Giffords Tucson Shooting

A Democratic Legislator Has Been Shot. Therefore Republicans Should Change the Name of Their Health Care Repeal Bill.

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At The Huffington Post, Democratic Rep. Chellie Pingree says the path to civility in politics starts with changing the name of the House GOP's health care repeal bill:

A good place to start a more civil dialog would be for my Republican colleagues in the House to change the name of the bill they have introduced to repeal health care reform. The bill, titled the "Repeal the Job Killing Health Care Law Act," was set to come up for a vote this week, but in the wake of Gabby's shooting, it has been postponed at least until next week.

Don't get me wrong—I'm not suggesting that the name of that one piece of legislation somehow led to the horror of this weekend—but is it really necessary to put the word "killing" in the title of a major piece of legislation? I don't think that word is in there by accident—my Republican friends know as well as anyone the power of words to send a message. But in this environment and at this moment in our nation's history, it's not the message we should be sending.

Yes, that's it. A deranged young man shoots a congresswoman and kills six people for no clear or comprehensible reason; obviously, the proper response is to implore your political opponents to change the name of a piece of mostly symbolic repeal legislation. Regardless of whether you care for the repeal bill, its slightly awkward title, or the GOP's annoyingly-on-message fondness for repeating the phrase "job-killing," this seems a remarkably small and petty way to respond to last weekend's horrific events. But I suppose that's what happens when genuinely terrible acts are squeezed through the partisan meat grinder and processed into easy talking points. 

Still, she seems to have convinced at least one of her Republican colleagues. Republican Rep. Mike Pence apparently told several reporters that he thought the phrase "job-killing" should go. "I prefer 'government takeover of health care,'" he said. But that might present a rhetoric problem too. Doesn't Pence know that's Politifact's Lie of the Year?

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  1. Because it has the word “killing” in it? Sheesh, that is silly.

    I do think it seems like a bit of an unstatesmanlike name for a bill, but that’s a bit sensitive.

    1. Partisans are the most disgustingly petty people in the country. They make the Housewives of Bitchville look like fucking models of responsible adult behavior. The reason the number of independents is going up in the country? Because decent people don’t want to think of themselves as having any similarities to those people.

        1. I second that Amen.

    2. MNG, I sincerely respect what you’re doing on this subject.

    3. I tend to agree that it’s a little funny-sounding and not terribly bill-like, but I have to say that the reaction is so staged and so ridiculous that I wouldn’t blame the sponsors if they changed the name to the “Repeal the Health Care Law that Shoots Jobs with a Glock Act.”

  2. Repeal the Constitution Ass-Fucking Health Care Law Act

    1. +9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

      I second the motion.

      1. That’s a lot of nines. Miss your meds again?

  3. Tone down the rhetoric! Fishkill, N.Y. encourages the murder of peaceful fish! We demand that the citizens of Fishkill change the name of their community immediately. How many more fish must die on the altar of free speech?

    1. How about SeaKittenKill, NY instead?

      1. aaaaawwwwww

    2. Not to mention the Arthur Kill or Kill Van Kull.

      No, really, I said not to mention them.

      1. Fishkill, N.Y. really really really really really really sets a tone of violence. With its name, its very name, its very identity, with this very identity, Fishkill engenders a climate of hate, a climate of fear and hate and intolerance, a climate of rhetorical Armageddon that really really really really really…sorry…what was my point?

        1. We need to nuke Kill Devil Hills from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

    3. This actually happened.

      http://articles.cnn.com/1996-0…..p?_s=PM:US

  4. As a Mainer, I apologize to the rest of the country for the hysterical harpy Pingree.

  5. Repeal the Judge-Murdering Health Care Law Act

  6. What’s Politifact?

    1. A left-wing propaganda site.

  7. Dear Rep Pingree,

    Shut the fuck up.

    Best Always,
    Tom

  8. If it’s passed does it become the “Repeal the Job-Killing Health Care Law Law”?

  9. How about the “Repeal the Health Care Law Because Democratic Rep. Chellie Pingree is a Moronic Assclown Act”?

  10. OK I finally have had it. Enough with the healing of the country. Enough with the “horror of this weekend”.
    What the fuck are these people talking about? Who is in mourning? Let’s see, the cable news channels, the knobs in congress who don’t want to seem uncaring, the families of the slain, left leaning sheriffs, the families of the wounded, the locals around the shopping center maybe.

    Otherwise the rest of America is not in mourning, does not want to stop the rhetoric, not worried about this in this particular moment in our history.
    Who gives a rat’s ass?

  11. Idiocracy advances. The names of modern bills come straight from the ‘I can’t believe it’s not butter’ school of advertising e.g. the No child left behind Act and the Patriot Act.

  12. While the D-ME might look silly for attacking the bill’s name, the bill’s name is moronic. Why don’t we kill jobs? These 80% payout rackets? The HMO jobs? The military jobs?

    KILL ALL THE BOONDOGGLES.
    I hereby put a cross-hair on all the state-capitalist pet projects, and their sponsors and apologists. Bob Brady (D-PA) can BITE ME.

  13. Freedom Fries!

  14. How long before whe get the “Giffords Bill”?

    Jeebus Democrats are fucking shameless with this event. I’m beginning to think that they’d with that even more obscure Democratic congresscritters could get shot… it would give them so much political clout.

    1. *wish* that even more obscure Democratic congresscritters could get shot…

    2. I am absolutely sickened by them trying to make political hay out of this tragic insanity. They’re making people feel sorry for the Republicans–not an easy task.

      What’s really horrible about this effort is that it’s a clear attempt to widely disseminate a known deception to make it take the place of the truth. Be ashamed.

      1. How are you surprised at all after the Wellstone stuff?

        1. It seems worse this time. Wellstone was merely used to do some tacky, inappropriate funeral orations. This incident, they’re blaming the shootings and the deaths on REPUBLICAN HATE!!! OKLAHOMA CITY!!! HATE!!! VOTE DEMOCRAT!! HATE YOU LONG TIME, JOE!!!!!

          1. The same sort of irrationality occurs here too, of course. And not from the trolls, most of whom know that they are trolls.

            1. Are you seriously suggesting that trolls are self-aware? Yet studies show that they regularly fail both the Turing and VK-Empathy tests.

              1. Yes. Trolls know that they are trolling. In this respect, they are more self-aware than those of us who are sincere in our self-delusions.

          2. You know who else blamed all their problems on a specific demographic?

            1. Me and the Rev. Al Sharpton?

              1. We got a thing,
                Goin’ on.

      2. Yeah, I turned it to Fox News last night and actually found myself agreeing with Sean Hannity.

        1. Dear Lord.

          1. Beats agreeing with Olbermann…

            …but not by much.

    3. When it’s shameless enough that the intellectually honest among their own kind are paying attention, there’s a good chance it’s all going to backfire spectacularly. Or not, who knows.

      1. That’s one of the things that surprises me, that the Big Lie campaign isn’t slowing down, despite a number of Democrats rejecting it out of hand.

    4. Expect a liberty-killingbatteringassaultingmolestingraping limiting bill called “Christina’s (dead 9 year-old 9/11 Girl) Act” any day now.

  15. Are you missing me yet?

  16. If Laughner somehow goes free, becomes a stand-up comedian, and starts out each set with:

    “Hey everyone, thanks, how are we doing. Thanks, thanks. I’m hoping this show goes as well as my show in Tucson, because I killed over there!”

    would Pingree’s head explode be repealed?

  17. I guess the unix “kill” command needs to be changed.

    1. treatcivilly -s SIGKILL 1414

  18. The amount of stupid being displayed in this “debate” is mind numbing … like holy shit you guys suck.

  19. When did we enter Bizarro World in which the concept of metaphor no longer exists? Is everything to be interpreted literally only from now on?

    1. A world in which metaphors no longer exist.

      I have a shipment of Newspeak dictionaries here. Who wants to sign for them?

  20. They should change the name.

    To the “Gabby Giffords Repeal the Job Killing Health Care Reform Act”.

    1. Speaking of using her name for, well, anything, I’d like to note for the record that she’s not dead. A kid is, as are several other adults.

      I’m not saying that she doesn’t deserve sympathy, support, etc.–she absolutely does–but those trying to trade off of her name might want to think about how that looks to the rest of us. Oh, we hoi polloi (including we hoi polloi judges of the unmutual political party) don’t count, do we?

      1. Why do you hate Democracy, Pro L?

        1. Exactly.

  21. The worst is Bernie Saunders…who is fund-raising on this.

  22. They should change the name of the bill because it makes them seem like fucking retards.

    1. “They should change the name of the bill because it makes them seem like fucking retards.”
      Yeah! Honesty pisses off the Dems!

      1. Tsk. Such incendiary rhetoric, Tony. Aren’t you Enlightened Ones supposed to be against that sort of thing?

        1. I’m going to torch this fucking place!

          1. Burn, baby, burn!

  23. Politfact is right when it says that calling Obamacare a “government takeover of health care” is a lie, but not for the reasons they give.

    It is a lie because government had to a large extent ALREADY taken over health care, a long time ago.

  24. And the guy that thinks the government is trying to control people via grammar is… the crazy one?

  25. Hey, someone on the Seattle Times Comments section just used the “Fire in a crowded theater” analogy with Glenn Beck et. al.

    DRINK!

    1. I guess ‘The Boy who Cried Wolf’ doesn’t translate to hipster.

  26. That idea is already out. Someone posted this on FB, wait until the end. Jesus h. Christ that is shameless bullshit. (then again it’s talking heads.

    http://video.foxnews.com/#/v/4…..t_id=87651

  27. Job Raping Health Care Bill?
    What would Steve Smith do?

  28. Meanwhile old friend joe seems to have done something that set off Thoreau?
    http://highclearing.com/index……1/10/12347

    1. Raise your hand if you miss joe.

      1. I miss Thoreau and the Moose. Joe is still a bag o shit.

    2. He’s worse than ever. I see that he even throws in the “Stop playing the victim, Mrs. Palin” line, right on cue. Frankly, I think Palin is a victim of this media crap. . .and so do a majority of the country, I’m sure.

      Naturally, he’s trying to imply that she thinks she’s THE victim of the tragedy itself, which, of course, is totally false.

      Another bit of disingenuousness is this idea that this variety of mental illness can be influenced by outside factors. Of course, the outside factors that the left and the more partisan media are blaming are, conveniently, likely to have contributed to the incident. Or maybe that’s total fiction?

      Too bad there was never any evidence whatsoever to support what is clearly and purely a politicization of something that shouldn’t be subject to partisan attacks.

      1. I am going to do a dance when it comes out that he watched HyperOlberman every night.

    3. Wow, and thoreau issued a denunciation. I’ve never done that before. Whoa.

      1. He has to say it 2 more times for it to take effect.

  29. Excerpt from the link I posted above early today. The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off (not the excerpt).

    In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s defensive line. — George Carlin

    So, is the rhetoric of football responsible for violence in America? Or is it just a FUCKING METAPHOR? Same for political metaphors. People who think metaphors have actual power are as bad as the nutjob shooter worrying about grammar control. Does the unix kill command lead to a culture of violence in the IT industry? Why does American fan violence at football games pale in comparison to fan violence at European football games?

    Should George Carlin have been banned?

    1. What blows me away over all of this if that we’re talking about this topic at all.

      “Should we say it like this? We don’t want to set some crazy person off on a killing spree.”

      In saner times (See? You can’t avoid it), those who would even suggest that we mentally neuter ourselves because of what *might* happen on account of that somehow, somewhere, this information *might* migrate into a nutjob’s head and he *might* do something bad as a result, would have been shunned from the community and be made to wear a funny hat or carry something heavy around his/her neck as a warning to others to avoid this authoritarian weirdo.

      Is everyone on the left taking tit-fuckingly-stupid pills?

      1. They’re making the right look far less scary, that’s for sure.

      2. Love the phrase “tit-fuckingly-stupid” – though to me, tit-fucking is more appealing than ass-fucking. Just sayin’.

  30. I’ll start with some civility: *uc* him!

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