TSA Chief: We Don't Do Body Cavities
Last week TSA Administrator John Pistole told the Senate Homeland Security Committee "it is clear we have to be one step ahead of the terrorists," because "there is an ever-evolving nature to terrorist plots." Why is it, then, that the TSA always seems to be one step behind? A guy tried to ignite explosives in his shoes, so now we must take off our shoes in airport security lines. Terrorists plotted to bring down an airliner with liquid explosives, so now we must discard our beverages before going through the security checkpoint and keep our toiletries in tiny bottles. A would-be saboteur sewed 80 grams of explosive powder into his underwear, so now we must submit to full-body scans or intimate encounters with TSA agents that never have a happy ending—and might not even have caught the underwear bomber himself. If the TSA really were trying to be one step ahead of the terrorists, it would be anticipating bombers who find even better hiding places for their explosives. Yet today Pistole insisted "we're not going to get in the business of doing body cavities."
Groping little girls until they cry, giving women an experience "worse than going to the gynecologist," bursting the urostomy bag of a bladder cancer survivor—these are all acceptable (though regrettable) tradeoffs in the quest to create the illusion of security (from terrorist bombs, if not the probing hands of TSA screeners). But according to Pistole, feeling around inside passengers' rectums and vaginas is a grope too far. For now.
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"" Yet today Pistole insisted "we're not going to get in the business of doing body cavities."""
This is from the same guy that didn't want to clue Americans about the new procedures in advance because it would tipoff the enemy and allow them to figure out a way to get around it.
You have always loved it when we federal employees violated your rights, and now you can't wait for us to begin violating your dignity, and even your very humanity.
Consider this disloyal citizens paraphrased statement: "For a sane person in a sane country, the following statement should be true 'My freely chosen bedmates and doctors are the only ones allowed to see my naked body or touch my genitalia.'"
Wrong. You people no longer have the right to such dignity and respect here in the USA. This woman might talk big and tough behind the internet, but I guarantee when we tell her to shut up and spread her legs, she'll fall right in line with the rest of you good little Americans.
http://youareproperty.blogspot.....results=16
You have always loved it when we federal employees violated your rights, and now you can't wait for us to begin violating your dignity, and even your very humanity.
Consider this disloyal citizens paraphrased statement: "For a sane person in a sane country, the following statement should be true 'My freely chosen bedmates and doctors are the only ones allowed to see my naked body or touch my genitalia.'"
Wrong. You people no longer have the right to such dignity and respect here in the USA. This woman might talk big and tough behind the internet, but I guarantee when we tell her to shut up and spread her legs, she'll fall right in line with the rest of you good little Americans.
http://youareproperty.blogspot.....results=16
They weren't in the business of taking naked pictures either. Yet now they are. Imagine that.
This. There is always a "line", or a point of going too far. For Pisole, going too far would be a cavity search. But for many of us, the TSA is already going too far. Just because he thinks it's ok, doesn't mean the rest of us have to. But apparently we aren't entitled to our own opinions anymore.
Sure you are. You just better not express them in front of your government masters, or they may re-think that cavity search.
They don't do body cavities. They are body cavities. Take a guess which one.
Rectums? Since "assholes" aren't technically a "cavity"?
DING! DING! DING!
Not bad since you had seven guesses.
Well, in this case, since the same effluent spews from their mouths, either rectum or mouth could be correct.
Great, so we will have assholes, checking rectums.
Brilliant!
At least this is the one area where they truly are experts.
That video provides no guidance in the event of accidental boners. I want my money back...
I think the fine men of America should do everything in their power to have massive erections when getting their patdown. Spread the holiday cheer, gentlemen.
not all of us are capable of massive erections.
Hilary is.
YYYAAAAAYYY!!!!!!!!! Another TSA post!!!!
Now 42% snarkier!
Jacob, is there a citation for this? I thought the liquids rule was implemented after one of the bureaucrats at DHS saw the third Die Hard movie.
Can't wait for the first person to Die Hard after a thorough groping.
In case you were being serious, he's referring to the planned bombings of aircraft originating frrom the UK in 2006.
Thanks! I had never heard the details of this.
Pistole insisted "we're not going to get in the business of doing body cavities."
We are, however, going to get in body cavities.
Poor choice of words on Pistole's part there--I'd certainly hope they aren't planning on "doing" anyone's body cavities.
No, it's an *excellent* choice. He cleverly leaves "doing body cavities" to the surgeons.
I sliced open my yambag and stuffed it with C4 years ago, just in case I ever decide to suicide-bomb anything. It shouldn't degrade for a couple more decades.
Yeah, there's no detonator in my nut sac, obviously, but I figure if some 'roided up cop or adrenalized vigilante ever sees my balls are on fire in a weird-looking way when I'm coming out of an airplane bathroom or something, he'll try to stomp 'em out. It's pretty much psychologically impossible that someone won't.
Then, yay.
Even if this isn't true, this is one of the more gloriously deranged things I've read lately. I'm going to believe there's a lunatic out there somewhere with a nutsack full of C-4.
This strategy will not deter Balko.
if it were in my power to award you interwebz points, I would.
"on fire in a weird-looking way" as opposed to a normal-looking way?
"TSA Chief: We Don't Do Body Cavities"
Yet.
So the latest techniques used by terrorists aren't detected by the scanners. Great.
The liquid limit didn't work - it just requires two or three terrorists carrying reagents through security vs. just one. Hell - they don't even need to be on the same flight. They could send families through and give all the liquids to the suicide bomber past security. Yet all of us have to endure carrying our toothpaste in a bag and using tiny deodorant for what? Zero increase in security.
Now we've got naked skin-cancer machines, or if you opt out, a forcible molestation under threat of a $10,000 fine for not complying. Yet again, we're being majorly inconvenienced for absolutely no increase in security. The government's own audit showed the scanners have a poor chance at catching another underwear bomber. They also have ZERO chance of detecting a "keister bomber" like the one that tried to kill a Saudi minister in 2009. Yes - we already have hard evidence that current terrorist techniques aren't detected by any of the fancy scanners or forced groping.
For for all of the hassles, all of the money spent, the traumatized children and grandmothers.. we get nothing.
Also, someone needs to ask that jackass exactly how many levels of bureaucracy separate him from the gropers, and if he has any idea how bad they actually are.
We all learn how to submit to our betters.
Mission Accomplished!
Actually you don't even really have to split them up.
I'm a bad flyer and I like to have some (ok a lot) of liquid courage when I fly. In the good old days, I could just plop a fifth into my carryon and start drinking from the time I hit the gate to the time I picked my luggage up. (People loved to pick me up at the airport).
Now, I have to carefully pour my fifth into those stupid little 3 oz bottles and put them into my plastic baggie. I have never once had anyone question why I needed 6-8 of those little bottles.
I still think the liquid ban is more for the owners of airport bars than for security.
For for all of the hassles, all of the money spent, the traumatized children and grandmothers.. we get nothing.
Well, ... we get jobs.
and pensions, don't forget those sweet taxpayer funded pensions.
And probably a softball league. Don't forget that!
HEY!!
TSA can hardly til that day will "come"soon
"TSA pat-down leaves Mich. man covered in urine"
"Pistole expressed "great concern over anybody who feels like they have not been treated properly or had something embarrassing" happen."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....&tsp=1
Translation: "Great concern" = "tough shit, pal"
"No one living with an `ostomy' should be afraid of flying because they're afraid of being humiliated."
The rest of you, though -- be *very* afraid.
The terrorists won. That is all.
Somewhere in a cave, Bin Laden is reading Drudge and laughing till he wets himself.
The joke is on us.
"TSA pat-down leaves Mich. Saudi-Pakistani man covered in urine"
FTFY
So the DHS is looking at this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.....Technology
I bet they could detect many hostile thoughts at the airport right now. None of them terror related.
http://www.infowars.com/tsa-se.....ways-next/
The technology would mostly be used at airports, and special events.
Oh. OK, then.
Your link to Infowars completely invalidates anything useful you had to say.
I'm not sure whether Infowars has made an effort to become more credible, or whether the world at large has become more ridiculous and they have no more need to exaggerate. They've moved beyond just posting news about FEMA camps, and I've seen Infowars and PrisonPlanet linked on Drudge recently, which is a fairly mainstream aggregator.
Think about it people. The chance of routine body cavity searches of all potential airline passengers = zero.
The whole concept is laughable.
Your social security number will never be used for identification purposes.
The AMT will only be used to go after the wealthy.
You are innocent until proven guilty.
I'll call you tomorrow.
Win!
The check is in the mail
I'll just put the tip in
I have a girlfirend in Canada
I promise I won't come in your mouth.
I hear tell the folks that invented the TSA never saw it becoming a bloated government bureaucracy with 67,000 employees.
Then why were they fighting over the ability to unionize or not?
To finish your first line of thought here:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=40058&s=rcmp
"... yet."
When the TSA agent feels you up, just say, It only cost me $25 for an extra piece of luggage, how much for a happy ending?
"Fig leaf" underwear for airport screening
Wouldn't this pretty much just guarantee that you'd have to get groped? You wouldn't make it through the metal detector, and if they saw an opaque patch right over your junk in the scanner, they'd have to give you some enhanced attention anyway.
Reminds me of Spinal Tap. Surely someone somewhere has gone through security with a aluminum foil wrapped cucumber in his (or better yet, her) pants.
If not, they should.
"It's unclear whether it would lead to an automatic, more intrusive pat down by federal Transportation Security Administration officials."
Oh, I can make a wild guess about that one.
Poor, poor babies
"Instead of making this Wednesday National Opt-Out Day in which a bunch of self-appointed guardians of liberty slow down the line for everyone by asking for pat-downs," said Baker, "maybe what we need is a day when everyone who goes through the line says, 'Thanks for what you do.' "
I couldn't get that link past the damn spam filter.
That's because you're not as good as me, obviously. Have some metal.
Can we at least give the dude some real metal?
Meshuggah is bad and you should feel bad.
"maybe what we need is a day when everyone who goes through the line says, 'Thanks for what you do.' "
Acting surly and feeling up my eight year-old? Yeah, thanks.
Thanks for being an arrogant authoritarian little prick who works for the TSA because he isn't qualified for the job cleaning the bathrooms ? Is that what we should be thanking them for ?
Maybe what we need is a day where everyone passes out McDonald's applications to the screeners as we go through security.
What has McDonald's done to deserve that?
-jcr
Apparently the mental health professionals will not be available for "people who did not make these rules but are charged with being on the receiving end of them nonetheless".
You know, this really makes me appreciate people in the food service industry. I think that they have the same education level as the TSA, but the food service industry folks somehow manage to make an honest wage without sexually assaulting people on a regular basis. Maybe we need to have private sector employee appreciation day.
a bunch of self-appointed guardians of liberty
That's right, people. Leave guarding your liberty to the professionals.
I signed up with a different TSA!
""http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-promises-us-death-thousand-cuts/story?id=12204726""
AQ gets it. They know that our knee jerk reaction works good to usurp our precious liberty.
Enhanced Scanners Win 2-1 Support, But Half Say Hands Off to Pat-Downs
This is a classic case of "It doesn't effect me, so why should I care?"
To paraphrase:
First they came for the shoes, and I didn't speak up, because I wear sandals.
Then they came for the liquids, and I didn't speak up, because I use hotel soap.
Then they came for the junk...
There is no fucking way that poll accurately represents public opinion in America.
Could be that the people answering really have no idea at all what they're talking about, and don't know the difference between a metal detector and the new scanner.
They have a PDF of results in there. I'm not on a machine that can copy-paste from PDF, but some of the results seem strange, like 74% support protecting against terrorist and 46% want more privacy.
Also looks like a sample size of 500...
If you click through to the questionaire, you find this question is the business one:
Another interesting one:
Another interesting one: "Do these rules [scanners & enhanced patdowns] make you more likely to fly on a commercial airplane, less likely to fly, or would they make no difference in your decision to travel by airplane?"
More likely: 10
Less likely: 20
No difference: 71
People are twice as likely to be put off flying entirely than they are to feel safer in a way equally meaningful.
Check out this newest TSA incident video with a woman confronted at the airport.
http://youtu.be/gD7sKEOtgSk
"Oh please, Br'er Fying Public, whatever you do, please don't participate in National Opt-Out Day."
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/new.....89.html?dr
Wolanyk was arrested for refusing to complete the security process. A woman, identified by Harbor police as Danielle Kelli Hayman,39, of San Diego was detained for recording the incident on a phone.
Is the TSA now claiming that their acts can't be recorded? On what basis?
awesome how people will risk the
arrest and TSA fines to make a point, makes me proud to live in San Diego
Maybe what we need is a day where everyone passes out McDonald's applications to the screeners as we go through security.
Excellent.
Thank Dumbya for the DHS, TSA, the Patriot Spy Act, the DID, the DOR, and the FUUSA.
If you will kindly enlighten us as to ways in which Barry has made ANY of these better from a liberty-minded point of view.
Well he has not, of course. The guilt lies within the initial Bi Gov perp.
I laugh at so many of the Bush faithful that embrace the loss of liberty and an extended police state embodied by the Big Vatican statists Sharia-fans Scalito and Thomas.
Freedom is most often usurped by Christo/Islamo conservative Taliban types.
shrike|11.22.10 @ 6:51PM|#
"Well he has not, of course. The guilt lies within the initial Bi Gov perp."
If you're a brain-dead ignoramus.
Freedom has been equally usurped by The One, who sees it fit to carry out the legacy of Bush.
And thank you Congress, The Supremes, and the current Administration for all the "enhancement" that followed.
What does Diana Ross have to do with this?
Maybe what we need is a day where everyone passes out McDonald's applications to the screeners as we go through security.
"Yet today Pistole insisted "we're not going to get in the business of doing body cavities.""
Uh huh. Can I quote you on that in, say, about 2 years?
Pistole will be "spending more time with his family" in considerably less than 2 years.
Yet today Pistole insisted "we're not going to get in the business of doing body cavities."
And when Muslim Maniac #6291 decides the best place to hide a bomb is in his pooper, how, oh how, will the TSA respond?
Come on, you statist apparatchik! We want the prison-state! Make sure you take pictures during the cavity
He doesn't even need to do that. An old-fashioned vest full of dynamite in the crowd of hundreds of people going back and forth between the ropes in front of the scanner would have exactly the same effect.
-jcr
You mean the TSA might unintentionally be making us "less" safe by crowding lots of people into a tight space?
If this body scanner plan doesn't work, why, we'll just have to require that people arrive at the airport naked! Don't worry about liberty! You'll have safety, which is much more important!
Yet today Pistole insisted "we're not going to get in the business of doing body cavities."
And when Muslim Maniac #6291 decides the best place to hide a bomb is in his pooper, how, oh how, will the TSA respond?
Come on, you statist apparatchik! We want the prison-state! Make sure you take pictures during the cavity
Pistole should have to do this pat down for 1 plane full of 18-25 yr old males that took Viagra one hour before passing through security without prior relief.
Pistole said in a statement that the agency would work to make screening methods "as minimally invasive as possible,"
by having his agents instruct "clients" to squeeze their sphincters tightly during the patdown.
Now I can inform all of my experience with the beta version of the full body scanner and TSA. Airport was BWI. Situation: I have an artificial left hip joint courtesy of severe osteoarthritis. I even have a prosthetic card signed by my orthopaedic surgeon (and a scar I will proudly display to a shapley hot looking FEMALE TSA agent). I decided on the scanner to avoid the groping of my sexual organs and other body parts. One scan would not irradiate me to a cinder.
After removing my shoes and standing in the scanner; as I proceded to exit, a TSA Agent lept out and accosted me, imploring me to stop dead or be dead. He then proceeded to speak in to his secret agent comm device. Once he finally understood what was said, he proceeded to grab my left leg and fondle away. Now, I was not told the reason for this (national security, I know).
What the jerk did not realize, was I have seen an x-ray of my new artificial body part. It looks like a antique Seneca Indian war club in miniature. However, it is buried deep in my skeletal structure in my leg, not carried stuffed down my pants. Had that been the case, I could have brained the jackasses without effort.
So, folks, I can believe that prosthetic devices are breached and body parts groped in a manner that would bring lawsuits a-plenty if they were done at the County Jail during intake. I'm so glad my tax dollars are going to such hijinks that I appreciate my .45 and my EBR more and more every day.
Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it. You know, I just... do things. The politicians have plans, the terrorists have plans, Obama's got plans. You know, they're schemers. Schemers trying to control their little worlds. I'm not a schemer. I try to show the schemers how pathetic their attempts to control things really are. So, when I say that fondling you in public was nothing personal, you know that I'm telling the truth. It's the schemers that put you where you are. You were a schemer, you had plans, and look where that got you.
I just did what I do best. I took your little plan to see your family or take a vacation and I turned it on itself. Look what I did to this airport with a few high school dropouts and a pair of blue gloves. Hmmm? You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan." But when I say that one little terrorist fails to blow up a plane, well then everyone loses their minds!
Truly awesome!
Young Boy Strip Searched by TSA, the cartoon version.
http://youtu.be/_ZSMJUJkiAY
Copy/Paste the above link into your browser.
How much more do we have to take before we start referring to this panty-stain as "Pustule"? Hmm? I think the time is well past.
If TSA employees had any sense of decency, the rebellion would have started with them not willing treat people this way.
Should say,
Not willing to treat people this way.
What preview button?
I've seen way too much of Pistole being fawned over by various apparatchik media types in the last few days, and every time I see him, I think:
"That guy would look very comfortable with twin lightning flashes on each collar."
Nice one, there is actually some great points on this post some of my associates will find this worthwhile, will send them a link, thanks