Nation Building Troubles in Afghanistan
Kandahar or Can't-dahar? The Washington Post reports that nation-building is hard:
For the past year, the United States and its NATO allies have tried to build a Kandahar administration that can address residents' grievances and sway them from the Taliban. The U.S. has also embarked on a massive spending spree in order to prop up Kandahar authorities and provide basic services. But with power monopolized by the central government in Kabul, the provincial and municipal offices in southern Afghanistan's largest city are hamstrung and undermanned….
Hundreds of millions more are being pumped through United States Agency for International Development contracts to supply electricity, water, and new office buildings for Afghan officials who, in many cases, do not exist.
"Right now, the government capacity is so anemic we have to do it," said the U.S. official who, like others, was not authorized to speak for the record. "We are acting as donor and government. That's not sustainable."
Only about 40 Afghans work for the city government, out of 120 job slots, and the governor's staff faces a similar shortfall. But even these numbers are misleading, as many of those on staff serve in menial jobs such as cooks or gardeners….
The pay does little to entice. An Afghan working for the U.S.-led coalition or a foreign nonprofit can earn more than $1,000 a month; at city hall, $70. "The Afghan government cannot compete with this wartime economy," said another American official in Kandahar.
Several months ago, U.S. officials tried to circumvent the problem by hiring and paying Afghan government employees on their own. But after about a dozen were put on the payroll, a U.S. official said, the Karzai government objected and closed down the effort, saying it set a bad precedent for other provinces…..
American officials worry that new roads, power plants, or other projects might not be maintained when the U.S. begins pulling troops out of Afghanistan next July . Thrasher said community health clinics have been refurbished in Kandahar but remained unused because they could not be equipped or staffed.
"I'm sure there is trepidation: If we pulled out tomorrow, what would they do?" Thrasher said.
It is difficult to judge whether such massive investment wins the Afghan government much allegiance. With 12,000 U.S. and NATO troops in Kandahar, the collateral damage of military operations often seems to make a more indelible impression.
"The Americans brought us more security, but what have they done? They destroyed our houses, they destroyed our gardens and orchards," said Juma Khan, 70, who evacuated his family from its home in the Zhari district of Kandahar to avoid the fighting.
I wondered back in August when we were going to get out of Afghanistan.
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Now that the Republicans have power and are serious about cutting government spending we'll be out of there by this time next year.
Hahahahaha
Why can't you be just like me?
And i hear the Graveyard of Empires is particularly lovely this time of year.
"I'm sure there is trepidation: If we pulled out tomorrow, what would they do?" Thrasher said.
They'd be helpless without us!
And, besides, I might have to get a real job.
American officials worry that new roads, power plants, or other projects might not be maintained when the U.S. begins pulling troops out of Afghanistan next July.
Wait, are these roads, plants, and projects in the U.S.?
Expendable Youth
I'm not one to cut-and-run. Whether or not the current AfPak effort was smart policy, war is like poker...you're all in when you go that way. There's no getting chips back.
But the Afghan war I think is lost. It was lost when Karzai threw the election, and we let'em get away with it. On that day, the USA lost any conceivable legitimacy with the Afghan people. We just became the latest in a long-line of foreign support systems to prop up an illegitimate, nepotistic, kleptocrat. We lost the war that election day. Only option to regain credibility with the locals (they respect USMC firepower I know first hand, they don't respect us politically) is to wait it out 'till next election and then have US-MIL assets run the polling stations...which is what we should've done the first time out and we totally blew it on that count.
We lost the war when we invaded with less than 30,00 ground troops, sent the Northern Alliance "allies" to fetch Osama from Tora Bora, and announced our intention to build a democracy. Our whole outlook has been fucked up from the beginning
Amen.
There's an amazing amount of stupid on display in that WashPost article.
My theory is that almost all of the civilian and military decision makers from the Vietnam era are now retired or dead, and so a new generation has to learn the same lessons the hard way, even though you'd think they could, just possibly, read a fucking history book or two and learn it that way. Apparently not.
Wait. You mean, there were people who actually learned something from the Vietnam experience? And do you mean to imply that it was actually recorded somewhere in a book, with any reasonable kind of accuracy?
I was unaware that any of this was the actual case. From having talked to real, actual South Vietnamese people who were there at the time (which coincidentally includes the person I'm married to), the bigger half of what you can get from history books is -- shall we call it "misguided"?
In the best cases, it is misguided ignorance. But many cases are not the best.
I contend that this generation has nothing to "re" learn because, I remain convinced that Americans learned absolutely nothing from the Vietnam experience. Anybody here beg to differ with me on this little point?
Of course, I also take the position that by WW I, the US had already proven that it had no foreign policy intelligence left in its vastly wealthy little self.
To the whole idea of nation building I say this:
1) Are you really sure you even want to try it? If yes, you probably need a shrink.
2) If you're going to "build a nation", there is only one way the story line can read.
You invade, and immediately impose your own (pre-defined and well prepared) legal system on the local populace. If you want to win the proverbial "hearts and minds" part of the war, then you make very sure that your legal system is fair and just.
You then proceed to implement it without hesitation. At no time do you ask the natives their wants or opinions. If you're willing to invade their country, then you've already decided "what they want doesn't matter". Do not equivocate.
From here, as you put your pre-designed government institutions in place, you also develop a civil service training program for the natives. As they develop their skills and capabilities, you allow them to begin assuming posts within this government you've imposed. You allow them to rise as high as their ambitions and abilities will take them -- but at all times it is you the invader who establish the rules of the game.
It should have been done this way in both Afghanistan and Iraq (assuming, after you saw your shrink, you were still infected with "Let's go build a nation!" disease.)
In Iraq, in perhaps a decade or two you would have enough natives properly trained as to essentially let them take over the reins. Or perhaps, it will never happen that way at all. This is the gamble you take when you start nation building.
In Afghanistan you must be prepared for something closer to a 50+ year venture.
But that's all just fantasy. The reality is that we have a bunch of Democrats who buy into Western European "balance of power" nihilistic BS, and then we have a bunch of Republicans who are ready fight and beat up the bad guys because -- well, just because we can.
The foreign policy we have (if you insist on calling it that) is the demonic child of a great bi-partisan, Democrat-Republican cluster fuck.
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I am opposed to both legal and illegal immigration. This country is overpopulated, and 21 million Americans are out of work.