Alcohol

Brother, Can You Spare a Dime to Pay the Tax on My Beer in MD?

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10 cents gets you a whole beer in 1911

Just as Virginia is starting to loosen its death grip on liquor sold in the commonwealth, the Maryland legislature is considering a 10 cent tax on every drink sold in the state.

That's $2.40 on a case a beer. Of course, the tax will hit buyers of terrible cheap beer hardest, since the same 10 cents will get tacked on to a crappy can of PBR or a fancy bottle of Chimay Belgian Ale. Maryland is facing a $2 billion shortfall, and hopes to snag about $200 million with the tax.

The legislature—which failed to pass a 5-cent alcohol tax last year—is following the time honored principle of legislatures everywhere: If at first you don't succeed, tax, tax again. It is, however, an election year so tax increases may face a tough fight.

(Baseball historical counter-factual to ponder: What if this tax had come to Cleveland in 1974? Ten Cent Beer Night might never had come to pass.)

Come on over to Virginia when you get thirsty, Marylanders. We're happy to have you.

Via Jacob Grier.

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  1. I, for one, welcome the return of the 40 oz. bottle.

    1. This is exactly what will happen. Here’s a bit of trivia. A long time ago, the British had a tax on newspapers. The tax was per page. Viola! The huge sheets of traditional newspapers were born.

      1. They also had a tax on windows and people had them bricked over.

        1. Hence the term “daylight robbery”.

          1. I didn’t know that origin. Funny how things pan out?

            1. If the disheartening idea of that tax can also make Marylanders want to drink ten times more, they’ve just balanced their budget! download buried | download legend of the guardians

      2. wow, this British are crazy, taxes per page? 🙂

        Anyway, too much taxes like always. Drinks on me!

  2. But how can Virginia possibly absorb all the booze refugees?

  3. If the disheartening idea of that tax can also make Marylanders want to drink ten times more, they’ve just balanced their budget!

  4. That’s $2.40 on a case a beer. Of course, the tax will hit buyers of terrible cheap beer hardest, since the same 10 cents will get tacked on to a crappy can of PBR or a fancy bottle of Chimay Belgian Ale. Maryland is facing a $2 billion shortfall, and hopes to snag about $200 million with the tax.

    The fact that the tax will affect the competition generated by the cheaper brands thus helping the more expensive ones being purely coincidental *wink* *wink*

    1. who says PBR is crappy?!?!

      i take offense, KMW

  5. mmmmm….Chimay Grande Reserve….aka liquid crack.

    1. Orval Trappist Ale is also very good. And I think it’s Goose Island that has a Pere Jacques that tastes like Chimay red label but at nearly half the price.

      1. Who can afford Orval in the USA? Isn’t it perverse when it is cheaper in over-taxed Europe.

        What a great beer and one with few imitations here in the USA.

        I think something from Nantucket came close. No not that. Maybe Whale’s Tail? But expensive. Maybe equally so?

  6. If you think Chimay is fancy you got issues – Belgium version of Tecate as far as I can tell.

    1. That’s an insult to Tecate.

    2. Chimay makes excellent beer within its categories. If you are not into what they make, you are a beer snob.

      To compare what Chimay makes to Tecate can’t even be snark. It can only mean you had a shitty ending to an affair with a Trappist monk.

  7. 10 cents gets you a whole beer in 1911

    Florida in the 1980s: Publix Supermarkets sold Milwaukee’s Best for as little as (on sale) 99 cents a 6 pack.18 cents a can with tax

    Working briefly in Wilkes Barre Pennsylvania during the early 90s I drank some local draft-only beer at 35 cents a glass (full price not happy hour) in bars.

    Now here in GA PBR costs $9 a 12 of bottles.Your typical “beer snob” swill is $9 a 6 pack.Drinking in bars is a reckless destruction of wealth.It’s like hyperinflation hit at the turn of the Millennium.

    1. I thought it was supporting small business.

  8. 10 cents gets you a whole beer in 1911

    10 cents and YOUR SOUL!

    ? Faust joke!

    1. Still too soon…

  9. How dare you refer to PBR as crappy! The only problem with it is that now all the asshole hipsters drink it to show how impoverished and ironic they are.

    Fortunately Olympia, Hamms and, Rainier are perfectly fine substitutes.

    1. The original axis of evil.

      1. Rainier is horrible. I’ve stayed away from Olympia since trying Rainier. It’s also really low alcohol content.

        1. Rainier is horrible. J F K(Ch)rist, Epi. Of course it is. Bottled water from Chad is its real competition.

          I used to see their lame ass TV commercials growing up in 19 state Idaho (and Oly’s and Hamm’s too). Bullshit in a can.

          In Texas now, I have Lone Star and Shiner. Not a mutherfucking hop in sight. Makes for an economical beer, tho’. Wow!

          And not a mutherfucking Liberal in sight to call for regulation on their total fucking bullshit false advertising (that there was ever a hop involved in the beer.)

          Retarded fucking pseudos need that help. Tehy’d haven’t a fucking clue what’s tasty if the good old government didn’t tell them.

          Too bad they don’t know how good Texas Toast is: Donderooooo Sperm on Wheat. Good Cracker! Yes Ma’am!

    2. I’m with you on Rainier, but not on Hamms, even at $5.50 for a pitcher at Linda’s happy hour. Hipsters be damned though, it’s not going to stop me from enjoying my PBR! That would be like not listening to Opeth because they got ridiculously huge, they still write great music.

      1. Linda’s golden shower. Yer bad. Not mine. Enjoy yer PBR. Who ever said beer had to be beer? Not me.

      2. I started drinking PBR about ten years ago, at first, for a little nostalgia. It has full beer flavor with a tingling burn. Everything else is sour and squeamish, kind of like the people who poke fun at Pabst. I always ask people if they want a beer. They say “Hell no.” I say “Good. More for me.”
        We fear what we don’t understand. The “crappy” adjective has bruised my fragile sensibilities, so I’m going to drink a few to soften the blow. 🙂

    3. The resident beer snobs will be along shortly to set you straight.

      1. We are here. If I have to drink PBR when I move to VA, I will just stay in MD, as the selection of fine locally brewed beers available in MD is not a disappointment. I can walk to 2 breweries from where I live that have a good selection of ever changing seasonal brews.

      2. A day late. Not to set you straight. Just to opine. Some chicks think eating her bitche’s shit and barfing it on her is a sign of love.

        Your beer preference is all yours. Mickey’s, for example, are pretty awesome: high alcohol, easy to open when seriously fucked up, relatively cheap. What’s not to like?

  10. pfft I drive four blocks to buy beer and liquor in DC already to avoid patonizing the Montgomery County liquor store a half a block from my place.

    That’s right, Montgomery County, MD has a government monopoly on liquor. Sometimes this state is just too stupid for glorious me.

    1. I’ll be buying my brew at the Pentagon City Costco from now on.

      First the 5 cent bag tax in DC, which I am ahead 5-1 (I had to get a bag one time) and should this pass, June 30 will be the last time I buy beer in MD. Sorry shopkeepers, but you better get your lobbying machine cranked up to fight this thing.

      I’ll be damned if I’m going to have this stinking state pry one more thin dime from me, if I can at all help it.

    2. Liquor, Cable, MC just loves its monopolies.

      I think Standard Oil still has an office in the county.

  11. Come on over to Virginia when you get thirsty, Marylanders. We’re happy to have you.

    When you head for home, you’ll find a gauntlet of sobriety checkpoints and searches for illicit booze smuggling.

    1. Back years ago KS used to tax the hell out liquor so people in the KC area would go over MO to buy liquor. KRS agents would stake out liquor stores, spot a KS plate then bust them when they (like my mother)crossed the sate line.

      One of the large liquor chain owners in MO started having vagrancy warrants out against the KRS agent.

  12. The booze store on the army base next door has beer by the gallon on tap. They put it in a milk jug with a screw top and off ya go. Yuengling goes for about 8 bucks a gallon.

    1. Yuengling is 14.99 a case across the street from where I live here in MD. It is decent beer if you don’t have money for real beer. Beats Budweiser and Miller hands down.

      1. ‘Beats Budweiser and Miller hands down.’

        So does water. Sucks to live where you do.

    2. Sorry, but buying my beer from the local army base doesn’t sound like a great alternative.

  13. Has anyone figured out that 10 cents per drink will encourage everyone to order larger drinks?

    1. Unintended consequences? Nah. Never. No Way. They never happen. Nope.

  14. Fortunately Olympia, Hamms and, Rainier are perfectly fine substitutes.

    For what?

    1. For pretending that US prohibition hasn’t fucked with the average US citizen’s appreciation of what an alcoholic beverage should taste like.

  15. Alcohol-infused urine?

    1. I thought that term was now official slang for Coors light?

  16. Does this mean that Marylanders will become Virginia’s Mexicans?

  17. Alcohol-infused urine?

    You rang?

    1. Reminds me of Meister Brau. God, that was some cheap swill.

  18. Does this mean that Marylanders will become Virginia’s Mexicans?

    We already are. I’ve heard of people shopping for tobacco by the carton at stores near where I-66 hits U.S. 15 (and 29, but 66 hits 29 a lot.) Couldn’t say, but they speak even more highly of the Wawa than the Sheetz, these people, though that little VA sliver across the bridge on 17, while higher-priced, is considerably more convenient… and cop free in ways the 340 place isn’t.

    For any serious beer purchases, because of the Montgomery, MD statist liquor things noted above, I’ll typically hit a Total Wine in VA… usually the one near Dulles Airport… after I’ve put my wife on a plane somewhere.

    Really don’t recommend driving across the border to drink, though.

    /Even before this tax, the bar scene in MD was so pathetic, I pretty much just go to NY to get hammered (for “business”), maybe getting a beer or two beforehand at the chain brewpub near me to remind my liver we’re Irish.

    1. to remind my liver we’re Irish

      +1

  19. I just hope that when we Murlanders move to Virginia to avoid the 10 cents tax per 12oz of beer, that we don’t manage to get a $3000 speeding ticket. And I will tell you by experience, all Murlanders WILL get one within 3 days of hypothetical move since the only speed limit Murlanders know is ‘drive as fast as you fucking can no matter what the risk of life or how many times you have to switch lanes, and even if it means you will miss your exit by 2 miles’, unless it is raining, then just drive really slow like you are on massive doses of oxycontin. Let’s see, $3000 speeding ticket, that’s equivalent to 30,000 beers. Um, thanks for the offer.

  20. Anheuser-Busch sold a Faust beer?

    I’m trying to visualize the scenario: A learned scholar in Germany sells his soul in exchange for the greatest pleasures the world has to offer . . . and Mephistopheles offers him some cheap-ass American beer?

    At least Faust wouldn’t be tempted to say, ‘oh, stay a while, thou art so fair!’

  21. This is the sort of thing the Chads and Tonys like. Fuckers.

  22. Will there be a similar tax on homebrewing supplies?

    My gut tells me it’s just a matter of time…

    1. I was just thinking, it’s been awhile since I’ve been to see the fine folks at Maryland Homebrew.

      1. Better stock up on hops and malt, just to be on the safe side.

        One can just envision a 21st century version of Eliot Ness-type alcohol-tax cops…

    2. A tax? nah. we’ll just ban homebrewing. It’s all dangerous anyway, what with overpressurized kegs and stuff.

      Love,
      Chony Morris

      1. That wouldn’t surprise me. Bringing back old-fashioned revenooers, that sounds right up Obama’s Alley.

      2. AND beer contributes to global warming!

  23. When I attended UF, there was a bar called the Park (bar + hot tubs). I think it was Thursday night that they had $0.05 beer. I’m sure it was the Beast or some other swill, but it was $0.05! That bar alone probably ruined my chances for a Nobel Prize in Physics,

    1. And of course, you could get a short beer for a nickel in 1973 at The Rusty Pelican in Denver.

      1. Why, back in MY day, a man could get a bottle of whiskey, bullets for his gun, a month’s worth of coffee and food, new shoes for his horse, a bale of tobacco, and a whore… for five bucks, and STILL have pocket change, by cracky!

    2. When I was in school in the late 80’s/early 90’s, one of the campus shitholes had penny pitcher night. There was a $5 cover, but still well worth it (I guess).

      1. Too many of you stole the $5 cover to sleep with on cold nights on your urine- and sperm- stained mattress and you ruined cheap shitty beer for the rest of us forever.

        BTW, Thanks,

        j

    3. probably ruined my chances for a Nobel Prize in Physics

      Check your mail, i bet the prize is in there already.

      1. I got a Nobel, so it’s a sure bet they’ll give one to anyone!

      2. It was in the box of ‘Freakies’. The award looks a lot like Boss Moss.

  24. The Free State

  25. every beer thread is ruined by the name-dropping “look-at-me”-isms of our resident alleged beer “snobs”. God, shaddup already.

    1. It’s like those dumb fucking domino’s commercials where new york argues with california about who’s pizza is better.

      You’re both idiots arguing about pizza! STFU and get back in the kitchen!

    2. Actually, TAO, it’s interesting to see how many beer fans there are on hit n run. You’re being a goddam snob by implying that if you don’t think my hopless beer is awesome you are an asshole. I call bullshit on your anti-conoisseur snobism.

  26. Come on over to Virginia when you get thirsty, Marylanders.

    No self-respecting Marylander would lower himself — unless he’s from PG county.

  27. Wow now that is some pretty funny stuff dude!

    RT
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  28. They should just pass a special millionaires tax on the Baltimore Ravens to raise money.

  29. Maryland needs the money because when O’Malley came in and stuck it to the rich with taxes they all said f*** it and moved away.

    I’m sure this will solve it! (rolls eyes)

    1. 1. Tax the rich
      2. the rich leave
      3. tax the poor
      4. ?????
      5. Profit.

  30. The booze store on the army base next door has beer by the gallon on tap. They put it in a milk jug with a screw top and off ya go.

    There was a place in Tallahassee, Fl., right near FSU that used to do this (early 90’s), only with swill beer. It was $3 a gallon.

    I also remember the ABC there having “Texas Light” on sale for $5.50 a case once. I bought about ten or so. It was actually drinkable if you left it in the freezer for 45 minutes – beer slushies!

    1. Penguin ‘baked’ on beer slushies. Great visual. Cheers, mate.

  31. Rainier is horrible.

    I distinctly recall a “nose” astonishingly reminiscent of diesel fuel.

  32. As previously mentioned, Montgomery County Maryland has their own liquor stores. Because there are no businesses that the Gov’t can’t get involved in. The idiots in the County gov’t were proud to point out that the county had the lowest per-capita liquor consumption of the state. Of course thats because the lousy prices and service in the county-owned liquor stores it forced customers to go to privately owned stores in adjacent counties (and DC and VA). I’m sure the 10 cent tax will also lower beer consumption in MD but coincidentally increase beer purchases in DC and VA.

  33. Check my math; I was a little drunk when I commented.

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