Bill O'Reilly, a Famous Cannabis Critic, Lashes Out at Cannabis Critics

Fox News ChannelFox News ChannelI wrote Saying Yes: In Defense of Drug Use to debunk the purported moral distinction between the psychoactive substances that Congress has decided to ban and the psychoactive substances that remain legal. As I discovered when I discussed the book on The O'Reilly Factor several years ago, that show's host also does a pretty good job of showing how specious this distinction is, although not on purpose. O'Reilly was at it again last night, blowing a gasket over The Denver Post's hiring of a marijuana editor. Although the editor, Ricardo Baca, will oversee a wide range of marijuana-related coverage, including the ins and outs of transforming a countercultural symbol into a capitalist commodity, what really offended O'Reilly was Baca's plan to hire a cannabis critic:

The Denver Post has actually hired an editor to promote pot. Think about this. The only reason you use weed, outside of a medical situation, is to intoxicate yourself. And of course that can lead to bad things: DUI, the use of harder drugs…They're promoting marijuana use!...

They're hiring a critic who is going to have to ingest marijuana and tell everybody what's the best intoxicant to use….If you have teenagers, do you want them to read where the best pot is in the state?...

They're going to tell you what the best bud is…where to buy it, how to prune it, how to roll it. This is promoting the use of an intoxicant by The Denver Post

When Fox News analyst Juan Williams noted that marijuana is legal in Colorado and drew an analogy to wine reviews, O'Reilly was puzzled. "That's not an intoxication deal, is it?" he asked. "You can drink wine without getting inebriated."

Well, that depends what you mean by "inebriated." Wine drinking is indeed "an intoxication deal," in the sense that one of the things people like about wine is the psychoactive effect of the alcohol. Nonalcoholic wines do exist, but they are far less popular than the real thing. And the idea that drinkers experience degrees of intoxication, while marijuana consumers do not, has no basis in reality.

Explaining such matters to O'Reilly is like addressing an extraterrestrial who not only has never consumed an intoxicant but cannot comprehend why humans might want to do so. This extraterrestrial also does not know that newspapers carry reviews of alcoholic beverages and of the establishments that serve them, along with instructions for making such drinks at home:

Shouldn't they hire a booze columnist…to say, "Look, this is the best way to get high"? "Here we can drink Bailey's, or we can drink gin. Here's how you mix it."...Why don't you just set it up like, "Here’s the bar in Denver where you can get the cheapest chasers and the most gin for your money?"

Although a drink featuring gin and Bailey's does not sound very appealing, it is simply bizarre that O'Reilly thinks publishing cocktail recipes would be so reckless and socially irresponsible that no reputable periodical would ever do so. O'Reilly displays a similar cluelessness when he deems it "absurd" that The Denver Post does not want its employees to smoke pot at work "even though we have a marijuana critic and we're going to tell you where to get the best bud." Presumably he also would consider it ridiculously inconsistent for a newspaper that reviews beer, wine, or distilled spirits to ask its employees not to drink on the job. But the rest of us can only scratch our heads at the derangement that results from attempting to defend the arbitrary lines drawn by our drug laws.

[via The Huffington Post]

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  • SweatingGin||

    Sazerac

    Rinse old fashioned glass with absinthe
    Add teaspoon of simple syrup
    3 dashes of peychaud's bitters
    Ice
    2 oz rye
    Stir to chill
    Garnish with orange peel (twist over the drink to express oils)

  • playa manhattan||

    WHERE'S THE GIN?!?!

  • SweatingGin||

    It was the first one to come to mind, as I'm about to make one. I've probably posted most of my gin cocktails before...

  • SweatingGin||

    "...or we can drink gin. Here's how you mix it."

    Aviation

    2 oz gin
    1/2 oz Maraschino Liquor
    1/2 oz Fresh squeezed lemon juice
    1/4 oz Creme de Violette

    Shake, strain into an up glass. Garnish with a lemon twist, and a maraschino cherry (preferably a real one, not the bright red).

    Creme de Violette is extremely hard to find. I've found it once in MI, and found two bottles in IN.

  • playa manhattan||

    I'm a beer and jack kind of guy, but I could drink that in a pinch.

  • SweatingGin||

    It's a gorgeous cocktail, excellent taste. Inspiring.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Is the Gimlet history?

    I look forward to your advice.

  • SweatingGin||

    Gimlet is tasty, I may make once of those next. Haven't had one in a while.
    Haven't used the limes for anything yet.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I had some great Gimlets but I don't know if they were made from lime juice or Rose's.

    Is Rose's a big faux paus?

  • SweatingGin||

    Rose's is the original, correct recipe. Rose's was made for preserving lime juice and avoiding scurvy, it's absolutely appropriate in a gimlet.

    If anyone tries to give you shit for that, give it right back.

    That said, it's damn nice with fresh squeezed, too.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    thanks!

  • SweatingGin||

    Gimlet Cocktail

    This guys videos are excellent.

  • Ted S.||

    Haven't used the limes for anything yet.

    You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all down.

  • ||

  • Leo||

    I got a bottle of Violette in DC. Virginia doesn't have any because all the liquor stores are state-owned.

  • Dweebston||

    Suddenly my mug of cider (sugar-free, from a packet) and whiskey (bottom-shelf, a hair above the store brand) seems rather plebeian.

  • playa manhattan||

  • ||

    That woman is not topless. She is wearing some kind of weird strapless black rectangular bikini top.

  • playa manhattan||

    Fashion was soooo much better back then!

  • SweatingGin||

    Brain Hemorrhage (shot)

    1/2 oz. Baileys Irish Cream
    1/4 oz. Gin
    1/2 oz. Grenadine

    Layer in a shot glass.

    No thanks.

  • Andrew S.||

    I wouldn't drink that on a bet.

  • SweatingGin||

    Bets or dares is how they get drank. I wouldn't, either.

  • John C. Randolph||

    Someday, I want to get on that asshole's TV show and ask him why he had to cough up seven figures to shut Andrea Mackris up.

    -jcr

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    Didn't it have something to do with a hemp back scratcher soaked in gin?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Even worse, his wife ran off with the street beat cop.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    O'Reilly's as big government as they come. Luckily the audience that keeps him afloat will be dying off one day.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    And thus the GOP.

  • Sevo||

    But the Dems are just dreamy, right dipshit?
    Don't bother; already got it:
    "BOOOOOOOOOSH!"

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    The Dems pretty much suck too.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Lest anyone suspect Sevo has any sense - I prefer a Dem POTUS and GOP House for gridlock.

    A GOP POTUS is a recipe for disaster.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|12.10.13 @ 9:14PM|#
    "Lest anyone suspect Sevo has any sense..."

    From YOU? That's rich.

  • Sevo||

    If O'Reilly doesn't like dope, he can do exactly as I and many others do; don't smoke it and don't tell others what they should do.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    don't tell others what they should do

    Then why have Fox News anymore?

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|12.10.13 @ 9:08PM|#
    'Then why have MSNBC/CNN anymore?'

    Your cheerleading is tiresome.

  • Dweebston||

    He's more than welcome to tell others what he thinks will better them, and he's perfectly positioned to use his show as bully pulpit to appeal to the dying generation of social conservatives. He's also welcome to fuck himself savagely with a toasting fork for suggesting it's the state's job to intervene.

  • Alice Bowie||

    O'Reilly is wrong.

    You can ingest Marijuana and not get anywhere near as intoxicated as people that drink.

    I haven't had a drink since about 1997. I do smoke (a lot). And I don't feel that I get anywhere near as intoxicated as my wife on three glasses of wine.

  • Agile Cyborg||

    Wait, what? I drink probably heavier than most and I also enjoy strong weed when I can get it... Unequivocally, a strong strain of cannabis will fuck you up far more marvelously than 3 glasses of wine or, in my case, 5 bottles of stiff stout.

    Holy fuck, man, what the FUCK are you smoking? Being drunk is great but being massively stoned is a trip way beyond booze.

  • Dweebston||

    I drink a fair bit (and now that classes are out for awhile...), but nothing puts me on a rollercoaster of vertigo and paranoia like pot. That said, I've friends who routinely smoke without any appreciable intoxication–on the way to work, during lunch, heading home. I can't see booze doing that, either.

  • ||

    Depends on the strain of weed you are smoking. There are two strains of weed: sativa, which is the more energizing, trippier strain that will also cause paranoia in some; and indica, which is the mellow, groovier strain that is much more like an intoxicant or a sedative than the sativa. I have a super-high indica strain that is like smoking Valium. I also tend to favor indica heavier strains for being a little less knocked on my ass (I have two of those that I use for more alert smoking).

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    When Fox News analyst Juan Williams noted that marijuana is legal in Colorado...

    Whenever anybody says that is when I blow a gasket. It is not legal there, it is just regulated differently. If it was legal, a bail of weed in the back of your truck would carry the same risk as a bail of hay.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Excellent point.

  • ||

    You could say something similar about alcohol if you're going to be pendantic.

    Alcohol isn't legal until making moonshine in my bathtub carries the same risk as making Kool-aid.

  • Drake||

    When Juan Williams is the logical guy in the room, you are in trouble.

  • Almanian!||

    But you gotta protect The Folks®!! The Folks®!!

  • Jordan||

  • Sevo||

    That's GOOOOD!

  • Almanian!||

    +in and out

  • Dave Krueger||

    If you have teenagers, do you want them to read where the best pot is in the state?...

    Most teenagers could probably write the pot critic's column for him.

    Poor O'Reilly. He is condemned to live in a world where only he recognizes his god-like infallibility in judging every other person on the planet.

  • Sevo||

    Missed this:
    "If you have teenagers, do you want them to read where the best pot is in the state?.."
    Naah. ASK 'em!

  • Ted S.||

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I can't help to think of that ad as the opening scene of a "very special" episode of Welcome Back Kotter.

  • Dweebston||

    Bring back the gravelly-voiced, tired-old-man PSA schtick.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Yo Mary Katharine Ham,

    Imma wreck dat azz.

    Love,
    Me.

  • Tman||

    Since we're piling on and frankly, he deserves it-

    Bill O'Reilly is a big blubbering vagina.

  • SIV||

  • Dweebston||

    I take offense to this.

    There's no chance an addict would make it to 17 in the free-wheeling dope-dealing Libertopia.

  • Generic Stranger||

    1) I seriously doubt that she really used Krokodil, because

    2) It's only a thing in Russia and the Urals area where heroin is hard to get but codine (one of the base ingredients) is available OTC.

    There's absolutely no reason to ship it out of that area, except if the media keeps hyping every fucking OD as krok and people elsewhere get curious about it.

  • PapaSnigz||

    I'm really surprised she lasted two months on that stuff, that's gotta be an award or something right?

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    So this is one of those threads where people stay on topic? OK, fine. My Second Amendment protection bill story can wait.

    I think oreilly shows how you can be a polarizing political lightning rod without being all that radical. Just throw in a few symbolic issues and get VERY ANGRY about them. He can start an argument about a newspaper column in denver. Meanwhile, people arguing over the deficit or war only wish they could attract so much passionate attention.

  • Dweebston||

    You missed the point. We've only cracked 50 comments because no one has had the decency to derail the thread. Not even PBP above.

  • Agile Cyborg||

    He's also the the putrid violated flesh on a bleating Reagan goatse.

  • Agile Cyborg||

    O'Reilly looks like his head got caught in an evangelical vise. He can barely scrape out some shadowy sliver of common sense with his face slash without the bible slapping it violently back into his pitted skull.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    O'Reilly looks like his head got caught in an evangelical vise

    Surely you mean Pontifical vise?

  • Jingo||

    I get pissed off at this too.
    Fox News is NOT evangelical.

    Bill O'Reily = Catholic
    Neil Cavuto = Catholic
    Sean Hannity = Catholic
    Juan Williams = raised Catholic (now=?)
    Geraldo Rivera = Catholic dad/Jewish mom

    The owners:
    Roger Ailes = goes Catholic mass weekly
    Rupert Murdoch = "I tend to go to Catholic church -- because my wife is Catholic"

    They, like Hitler and Mussolini, are Catholics, not Protestants.

    Please stop mixing up Catholics, who believe in a TOP-DOWN hierarchical system of a Pope commanding the followers (the Pope himself runs a government so Catholics can't be anti-government), with the decentralizing ideas of Protestantism.

    Without Protestants, Europe and indeed America would be in the grip of a top-down structure.

  • ||

    Although a drink featuring gin and Bailey's does not sound very appealing

    You had me at gin.

    Only flammable liquid that actually smells and tastes worse then gasoline.

  • ||

    Best gin drink is a negroni.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    If you're a racist.

  • Acosmist||

    Got the ingredients for that at home right now, will have to do while the roads are still icy.

  • Marc F Cheney||

    You speak truth to power.

  • Winston||

    Bashing O'Reilly and defending Mandela. Really going against the grain here.

  • RishJoMo||

    Dude seems to know whats going on man.

    www.Anon-Get.tk

  • Paul Pot||

    I would be totally surprised had Bull Orally had said anything else.

  • Anomalous||

    O'Reilly's favorite insult is "pinhead." Pot calling the kettle black.

  • MSimon||

    Is a pinhead of pot going to put you in the kettle?

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