California's indefatigable legislators have come up with another doozy:
Basically, the measure would deem violence against homeless people or their property as a hate crime for civil litigation.
Assemblywoman Bonnie Lowenthal said her proposal would crack down on beatings, stabbings and shootings that target an extremely vulnerable population.
"There is just a tremendous amount of violence perpetrated against homeless people because they are easy prey," Lowenthal said.
The measure, Assembly Bill 2706, would add homelessness to civil rights protections for victims of violence based on race, color, religion, sex, marital status, political affiliation, sexual orientation, or involvement in a labor dispute.
This is a textbook example of criminal justice mission creep. Once you have a special category of punishment-enhancement, then all you need to do is shop around for "easy prey," even if the attacks on them have nothing to do with targeted "hate," however defined.
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Putting aside the patronizing idiocy of this, since the vast majority of crimes against the homeless are committed by the homeless, how is this going to help, exactly?
civil rights protections for victims of violence based on race, color, religion, sex, marital status, political affiliation, sexual orientation, involvement in a labor dispute...
Nah, a lot of violent psychopaths love beating, torturing, and killing their victims.
What we need is "love" crimes legislation for all those criminals who love what they're doing.
No, lots of them have personal property such as bicycles, shopping carts, clothes, and even pets. What they lack are real property (real estate), good hygiene, and effective lobbyists.
If we can make every crime a hate crime, we'll have come full circle.
I figger we're only about halflway around the track, but we can get back to where we started with bigger betterer hate crime legislation.
Really, let's expand the categories of hate crime victims till everybody is included.
You robbed him because he looked rich? - Hate crime.
Because she was small? - Hate crime.
Because he was drunk? Hate crime.
Because she's an irritating loudmouth? - Hate crime.
add homelessness to civil rights protections for victims of violence based on race, color, religion, sex, marital status, political affiliation, sexual orientation, or involvement in a labor dispute.
IF EVERYTHING IS A PRIORITY, NOTHING IS A PRIORITY.
What's the big deal? There are different motives for crimes, and our system of criminal justice has always taken motive into account when judging the seriousness of a crime.
As union members have never been violent. Nope, never in their history. Nor did any SEIU goons recently beat up an African-American Tea Partier. (Come to think of it, that could have been two hate crimes, if unions weren't a favored class.) Nor did union thugs beat up a couple after a fundraiser for Bobby Jindal.
Of course, Dan T loves thugs, so long as they're cracking skulls for equality.
I love to see them flail. I'd feel pity if he hadn't reproduced. That there is at least one of his foul spawn out in the world means his idiocy will spread.
I'm just spitballin' here but my guess is that the majority of hobo assaults are perpetrated by other hobo's... does that make a hobo who bottles another hobo for his thunderbird guilty of a hate crime?
(facepalm)
More Democrat horse hockey.
Putting aside the patronizing idiocy of this, since the vast majority of crimes against the homeless are committed by the homeless, how is this going to help, exactly?
Soon, being against measures like this, will in and of themselves be hate crimes.
Shut the fuck up, hater.
You are guilty of a hate crime. Report immediately to your local reeducation center.
No need - we've already knocked down his door, shot his dog(s), and have him face down on the floor - we'll take it from here.
What's with the picture of Nolte?
A cow puked on him after grazing in a flower garden.
The cow is being detained and questioned at this time.
Down & Out in Beverly Hills reference
So I can't set them on fire anymore?
Of course you can. Unless you think this tips the risk / reward too far towards the former.
I just stopped by to pick up a Reason.
What I really hate is losertarian twits babbling on about hate crimes.
Hello Shit Facktory!
civil rights protections for victims of violence based on race, color, religion, sex, marital status, political affiliation, sexual orientation, involvement in a labor dispute...
...height, weight, accent, shoe size, IQ, spicy-food tolerance...
Am I a protected class, since EVERYBODY hates middle-class White males?
I guess the more important question would be, who can you violently assault without it being a "hate" crime?
Dello. And any of his white friends.
who can you violently assault without it being a "hate" crime?
Depends on who signed the raid warrant.
Scabs and customers during a strike.
Marital status?
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: ALL VIOLENT CRIMES ARE HATE CRIMES.
Nah, a lot of violent psychopaths love beating, torturing, and killing their victims.
What we need is "love" crimes legislation for all those criminals who love what they're doing.
I hate the homeless so much. They have no personal property. What can be more unlibertarian?
No, lots of them have personal property such as bicycles, shopping carts, clothes, and even pets. What they lack are real property (real estate), good hygiene, and effective lobbyists.
or involvement in a labor dispute
NOW we get to the meat of the bill. No doubt that it won't apply to union members themselves.
But opening someone's face up with a nail-studded two-by-four is just part workers defending their rights.
I love when the union tards throw out the "you can thank unions for the fact that you have a paid vacation" line.
That should read "or involved on the labor side of a labor dispute".
No way, no how does a striking union worker get charged for a hate crime when he throws rocks at a company truck.
If we can make every crime a hate crime, we'll have come full circle.
I figger we're only about halflway around the track, but we can get back to where we started with bigger betterer hate crime legislation.
Really, let's expand the categories of hate crime victims till everybody is included.
You robbed him because he looked rich? - Hate crime.
Because she was small? - Hate crime.
Because he was drunk? Hate crime.
Because she's an irritating loudmouth? - Hate crime.
This is America, dammit. We can do it.
Sort of a variation of one of the Iron Laws:
If everything is a priority, nothing is a priority.
You may have something there.
add homelessness to civil rights protections for victims of violence based on race, color, religion, sex, marital status, political affiliation, sexual orientation, or involvement in a labor dispute.
IF EVERYTHING IS A PRIORITY, NOTHING IS A PRIORITY.
Appy polly loggies, R C.
So union thugs are a protected class but not me?
What's the big deal? There are different motives for crimes, and our system of criminal justice has always taken motive into account when judging the seriousness of a crime.
No, they've always taken intent into account, not motive. There's a big difference.
when you think about it, leaving some groups out of the protected categories is kinda hateful itself and should be punished as a hate crime.
I hate to do this, but ... +1
and you get a....wait for it... +2
and I LOVED doing that
And this: involvement in a labor dispute.
GAAAAAAH!
Goddammit, this pisses me off. For some reason I assume union thuggery is exempt from this provision.
You're right, how can we not allow our corporate masters to not kick some worker ass to keep them in their place?
Good point, because prior to the enactment of hate crime laws employers were completely free to kick the shit out of their employees.
As union members have never been violent. Nope, never in their history. Nor did any SEIU goons recently beat up an African-American Tea Partier. (Come to think of it, that could have been two hate crimes, if unions weren't a favored class.) Nor did union thugs beat up a couple after a fundraiser for Bobby Jindal.
Of course, Dan T loves thugs, so long as they're cracking skulls for equality.
I love to see them flail. I'd feel pity if he hadn't reproduced. That there is at least one of his foul spawn out in the world means his idiocy will spread.
He reproduced? Ugh. Worst news I've heard all day.
You're right, how can we not allow our corporate masters to not kick some worker ass to keep them in their place?
So who is kicking the asses of public service union members, teachers union members, police union members, etc.? Who are they being protected from?
Is filming a bum fight a hate crime?
Feeding a troll should be.
That is hate speech
our system of criminal justice has always taken motive into account when judging the seriousness of a crime.
Exactly- so what is gained by this sort of political grandstanding?
Go drink your bleach.
Aww, come on, Matt!
Going after something stupid proposed by a California legislator is picking the low-hanging fruit, isn't it?
Sorta like accusing Congress of being fiscally irresponsible.
Don't forget the Two Minutes' Hate at 1200 EDT.
Re: Picture of Nolte.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I looked like when I entered rehab in 2008.
That'll keep ya from drinkin'!
This is so tedious. Why not just pass a law stating who isn't covered by thought, er, hate crimes and be done with it?
Reminds me of an Onion headline:
"Mom who murdered infant gets reduced sentence under 'love crime' law."
I'm just spitballin' here but my guess is that the majority of hobo assaults are perpetrated by other hobo's... does that make a hobo who bottles another hobo for his thunderbird guilty of a hate crime?
Of course not. A white guy who curb-stomps an black guy after calling him a nigger commits a hate crime; a black guy who does the same does not.
Nope. Be the same as if a Gangster Disciple capped a Blood. It's not hateful if the perp and victim are both in the same protected group.
[T]he measure would deem violence against homeless people or their property as a hate crime for civil litigation.
That is particularly idiotic. Anyone picking up what they think is random trash could accidentally be committing a hate crime.
I fucking hate trash!
We wouldn't be having these discussions if the US had strict ASBOs in place to nip this sort of behavior in the bud at a young age.