Not Crazy About Mukasey
Michael Mukasey emerges from the press coverage of his nomination as smarter and more thoughtful than Alberto Gonzales, more popular with Democrats, and possibly a little less dedicated to a maximalist view of the president's powers in fighting terrorism. Mukasey's closeness to Rudy Giuliani, whose main claim to the presidency is that he's a Strong Leader who will do what is necessary to defeat terrorism, is unsettling. On the brighter side, at least some defense attorneys who appeared before Mukasey when he was a federal judge describe him as fair-minded and deny that he was overly deferential to the government.
In 2002 Mukasey upheld President Bush's detention of Jose Padilla, a U.S. citizen arrested on U.S. soil, as an "enemy combatant," saying Bush was "operating at maximum authority" under the Constitution and the post-9/11 Authorization for the Use of Military Force. But he rejected the administration's contention that Padilla had no right to a lawyer and said the government had to present "some evidence to support the president's finding."
After several years in military custody, Padilla was ultimately convicted in a civilian court. In the mid-1990s Mukasey himself presided over the successful prosecution of Omar Abdel Rahman for conspiring to blow up targets in New York City. Yet he is skeptical of treating terrorists as criminals, saying trials risk exposing information useful to jihadists.
Mukasey is also described as an advocate of broad surveillance powers to prevent terrorist attacks. I'm not sure whether that means he wants Congress to grant them or thinks the president has the inherent authority to exercise them, no matter what Congress (or the courts) might say. The Padilla decision provides some hope that Mukasey would be more protective of civil liberties than Gonzales was and less inclined to support breaking the law in the name of national security—although that description also applies to John Ashcroft, which suggests how low Gonzales has set the bar.
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He's bad, Muuuu-kkkaaaaa see?
"In the mid-1990s Mukasey himself presided over the successful prosecution of Omar Abdel Rahman for conspiring to blow up targets in New York City. Yet he is skeptical of treating terrorists as criminals, saying trials risk exposing information useful to jihadists."
Perhaps that is because he and his family were under 24 hour armed guard for the entire length of the trial. Mukasey knows better than anyone the challenges and dangers of prosecuting a terrorist case. Look around the world, anywhere where terrorists are tried in the criminal justice system, Peru and Columbia come to mind, the tactic is, kill the judges and prosecutors. Mukasey knows this first hand. Of course, I am sure all of the brave writers as reason would say from the safety of their offices "too bad that is your job to risk getting blown up". Well, generally it is not their job now and you can certainly undrerstand why they want to leave that job to the military.
a lot of malarkey about Wesley Clark-y
Wait a second, I thought people sitting in their offices were in such danger of being killed by terrorists that their telephones, email servers, and workspaces were appropriate spheres for the Commander in Chief to treat according to his war powers.
also, John, Peru and Colombia are very different places than the United States, places where (as I understand it) criminal gangs and terrorists have power parity with the legitimate government, either through bribing police forces or just having all the guns and cojones.
It's hard to imagine a prosecutor being blown up on the way to the office, and if it did happen you can guaran-damn-tee it would be offset by strict security for the states side in any such trial.
I'd be a lot more concerned about Mukasey's ties to Benito if he didn't have a pre-existing professional relationship with him during their years working in the same courthouses.
Hence the term, Banana Republicans.
They look at Columbia, Peru, of El Salvador and say "More like that, please."
Addendum: if these prosecutors really believe they are fighting, like the brave 301st Keyboard division, in the most important struggle of our lifetimes, they should be willing to put some skin in the game. Not to be like the rest of the "brave writers at reason."
Randolph,
Perhaps the FBI and the US Marshall service were dreaming up the threats to Mukasey and wasting your tax dollars. If they were I would like to hear why other than "this is not Peru". Indeed, every country that has ever delt with serious terrorism has ended up creating secret courts to deal with it. We all sit around and slam on Peru, but I would like to see anyone on this thread go down and deal with the Shining Path. Perhaps the US really can be the first country in history to deal with terror by giving every terrorist a gold plated federal trial complete with Lynn Stewart as a defense attorney passing notes to the "resistance" as she does so. If that is the case, we really are as cool as we think we are or there really isn't much of a threat.
Michael Mukasey emerges from the press coverage of his nomination as smarter and more thoughtful than Alberto Gonzales...
Now that is truly damning with faint praise.
They look at Columbia, Peru, of El Salvador and say "More like that, please."
I don't think that's what John was saying, joe. Though I do agree with Randolph that federal judges and the like should put their money where their mouth is. Also remember that federal judges are much higher forms of political life than us plebes and have federal carry permits, can get armed guards, etc.
John, if you're calling a trial by the jury of your peers "gold-plated," I can't really help you out.
I wasn't saying that there is no risk to any prosecutor, simply that that risk is an acceptable one, and it holds for any type of organization that has one of its members under trial. We don't have secret courts for mobsters, do we?
Or to put it more simply, if you want to be a federal judge, with all the perks, power, and priveledge that provides, you have to take the occasional risk that might come along.
E,
I think that's exactly what John is saying, and he makes it pretty clear in his next comment.
What's next, hoods on the judges?
And judges and prosecutors DO put their "skin in the game." Woody Harrelson's father in serving a life sentence for murdering a federal judge as a hit man. A prosecutor in Philly was killed a couple years ago.
Woody Harrelson's father in serving a life sentence for murdering a federal judge as a hit man.
I did not know this. Now I am intrigued. Well, not really. Maybe if I get high.
OK, now I'M intrigued. 😉
Pass the bowl!
Whoa, you want to eat cereal in Denver?
Because that's totally what this conversation is about.
There are many things to do in Denver when you're dead...stoned.
hate to break it you guys but Woody's dad died a couple years ago.
break it TO you guys
Oh, good. We thought you broke the bowl.
Oh, c'mon. Did anybody think that bush would nominate an AG with an expansive view on civil liberties? Will Clinton or Obama? Nah. The AG, is almost required to despise civil liberties because they are perceivd to interfere with his/her law enforcement mission.
Do you many cops who think they have too much authority?
smarter and more thoughtful than Alberto Gonzales
Not to mention, slimmer and more agile than Roseanne Barr.
Teller and better shaved than Robert Reich.
Not Crazy About Mukasey
Why do I keep reading this as "Not Crazy About Macaca?"
Judge Mukasey or Judge Betraysey?