was their guy, not so much the man of the Egyptian Peoples but the man of the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex, with all his the so called elected officials being simply well paid Yes men to the President For Life, who in turn is a Yes man to the American Israeli Military Industrial Complex, its all pretty much the system of Hypocrisy of Democracy, all family business, and connections. In the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex the guy at the top is the Yes Person, but with Term Limits, so the Democracy of Hypocrisy, seems less Un-Democratic, vice having a President for Life, the system has everyone else elected for Life. The American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex has [Yes Persons], its more Democratic allowing women to get graft for life also,. The Military Industrial Complex places plants into each State [Providence] of the underlings, within the government, with [NO TERM LIMITS], in carefully, [GERRYMANDERED DISTRICTS], and it's a slam dunk, the only way they leave the government is feet first, [$50K USD's] in their refrigerators from kick backs, wide stances in men's toilet rooms, getting a little on the side beyond the wife, and the Moral Hypocrisy goes on.
[Leveling the playing field]
Power to the People is growing globally with the aide of the Internet and all the other technical advancement in communications, with global citizens asking questions and finding out answers that don't fit the Democratic World view, they had expected but turns out that it's all a sham, of smoke and mirror Hypocrisy of Democracy. This creating a Global Revolution in the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex with the Tea-Bagger which has yet to be determined if it is a simple tempest in a tea pot, or the hot water heater is about to explode movement, but other global grassroots movements around the globe are turning into Hot Water Heater Explosions, looking to replace the dysfunctional Hypocrisy of Democracy that has been imposed over the last half century by the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex, with government's that more closely reflects the will of the peoples within their regional [Spheres of Influence]. All at a time when the world is in financial straights counter to the economic interests of the financial institutions [NYSE] New York Stock Exchange, who depend on the security Egypt and other autocratic regimes in other geographical [Spheres of Influence] providing the valuable resources needed to keep the [NYSE] New York Stock Exchange globalization scheme afloat backed by the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex, who in turn own the Yes Persons for life of its Democracy of Hypocrisy Government. No, [Sphere of Influence] the [BRICS] Brazil, The Russian Federation, India, The Peoples Democratic Republic of China, The Union of South Africa, or what appears to the be the developing [Peoples Democratic Islamic Republic] as right behind Egypt are Algeria, Jordon and Yemen, just a few of which are, all looking to free themselves of governments that the American-Israeli Democracy of Hypocrisy Government and its European puppet allies have all supported for decades, and directly profited from preventing the establishment of [Spheres of Influence] beyond their control, thru autocratic repression under the guise of a free market system controlled by Western Nations under common connection and the control of the American-Israeli Military Industrial Complex, the only political Democracy and redistribution of wealth remains under their terms and into their pockets. Revolution is a good thing, it levels the playing field.
HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
Yo, fuck your waterfall of text.
Are you kidding? I love this guy!
Say, why "[Providence]" after "State"?
Agreed; I [missed] him.
I think he needs a neologism: Democrisy. Or maybe Hypocracy?
Now that I think about it, for Democrats who don't like to let a crisis go to waste, there's Democrisis. Plural, Democrises.
"for Democrats who don't like to let a crisis go to waste, there's Democrisis."
Let's not be reinventing the wheel here, okay? Everyone knows that the thing to which you are referring is called a crisitunity.
Ah, missed that one. Good old Homer, always good for a useful new word.
Our ancient Greek predecessors liked "ochlocracy", which roughly translates to, "when democracy goes wrong."
Literally, mob rule. I likee.
Also, from the Latin, we have mobile vulgus.
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BLONDE?
BRUNETTE?
SHAVED.
Yep, I [missed] him, [too] also.
Sometimes I wonder how much useful information I've missed out on over the years, simply because I'm unwilling to read long unbroken paragraphs.
I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
"The Fed saved all of us in our time of need" - for sure.
With leverage hiked to the hilt amid the biggest credit crisis in history the Fed worked, even loaning McDonalds and Caterpillar funds to make their payroll via their commercial paper program. Over $3 trillion went out temporarily and earned over $125 billion in interest for the taxpayers.
Everyone looked at a counterparty and asked "Are they next?"
LIBOR hit historic highs - the system was in full collapse - the Fed saved trillions in potential individual Americans' losses.
WaMu blew up amid a $9 billion bank run, Citi was next at 10x that, then Bank of America, etc.
Hey, no mentioning Washington Mutual. I still get mail from Chase telling me how my pension is tied up in bankruptcy. Still. They don't talk to me about my stock anymore though.
The bondholders even got wiped out on WaMu.
$28 billion in bonds just settled for $335 million in court.
Sounds like a scam to me.
I've got a Social Security sandlot in Florida to sell you!
Hey, don't knock the Fed. They ensured a bunch of shitty companies who took bad risks managed to stay solvent, and so were not punished whatsoever in the marketplace. In fact, the largest banks came out with increased market share and all the incentive in the world to do this all over again! So be grateful; if it wasn't for them, capitalism might almost have worked!
Hey, don't knock the Fed. They were forced to screw us all over one way in order to prevent us from being COMPLETELY screwed over by one of their other mistakes.
The Fed didn't insure anyone.
What you don't understand: In a fractional reserve system you must have a central bank to protect depositors.
This was about saving your deposits - unless you keep all your money in a can buried in your backyard.
You are so catastrophically stupid.
Shrike still has a million dollars.....with them he can afford (almost) a 5-pack of domestic beer.
The "numbers" will always be made to balance....your purchasing power.....well that's not the feds problem! OH SHIT...yes it is....the whole price stability thing in their mandate.....what's up wit dat?
You're obviously too stupid to argue with and have no idea about what the Fed did for price stability.
Real estate prices plunged 98% in the Great Depression and the Fed (this time) prevented the same from happening.
Real estate prices plunged 98% in the Great Depression and the Fed (this time) prevented the same from happening.
Source? I am finding references that show a 30% decline in home prices during the 30's.
See below. Shriek can't post without the spittle shorting out the keyboard.
30%...98% what's the diff....Sheik is too stupid (but always ribbed and snug fitting for his pleasure) to do math!
Sheik....George Bush laughs at your intellect....I heard it on the internets.
This was about saving your deposits - unless you keep all your money in a can buried in your backyard.
Horseshit--saving deposits didn't have anything to do with it. Otherwise, the Fed wouldn't have purchased billions in toxic MBSs.
Real estate prices plunged 98% in the Great Depression and the Fed (this time) prevented the same from happening.
Considering real estate prices are double-dipping, this is stupid even for you, you chimp.
Why do depositors who made a conscious choice to lend their money need to be protected with other people's money?
See Item 1 (Jim)
The Fed is not OPM.
The Fed has never cost you a dime and in fact, earns money for you.
I know, you prefer 1800's style bank scrip - I am used to the Cro-Magnons here.
The Fed has never cost you a dime and in fact, earns money for you.
So, that dollar in your pocket is going to be worth how much 10 years from now? Why?
Perpetual monetary inflation robs people of their savings.
WTF are you rambling about deposits up there? We aren't talking about the FDIC, we're talking about bailing out failing corporations. I thought you leftfags (I took a page from your book) were all about reigning in eeevvvviiiillll korporashuns that rob people blind? Yet here you stand, defending bailing all of them out, so that they live to rob again.
And btw no, a fractional reserve system does not HAVE to have a Fed. You may argue that it increases stability (you'd be wrong, but you can argue it), but to say that it's necessary, is to state that there was no fractional reserve banking anywhere in the United States before 100 years ago, when the Fed came into being.
Technically, the FDIC did, and still is, bailing out the banks with (Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program (TLGP).
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/0.....t-die.html
Where did I say corporations are evil? It sounds like you're saying that and projecting it onto me, asshole.
So they will "rob again"?- yeah - you're the corporate hater.
Its simple - a deposit bank cannot fail and wipe out hundreds of billions in deposits and the puny little FDIC could not handle a Citigroup. My concern is for the depositor and the prevention of bank runs.
And without a central bank panics were MORE commonplace - like every 15-20 years that wiped out the depositors. The Fed was created for the little guy.
Go back to Zerohedge and fellate the other teabagger clowns who think the Fed is a conspiracy dreamed up by the Jew banker Rothschilds.
You're worried about the depositor. Fine. So why did they bailout the shareholders?????? The assets they had could have been auctioned off to cover the depositors, and FUCK the shareholders.
They didn't set out to bail out the shareholders.
They didn't give a fuck about the shareholders or bondholders when WaMu was seized. But who are you going to pair Citi and Bank of America off with?
Morgan? Goldman? Can you imagine the shitstorm?
And the 2-yr process of dismantling the banks to punish stockholders? You're kidding.
The Fed did their thing at no cost to the taxpayer and you guys are bitching because shareholders in Citi at $60 now have $5 worth of stock.
Get real. Talk about wealth envy.
...because shareholders in Citi at $60 now have $5 worth of stock.
They shouldn't have anything. Believe it or not, there are three ways (now four) to deal with insolvent banks.
1. Payout
2. Purchase and Assumption
3. Bridge Bank
(4.) Bailout.
http://wfhummel.cnchost.com/depositinsurance.html
Technically, the banks are still insolvent thanks to changes in accounting standards on capital requirements. See: FASB 157, 166, 167. Then there's the repos....
And without a central bank panics were MORE commonplace - like every 15-20 years that wiped out the depositors. The Fed was created for the little guy.
The 19th-century boom-bust cycles are consistently attributable to artificial credit expansion, a practice government either connived at or actually participated in, through the various privileges it granted to the banking industry.
Ah, so you're some new kind of corporate-loving leftist. I apologize, I thought you were a traditional idiot, but apparently you're some kind of new, improved model.
Anyway, in response to your historically inaccurate bullshit about how awful things used to be:
http://mises.org/daily/5174/Li.....-Lollipops
And if you care to browse, there's a shit-ton (a metric shit-ton, not standard) of articles on this very subject on mises.org.
Its simple - a deposit bank cannot fail and wipe out hundreds of billions in deposits and the puny little FDIC could not handle a Citigroup.
This may be true. The FDIC only holds 0.5%of all deposits, and since at the time, only 4 banks controlled 40% of all deposits, the FDIC would not have been able to handle it. Which is why the FDIC is a fraudulent institution, as well as the FRB.
But even wore than that, the insolvent banks that the FDIC could handle, were simply handed over to the TBTF with sweetheart deals, to create Too Biggerer Too Fail. Don't forget, in his own words, Jamie Dimopn did us all a favor by absorbing Bear Stearns. How are those assets in Maiden Lane I doing, BTW??? Isn't Jamie Dimon on the Board of the FRBNY which set up the deal? Can you say, "conflict of fucking interest"???
Correction:
The FDIC only holds 0.5% of all [insured] deposits,
No one else wanted Bear.
And no one at all wanted Lehman - which was the first domino to fall making the Fed step in big time.
You still won't answer - what else would have cost us less?
The answer is nothing. Your gripe is the continued existence of TBTF but I suspect you are against strict regs (like the ones Dimon is bitching about now) as well.
Lehman was engaged in widespread accounting control fraud, particularly with the repos, not to mention that they were the largest purveyors of "liars loans". Dick Fuld, and the entire upper management team should all be in fucking jail next to Jeffrey Skilling. But if they put Fuld in jail, they would have to put all of those MFers in jail, wouldn't they?
I am against "strict regs", but at the same time, upper management and shareholders should be held accountable for their actions. If banks and financial institutions were held accountable, many of the "strict regs" would be unnecessary. Dimon wants it both ways. As do you.
The most stringent regulation is liability
Exactly. Had the owners and fraud-committing executives had their personal wealth on the line, this would never have gone down.
You still won't answer - what else would have cost us less?
Complete liquidation.
The excuse given wasn't that the FDIC didn't have the money, the excuse given was that the bankruptcy courts could not handle such a large "fire sale" liquidation. On that, I call BULLSHIT.
shrike|4.6.11 @ 8:10PM|#
..."You still won't answer - what else would have cost us less?"
Among your many inanities, this one in particular stands out.
You've yet to prove that this option did anything at all as far as 'cost[ing] us less'.
So, the answer is simple; let the market set the values.
And without a central bank panics were MORE commonplace - like every 15-20 years that wiped out the depositors. The Fed was created for the little guy.
Actually that's just not historically accurate.
The two year period of 31-33 had more bank collapses due to runs than all the rest of US history combined, and that happened 18 years after your Fed-God was created.
Deposit insurance prevents bank runs.
Central banks bankroll the state and bailout incompetent investment bankers.
Hmmmmm? Ensure, insure, what's the difference?????
Um, all that the central bank does is even out the reserves of the banking system, so that nobody has two much money in reserve while other banks have too little. This allows banks to expand credit in unison, which allows bubbles to go on longer before they pop.
Yep, that sounds like something that we "must" have.
too much money, not "two" much money...
Re: shrike,
There. More accurate.
Hey dummy....nothins fixed!
And they're back to their old tricks.....but when it buckles again it'll be a democrat holding the bag full of shit!
I'm not seeing how this is going to be favorable to your....ahem...positions at all.
shriek's insane, so he doesn't have to make sense. Don't you know the rules?
Sorry I stopped reading after the first few pages..maybe I'll get back to it.....someday!
shrike is making a cogent, if complex, argument. You are sniping with empty insults as usual. You are not the smartest guy in the room. Just the most insecure.
"And without a central bank panics were MORE commonplace - like every 15-20 years that wiped out the depositors."
1. All of those panics market corrections were a result of subsidized industries collapsing.
2. No, they are an equal commonplace before and after the fed. The government is still creating bubbles by subsidizing things and those things are still collapsing. Why do you think we are still talking about it?
ignorance is bliss
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Ignorance is bliss
Muni bonds? "Outlook remains negative."
An argument for ignorance is bliss
My ignorance is bliss!
Why indeed would the Fed help out a Belgian bank?
Belgium doesn't have a government. How can they have a bank? :p
The special pleading for Teh POOR? is lip service for gullible groupies.
Nope. Here's how Obama talks in front of one half of his groupies (at a Sharpton thing today):
"If you're complaining about the price of gas and you're only getting 8 miles a gallon, you know," Obama said laughingly. "You might want to think about a trade-in."
And the other half of his fans get the "bitter, cling" speech.
It's a very pure hate he caters to.
Good thing Cash for Clunkers messed with the used car market to the detriment of the buyer, eh?
"If you're complaining about the price of gas and you're only getting 8 miles a gallon, you know," Obama said laughingly. "You might want to think about a trade-in."
And give up my 21" dubs?
So do you thank the Fed for saving the banking system or for turning a financial panic into years of pain?
Did the FRB, Treasury and FDIC "save" the banking system? Of course. Was there a better way that they could have done it. Absofuckingpostilutely
YOUR TIME IS NOW!!!
[THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY SPHERES OF INFLUENCE YOUR TIME IS NOW]
[THE STATISTICS]
Now, we just got thru doing what we always do an that is surfing for something to comment upon and boy did we come up with a really hit you in the gut AMERICAN PATRIOT article, on [www.RealClearPolitics.Com], entitled The Washington, D.C., Disconnect, By Lawrence Larry Kudlow, now the figures presented are from polls, put together and presented from his article of what the Dreamers, Thinkers, Workers, [Netcitizens], and Tea-Baggers of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, want;
[58%] Want Smaller Government
[59%] Want Tax Cuts
[59%] Want The Deficit Cut
[75% - 83%] Dislike and/or blame all politicians, for the pickle were in.
[WHAT VOTERS WANT]
Larry Kudlow Quote; What do I think voters want? Traditional, commonsense, center-right free enterprise, which basically says to the government, Please, let me keep more of what I earn and, please, just leave me alone, unquote. Now, Larry was polite in his article were most of us would have been more straight forward and said what we want is the American Way back, your hands off my wallet and get out of my face. And again and again thru his article can be found [Washington just doesn't get it]. The Empire has lost its morally authority domestically and internationally, and is intellectually wanting, financially bankrupt, and militarily in decline. The government has been correctly described as an oligarchy of alienated, abusive, corrupt, indifferent, jaded, self-centered pros, permanent residents locked in the Utopian Beltway, of the District of Clowns whose only movement is from their offices on Pennsylvania Avenue, when in elected office, to cushy K-Street Lobbyist offices, or think tanks paid by corporations to think the way they are paid to think, when they are not, and back again.
[ABUSE OF EXECUTIVE POWER]
And now with the gridlock and meltdown in progress, with the Empire, until the elections of November of [2010]and beyond once begun, the Media Messiah Imperial President will give his subjects a dose of abuse of his executive power and authority, to influence policy even without legislation, through executive orders, agency rule-making and administrative fiat, the know what's best and their going to shove it down the throats of the Dreamer, Thinkers, Workers, [Netcitizens], and Tea-Baggers, no pain, no gain. Its no longer what voters want, but what the Media Messiah Imperial President of the Empire and a handful of elite cabinet officials want, government by decree.
[WE PONDERS FAILED]
Being, of Pondering Age, it is my opinion that we of the Beat Generation, and the Hippy Generation, failed in our jobs, if there is a deity then [GOD DID WE FAIL] to pass to the next generations, our firm believe in Freedom, our right to be free of government interference, but we grew up in another age, another time, another era when there was freedom and we simply took it for granted. But, the same Pondering generations are on line, an in the face of power, on line telling the Dreamers, the Thinkers, The Workers, the [Netcitzens], the Tea-Baggers of the [21st] Century out there on the front line, that it is their future, and not that of the Media Messiah Imperial President and his rubber stamp, [544] District of Clowns Royal Court, or a hand pick group of Cabinet Members to decide their future. It is time to end the [AMERICAN-ISRAELI EMPIRE], and once return to [THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA], with no one having a [SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP], but and [EQUAL RELATIONSHIP] with this nation.
[THE REVOLUTION MUST BEGIN]
The Revolt is on an there are more little old men like that Texas [14th] District Representative of Texas, Dr. Ron Paul out there, his children and his children's children, and the children of so many like him. [THIS IS THE YEAR, THIS IS THE TIME, THIS IS THE MOMENT], the [CONTRACT FROM AND NOT TO AMERICA] is being written, it is telling those elected to serve the American People, what is [NOW EXPECTED, NOW DEMANDED, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN]. The Dreamers, The Thinkers, The Workers, the [Ponder Netcitizens], The Tea-Baggers, the true Patriots of this country are going to Washington, D.C. you can bet on it, only this time its will be in the millions, you can smell it, you can sense it, its coming, as with the Grapes of Wrath, They just can't stop us, WE ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND WE JUST KEEP A COM'IN.
[THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY SPHERES OF INFLUENCE YOUR TIME IS NOW]
The Global Community of Spheres of Influence, The [BRIC] Brazil, The Russian Federation, India, and The Peoples Republic of China, the [EU] European nations linking the [10] Ten major nations of Europe, [ASEAN] Association of Southeast Asian Nations, countries, who already want a single currency by [2020] the generally accepted end of the American-Israeli Empire, member would include; Australia, Brunei, China [to include the breakaway Chinese Providence of Taiwan & the Taiwan Straits], Tibet, The China Sea, Hainan Island India, The countries within the region of Indo-China [Vietnam], Indonesia, Malaysia, Japan New Zealand, Paracel Islands, Philippines, Spratly Islands, and a United Korea. With a Geo-Economic Influence extending around the Economic [21st] Century Ring of Economic Fire the countries of the [PAC/RIM] Those nations bounding the Pacific Rim, Australia, [The Republic of Alaska, The Republic of California, The Republic of Hawaii, upon their secession from the American-Israeli Empire], Canada, Mexico, Central America, and South America, with extended Geo-Economic Influence into Africa [Sudan], Cuba, India, and Pakistan, thru loans and economic assistance.
This is a time to act in your own self interests, to view any international connection, relationship, accords, or treaty as tenuous at best with an American-Israeli Empire in decline. It is time to step back and evaluate what is not only best within each of your Spheres of Influence, not only in the short but long term, for the rest of the Global Community of Spheres of Nations into the [21st] and [22nd] Century, this is a dangerous year of flux, in the down slide of the Empire to its end in [2020], the Wheel of Fate has Changed, your nations and Spheres hold the future in your hands, starting at this moment in history, you hold in your hands the moral authority, domestically and internationally, and intellectual leadership lacking within the Empire, your time has come, the future rests with you, Dr. G. Westerwelle of Germany, President Hu Jintao, of the Peoples Republic of China, Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama, of Japan, and President Dmitry Medvedev of the Russian Federation, ready or not your time has come, single one world government of the Empire, and its Media Messiah Imperial President rule by executive power and authority can not be that of the Community of Nations.
HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
Ok pal, I defended you up there, but lets try to limit it to [one] bout of insanity per comment thread.
He did use the term "Wheel of Fate", which sounds a lot like, "Bust a deal, face the wheel."
Gulag! Gulag! GULAG!
Or perhaps Wheel of Fish.
Weird Al?
Still makes more sense than Sheik.
Sheik Yerbouti?
Whoa. I must be having an LSD flashback, or something. That was actually lucid to me. Well, more lucid than usual.
Tim, I normally don't agree with Reason's analysis of financial markets, but I think you nailed this one on the head. Good job.
Tim, I normally don't agree with Reason's analysis of financial markets
Funny, neither does Obama.
...or Gasparino
OK, so last call: Any Hit-and-Runners planning to attend the Knob Creek shoot this weekend? If you are, and you see a dude rockin' a Reason T-shirt with short barreled M16 slung on one shoulder, it's probably me.
A short-barreled M-16? Do you mean an M-4?
The "short barrel" was referring to something else.
Haha.
OooooooooooK.
Yes and no. I was referring to my 10.5" barrel, but I also have 14.5" (M4) and 20" uppers.
I guess it's more like an M4 because I have a collapsing stock on it, but the barrel is way shorter.
Did you have that machined yourself? I haven't seen any barrels that short. I haven't really been looking into AR-type rifles, but I'd hope something like that would have jumped out at me.
Also, is there a rail system for one that short?
It uses the same gas tap and front sight locations as an M4 so anything that'll fit an M4 will work. I got mine custom made but Model 1 sales sells them, for instance. So do CMMG and others. Look around and you'll find them. Some only sell 11.5" but you can definitely find 10.25" ones.
It runs best with a heavy or hydraulic recoil buffer. The cyclic rate is very high with standard carbine length buffers.
I'm sure you know this, but just in case, remember that barrels shorter than 16" are prohibited on lowers not registered as machineguns or short barreled rifles.
I knew that about the barrel length (didn't remember it was 16", but remembered there was a restriction on it), but it's widely ignored at a lot of gun shows down here (Texas). Frankly I try not to let regulation prevent me from owning something awesome.
10 years in the Federal pen and up to $200,000 in fines should be enough to make you think twice about that. I don't agree with the law, but you're playing with fire if you don't obey it.
Interesting. I'll definately have to look into that.
It's called an SBR.
If it's semi-auto only, it's an SBR. If it's full auto or select fire, it's a machine gun. Barrel length is unrestricted by regulations on machine guns because they are defined separately under law. SBRs, MGs, suppressors, and some other small arms are legally distinct from pistols, rifles, etc.
I wish, but no. Kill lots of targets for me.
I'll put a few rounds into a major appliance for you.
Because Obama was setting a new tone for international cooperation?
shrike|4.6.11 @ 7:00PM|#
..."Real estate prices plunged 98% in the Great Depression and the Fed (this time) prevented the same from happening."
Right:
"To put these figures in perspective, during the Great Depression, the average American home lost 25.9% of its value, over the course of five years."
http://www.realestateinvestor......=33&page=8
Also, shouldn't we wait until real estate prices stop falling before we declare what the decline was in the current depression?
We didn't wait then, let's not wait now.
That'd be nice, but with the Fed doing everything it can to maintain the bubble, I'm not sure I'll live that long.
And, BTW, states (at least CA) have now decided that ".....people who stripped equity out of their homes deserve taxpayer help after all."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....1IQG4F.DTL
Yup.
Shrike meant the [other] Great Depression.
"Shrike meant the [other] Great Depression."
When the meth runs out......
This was good enough I'd like to post it again for general consumption, not just in response to our resident retard Shrike:
http://mises.org/daily/5174/Li.....-Lollipops
shriek is the resident ultra-hyperactive spaz retard. We have many kinds of retard here, and you need to classify them appropriately.
I would have gone into more specifics as to the actual manner and degree of retardation, if I wasn't already using his name in the post. Point taken, however.
For instance, contrast the retardation of rectal (aka rather) vs that of shriek. Both are incoherent, but rectal is bonecrushingly stupid in her banal comments, whereas shriek is mindbendingly delusional in his. It's like the difference between a Cabernet and a Shiraz.
I prefer Tony, he's more of a Chardonnay. Whereas Hobie is more of Thunderbird vintage.
And shriek is that hit of raw moonshine you took on a bet and wished you hadn't.
Why the wine metaphor when we are talking about prostitutes?
Rather is the jelly ass you feel sorry for.
Shrike is the toothless crone. Blow jobs only 'cause that cooch don't bleed nothin'.
Tony is the tranny with a bad case of the sniffles. Tears or allergies or something worse, nobody knows.
Hobie is all business about it until right in the middle of a boring ass butt drag that you can't wait to finish up she asks you to choke her.
But.. but.. they taught me in Economics that the Fed was AWESOME. Also, that Keynesianism TOTALLY WORKS.
I'm taking a macroeconomics class right now, and we're discussing the Fed as it is and how it's supposed to work. Still, the more I think about it, the more I do notice favoritism not just towards the Fed, but towards Keynesianism in general based on the words used to describe them and the surprisingly brief mentioning of Monetarism.
The Crabs the crabs the crabs the crabs. RON PAUL! He will announce for prez in 2012 in some near future date to be determined. Von Mises is wisest.
The Crabs the crabs the crabs the crabs.
They got a lotion for that.
DR. RON PAUL, First President of the NEW MEXASFORNIA REPUBLIC!
HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
And HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN is the Romanian dame who some how gets away with charging three thousand and hour.
You ever seen a Romanian "dame"?
No way!
With a name like HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN, I'm just making an educated guess. That's very Romanianish esp. the sur, and that is one expensive name.
Plus the only one of the five I like.
I mean all caps and shit? You gotta at least slip Nick some fine uncut Colombian to get away with that.
Wouldn't it be more French? Cyrano de Bergerac's name was Hercule-Savinien.
For some fun google Romanian, HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN. Okay, here is a taste.
http://pltcldscsn.blogspot.com.....-from.html
I see why that works now. Missed it the first time.
BTW, which of the Roman pastoral poets was exiled to Romania?
Ovid. And I'm very glad you mentioned that. It prompted me to do a little memory refresher, and I started reading his Ars Amatoria. It's hilarious in a clever way, and rather insightful.
Here's another interesting fact.
Not only did the Fed lend money to foreign banks, it also purchased their toxic assets as part of the MBS purchase program.
Data available on the fed website lists Credit Suisse, BNP Paribas, Deutsche Bank, Nomura International Securities, and RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland) Securities, as recipients of payments in exchange for toxic assets from the Fed (i.e. freshly printed dollars in exchange for waste paper).
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting tired of the looting class being called "the elite". To me, that word means someone who's accomplished something worth doing.
-jcr
How about, "The Gentry"?
The article fails to mention that some of the bailout money paid to foreign banks went right back to US banks.
The first rule of counterfeiting is that the earlier recipients of new money benefit more than the later recipients.
Do not taunt Super Happy Fun Fed.
Re: shrike,
There. More accurate.