If You Don't Give Us 150 Percent Pensions, We'll Kill This Child
Ever wondered when a decline in crime rates that is now well into its second decade will produce the law enforcement version of the post-Cold War "peace dividend?"
"Never" seems to be the answer from the Sacramento, CA sheriff's deputies union. The murder rate in cash-strapped Sacto is the lowest it's been in nearly 40 years, yet when county supervisors considered slowing the growth of public safety budgets, the Sacramento County Deputy Sheriffs' Association hit back with a hilariously over the top ad featuring a girl in what looks like a Girl Scouts cap being menaced by a brawny male hand. (On the hand, she could be wearing a Kangol hat, in which case she probably brought this on herself.)
Per USA Today:
Another [ad] shows a masked man breaking through a door and asks, "Do you feel safe?"
"We felt it was necessary to grab people's attention," says Kevin Mickelson, president of the Sacramento County Deputy Sheriffs' Association. He says 122 deputies were laid off last year and more cuts would make it "impossible to do our job."
Chairman Roger Dickinson of the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors, says the county's $180 million budget gap means "literally no operation … is going to be spared reductions." Although reducing the number of deputies might slow response times, violent crime is down, he says.
The campaign appears to have worked. While the Golden State capital has been going through serious contortions to close its budget gap, most of the proposed reductions for public safety budgets ended up getting nixed through the use of funny money. From the Sacramento Bee:
The cuts could have been much worse, but the board decided to use financial reserves, money transfers and one-time funds to offset the shortfall. The last-minute maneuvering dropped the deficit from $122 million at the start of the week to just under $100 million by the time the supervisors voted Thursday afternoon.
The restorations went almost entirely to public safety agencies, which got $22.5 million of the $23.1 million the board opted to use in reserves and one-time funds. The board funneled $17.9 million of that to the Sheriff's Department.
Even so, the Sheriff's Department's budget will be $20 million less than what Sheriff John McGinness had said would be necessary to avoid cuts. Nevertheless, McGinness said Thursday he is optimistic that he won't have to lay off many deputies; he said he's hoping to garner more than $20 million in federal stimulus funds and that the deputies union will agree to additional contract concessions.
In a sense, this is giving the people what they want. Policing is one public expenditure for which there is always broad support. Yet even the county's candidates for sheriff agree that costs for maintaining the deputies' lifestyle -- and particularly the gaping maw of pension payments -- have to be reduced. And, officially at any rate, scaring the bejeezus out of people is not part of the job description for California peace officers…yet.
Thanks to Mish Shedlock.
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Liberty will not prevail if it must consider how it will play in Peoria.
So true.
Decided it was time to see my name in orange.
But will it get them off their tractors?
So you're the robot programmed to underestimate "Middle America?"
Great alt text on the Lampoon pic.
Thanks for alerting me to that.
Agreed...one of the best ever.
totally
Is it just me or do the police and mafia seem to use the same tactics to get more money?
"Awfully nice house you got here... be a shame if some violent rapists broke in and murdered your whole family."
It's not just you.
ITS A TRAP...whoops, missed who i was responding to.
Another [ad] shows a masked man breaking through a door and asks, "Do you feel safe?"
Not really. Which kind of makes me wonder what the fuck I'm paying you so much for.
Another [ad] shows a masked man breaking through a door and asks, "Do you feel safe?"
A: "It depends if you're a cop or someone who only wants my money."
Another [ad] shows a masked man breaking through a door and asks, "Do you feel safe?"
*click*, *boom*
Do you feel safe now, you extortionist pieces of shit?
Quite so - sort of the public school teacher argument. "Sure, we don't seem to be doing our jobs all that well (although in the example above, they seem to be working themselves out of a possible scare tactic situation) but if you don't throw a @#$% load of money at us...it'll get worse!!!"
Less crime = need for more Police Officers
More crime = need for more Police Officers
What's the problem here (says PO Union spokesman)
Ugh.
I've never understood why public sector unions need to be protected from the taxpayer, and I don't see why law enforcement should be allowed to spend tax dollars asking for more tax dollars.
May the voters smite them with yet more cuts.
Not gonna happen. But this is:
Amazingly, Congress is trying to Force Union Contract Rules like this onto States and Localities
The New York ? New Jersey Port Authority (NYNJPA) union contract with the NYNJPA's police union provides that officers suspended with and "without pay" will still be paid for unearned overtime during their suspension.
Amazingly, Harry Reid and congress are trying right now to force this type of workplace lunacy onto states and localities through the Police Fire Fighter Forced Unionism bills (S. 3194 & H.R. 413). If passed this will bring union officials one step closer toward mandating forced unionism for every state and local government employee. Take Action now and let congress know that you oppose this expansion of forced unionism through federal fiat.
The New York Posts' Carl Campanile writes:
Port Authority cops have an unbelievable perk that other workers can only dream of ? they can collect overtime for not working.
The bizarre benefit applies to officers suspected of misconduct who are suspended with pay and later cleared or found guilty of an infraction carrying a penalty that's short of dismissal. Suspended officers can claim overtime if no formal charges are filed within 120 days.
The theoretical overtime these cops would have made during their suspensions is based on a formula in their union contract. [see video]
According to the contract, if an officer suspended with or without pay is not dismissed, then they will receive overtime for the period that they were suspended without pay using the formula at:
http://biggovernment.com/dloos.....me-missed/
Port Authority cops have an unbelievable perk that other workers can only dream of ? they can collect overtime for not working.
OK. It's official. We are now living on Bizarro Earth.
Yeah, the NC and VA laws against public employees collectively bargaining will be overturned if that passes, and it looks fairly likely.
Do you think they would challenge the law in court? Because if it passes, they should.
Force Union Contract Rules
Too bad it wasnt "Force Union Contract Unification"
Fuc-U? Anybody? Cmon, one laugh, thats all I'm askin for.
FUC'R works well enough though, i spose 🙁
The theoretical overtime these cops would have made during their suspensions is based on a formula in their union contract.
But of course.
You obviously never worked in a UAW facility.
Why do public sector employees even need unions? I thought the job of the unions was to protect the noble working man from the evil greedy capitalists.
Does that make it clearer?
as a cop union member myself, i'd say the job of unions is to advocate for LABOR.
i'll be the first to admit that unions, whether they be cop., firefighter, or auto worker, don't advocate for "THE GOOD(tm)" . they advocate for their MEMBERs
duh.
and of course we get some ridiculously choice benefits.
and of course, sometimes the desires of the union and the management are in concordance to make extra-fuckupedness.
the perfect example is physical fitness requirements. the union won't cede to them because it's an additional burden on the officers, and thus would be bargainable for compensation. and of course if the dept. required fitness, they would need to pay us to workout DURING our shifts , probably at least 5 or 6 hrs a week (to include shower time, etc.).
management doesn't want the added expense, too. so, of course we are left with the reality of metric assloads of incredibly out of shape/obese/physically weak cops who are
1) more likely ot have to resort to excessive force when they lose control
2) more likely to need, and even abuse sick leave (as federal studies show)
3) more likely to incur civil liability on the dept.
4) more likely to have to use a higher level of force when a more fit officer could effectively use a lower level of force, thus increasing injuries to suspects, and frequently themselves
5) look like shit
6) be less capable of helping people in distress (my agency recently had an officer save somebody from drowning. the guy was a former marine and in phenomenal shape and the average cop would have watched the guy drown.. and been under no obligation to help the person of course, except to call for the fire dept. and their boat)
heck, the dept. can't even require a fit for duty test to somebody that APPEARS grossly obese because they would get sued in a hearbeat by the union... and lose.
i LOVE the benefits my union has contracted for, but i don't pretend for a second that the union benefits the common good.
public safety agencies, which got $22.5 million of the $23.1 million the board opted to use in reserves and one-time funds.
Reserves, one-time funds (sale of assets?), and $20M in stimulus. How do I spell structural deficit? You're looking at it. Those deputies better figure out a new career by next year b/c they are finito santiago.
Those deputies better figure out a new career by next year b/c they are finito santiago.
Nah, there's plenty of other lucrative employment out there for guys who want to fuck people up.
WHAT?! Extortion isnt legal?! What the name for when you do it legally then/ Shit, cause i aint lookin for a new jeorb!
And, officially at any rate, scaring the bejeezus out of people is not part of the job description for California peace officers...yet
Citation please?
"To Protect and Serve", see, bitch? It's right there on the Badge, now get back to suckin me off, or I'm going to rape you, then shoot your dog.
Another classic negotiating ad, this one from the Escondido Police.
Police in El Reno, OK tazer 86 year-old, bed ridden grandmother.
Is it illegal to setup your house to explode on unauthorized entry?
The first time I saw the "servicewithconcern.com" address at the bottom of the poster, I read it as "servicewithcoercion.com"
A little closer to the truth.
The Newspeak Dictionary has noted them as synonyms.
BUT OBAMA WANTS ME TO PAY FOR TEH NUE DICKTIONARIES?!
Not my kid. Kill away.
If you do want my kid you might want to bring some well armed friends. I don't call 911.
If you do want my kid you might want to bring some well armed friends.
Check. got any dogs we need to shoot about?....I mean, KNOW, about? (I get thoes words mixed up all the time, my bad.)
One Schnauzer. But don't worry about him. He has been training as a suicide bomber, there won't be any need to shoot him.
All i read was "bomber". Now its clear the we need to drop a bunker buster before breaking into your house.
We'll get less shit to sell, but terrorism is Bad, so FUCK YO COUCH NIGGA!
THEY SHOULDA NEVA GAVE YOU HMMMMs MONEY!
Should I paint the address on the roof?
I'm just waiting till Obama declares libertarians terrorists. We're gonna have a kickass party, right up till they drop the nuke on the party-boat.
YEAH! Get on the boat, you're paranoid if you think it will be nuked! Besides, they wouldn't waste the money on nuking it, when conventional explosives or an "engineering mishap" can do the job liability free, and for a lot less money.
Robc's law: it WAS much better that "SWAT-Fuck" said that, than if i had said it.
In anyevent, yeah, lets get all the libertarians in one spot, in international waters.
Worst that could happen is pirates, or Israel confiscating our weapons.
Unintentional humor, but it is hilarious when you can get "all the libertarians" on a boat. We are such a threat to the status quo!
(thanks but no thanks, I'll be happy when I'm the only commenter left on this site, because everyone else thought it was a good idea to get on the party boat.)
(And when its just Me Vs Max......thats when the real Shit Goes Down.)
But... but...
Keep thinking you have anything worth saying Shrike.
And thats coming from an asshole who makes simpsons and startrek references.
That's whats beating you....feel ashamed, very ashamed.
Name one.
Perform a public survice, kill a deputy.
Federal stimulus funds? Seems like using these for a recurring expense is kind of a bad idea unless the plan is to build dependency on the Federal Government. Hey, what could go wrong?
Bet there's not one Sacramento County sheriff's deputies who after scamming overtime earns less than a $100,000 annually.
The fit hit the shan in conservative Orange County California when it was revealed that the county's sheriff deputies were collecting paychecks averaging in excess of $120,000 annually.
Very well done. The only think which can work with the public employees unions is the two little words: "Eff you!"
Don't know about Sac County, but in Riverside County the Sheriff is not coming unless there is a body in the street leaking fluids.
Not surprising that George W. Bush's trickle-down economics are hitting the cities finally, and hurting them in every way possible. Every crime that happens in Sacramento from now on, sue to a low budget, is directly the fault of George W. Bush, and the victims and their families should sue Bush to get some of the money he got from Haliburton and Big Oil while killing the American economy.
I'm still not seeing what exactly Bush did to "kill the economy." You just speak in hyperbole. I'm not saying that Bush did a good job. I'm not even saying that he wasn't at least a little corrupt. However, you can't just live in your own little bizzaro world where everything bad that happens is Bush's fault. Also, liberal economics is "trickle down" economics, too. They just don't call it that.
Dear Vinny B.,
Get a life!!!