Connecticut to Rescind Anti-Competitive Licensing Law for Movers

Credit: Mikescottwood11 | Wikimedia CommonsCredit: Mikescottwood11 | Wikimedia CommonsLast week the Connecticut General Assembly sent a bill (SB 190) to the governor that would remove one of the more egregious impediments to economic freedom in the state. Currently, new moving companies must convince a panel of bureaucrats that they won’t negatively impact existing movers before setting up shop.

From The Day:

Last year, the state Department of Transportation denied an application by Coutu Bros Movers of Rhode Island to expand into North Stonington because owner Bob Romano failed to prove "public convenience and necessity." In making its decision, the DOT took into account the potential impact on competitors.

"I found that to be an abomination," said state Rep. Sean Williams, R-Watertown.

"I just found the whole process with regard to moving companies to be ridiculous, because in their application, the DOT found that they did everything right," Williams said.

Romano demonstrated he had the necessary experience and money and no criminal convictions, according to the final decision on his application.

But two moving companies, Atherton & Sons Moving & Storage in Pawcatuck and Barnes Moving & Storage in Mystic, told the DOT that their business was down 30 to 40 percent since the housing market decline in 2007.

Unfortunately, the old standard will still apply to taxi, livery, and motorbus carriers.

It’s the second win for movers this week, as a U.S. District Court judge barred Kentucky from enforcing a similar provision in that state until he determines whether the “competitor’s veto” rule is constitutional.

From Watchdog.org:

In ordering the injunction, Judge Danny Reeves seemed to indicate skepticism about the role of the law.

“Over at least the last five years, the only groups to file protests to new applicants have been existing moving companies,” he wrote. “And it appears that the notice, protest, and hearing procedure in the statutes—both facially and as applied—operate solely to protect existing moving companies from outside economic competition.”

Over the same five years, there have been no challenges to new companies on the grounds of public health, safety or welfare, according to the judge.

The Pacific Legal Foundation, which is challenging the Kentucky law, has brought a similar suit in Nevada and has broken up moving cartels in Oregon and Missouri.

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  • Warrren||

    Dear God, this will lead to just piles of dead children.

  • Warrren||

    Or unjust piles of dead children. I'm not sure.

  • Generic Stranger||

    Or quite possibly piles of undead children.

  • Warrren||

    World War z!

  • ||

    "Zombie movies should never be fucking PG13"

    -Bill Burr

  • Dibbler||

    Is that not what every liberal prays for? I used to consider modern so-called liberals members of the stupid party, until the agenda advancing sadism they practice became clear.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Now anyone with a foldable rear seating can go and call himself a mover!
    This can't end well.

  • Warrren||

    Nuns will be raped!

  • SugarFree||

    And rapes will be nunned. Chaos.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Yes it's true, this man has no dick.

  • SugarFree||

    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

  • cw||

    "I found that to be an abomination," said state Rep. Sean Williams, R-Watertown.

    "I just found the whole process with regard to moving companies to be ridiculous, because in their application, the DOT found that they did everything right," Williams said.

    I would have said the law itself is an abomination. "Certificate of Need" laws are just gross protectionism and central planning. The very concept is an abomination to sound economics.

  • ||

    I'm all in favor of certificate of need laws, but I think the best way to prove their efficacy is to start with the lawyers. All lawyers practicing in all 50 states should be forced to prove that they are actually necessary using a long arduous system every single year.

  • robc||

    The very concept is an abomination.

    Fixed it.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    My grandfather was run down in the street because of a glut of moving vans in the area.

  • ||

    THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO AVOID THE FOOD TRUCKS THAT WERE PARKED SIDEWAYS!!!

  • cw||

    And only because of all the dead children lining the curbs because of your libertarian policies!

  • Warrren||

    If only there were actual roads to drive on!

  • KPres||

    Dead children? I think not. There's no way we'd let perfectly good factory workers go to waste like that, Jeeves.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Does anyone need to work as a mover?

  • Rhywun||

    It SF'ed its own link*. It is one of us now.

    *Not sure if failure to link counts as SF'ed. I say yes.

  • Generic Stranger||

    ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

    GOOBLE GOBBLE!

  • cw||

    Do we need bureaucrats handing out CON licenses? Maybe they should provide one to the taxpayer.

  • cavalier973||

    We should have parent licenses, where a person has to prove that he's not going to raise his child to be a freakin' statist before he is allowed to have a child.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Reality-based community stubs toe on reality.

    The mindless push to make low-level possession arrests distracts the police from serious crime, wastes billions of dollars and alienates minority citizens from the law. It also brings disastrous consequences for young people, as convictions can lead to fines, jail time and temporary loss of federal student financial aid — not to mention criminal records that make it difficult for them to find housing or work. The report urges the states to license and regulate marijuana, legalizing it for people 21 or older.

    Regardless of laws in individual states, federal officials and local police departments need to abandon policies that evaluate officers based on numerical arrest goals, which encourage petty arrests, along with illegal stops that violate the Fourth Amendment.

    This also means restructuring a main federal program that finances state and local efforts to enforce drug laws so that petty marijuana arrests are no longer counted as evidence of effective police performance. Beyond that, law enforcement agencies need to put an end to what is obviously a widespread practice of racial profiling.

    If only we knew who was responsible for this outrageous behavior.

  • cw||

    [...]federal officials and local police departments need to abandon policies that evaluate officers based on numerical arrest goals, which encourage petty arrests[....]

    I thought arrest quotas were illegal.

  • Cdr Lytton||

    They are. These are performance metrics. Totally different.

  • ||

    Once these minor tweaks are implemented, the WoD can be fought to successful victory.

  • JW||

    "Call H&R Movers. Never has it been cheaper to leave the state of Connecticut."

  • BMFPitt||

    The sad part is that these types of laws seem so utterly insane and indefensible that you'd think nobody would actually support them unless they were the ones financially benefitting.

    Yet I've met plenty of people who do.

  • cw||

    I'll bet most people have never heard of CON laws, and since most people don't own or operate a business, they are OK with being ignorant of them.

  • Warrren||

    Ignorance of the law is an excuse!

  • Fluffy||

    Yup.

    They immediately say, "If lots of movers enter the market they'll have to cut prices to compete. And that will hurt workers!"

    Because naturally in every field with a growing number of firms, wages go down. Happens every time.

  • cw||

    And wouldn't cutting prices be good for, you know, the consumer?

  • Warrren||

    No, decreased prices lead to less consumption which leads to higher prices which leads to less consumption.

  • cw||

    So, what you're saying is: by not understanding statist logic you will understand it!

  • Warrren||

    You are exactly incorrect! Congratulations you are in the club now!

  • ||

    People are remarkably resistant to the logic that low prices mean more money for consumers which means more spending on other stuff, which means more jobs for workers in general.

    Equally bizarrely, they also believe that higher prices will not lead to less spending on other stuff.

    There is some major short circuiting going on. Apparently, the magical "consumers" wallets always have sufficient cash to buy everything they want. No matter what anything costs.

  • Fluffy||

    OT Shocking Confession:

    I ate a Pizza Hut pizza this weekend.

    Hear me out! They have some special where it's $5.55 for a large. So my wife said, "Let's try it."

    First problem: The "large" at Pizza Hut is literally the size of a dinner plate. I've had omelets bigger than a large Pizza Hut pizza. A large pizza should be 8 full size slices, period.

    Second problem: It was inedible garbage.

    Congratulations on your promotion, Pizza Hut. Your clever $5.55 marketing ploy has fixed it so I will not be in one of your establishments again for a minimum of a decade. Maybe if I'm in southeast Asia and my two choices are eat bugs or buy one of your pizzas, you'll see me again. But not otherwise.

  • PapayaSF||

    There oughta be a law!! (I thought pizza sizes were customary/traditional, but apparently not.)

    Amusing trivia: when the very first Pizza Hut was starting, they didn't have a name. Their sign was one of those plastic things that advertised (IIRC) Coke, with a blank line for a business name. "Pizza" took up all but four spaces. For the rest of the name, the only word they could think of that would fit was "Hut."

  • SIV||

    I woulda gone with "Pizza Now". Murfreesboro, TN has a "Sir Pizza", IIRC, with a Knight logo.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    This weekend I had a pulled pork pizza from Boston Pizza.
    It was amazing.
    That is all.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    OT Shocking Confession:

    I ate a Pizza Hut pizza this weekend.

    a) Chris Christie?

    b) Their roof tiles constipate me.

  • ||

    Good god, man. Pizza hut has been inedible garbage for well over 10 years.

  • Rabban||

    But if you are actually in south east Asia, Pizza Hut is actually a high class restaurant. I kid you not. Think Demolition Man Taco Bell, and you are on the right track to the market segment of Pizza Hut in southeastern Asia.

  • JW||

    If only we knew who was responsible for this outrageous behavior.

    "Who are the useless twats who keep voting for the parties of Moe, Larry and Curly?"

  • The Late P Brooks||

    “Over at least the last five years, the only groups to file protests to new applicants have been existing moving companies,” he wrote. “And it appears that the notice, protest, and hearing procedure in the statutes—both facially and as applied—operate solely to protect existing moving companies from outside economic competition.”

    The system works!

  • Warrren||

    OT: Lefty at Kos reposts his 75 benefits of socialism. Enjoy the ignorance of the fact that many of the things he lists have been done and done better by the private sector.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....ed-America

  • cw||

    War has "improved America"?

    I mean, I realize that we had to fight to gain independence, but I wouldn't include such a broad category as an "improvement."

    Sheesh.

  • cw||

    OMG, he wrote included farm subsidies.

    And I thought leftists supposedly hated the CIA and FBI.

  • KPres||

    He included corporate subsidies, for god's sake (tells you a lot about what Dems really think, though).

    Anyway, everything on that list is shit. Literally, every single program is bloated and inefficient, and usually corrupt. If somebody benefits from one them, it's only because somebody else is paying for it.

  • cw||

    Dear God, there are so many items on that list that are either totally unnecessary or could easily be taken up by the private sector. Or both, like in the case of the Postal Service.

    This guy's probably never even examined the libertarian arguments against these items being under government control.

  • General Butt Naked||

    And how are most of those things socialism?

    Has the term been redefined to include anything the government spends money on?

  • ||

    Yes.

  • General Butt Naked||

    58. The Department of Homeland Security - Created after the terrorist attacks on 9/11, this heavily federally funded department of the U.S. government helps protect us from future terrorist attacks. This is the third largest department within the United States government.

    That government cock ain't gonna suck itself, good thing for kos-kiddies.

    69. Peace Corps - The Peace Corps is a volunteer program run by the government that helps people outside of the US to understand our culture as well as helping us learn about other cultures. However they are more well known for their work with economic and social development in less-fortunate countries. Sounds very Christian for being a socialist program, huh?

    Who fucking cares if it's christian or not? Oh, I forgot, smug retards think the only people who disagree with them are teabaggin' fundamentalists.

    So smug, yet so wrong.

  • KPres||

    Yeah, the peace corps has been around for 50 years and had little to no effect on the standard of living in 3rd world countries. It wasn't until evil profit-seeking corporations and capitalists started investing in them over the past 10-15 years that you actually saw real and sustained development.

    I think Adam Smith had something to say about this phenomenon.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Yup, it's nothing more than government provided resume padding service for rich kids.

  • KPres||

    True. Plus, and as everyone knows, markets always fail to provide rich lefties with enough guilt-ridden self-loathing or pompous self-righteousness, so government programs have to step in to meet the shortfall.

  • cavalier973||

    It doesn't sound Christian at all. The Bible clearly says "thou shalt not steal"; it doesn't qualify the statement with "unless you give the proceeds to the needy among you."

  • Calidissident||

    I read a comment on reddit earlier today (I think on a private prison article) that said something to the effect of "has there ever been a single example of the private sector doing something previously done by the government at lower cost and with better service?"

    I wanted to pound my head against a very hard object

  • General Butt Naked||

    Maybe he meant the opposite, because if you flip it around it's very true.

  • KPres||

    Well, how many examples are there of the private sector doing something previously done by government, period? The state doesn't usually let go of an industry once it's got it's claws into it.

  • Calidissident||

    There are some examples, and a lot in communist or former communist countries, and they're almost universally big successes.

  • John Jay.||

    Well, private prisons might be one example, but not one libertarians can be especially proud of.

    (Incidentally, is there a libertarian argument for private prisons? I'll admit to not knowing much about the issue, but it seems to me that if the state is going to deprive someone of their freedom, then the state (that is, the taxpayers) damn well better be prepared to pay for it.)

  • Calidissident||

    Private prisons, at the same time, aren't a good example for leftists looking to discredit the efficiency of free markets. The prison system, by definition, can never be a free market capitalist system. And leftists also ignore the police officer and prison guard unions, bureaucrats, etc. who all benefit from a corrupt criminal justice system, regardless of whether prisons are private or not (and it's not like all American prisons are private)

  • John Jay.||

    Right, the taxpayers are paying for the prisons no matter what (the obviousness of this hit me shortly after I posted).

    I'd still argue that prisons should always be state-owned, if only because we've seen how out of control the criminal justice system can get, and as difficult as it already is to bring about meaningful reforms, a good starting point is to at least try to minimize the number of people directly profiting from it.

  • SIV||

    They outlawed convict leasing. Incarceration used to turn a profit.

  • C. Anacreon||

    FedEx

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Where dumbass shoots himself in the foot:

    34. IRS - I know, the IRS is about as popular and well liked in America as a hemorrhoid, but think about it. The IRS is the reason that we have anything. The IRS collects taxpayer funds for the federal government. The government then dispenses these funds to our military, states, and social programs. If there is no one collecting taxes, no one will pay them.

    Socialism requires taxes, which in turn requires force, because, as per this champion of socialism, no one will pay them.

  • KPres||

    You'll notice that his post is titled "The Benefits of Socialism", not "The Costs/Benefits of Socialism". There's a reason he doesn't include that part of the balance sheet.

    He must be part of the 47%.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    but think about it. The IRS is the reason that we have anything.

    Derp!

    Someone get this douche some Bastiat stat.

  • KPres||

    We don't need the IRS. We have the Fed!!

  • Warrren||

    We'll split the books into many multiple parts and each send him a section. In that way we maximize our employment.

  • John Jay.||

    Socialism.

    There is nothing more feared and hated in America.

    The word alone sends shivers down the spine of the American people.

    Those three syllables...

    We're off to an outstanding start.

  • PapayaSF||

    Socialist innumeracy in action! The calculation problem strikes again!

  • KPres||

    I like the FDR quote at the end...

    "Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a president and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country" - FDR

    Jesus fucking Christ, have you ever met the average voter, Frank? How the hell is this fact supposed to engender confidence in the state?

  • cavalier973||

    Of course Socialism benefits some people at the expense of others; usually it benefits those in the government at the expense of everyone else.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

  • Ted S.||

    You read Macleans? What kind of a monster are you?

  • SIV||

    A sap-swilling,seal-clubbing, beaver-trapping foreign one.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    don't forget poutine eating

  • PapayaSF||

    It amazes me that in all the anti-automobile zealotry among politicians in SF and elsewhere, nobody considers ditching the taxi medallion system and allowing more cabs (and jitneys). In SF even calling for a taxi might not get you one unless you are going to the airport. If taxis were more plentiful and cheaper they'd actually get more business, and fewer people would need cars. But supposedly we need to "protect the drivers" (even though they are usually exploited by the medallion owners), and there is the idea that the streets would be clogged with unoccupied taxis.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    I've found that the hardcore anti-automobile zealots are more into co-operative car sharing schemes as the "necessary way to own a car".

  • PapayaSF||

    I have been seeing many Lyft cars (with the big pink moustaches). And gadzooks, those new Fiats are incredibly popular around here.

  • Sevo||

    PapayaSF| 6.16.13 @ 8:29PM |#
    "I have been seeing many Lyft cars (with the big pink moustaches)."

    And the SF gov't is going to do everything it can to get rid of them.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    People who yell stupid things after tee shots are worse than Hitler.

  • Warrren||

    Get up!

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Warning-TL;DR

    Come on in, Shriek, and get your good fapping hand out, because I need to shit on Dick Cheney.

    Today, or yesterday, doesn't really matter which, Dick Cheney was on Fox News Sunday and he made several asinine comments, but these stuck out the most:

    Well, I'm deeply suspicious obviously because he went to China. That's not a place where you ordinarily want to go if you're interested in freedom, and liberty and so forth. So, it raises questions whether or not he had that kind of connection before he did this.

    Freedom and liberty are under assault right here in the good ol' USA. Seeking safe harbor with China does not imply any dealings with the Chinese government, but it does make him smart in that he's gone to a country that is not under the American military aegis. Besides, why would someone stay in a country where the powers that be have almost unanimously declared him worthy of life imprisonment or death for having a sudden bout of conscience?

    The other concern I have is whether or not he had help from inside the agency. That is to say, was there somebody else in NSA who had access to a lot of this stuff and passed it to him? That's presumably one of the things to look at in the course of the investigation.

    Yes, Dick. Let's root out the traitors who dare to inform the American people of what sort of shenanigans their government is involved in.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    I believe [Rand Paul] is wrong. Two-thirds of the Congress today, Chris, wasn't here on 9/11 or for that period immediately after when we got into this program. And the reason we got into it was because we've been attacked -- and worse attack than Pearl Harbor. Nineteen guys armed with box cutters and airline tickets.

    Wave that bloody shirt, Dick! Wave it good!

    The worry is that the next attack, there will expect -- we then expected, not expected today, sooner or later, there's going to be another attack and they'll have deadlier weapons than ever before, that we've got to consider the possibility of a nuclear device or biological agent. We made the decision based on 9/11 that we no longer had a law enforcement problem, we are at war. And Congress, in fact, authorizes the president to use military force to deal with the crisis.

    Paranoia, cowardice, and wild-assed speculation are all virtues in Dick Cheney's America. What if the TERRAHISTS get their hands on an ICBM or a rail gun? Then we'll REALLY be sorry.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Well, I don't believe it is. In fact, that's not private information. According to the Supreme Court, those are business records of the telephone company. You don't go into that box of numbers, if you will, to look for connections unless you break up some place a suspicious number. You capture Khalid Sheik Mohamed in Karachi, or bin Laden in Abbottabad and Pakistan. You look at their cell phones, you look at their rolodex in effect and see what numbers had connections back into the United States. And by preserving that database you are able to come back, check and see if they have been talking to somebody inside.

    Yeah sure, Dick, now explain why the NSA did as much monitoring in Germany and China as they did in the USA.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Now, as everybody has been associated with the program said if we had this before 9/11, when there were two terrorists in San Diego, two hijackers able to use that program, that capability against the target we might have been able to prevent 9/11. So, we're not -- the allegation is out there that somehow we've got all this personal information on Aunt Fanny or Chris Wallace or whoever it might be and reported through it. Not true, that's not the way it works. It's been explained by Mike Hayden who was involved in setting it up. By Keith Alexander who is a superb guy, both of them are now running the program that we have collected a lot of numbers, but they are business records and the phone companies, they have been determined by the Supreme Court not to be private individual records, the way they are oftentimes described by critics.

    Hindsight is 20/20, eh, Dick? If we had the surveillance state before 9/11 it wouldn’t have happened, well that’s nice and it’s a good thing that the federal Panopticon is so on top of things that no one detonated any explosives during the Boston Marathon….oh wait, someone did. The case Cheney refers to is Smith v. Maryland (1979), and it’s not just phone records that are the issue. The NSA has claimed the power to seize emails, chats, pictures, and internet postings.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    WALLACE: So what right do you think the American people have to know what government is doing?
    CHENEY: Well, they get to choose, they get to vote for senior officials, like the president of the United States, or like the senior officials in Congress. And you have to have some trust in them. You don't go out when you find an intelligence operation trying to collect data, and in effect tell the enemy what you're doing. It would be a dumb idea. It makes the program significantly less effective and it reveals to our adversaries crucial information that they shouldn't have.

    TRUST US. We’re TOP MEN. But it’s interesting that Dick Cheney, in trying to defend not telling the American people what their government is doing, implies that the American people are the enemy.
    Oh, and trust is earned, not given.
    Here’s the entire simple-minded mess. Enjoy.

  • Warrren||

    Grrrrrrr. TOP! MEN!

  • Sevo||

    Doesn't matter. 4th Amendment; read it.
    I don't care if you claim fifty attacks were thwarted; 4th Amendment.
    You (security people) are charged with doing a job. Well, do it and keep in mind you can't spy on me; 4th Amendment, assholes.
    Do the job you're paid to do and quit whining it's easier if you spy on me. 4th Amendment, assholes!

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Now you know why I call him Dickless Cheney.

    Anyone who believes anything that fucking snake says is insane.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug| 6.16.13 @ 9:36PM |#
    "Now you know why I call him Dickless Cheney."

    Yeah, 'cause you have daddy problems, dipshit.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    What does that even fucking mean?

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug| 6.16.13 @ 9:48PM |#
    "What does that even fucking mean?"

    Tell us about your daddy again, dipshit.

  • Hyperion||

    He's about on the same level with you, a team playing sycophant, except with money. That's the only thing the separates the two of you, dollars.

  • Ted S.||

    Is there something up with my ISP, or did you just SF a pair of links?

    (Sorry, there really has been something up with my ISP this evening.)

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Might not be you, NutraSweet looms eternal.

    NSA spying map

    Dick Cheney transcript

  • ||

    It's in the hole!!!

  • ||

    That comment did not go as planned.

  • Hyperion||

    Currently, new moving companies must convince a panel of bureaucrats that they won’t negatively impact existing movers before setting up shop

    WTF? I thought the government is supposed to be protecting us from monopolies, not creating them.

    Oh, dear, CT, what blasphemies do you speaketh? I guess that the O'Malley is going to have to come up there and have a talk with yall about how to be good blue state crony-bots.

  • cavalier973||

    No, the rules clearly state that if you have all the properties of one color group, you have a monopoly, and can start building houses.

    If you have the orange properties and the railroads, your chances of winning go up exponentially.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    New app could let citizens report illegal parking, get cut of fine

    Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech.....z2WQjSKeGN

  • Hyperion||

    Oh joy, one could make a career of it, professional snitch.

    Anyone taking advantage of that should be tarred and feathered and put on public display.

    Seriously, I don't really want to live in the same universe with such low life scum.

  • Acosmist||

    Bull. Free riders can suck it.

  • Warrren||

    I'm trying to be outraged but I can't just get there.

    Maybe because I despise inconsiderate parkers and want them to be hurt in some way.

    Of course that doesn't excuse the rampant dickbaggery that municipalities get up to in regards to finding ways to steal from people.

  • Sevo||

    No sympathy for those that report the sort of parking listed in the link, but:
    That street is paid for by everyone buying gas; why do some people figure it's a storage area for their autos?
    If you own something, don't you provide a place to store it?
    Parking in general would be much easier if people stored the cars they own off the street, or were charged for the use of the street space to store them.

  • Hyperion||

    Maybe because I despise inconsiderate parkers and want them to be hurt in some way

    Umm, not sure where you live, but that happens on a frequent basis here in Balmer. People get towed, and again, and again, and again, and they still do it. I once knew someone who had been towed 9 times, 16 speeding tickets, and still did not learn anything from it.

    Those people are just stupid. But what they are proposing here is creepy as hell, 1984 in real life.

    I get pissed at stupid drivers in traffic all of the time. Never once have I ever wished that I could turn them in for profit. Fucking sick.

  • Warrren||

    I sense a Tulpa storm coming.

    This issue is really low on my outrage list to start with and if I owned or ran a parking concession I would employ certain methods to price the scarce resource that are parking spaces and I could see a bounty system as part of it.

    Of course I like bounty systems in general as a tool in a decentralized private system of justice.

  • Hyperion||

    if I owned or ran a parking concession I would employ certain methods to price the scarce resource that are parking spaces and I could see a bounty system as part of it.

    They already employ that method in the garage that I park in near my office. It's called $12 a day.

    Now where the fuck does a bounty come into that system?

    And BTW, it's not a decentralized anything when a massive centralized authority pays people to rat each other out for cash.

  • Warrren||

    Now where the fuck does a bounty come into that system?

    Depends on the business model of the concession.

    And BTW, it's not a decentralized anything when a massive centralized authority pays people to rat each other out for cash.

    I know. I was talking about not what we have to deal with now.

  • ||

    Oh fuck. One of my FB friends (and IRL acquaintance) just referred to PZ Meyers as "our boy".

    The other friend of mine to whom she directed this comment replied by linking to a picture of the two of them with that stupid fuck.

  • Ted S.||

    Is that person still your friend?

  • ||

    Yes. I am (too) tolerant.

  • Hyperion||

    FB friends

    There's the first of your problems.

    Only one word:

    DELETE

  • ||

    I usually just hide their posts from my news feed, in case having contact with them should come in handy in the future -- in fact the aforementioned friend works somewhere I might be interested in.

    One time I decided to grant forgiveness en masse and add all but a few friends back into my feed. Big mistake.

  • Hyperion||

    NSA thanks you for feeding their PRISM monster.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    I would sooner give amnesty to a million illegal Mexicans than one Facebook idiot.

  • Warrren||

    One three syllable word.

  • John C. Randolph||

    Isn't preventing competition one of the things that evil private companies are supposed to do without government to intervene and force them to call off the goons?

    -jcr

  • Sevo||

    CALVIN WOODWARD Tries to make apologies for Obozo: ("... Obama has churned out an impressive stream of directives flowing from his promise to deliver "the most transparent administration in history."...[bullshit]), and then admits he's a lying asshole: (..."It [Obozo administration] prosecutes leakers like no administration before it. It exercises state-secrets privileges to quash court cases against it. It hides a vast array of directives and legal opinions underpinning government actions — not just intelligence and not all of it about national security"...)
    I presume he had to write the first lies to keep from being tossed from the favored ones.
    Lefty ignoramuses will love the false apologies. Anyone who can read English will not.
    http://www.sfgate.com/news/pol.....603419.php

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Black Sabbath back at top of album charts after 43 years

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    It was 43 years ago that Black Sabbath last hit the top spot with Paranoid in 1970 and new album 13 reunites original members Osbourne, Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler for the first time in 35 years.
  • Hyperion||

    Hah, the beginning of my life of hedonism:

    Sabbath N.I.B.

    I was 13, hell yeah..

  • Boisfeuras||

    It is amazing how good the debut Sabbath album was... and they recorded it in one day. And then recorded Paranoid seven months later!

  • Hyperion||

    Oh, and BTW, AP, I guess it's time for me to give you Canuckistanians credit for something:

    Bytor and the Snow Dog

  • Ted S.||

    Always with the racist Sabbaths.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    "I'm smarter than you," ch 642,926

    “This is going to be really transformative,” Mr. Holloway said. “You want to get on a trajectory where you’re not sending anything to landfills.”

    The residential program will initially work on a voluntary basis, but officials predict that within a few years, it will be mandatory. New Yorkers who do not separate their food scraps could be subject to fines, just as they are currently if they do not recycle plastic, paper or metal.

    Mr. Bloomberg, an independent, leaves office at the end of the year, and his successor could scale back or cancel the program. But in interviews, two leading Democratic candidates for mayor, Christine C. Quinn, the City Council speaker, and Public Advocate Bill de Blasio, expressed strong support for the program — including the plan to eventually make it mandatory.

    Bloomberg uber alles!

  • Sevo||

    “This is going to be really transformative,”

    'Nuff said.
    Nothing worth reading after that; obvious lefty with agenda.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Now you know why I call him Dickless Cheney.

    Because he forces Obama to spy on us?

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    So a show about the War of the Roses premiered on the BBC Tonight.
    Wasn't Game of Thrones supposed to be mimicked on the War of the Roses?

  • Virginian||

    Other then Lannister and Stark kinda sounding like Lancaster and York, I don't see much more connections. But I know very little about that period of history.

  • ||

    I think it's more like inspired by the War of the Roses.

  • Tman||

    Yet another example of the
    War on work.

    Also, moving furniture for a living is a terrible, yet potentially lucrative job. Especially moving rich peoples credenzas for Two Men and A Truck. In August in Nashville. I appreciate air conditioning in a way that's probably unhealthy, but it paid the rent and then some.

    Nothing wrong with slinging couches for a living.

  • Sevo||

    Checking, see no posting of it:
    "The Guardian newspaper says the British eavesdropping agency GCHQ repeatedly hacked into foreign diplomats' phones and emails when the U.K. hosted international conferences,..."
    No great surprise; the Brits have no concept of freedoms. Hell, the idiots still bow to a monarch, and no royal is gonna get invited to a Mensa meeting.
    http://www.sfgate.com/news/wor.....603940.php
    The US, OTOH, is supposed to have some concept of freedoms, according to that worn-out piece of paper.
    Yeah, shreek and shithead: Bush and all that. How about Obozo?

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    A reason for aspiring writers to read Dan Brown:

    If you are going to learn from other writers don’t only read the great ones, because if you do that you’ll get so filled with despair and the fear that you’ll never be able to do anywhere near as well as they did that you’ll stop writing. I recommend that you read a lot of bad stuff, too. It’s very encouraging. “Hey, I can do so much better than this.” Read the greatest stuff but read the stuff that isn’t so great, too. Great stuff is very discouraging.

    EDWARD ALBEE
  • ||

    A little late, but Julian Sanchez has posted a response to Epstein and Pilon's claim that the outrage over the NSA is much ado about nothing. It is titled, imaginatively, A Reply to Epstein & Pilon on NSA’s Metadata Program:

    I had not, initially, intended to respond directly: Cato scholars often disagree among themselves—as Roger and I long have in this area—and normally it suffices for us each to state our own affirmative arguments and let readers decide for themselves which is most convincing. However, as I now see that some observers—and in particular, a significant number of libertarians—have mistakenly taken this to mean that “Cato” supports the NSA program, which continues to dominate the news, I feel it’s necessary to say something here about why I (and, as I believe, the majority of my colleagues) reject that view.
  • SeaCaptain(Yokeltarian)||

    Go Spurs Go!

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