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Democrats Support Low Taxes (For Unions)

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Looks like Democrats are finding tax hikes aren't so great when they fall on the backs of primarily Democratic constituents:

More than half of the Democrats in the House have signed on to a letter denouncing a key element of the Senate Finance Committee's health care legislation as labor unions draw a line in the sand on paying for reform.

The Democrats are attacking a plan to finance expanded health care by taxing expensive health insurance plans. The plan, sometimes cast as a tax on "Cadillac" plans, would in fact include the health care plans of many public employees and union members and has triggered a revolt from Obama's labor supporters and their many allies on the Hill.

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  1. “Cadillac” plans?

    RACIST!!

    1. Imagine if they were called Pontiac plans….

    2. ChrisH, it didn’t say ‘Pink Cadillac’ plans.

      *ducks*

  2. You just can’t make this stuff up.

  3. Makes sense. The idea of health care reform that appeals to its advocates is that someone else is paying for it. When you become that “someone else,” it suddenly seems less appealing.

  4. Motherfuckers.

    They say they are for higher taxes, but they LIE. Just like that fucker Obama.

  5. I’m getting really, really sick of the unions. They have their fingers in everything from the auto bailouts to trade war with China to this (though in this case, the infighting is good), yet they are smaller and smaller every year. I’m so glad we have a president who will do anything for the unions, no matter how stupid.

  6. I feel that a Nelson Munz “ha ha” is in order.

  7. I feel it’s time for Obama to reconsider that “deficit neutral” healthcare reform pledge. Legacies ain’t cheap, Mr. President.

    And let’s face it; neither are Obama pledges set in stone.

  8. Meanwhile, comments have been enabled on Or, to paraphrase the Singularity post.

  9. Meanwhile, comments have been enabled on the Singularity post.

  10. Well, if they do a narrowly crafted tax exemption for public employees and unions, we could very well see that violent revolution after all.

  11. Remember, Jerry: It isn’t a lie if you believe it’s true.

  12. Those people *earned* their health insurance! They slaved away for years under the iron fist of oppressive capitalist oligarchs, for a pittance. A PITTANCE, goddammit! And now, you want to tax the fruits of their labor?

    It’s an outrage.

  13. “We will fight pretty doggedly attempts to tax benefits because we’ve paid for those benefits over the years ? we’ve forgone wage increases, pension increases, days off and everything else to get those medical benefits,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka told POLITICO recently.

    SEE?

  14. Well, if the unions are going to blow up the revenue side of this abomination, and/or increase the visible special pleading that delegitimizes the whole package, thereby decreasing the likelihood of it passing, I say good on ’em.

  15. if they do a narrowly crafted tax exemption for public employees and unions,

    more people will sign up to be those people.

    There already aren’t enough of us left who aren’t those people to throw any kind of revolution.

    Good times.

  16. Um, I don’t belong to a union or anything, but I’ve forgone wage increases, pension increases, days off and everything else to get my medical benefits as well. What do I win?

    1. Bend over and find out.

  17. Under the plan offered by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), beginning in 2013, insurers would be taxed for any family plan that costs more than $21,000 a year and any plan for individuals that costs more than $8,000.

    Tax the issuer of the policy?
    How the fuck is that supposed to work?
    What the fuck is it supposed to accomplish? They aren’t trying to *hide* the fact that they are taxing the recipient, are they? They’d never do that.

  18. An E-1 (buck private, $1,399.50 a month base pay) get’s 100% with no deductable coverage for spouse and kiddies. This includes everything from aspirin to open heart surgery (but not abortions unless to protect the …).

    She is not taxed for it.

  19. Under the plan offered by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), beginning in 2013, insurers would be taxed for any family plan that costs more than $21,000 a year and any plan for individuals that costs more than $8,000.

    Including the plan that insures Congress?

  20. Dems discover Union employees have the best healthcare and wages. Hmm… it stuns me that Democrats actually believe their talking points about the downtrodden ‘workin’ man’. I have to assume they believe their own talking points because they ‘discover’ this shit months into the process.

  21. Could someone please give me a numerical breakdown here? I want to know what percentage of workers in the U.S. are represented by unions… immediately followed by a report of just how much legislation is coming out of the Obama white house that’s influenced and underwritten by unions.

  22. Is there any reason why the mentally handicapped…, I mean UAW workers from the ancient isle of Crete, err, I mean isle of Michiana, midwest isle of cretin inbreds, I mean occupationally challenged, should not receive a tax advantage?

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