Drug Policy

Out of the Cannabis Closet, With a Bag Over Your Head

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Andrew Sullivan has touched off a flurry of messages from unrepentant pot smokers (along with a few regretful ones) by posting this comment from one of his readers:

We need credible people to stand up and say "I contribute to society, I work hard, I love my family, and I smoke pot. This is the only way I break the law. The law is wrong." And we need a lot of them. There are a lot of people that could make this argument. Unfortunately, society being what it is, a lot of people, myself included, are (excuse the metaphor) in the closet.

This is a major theme of my book Saying Yes: In Defense of Drug Use, which concludes (rather hopefully) that "once the silent majority of illegal drug users begins to speak out, the stereotypes that drive the war on drugs will be impossible to sustain." Here's one of the stereotype-busting messages Sullivan has posted:

I'm 41 years old and a contract manager with a government agency. Treasurer for the PTA.  Father of two active boys. The funny thing is, I am only in the closet professionally and where the parenting thing makes it an issue. Most of my friends, who are also professionals, are in the same position as me. We work hard, handle our business, and see no logical reason why this particular drug should be not just illegal, but as heavily stigmatized as it currently is.

 Here's another:

I'm a middle-aged woman, college educated and married over 20 years to a public servant (who doesn't indulge) and we have two teenage kids. I volunteer for a host of community organizations, attend lots of local youth athletic events, and by all accounts I'm an engaged community member.

By day I run a local non-profit, but on the occasional Friday night after a long and tiresome work week, and only when the kids aren't home, I go in the bathroom, open the window a crack, and mom lights up a little pink, sparkly pipe and smokes the ganj, falling into the most blissful, relaxed state ever.

Notably, all the pot smokers talking about coming out of the cannabis closet (like almost all the drug users I interviewed for my book) chose to remain anonymous. It's a decision I certainly understand; although I have little to lose professionally or personally by talking about my own illegal drug use (the cat was pretty much out of the bag when I wrote Saying Yes), I still get nervous when someone asks me about it publicly (especially on national TV). At the same time, the fact that so few people openly talk about their marijuana use means that they seem freakier than they otherwise would. Aside from professional drug policy reformers and a few other brave souls, the pot smokers who come to the public's attention tend to do be conspicuous precisely because their marijuana use has caused problems. Either they get arrested, or their pot smoking is so excessive that it visibly disrupts their lives in other ways. Neither sort of pot smoker is a very good model of responsible, life-enhancing drug use.

Because of this self-perpetuating dynamic, I worry that another Sullivan reader may be right:

I fear it's a losing battle. Millions of responsible adults (parents and professionals) smoke, but we can't admit it even to one another. We play the game of telling our kids that "drugs are bad," meanwhile we've got a stash out in the garage that we move around to a different hiding place every week or so.

And Obama plays the same game. "Weed is bad. I did it before, but I was young and stupid and without direction. Now I'm smart and enlightened and have realized the error of my ways." Far as we know, he's down in the White House basement at night, getting high with Reggie Love and playing video games. White House cocktail parties; no problem. Just don't say you like to get high. On this issue, unfortunately, Obama shows no spine.

The situation is especially bizarre given that smoking marijuana is normal for Americans born after World War II: According to the government's survey data, most of us have tried it at least once. Perhaps the crucial dividing line is not between Americans who have smoked pot and Americans who haven't but between those who gave it up after college, or after having kids, and those who continue to indulge from time to time. Yet in a 2000 poll by Rasmussen Research that I cite in my book, 56 percent of respondents said that, morally speaking, smoking marijuana is no worse than having a drink. If anything, opinions regarding marijuana have become more favorable since then.  

Sullivan has other reader responses here, here, and here. Last year I suggested what Obama should have learned from his youthful drug use.

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  1. Retired Master Chief Petty Officer. I couldn’t pass a pre-employment drug sreening today. In a couple weeks, probably. I smoke when it’s socially appropriate. Fuck the ONDCP lying bastards, fuck them very much.

  2. When is it not socially appropriate?

  3. Isn’t it just as important to have non-users advocate for legalization? Some might say that’s more important. Shows prohibitionists we don’t have to be afraid of other people smoking pot.

  4. J sub D

    separated AF Captain in same boat – 420 in a few hours…

  5. Am I the only person here who has never used it?

    Yes, I believe it should be legal and NOT excessively taxed.

  6. High Every Body | April 3, 2009, 1:21pm | #

    Am I the only person here who has never used it?

    Yes, I believe it should be legal and NOT excessively taxed.

    the reason for your name then?

  7. the reason for your name then?

    Hello Everybody seemed too bland.

  8. Nick,

    I agree. That’s why I’ll happily point out that I’ve never touched the stuff (nor even been tempted) and I still think our current laws are ridiculous.

  9. When is it not socially appropriate?
    Lots of times.
    Pumping gas or handling ordnance
    Operating heavy equipment
    Non-Unitarian church services
    The grocery store
    Chuck E. Cheezes
    Arraignment proceedings

  10. I’ve never smoked pot or touched it, though I’ve had plenty of friends who did and were fine. I’m all for legalization.

  11. You could be mayor of dc with crack, or president with weed. your choice.

  12. I’m a 30+ adult male. Married with a newborn child. Somewhat successful (my wife and I earn enough that we are considered upper class by the IRS, we don’t qualify for the child tax credit because of our income…and I make 2x the salary of my wife) — i graduated College with an engineering degree, until our child was born we had a pretty good social life, a good circle of friends, and have no criminal record.

    Up until our child was born, I was a very proud “out of the closet” pot smoker who never missed a chance to debate prohibition whenever I encountered someone who was anti-drugs.

    But now that I have a child, it makes me much less likely to get into a conversation about it, and even less likely to admit that I smoke it at all. My fear is that someone will call DCFS and they will be up our asses for ever and might even get the kid taken away.

    It’s really hard to come out of the closet about something when the consequences could be so dire.

    I still am willing to debate it, but I make sure to speak in the past tense. And when people ask me why I quite (since they assume so since I speak in the past tense) I say “because I don’t want to get my kid taken away if someone ratted me out — so I quit smoking”

  13. So I am not alone. Nice.

  14. when people ask me why I quite

    should be

    when people ask me why I quit

  15. Considering the zeal of some officials, even us non-smokers suffer. If I started carrying a large amount of cash around, I’d immediately be suspected as a drug dealer and some official itching to get a merit would come down on me like a ton of bricks. So its not just those who break the law who suffer, its all of us that find ourselves in the guilty until proven innocent society we are living in!!

  16. I could really do without the pot evangelists who insist on preaching to me about it when they hear I have never tried it. The coke evangelists are more rare.

    For some reason they cannot take “do what you want” for an answer.

    Jacob, didn’t you have a similar experience with some roommates or was that someone else on the staff?

  17. It’s really hard to come out of the closet about something when the consequences could be so dire.

    Exactly. I was a regular smoker until a few years ago, when moving made it too difficult to come with a new supplier. Since beginning my professional career, I have been pathologically discreet about it.

    I was a very regular smoker when graduating at the very top of my college and law school classes. I look forward to the day when I leave the office world and can enjoy this particular vice again. But go public? Not when it could cost me my career, if not my freedom.

  18. If I started carrying a large amount of cash around, I’d immediately be suspected as a drug dealer and some official itching to get a merit would come down on me like a ton of bricks.

    You are that Ron Paul staffer? Cool handle! Never guessed.

  19. I don’t smoke it (or use any drugs, legal or illegal, for that matter…I won’t waste my money on that). However, I do think pot should be legal just like cigarettes and alcohol. Particularly since marijuana has
    medicinal use.

    I saw my mom die a very prolonged and unpleasant cancer death because she had no appetite. Pot could have helped her
    enjoy the last few months of her life and maybe even prolonged it a bit by giving her an appetite to keep up her strength.

  20. Chuck E. Cheezes

    I would think a session is mandantory prior to that one.

  21. I could really do without the pot evangelists who insist on preaching to me about it when they hear I have never tried it.

    Within my circle of pot-smokers we had a rule….as a courtesy, whoever was around but didn’t normally smoke (either with us, or in general) we always offered then to join in, ONCE. If they declined the answer was always the same “cool…more for us” 🙂

  22. High Every Body,
    Do what you want, as long as I can do what I want. But there’s no good reason for not smoking pot. That’s like not listening to Mozart.

  23. You are that Ron Paul staffer? Cool handle! Never guessed.

    Ha, no, though that event is topically pertinent to the discussion at hand. They knew he wasn’t a terrorist, but they thought they’d got themselves a drug dealer instead, someone who would have posed no threat to the TSA, but would have earned them a pat on the back from the DEA.

  24. That’s like not listening to Mozart.

    SOme of us prefer Beethoven

  25. J sub D,

    Clearly you are in the minority in the Chuck E Cheese scenario. Those places are dangerous as it is, a little weed isn’t gonna fuck the place up.

  26. When my kids were teenagers, I told them that the most dangerous aspect of pot was that the federal government would destoy their lives if they got caught in possesion of even a trival amount.

    That, and that heavy drinkers scare me far more than heavy smokers.

  27. I can probably count the number of times I’ve smoked pot on two hands. Was never really my thing, though I do enjoy a drink or twelve.

    And, of course, smoking pot is no worse morally than drinking. Neither, for that matter, are coke, heroin, meth or ecstacy. Because none of them are the slightest bit immoral.

  28. I’m still in the “don’t smoke because of job-related reasons” club. I smoked socially, but it stopped when I had to begin job hunting and I thought I would really hate myself if I got a job I really really liked and failed a drug test or something.

  29. …there’s no good reason for not smoking pot.

    Anxiety.
    Lung disease.
    Drug testing.

    I’ll give you the Mozart one, though.

  30. I’m afraid I ran out of stoner jokes. Check back later.

  31. “Cannabis Virgins For Destigmatization!”

    “I’m Uptight By Choice!”

  32. I’m still in the “don’t smoke because of job-related reasons” club. I smoked socially, but it stopped when I had to begin job hunting and I thought I would really hate myself if I got a job I really really liked and failed a drug test or something.

    That’s why I had to give up poppyseed muffins. I still regret it, 🙁

  33. I agree with Naga, but I would add a “?” to Non-Unitarian church services, because frankly, I would think it harder to sit through them without smoking first.

  34. An interesting post from Chicago Tom.
    have often wondered why people seem to forget what they were like when they were younger.

    i do get irritated when pot smokers think that should be legalised but users of other drugs should be locked up.

  35. Never smoked it, never touched it, know plenty of people who have, doesn’t seem to have any correlation with success or failure. That goes for all the other drugs I’ve had indirect experience with through my friends (shrooms, ecstasy, cocaine).

    War on Drugs = evil incarnate

  36. I’ve smoked pot on a dozen or so occasions, but I have never consumed tobacco — cause that stuffs bad for you 😉

  37. I smoked, heavily, until I got out of college, then gradually moved away from it simply because I didn’t enjoy it anymore as I found myself less interested in social interaction when high. I don’t smoke at all now, and haven’t for many years.

    I find it silly in the extreme that such an innocuous substance is banned – even as a medicine – and that people are jailed for possession and use.

  38. It’s not really coming out of the closet if it’s an anonymous post on a blog.
    Furthermore, I think what is really needed are people who have never used the drug to stand up and say something like, “I’m a religious man. I’ve never touched liquor, never used tobacco, marijuana or any drug stronger than aspirin. And yet I support the rights of people to live their lives however they want, provided they accept the consequences as their personal responsibility and do not infringe on the same freedom of any other.”
    That is my history and those are my feelings. Pot is something from which I abstain, but I’ve never been harmed by any pot-smoker due to belligerence or negligence brought on by the drug. Legalize it. I won’t use it, but I’ll not deny anyone the harmless pleasure they glean from lighting up a joint.

  39. Bravo, Adam.

  40. BP,

    I’ll only spot you lung disease. Anxiety and testing are artifacts of illegality. I’ve never known anyone anxious or paranoid in a “safe” setting.

    And lung disease (or just smoke damage) can be sidetracked with vaporizers, alcohol extraction, or edibles such as brownies.

    Legalize everything, get rid of socialized medicine, and let the chips fall where they may. If you are bound and determined to fuck up your life, drug use is an avenue not a destination.

  41. i do get irritated when pot smokers think that should be legalised but users of other drugs should be locked up.

    Personally, I think all drugs should be legal. I don’t like the hypocrisy of pot smokers who demagogue other drugs. I like to believe we are all in this fight together.

  42. The sad part was the NJ juror who said they almost all smoked and joked about it, yet still “had to” find the guy guilty.

  43. J Sub D-

    I have a friend who is a former firearms instructor. He smokes before, during and after his practice at the range. He claims that he can outshoot any cop, while stoned.

  44. Anxiety and testing are artifacts of illegality. I’ve never known anyone anxious or paranoid in a “safe” setting.

    My very good childhood friend had to stop smoking because every time we would get high, his pulse would start racing and he would get anxiety/panic attacks.

    The funny part was, until he quit, he would to take Paxil whenever we would smoke weed to curb the panic attacks.

  45. I can probably count the number of times I’ve smoked pot on two hands.

    Mike D, you aren’t fooling us. Fess up. One of those hands is holding a calculator, isn’t it?

  46. ChicagoTom,

    That’s hilarious. That must have been the mellowest guy ever.

  47. Considering the zeal of some officials, even us non-smokers suffer. If I started carrying a large amount of cash around, I’d immediately be suspected as a drug dealer and some official itching to get a merit would come down on me like a ton of bricks. So its not just those who break the law who suffer, its all of us that find ourselves in the guilty until proven innocent society we are living in!!

    Tell me about it.

  48. BakedPenguin-

    Lung disease? I see that you are not conversant with Donald Tashkin’s UCLA study that supports the hypothesis that not only does smoking pot NOT cause lung cancer or lung disease, but, to the contrary, serves to protect one from lung cancer.

  49. “the reason for your name then?”

    I’m guessing because TofuSushi and it’s Nolonger variant, weren’t working anymore.

  50. I don’t smoke pot, but everyone thinks I do, especially at work including my immediate supervisor (who himself is fairly libertarian), because I advocate so hard for legalization. Haven’t touched it in 12 years.

    I want to, though, but not willing to ever lose custody of my kid to the State.

  51. HEB=TofuSushi=NoLongerTofuSushi=LoneWacko?

    Okay this is getting ridiculous.

  52. I want answers dammit! I want the truth!

  53. He claims that he can outshoot any cop, while stoned.

    So can Stevie Wonder.

  54. Okay this is getting ridiculous.

    It certainly is.

  55. “I want answers dammit! I want the truth!”

    HEB=TofuSushi=NoLongerTofuSushi BUT NOT =LoneWacko

    That is all.

  56. Naga,

    Whoever he is, it’s not LoneWacko. Los Wackoff has absolutely zero sense of humor or the ability to make anything even approaching a humorous comment.

    And it’s not Epi, because he always spoof posts under “Sugartits.”

  57. I hereby invoke the almight REASON god Jacob Sullum to deliver the answer that has been besmirching the minds of their followers! Is HEB also TofuSushi? And is he also LoneWacko? I, your loyal follower, await your answer.

    If a human sacrifice is necassary, just give me a heads up.

  58. Never touched it, never gonna, think it’s a bad idea to use drugs.

    Will ABSOLUTELY defend your right to.

  59. SugarFree,

    I thought he was Reinmoose yesterday but that is out the window now and my damn magic eight ball is currently in limbo somewhere.

  60. If a human sacrifice is necassary, just give me a heads up.

    Did your ninja chick find out that you are still alive? Thanks for volunteering!

  61. “Lost_In_Translation | April 3, 2009, 1:44pm | #

    You are that Ron Paul staffer? Cool handle! Never guessed.

    Ha, no, though that event is topically pertinent to the discussion at hand. They knew he wasn’t a terrorist, but they thought they’d got themselves a drug dealer instead, someone who would have posed no threat to the TSA, but would have earned them a pat on the back from the DEA.”

    If you ever seen the guy you’d know he looks nothing like a drug dealer, they’d probably think he was bringing church donations home or something. The reason they even mentioned the DEA was to threaten him with confiscation, not saying he was a drug dealer.

  62. @Jacob Sullum

    1. The plural of anecdote is not data.
    2. The Devil’s Advocate argues that people could live *even more* successful lives if they didn’t smoke pot/crack cocaine/my dingle-berries.
    3. Your argument suggests that pot should be legal, because smoking pot doesn’t hurt you, not because it’s everybody’s own decision how they want to live their life.

  63. I have a friend who is a former firearms instructor. He smokes before, during and after his practice at the range. He claims that he can outshoot any cop, while stoned.
    For the record, “handling ordnance” means moving missiles, bombs and artillery shells around.

  64. “Kathryn Johnston’s bullet riddled corpse” was me.

    A helpful H&R hint – turn off the remember me option when using a joke handle.

  65. Naga,

    I’m fairly sure it’s a regular not currently posting under their commonly-used name. That would be too difficult to maintain.

  66. SugarFree,

    We all know you are lightning quick at cross spoofing, don’t even play…

  67. Sounds like you have a guilty conscience, SugarFree! Anything you wanna own up to?

    J’accuse!!!

  68. I’m fairly sure it’s a regular not currently posting under their commonly-used name. That would be too difficult to maintain.

    You got that right! A whole different set of misspellings and missusages. Different haircut. Different clothes. It is almost like Jerry Seinfeld contemplating the m?nage lifestyle!

  69. Also never did it.

    But am more and more annoyed at the rights I am losing by those trying to get others to stop using.

    I believe that drug laws are the mother of gun laws.

    Also drug laws, like tax laws are of the laws that you have to prove your innocence, instead of the burden of the proof being on the accuser.

    There may be a situation in the future where I am accused of something drug related, even though I am not. And I reject that I have to prove my innocence, and I reject any authority by any other human to decide what I may or may not do with my body, or my property.

  70. Unless Jiggletits is Jacob . . .

  71. domo and Naga,

    I don’t know why the notion that I am TS/HEB is so persistent. Seriously, let’s go the tape:

    A. What does he say that I wouldn’t under my own handle? The “SugarFree” brand has been freely associated with rosebudding, the crushing deaths of children, and “cunts” whose labias have taught themselves to type.

    B. I already indulge in straight-faced liberal mocking.

    C. I am way, way funnier than he is, even my “B-roll” is hilarious compared to him.

    I call upon The Walker to clear my name! Hear my pleas, O Mighty One!

  72. Naga accused – I merely pointed out that you cross spoof quickly, in contrary to your suggestion that such a thing would be hard.

  73. “A. What does he say that I wouldn’t under my own handle? The “SugarFree” brand has been freely associated with rosebudding, the crushing deaths of children, and “cunts” whose labias have taught themselves to type.”

    And that’s why we all love you!

  74. domo,

    Naga accused – I merely pointed out that you cross spoof quickly, in contrary to your suggestion that such a thing would be hard.

    You make an excellent point.

  75. domo,

    Yes, I see. You shall be spared my wrath. For now.

    But that means Naga get your share. WRATH!

  76. I was thinking of a pre-existing lung disease – smoking anything is generally a bad idea in that case. However, as SF pointed out, smoking is not the only was to use pot. And any potential injuries sustained are no reason to send people to jail or prison.

    My oldest friend, the guy I used to get stoned with all of the time, also quit because of anxiety. Neither of us had anything near panic attack levels, but spending $30 for a quarter ounce of anxiety doesn’t make sense at the margins.

    Yet like Nick above, most people think I smoke because I am so outspoken on legalization.

  77. SF,

    Are you having a wrath special today?

  78. wrath is on special everyday at Hit and Run.

  79. SugarFree,

    From hells heart, I stab at thee!!!!

    Now where the hell is my harpoon?

  80. wrath is on special everyday at Hit and Run.

    Roger. Stocking up on ammo over the weekend*

    *I am not a reloader according to that, unless that is just what I want you to think.

  81. “cunts” whose labias have taught themselves to type.”

    I’m gonna need a link for this statement.

  82. Pre-April 1: TofuSushi
    April 1: mea culpa + NolongerTofuSushi
    April 2: NolongerTofuSushi replaced with High Every Body

  83. Now where the hell is my harpoon?

    Try using a daggar made from plate glass.

    BTW, I had to kick moose out of my shop for wearing sandals right when I was applying the finishing touches to the motorcycle side car so I can install my massive, super cool, defensive device.

  84. Now where the hell is my harpoon?

    I use a specially sharpened ball point pen when my office mates get out of line. I hide it in my “prison pocket”

  85. Obama like nearly all liberals is a hypocritical fuck.

    Their mantra: “do as I say, not as I do.”

    Fuck them.

  86. Could use a highly sharpened #8 or harder wooden pencil, just like G. Gordon Liddy recommends.

  87. We all know you are lightning quick at cross spoofing, don’t even play…

    I believe him. If HEB was SugarFree, he would have fucked up the links at least once by now…

  88. I believe him. If HEB was SugarFree, he would have fucked up the links at least once by now…

    HEB rarely posts with links. Could be due to very careful link checking before each rare post . . .

  89. DAMN!

  90. The tone of the chatter does seem to have changed in the past year. But you still had Michael Phelps disgorging the Mia Culpa like a trained seal.

    We may be on the cusp of a sea change. But we’ve been here before, and the sea change was Nancy Reagan.

  91. Tax Day Ragefest

    Note: It is fairly settled that MK2 turned into Leftiti.

    MK2 | April 15, 2008, 3:01pm | #
    “As for me, I’d consider my tax burden to be fair only if I approved of how my money was spent.” –Jozef

    You’re a fucking idiot. Go live in a hunter gatherer village somewhere.

    SugarFree | April 15, 2008, 3:07pm | #
    MK2,

    I think it’s amazing medical feat that someone taught a seeping cunt to type with its labia, but even the neatest tricks get old after you see them enough.

    MK2 | April 15, 2008, 3:09pm | #
    Your wit is watsed here. You should be writing for the New Yorker.

    SugarFree | April 15, 2008, 3:11pm | #
    Just wipe off the public library keyboard when you’re finished.

  92. BTW, Ward Churchill won his court case. Where is his cheering section?

  93. SugarFree,

    That was Teh AWSOmest!

  94. And I don’t think I statistically fuck up links more than other people, I just post way more links. It’s a tall poppy problem, really.

  95. When is it not socially appropriate?
    Lots of times.

    Non-Unitarian church services

    I think most UU congregation would ask you to go outside and a least 20 feet from the doors…

  96. “HEB rarely posts with links. Could be due to very careful link checking before each rare post . . .”

    Hmmm…HEB has only been here two days, yet writes like a regular. Funny that.

    I’m with J-tits. I think Tofu morphed into HEB (not that there’s anything wrong with that).

    On an unrelated topic, did anyone see Obama’s French town hall this morning? I think he was channeling David Byrne of the Talking Heads. He was saying “You may find yourself in a beautiful house…”

    And his point was that it’s wrong to want a nice, big house and that instead we should live in a smaller house and help the poor with the difference. He said in doing so, we will all feel better about ourselves.

    And people were eating this shit up.

  97. Amazingly, SugarFree @ April 3, 2009, 3:07pm managed a working and correct link.

  98. I’m gonna need a link for this statement.

    Funny part is… you were on that thread.

    Naga Sadow | April 15, 2008, 1:29pm | #

  99. SugarFree @ April 3, 2009, 3:15pm goes back to link-free mode . . .

  100. Indeed. Hmmmmmmm. It would appear your propensity for hilarious, yet disgusting insults has made it impossible to keep up with them without a careful transcription. Funny that. Well I gotta get ready for work sadly. If people figure out you can get drunk without the need for a bartender, I’m fucked!

  101. NS,

    Say hello to all of the Asian hotties for me?

  102. It’s a tall poppy problem, really.

    If you harvest all the poppies, you avoid the appearance of prejudice. Unfortunately, you might not avoid the appearance of the cops.

  103. “You may find yourself in a beautiful house…”

    When Obama says that, he means it literally. Since the government will have purchased it for you.

  104. My fantasy is that if I am ever asked to take a drug test, I will take a dump in their little cup and leave it without further comment.

  105. “You may find yourself in a beautiful house…”

    Since the government will have purchased it for you.

    Then wouldn’t it look more like a square cinder block building painted a 1977 Chevy Malibu olive, a la a public school classroom?

  106. “By day I run a local non-profit, but on the occasional Friday night after a long and tiresome work week, and only when the kids aren’t home, I go in the bathroom, open the window a crack, and mom lights up a little pink, sparkly pipe and smokes the ganj, falling into the most blissful, relaxed state ever.”

    Am I the only person who watched, and learned form Dragnet? Right after this woman becomes blissful, one of her children will surely drown in the tub!

  107. rac – no, I watched and learned, too. That’s why I never read existential philosophy – because it causes you to shoot people for no reason.

  108. And I don’t think I statistically fuck up links more than other people, I just post way more links. It’s a tall poppy problem, really.

    No, you fuck up more than other people. Just face facts, you are a link retard. I have never fucked up a link, not once. And now that I have said that, I will undoubtedly fuck up a link in the near future.

  109. No, you fuck up more than other people. Just face facts, you are a link retard. I have never fucked up a link, not once. And now that I have said that, I will undoubtedly fuck up a link in the near future.

    That was cruel. Prepare to be smited.

  110. Or smitten.

  111. smote?

  112. smote?

    Throw that one in too. Can’t have too much of that. It goes well with wrath, dontchathink?

  113. throw a couple “begats” in there and you have bronze age sex and violence entertainment.

  114. He’s just jealous because everyone likes me more.

    And I’ll go with: smotten or possibly smitethened.

  115. throw a couple “begats” in there and you have bronze age sex and violence entertainment.

    Now you are just teasing me.

  116. He’s just jealous because everyone likes me more.

    Oh yeah? Prove it!

  117. O Shining Gods of HnR, harketh to mine pleas. Please make a survey on the main blog page and so as to judge who is more popular, me, your humble servant, the ever-loyal SugarFree, or the profane demogoge Episiarch, soiler of thy holy servers.

  118. 420 everyone

  119. have a great weekend, may both SugarFree and Episiarch and Naga and ChiTom, and JsubD and Ska, and kwais and all the others be blessed with good smoke and slutty bar skanks this weekend, but not get smutten with the crabs. thank you sweet baby jesus amen.

  120. High Every Body

    I like the name, makes me think of Towelie.

  121. and slutty bar skanks this weekend

    I’m the best friend a bar skank could ever have. Treat them like Queens. It’s the prudes I don’t care for.

  122. I like the name, makes me think of Towelie.

    Wanna get high?

  123. Pot is illegal, it has been for a long time and it is going to stay that way. Grow up and obey the law.

  124. With your permission, domo, I will be using that one at Easter.

  125. Thanks all you potheads for your electronic confessions. NSA should be sending over your home addresses shortly.

    Knock, knock. Who’s there? Oh yeah, we don’t knock.

  126. They used to say paranoia was a feature of being high, but I think now it’s understood that people only get paranoid because they’re stoned out of their minds and the police could bust in at any second.

  127. They used to say paranoia was a feature of political discourse, but I think now it’s understood that people only get paranoid because they’re thinking illegal thoughts and the police could bust in at any second.

  128. Wanna get high?

    Oh, Towelie, you make PSAs fun.

  129. And back in realityland, most potheads still get nothing done, contributing to the stereotype of them as useless.

  130. Do you have data on your claim, Brett? A link perhaps? Most of the people in my casino make a good living while being a bunch of coke heads/pill poppers. FYI, cocktail waitresses LOVE painkillers.

  131. I am seventy-one years, old and have been smoking pot responsibly, I believe, for forty years. As long as this society continues to take the stand it has taken re pot smoking, I will remain convinced that we are all living on the mad side of the mirror.

  132. Nick | April 3, 2009, 1:20pm | #

    Isn’t it just as important to have non-users advocate for legalization? Some might say that’s more important. Shows prohibitionists we don’t have to be afraid of other people smoking pot.

    Agreed.

  133. Warren,

    But there’s no good reason for not smoking pot.

    I do not want to any more is good enough for me. You sound like the sort that was being complained about.

  134. If more people who smoked pot would at least make a 5 minute phone call to their reps to support marijuana legalization, I think we will get some change. According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Heath, over 14 million Americans smoked pot in the past month and over 96 million Americans smoked pot at some point in their lifetime. Imagine what would happen if just 10% called their reps in support of legalization.

  135. jtuf,

    I agree with you @ 10:35. Both me and beloved boyfriend have done this, even we don’t smoke (he never, me not any more). They sound like they are noting the call, but I don’t know if they really do.

  136. I am eternal, Suki.

  137. More than 46% of all arrest are marijuana possession. Billions of our tax paying dollars are going into the cannabis war with no effect at all. It leaves an open market for children, when it’s much easier obtaining marijuana than that of alcohol or cigarettes. The prohibition is far worse than the actually plant could ever be.

  138. Isn’t the “war on drugs” really “war on Americans?”

    I don’t know how the politicians, the police and DEA agents, etc… sleep at night! I can’t imagine having to send people to prison, taken the property, and removing them from their children as being part of my job! How they stand there in the pictures showing their recent bust, it makes me sad, angry and confused!

    They create the problems they say they are trying to prevent. Growing up I couldn’t get a bottle of beer without investing hours standing outside a store asking someone to buy it for me, but I could get pot in about 30 minutes most days. Criminals sell drugs to kids, but businesses don’t tend to do such things, not even employees.

    They have us in a pickle, you can’t stand up for what you know is right, and what should be your choice, because of the possible consequences.

    I think if everyone that believes it should be legal donated just $10 to one of the groups trying to legalize cannabis, such as MPP or Normal, it would be legal in a very short period of time.

    I don’t want my kids smoking while they are kids, if they ever do, but as my oldest is almost in high school, I know that he can find pot easier than I can. What a messed up system we have going here in America! The land of the free, free to loss everything, and spend years in prison if your caught with a plant, or a bag, or conspiring to purchase, etc…

    I can’t wait for the day, when everybody says, “enough is enough”, no longer will we allow so many of our fellow Americans to be arrested, for something we know isn’t as bad as drinking!

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