Let's Support All the Lawyers
A Pentagon official tries to shame American corporations who do business with law firms who are also defending Guantanamo detainees; it doesn't work. From a Boston Globe account:
In a radio interview, [Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Detainee Affairs Charles D. "Cully""] Stimson stated the names of a dozen law firms that volunteer their services to represent detainees, and he suggested that the chief executives of the firms' corporate clients would make the lawyers "choose between representing terrorists or representing reputable firms."
He said he expected the newly public list of law firms that do work at Guantanamo Bay to spark a cycle of negative publicity for them. Instead, Stimson himself became the center of nationwide criticism and later apologized for the remarks.
After quoting corporate representatives from General Electric and Boston Scientific Corp. specifically who are standing by their firm, the story goes to one of the accursed attorneys:
"It would seem [the Pentagon] made a miscalculation," said Stephen Oleskey , an attorney at WilmerHale in Boston who has traveled to Guantanamo Bay seven times since he took up the case in 2004. "We haven't had any clients call up and say, 'We are really deeply disturbed that you are advocating for fair hearings.' The amount of support [we have gotten] has been heartening."
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Nothing warms the heart so much as watching a self-righteous, arrogant prick get a public come-uppance.
These tactics are so 2004ish. All they accomplish now is making the Conservative loudmouths look like the intolerant fools they really are.
The article below appeared in the TIMES, London, in Dec. 2001: Since the suspected terrorists were Israelis, two things happened: One, they were released instead of being sent to Guantanamo like many hapless Muslims against whom there is far less evidence, and two, the story never made it to FOX or CNN.
If Muslims had been caught with that sort of evidence, they would have had life sentences by now.
WASHINGTON - With America on top security alert, the FBI was hunting yesterday for six men of Middle Eastern appearance carrying plans of a nuclear power plant and the Trans-Alaska oil pipeline who were picked up by police in the Midwest over the weekend but then released.
The incident is thought to be connected with the latest FBI alert and senior intelligence officials are furious that the men were set free before they could be fully questioned.
The men were travelling in two groups of three in white saloon cars when they were pulled over by police officers in the Midwest, according to the Knight Ridder News Service. Security officials have refused to disclose further details.
The men were searched and questioned and the state officers discovered detailed plans and photographs of a nuclear power plant in Florida, along with box cutters-the weapons used in the September 11 attacks- and other equipment.
The men, who appeared to be of Middle Eastern origin and held Israeli passports, were then interviewed by immigration officials. When their passports and visas were found to be in order the officers, who were not aware of the country's imminent security alert, let the men go without first calling in the FBI to question them more thoroughly.
It is not clear why the men were pulled over in the first place nor why intelligence officers were not given a chance to interview them. Agents suspect that the men will by now have switched cars and tried to flee the country, possibly to Canada.
Intelligence officials were especially concerned about the nuclear plant details. America's nuclear facilities received special attention in the latest FBI alert. The men were also carrying plans of the 800-mile Trans-Alaska pipeline, which delivers 17 per cent of America's oil.
There are three nuclear facilities in Florida, which have now been advised to step up security. One of the plants has called in local police as an extra security precaution.
The news came as the US banned private flights near US nuclear facilities for the next ten days, in connection with the warning of another terrorist attack, and National Guard troops were deployed at nuclear power plants in three southern states. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission ordered the nation's 103 nuclear power plants to increase security.
At a time when police have unprecedented powers to arrest and detain people who are merely suspected of having links to terrorist activities, the release of these six men has infuriated the FBI.
DEAR TERROR WATCH:
I AM FROM GERMANY AND ONE OF MY IN LAWS IS IN INTEL; HE SAYS THIS IS ON THE LEVEL, AND ALSO HE SAID THAT AMERICA'S SO-CALLED "DEPT. OF HOMELAND SECURITY" IS A JOKE, THAT ANY COUNTRY SUCH AS ISRAEL, CHINA, ETC. COULD CROSS THE MEXICAN BORDER (MIDDLE AGED, OUT-OF-SHAPE HISPANIC WOMEN CROSS BY THE HUNDREDS EACH YEAR) ANY TIME, BLOW UP aA FEW BUILDINGS IN AN AMERICAN CITY, AND STICK A KORAN IN THE VICINITY, TO BLAME IT ON MUSLIMS. ARE AMERICANS REALLY SO NAIVE AS TO BELIEVE THAT BUSH IS TOUGH ON TERROR JUST BECAUSE THE U.S. GOVT. STICKS A FEW POOR MUSLIMS IN A MILITARY PRISON, AND THEN THREATENS LAWYERS WHO TRY TO DEFEND THEM?
"Report of the German Intelligence Service (BND) says Israel's MOSSAD helped the "Arab terrorists" allegedly responsible for the 9/11 attacks, insuring that the operation succeeded. Germany has not denied that this report is authentic and no one has been able to refute it.
"These investigations disclosed in late May of 2001 that an attack was to be made against certain specified targets in the American cities of Washington and New York. But it was apparent that the MOSSAD was fully aware of these attacks well in advance, and, though their own agents inside these Arab groups, assisted in the planning and the eventual execution of the attacks."
You know, I'm not terribly surprised that large companies would be OK with lawyers who represent unpopular defendants.
And I don't necessarily mean that as a snark about large companies. Whatever you think of large companies and their image, and whether public opinion on large companies is fair or unfair or whatever (I think it's a mix of both, to pull a Cathy Young), there's no denying that large companies aren't always the most sympathetic defendants, for good or for ill.
So I can see why they'd support lawyers who want to defend unpopular defendants.
Whether that speaks well or poorly of large companies depends on how you view these cases, but I think their stance makes sense from their perspective.
One of the firms Stimson complained about (Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP) is defending Scooter Libby.
Have there been any large corporations who dropped their firm because of this (non) issue?
So what's more likely - Stimson was skylarking all by himself, or this was okayed by the DoD?
I couldn't help but notice that he's still got his job.
joe: this obviously wasn't off the cuff. He came prepared with a list of people he wanted ruined...or off the case. Attacking defense attorneys has become a standard prosecutorial tactics. It's heartening to see the DoD is finally taking advice from the Justice Department.
And every DOJ lawyer is thinking, if we go after these firms, where the fck am I going to work after this job?
terrorwatch and truthfrei have the exact same back and forth as those joker who were pushing this same conspiracy crap a dozen threads back. I'm guessing they are the same guys, or rather the same guy who posted then. Anyone?
Why would you trust anyone named "truthfrei"? For those non-German speakers, it means "having no truth."
It doesn't mean "fried teeth"?
Thoreau,
If I were a corporation looking for a reputable firm capable of winning cases for me, you bet your ass I would be looking for a firm that seeks out the toughest cases, and GITMO is about a tough as it gets. Hell, what Stimson just did amounts to priceless advertising for said firms.
"truthfrei"? For those non-German speakers, it means "having no truth."
Are you sure? Doesn't frei translate as "free", as in available or unfettered, not "free", as in lacking? Anyway, no one who speaks German could be a bad man.
Yep, Kwix, if you want to hurt a law firm's reputation, saying "These guys aren't afraid to take on the toughest cases with the least sympathetic defendants" is probably not the best way to go about it.
Does this mean General Electric no longer spearheads the evil Military Industrial Complex?
All I have to say to terrorwatch and truthfrei, is that I sure do wish that I was one of them joofellas that gits to run the world and all. Except for that two millennia of pogroms and that holocaust thingy and having to live in a crappy little country surrounded by enemies because nobody wants you living in their country I'll bet life's a dream for those people.
BP:
Lockheed Missile + Martin Marietta = GE gets behind the leader
Aw, c'mon anonymous poster from 3:22 PM... we can finally admit it. Of course us Jews control the world.
In fact, I just got my ballots... time to vote in the next group of Jewish bankers to control the world.
Oh, and, just stay out of Sheboygan, Wisconsin around noon on February 17th. Don't ask me why. That was in our latest "How We Control the World" newsletter. Just trying to be helpful.
Personally, I believe that the Americans, the Europeans, the Chinese, and the Russians more or less rule the world. The Jews... puleeze! The Muslims used to rule the world, which is probably why they are so pissed off these days.
(I wish some competent group like the Illuminati ruled the world; our current crop of rulers suck big time.)
Does anyone know whether Cully Stimson is related to Henry L. Stimson (Secretary of State, Secretary of War, and name partner at Winthrop, Stimson, Putnam & Roberts)?
I do know the answer. Thank you for asking.
OK, wise guy, would you mind sharing the answer?
Andrew | January 30, 2007, 3:56pm | #
Aw, c'mon anonymous poster from 3:22 PM... we can finally admit it. Of course us Jews control the world.
In fact, I just got my ballots... time to vote in the next group of Jewish bankers to control the world.
Oh, and, just stay out of Sheboygan, Wisconsin around noon on February 17th. Don't ask me why. That was in our latest "How We Control the World" newsletter. Just trying to be helpful.
Andrew....
Or AnJew !?!?
For a religious perspective on the Stimson flap, see
neshamah.net