Michigan Liquor Commission Bans Nonexistent Product
Last week, when the Michigan Liquor Control Commission banned "alcohol energy drinks," its list of newly forbidden beverages included Smirnoff Raw Tea. There are a couple of problems with that:
1) Smirnoff Raw Tea, a malt beverage similar to Mike's Hard Lemonade but with a flavor reminiscent of iced tea, was never marketed as an "energy drink." According to a spokewoman for Diageo, which owns the Smirnoff brand, it contained "a negligible amount of caffeine—no more than a can of soda."
2) Smirnoff Raw Tea, which was "taken off the market more than a year ago for commercial reasons," does not exist anymore.
A perusal of the commission's three-page list (PDF) reveals a few other curiosities. In addition to fruit-flavored, caffeinated malt beverages like Four Loko and Joose, it includes MateVeza, an IPA brewed with the caffeine-containing herb yerba maté; 808-brand products that contain vodka, cognac, and fruit liqueur as well as caffeine; and Black Jack Cola, the Jack Daniel's Country Cocktail that is supposed to taste like Coke with Tennessee whiskey (although it does not contain any of the latter). But the list does not include any other craft beers that contain caffeine (such as Lagunitas Brewing Company's Cappuccino Stout or Founders Brewing Company's Kentucky Breakfast Stout), and it omits caffeinated distilled spirits such as Pink Vodka. Even if it were true that caffeinated alcoholic beverages posed a uniquely intolerable threat to public health and morals, there would be little rhyme or reason to the liquor commission's targets, especially since nothing it does can stop drinkers from mixing Red Bull with vodka (or coffee with Irish whiskey).
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LOLOL THE GOVERNMENT MADE A MISTALKE!!! DONT YOU SEE THIS MEANS GOVERNMENTS EVERYWHERE MUST BE ABOLISHED!!!>>!>!>>??
(yeah, I know)
Not really, but it makes one wonder about their ability to provide health care to everyone breathing in their borders and also be able to control prices.
You dare question the great and powerful oz?
I think it means they have probably been working on these bans for quite some time.
I dunno about the rest of youse, but I like it when they ban nonexistent stuff. It's way better than when they ban stuff that actually exists.
Why do you still come to this site?
And, again, the "mistake" you're referring to is that government is usurping the power to regulate what consenting adults consume.
Dumb shit.
First they came for Four Loko...
Joke's on them! I only drink unicorn urine!
would you like to buy some?
*shifty eyes*
you holdin'?
I know this isn't really the right place to ask, but where I can I get a job like this? It's such a pointless job and it seems like so much fun! You get to make stupid laws to "protect people" and then you get to push them around when they won't obey. I bet it has decent benefits too.
Seriously, where do I send my CV?
You'd have to move to Michigan, fool.
...nothing it does can stop drinkers from mixing Red Bull with vodka (or coffee with Irish whiskey).
That sounds like a challenge.
yeah...no shit. Watch for the ban on energy drinks being sold in bars coming to a state near you.
Think of all the tasty variants of marijuana they could have banned under the provisions of Prop. 19.
Even if it were true that....there would be little rhyme or reason....
Thanks for continuing to further drive our Pleasant Peninsulas? past the state of ruination and into complete oblivion, State Gummintards!
Just as well they didn't ban the craft beers, though... especially considering the likes of Founders' Kentucky Breakfast Stout and Bell's Java Stout are among the best of their lot, and Michigan made to boot... (granted, the Detroit-dominated state legislature has no qualms about screwing over the Grand Rapids / Kalamazoo area most of the time, but I digress)
Bell's Brewery is one of the few business success stories in Kalamazoo (that, and Stryker); therefore, it's only a matter of time before the state realizes it's "mistake" and screws them, too.
Don't forget New Holland, Dark Horse, Arcadia, Jolly Pumpkin, and several other breweries I can't remember off the top of my head.
It's all about dem bitchez in the U.P.
Jacob, be quiet.
You might give them ideas about what to ban next.
Anything with alcohol OR caffeine should be banned. They both throw you off the edge. Straight edge is the only way to be.
to each his own.
Me, I find the Irish coffee keeps me alert and mellow at the same time. Great fave of mine back in college.
"keeps me alert and mellow at the same time"
Just like when I mix some crack with my weed!
If I drink enough noncaffeinated tequila, you're still seeing:
1. My bare ass
2. My puke
3. My middle finger
...so why bother banning this shit?
Do all of those get intertwined at some point?
When I bought my home 8 years ago one of my friends brought a sixer of Jack Daniel's Hard Cola.
I've kept a bottle in my fridge the whole time, and he's about to close on a house next month.....
You weren't embarrassed to have it in there?
Anyone who knows me and sees that bottle in my fridge knows it has to be in there for something other than personal consumption.
Cooking? Coq au Cola?
That hard tea looks kind of good.
Seems to me like they wouldn't be able to ban using a list but instead would have to set criteria. Initially, when they went after so called assault weapons they had used a list of specific models, but it was deemed unconstitutional which is how they ended up with the retarded 2 out of 3 rule.
In CT they have a strange list of specific models, along with the "2 out of 3" rule. The strangest of all is the anti-AK rule, which outlaws all "AK-47 type" weapons. As near as I can tell, that means no weapons which use an AK action chambered in 7.62x39. So a Romanian PSL is fine because it is 7.62x54R, and a Romanian WASR-2 is fine because it is 5.45x39, but a Romanian WASR-10 is banned because it is has 7.62x39 and an AK action. I think the arbitrary vagueness is the point of the law, though. Keeps everyone scared.
Yeah, my friend left his AK with his father in South Carolina when he moved back to CT after the Navy. Which sucked, because it was hella fun.
They are going after IPAs now? If they come for DFH....
Rally around the 90-minute?
No, the 120 Minute!
I'm a simple man and I drink the simple 60 minute. (Although I am making a 90 minute clone this week - should be interesting how that turns out).
What about the 420 minute?
Espresso with grappa is so much better than Irish coffee that it ain't funny.
Sod off you greasy wop!
I blame the Whigs, and the power the lamplighter and town crier lobbies wield over them.
Next they'll be banning speedballs.
People mix coffee with their whiskey?
Only the Irish.
Yeah, when I read about the Big Mac ban (and, earlier, the soda-machines-on-public-property ban) in the Chronicle, the first thing I did was grabbed a Big Mac (and a soda). Unfortunately, I don't really like that kind of stuff.
But let's get some recs on good, caffeinated, alcoholic beverages. Irish coffee is good, rum and coke is bad, Irish car bombs are fine on occasion, J?gerbombs featured heavily in one of the worst nights of my life*, what else? I need to make a habit of remaining perfectly healthy despite ignoring the pleas of our health professionals.
A couple of stupid bitches that can't handle their liquor ruin it for everybody.
Youth is wasted on the young.
Makin' more progress on the Drug War.
The dumbest part of this ban is that it's for the benefit of people who are too young to drink legally anyway.
They're considering a similar ban in WA because a bunch of dumb twats at a frat party in BFE chugged allegedly roofied Four Loko out of cups that were suspiciously color-coded differently for males and females.
Several of them ended up at what passes for the local hospital, where everybody discovered that *shocker* partiers under 21 were drinking this shit.
So to recap, you've got some apparently deeply sheltered young women who have missed every last one of the approximately 100 "CSI" episodes and several "Veronica Mars" episodes featuring strong messages about the dangers of quaffing drinks made by unfamiliar frat boys. And the hospitalized partiers admitted they were nowhere near 21.
But let's ban the beverage. It must be the evil beverage's fault. Just look at its guilty-looking can graphics.
They hate those cans! Stay away from the cans!!
Reading this is making me thirsty. Time for some chocolate milk! And by chocolate milk, I mean mocha khalua and vanilla vodka + half-and-half. It's an ethnically-ambiguous Russian!
If only we could all hold such silly little beliefs like Jacob's.
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Geez, over two decades ago we were drinking Bacardi 151 with Jolt^ Cola.
Surprised we lived thru freshman year.
*rolls eyes*
^all the sugar, twice the caffiene.
We at MateVeza were very surprised to be included in the list of banned products; MateVeza is not currently sold in Michigan and it hardly fits the Commission's characterization (inexpensive, brightly colored can of 12% alcohol malt liquor with added caffeine).
For our reponse to the Commission, visit http://mateveza.com/home
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