Obama: Not Playing This Debt Ceiling Game Again

Last year, a faction of Republican fiscal hawks kept Congress from rubber-stamping a debt ceiling increase in the summer. The Congress eventually did raise the debt ceiling though, setting automatic reductions in spending growth that form the spending portion of the fiscal cliff. Many of those fiscal hawks have now been ousted from committee seats influential in the budget process. Two in particular, Michigan’s Justin Amash and Kansas’ Tim Huelskamp, voted against Paul Ryan’s budget in their time on the Budget Committee, now cut short. That budget passed committee 19-18, and was then passed by the Republican House. It set something like automatic debt ceiling increases for the next decade.

Now, the Obama Administration has proposed the president take the power to raise the debt ceiling into his own hands. Today the president told business leaders that negotiating over raising the debt ceiling next year, when it's going to be hit again, "<a href= _warns_gop_against_debt_ceiling_fight_i_will_not_play_that_game.html">is not a game that I will play.”

In 2006, Senator Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling, saying:"The fact that we are here today to debate raisingAmerica’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

Leadership failure and reckless fiscal policies. Sounds right.

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  • ||

    Today the president told business leaders that negotiating over raising the debt ceiling next year, when its going to be hit again, "is not a game that I will play."

    Obama, Washington tuff gai. Maybe he could add "I will totally pwn Congress if they mess with me".

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The fact is he can totally pwn [sic] Congress in the worst way they can imagine: public relations. He owns the press and they control the narrative.

  • ||

    For them to allow him this would be insane, even beyond the currently high insanity standards of Congress. If they make themselves irrelevant, all the power they get from being Congresspeople goes away.

    It's one thing to give him blanket authorization to go bomb some children so that they don't have to make any decisions. It's quite another to give up some of their control of the purse strings.

  • Xenocles||

    Yup. Republicans are holding the middle class tax rates hostage in order to get tax cuts for the rich. Don't you dare suggest that Democrats are holding the middle class tax rates hostage in order to get tax hikes for the rich.

  • Drake||

    I'm getting a tax cut? Cool.

  • Tman||

    He's not falling for the banana in the tailpipe again.

  • ||

    Fruit porn?

  • Tman||

  • Tulpa Doom||

    Yeah, like I'm going to click on that.

  • Tman||

    It's SFW Tulpa. Eddie Murphy? Beverly Hills Cop?

    Sheesh.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Tulpy no likey Google Chrome with Reasonable extension? Get it, run it, never get surprised by a link again.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    I don't use Reasonable because I'm on the troll list and can't see my own posts. Thanks to the wonders of crowdsourcing, which doesn't work quite as well when the crowd contains a bunch of technically proficient a-holes.

  • ||

    You get to set your own list Tulpa. For example you aren't blocked on mine.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    Yes, but I'm blocked by default, or at least I was when I used it last about a year ago. I refuse to support a groupthink-enforcement filter.

  • Coeus||

    Yes, but I'm blocked by default, or at least I was when I used it last about a year ago.

    Never been blocked on mine. And I've never fucked with the defaults.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    I can't believe you're on the troll list! I don't always agree with you, but you're not a troll. Mendacious, stubborn, disingenuous. Yes. But not a troll. ;-)

  • tarran||

    I'm one of the guys who has him on the blocked list...

    He is often a troll - that business about heroin users forcing newbies to OD in order to avoid being prosecuted for heroin prosecution, is a classic bit of trolling - saying shit to rile people up. He probably thought he was being all Socratic by making people think outside the box or something, but it was straight up trolling.

    I know he isn't trolling even 50% of the time. But he is annoying 95% of the time; I think he is what you get when you take Dave W (remember him?), dial up the intelligence, dial the earnestness down to 0 and increase the peevishness to 11.

    One day I realized that reading him was an utter waste of time; that contending with him didn't sharpen my wits; that his insights were generally pedestrian when right, generally wrong when unique; that he provided no camaraderie, humor or joy to the thread. That's why I decided to filter him out, and I'm pretty unsurprised that other people are also finding his words not worth bothering with.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    Not worth bothering with, yet you continually bring me up out of the blue.

    Methinks you took it personally one of those times I shattered your fantasies about Saga Iceland being a model for our society.

  • 0073735963||

    I love that Tulpa trolled someone who thinks he's a troll, in an effort to argue he isn't a troll. So deluded.

    I also love that Tulpa is so butthurt and stupid that he actually attempted to troll someone who has him blocked.

  • Rhywun||

    Me neither - not blocked on mine.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Yeah my first thought was also an image of Michelle (or possibly Uncle Joe) sticking a banana up Obama's butt.

    I...I need to incif Episiarch.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    No one remembers BHC?

  • Tman||

    For serious. What has the world come to.

  • ||

    I knew exactly what it was, do not despair.

  • ||

    I knew what it was too. I couldn't remember any other lines form the movie, so I went with Fruit Porn.

  • Hugh Akston||

    I should probably see it. Nick Nolte is the Market.

  • ||

    That's 48 Hours YOU SAVAGE.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Huh? Then who the fuck is the honky in Beverly Hills Cop?

  • Tman||

    I weep for our future.

    Nick Nolte?

  • Hugh Akston||

    NICK NOLTE WAS THE SEXIEST MAN ALIVE IN 1992

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    Judge Reinhold was the goofy young cop, Ronny Cox was the lieutenant. I can't remember the name of the guy that played the villain or the cop sergeant.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Ronny Cox was the lieutenant..

    Damn, what a good (and totally underrated) actor.

  • ||

  • amelia||

    I found Judge Reinhold to be goofy-sexiy, even when he was pathetic in Fast Times.

    Also the chinless Anthony Edwards. He was adorable in The Sure Thing, which was overall only mildly entertaining. Daphne Zuniga, ugh.

  • ||

    Lisa Eilbacher?

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Unfortunately, and I don't think you're going to like this, but the honky in BHC is... Judge Reinhold.

  • Hugh Akston||

    I got nothing against Judge Reinhold.

    Also anything is worth seeing if Ronny Cox is in it, especially if it involves Eddie Murphy being blasted to pieces with shotguns and then rebuilt as the ultimate law-enforcement cyborg.

  • ||

    Beverly Hills Robocop

    I'd buy that for 20 million dollars!

  • Lord at War||

    Jeebus!

    No love for Marvin Dorfler?

    (AKA John Ashton)

  • Lord at War||

    I'm Outraged!

    Dennis Quaid's brother in "Breaking Away"?

    Eric Stoltz's dad in "Some Kind of Wonderful"?

  • Cdr Lytton||

    Peter Weller's monotone delivery ending with that Axl Foley laugh?

    Also, Dick Jones kicks Gordon Gekko's ass in the '80's businessman category.

  • Hugh Akston||

    You know, Obama could get so much more accomplished if he didn't have those pesky obstructionists in Congress blocking his every goal, or those naysayers in the Supreme Court second-guessing his every move.

    imagine the possibilities if it was just him and America.

  • db||

    America was not unresponsive.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    Debt ceiling is game to you?! How bout I take your little budget and SMASH!

  • Xenocles||

    If neither of them blinks on this, what are the chances of the Treasury doing that trillion-dollar coin trick some of the pundits called for last time?

  • Tulpa Doom||

    What amazes me about this is that BO is again fucking up a free lunch. He has the GOP bent over a barrel on the fiscal cliff stuff. He was going to get the tax increases he wants. And now he has to start on this tack which the House is not going to agree to and the American people will balk at, since it's a relatively easy issue to understand and there isn't really any way to positively spin it in BO's favor.

    Just like in 2009 with the death panels. They could have had a public option in Obamacare if he hadn't spawned the Tea Party by overreaching when he had 60 senators and a House majority on his side.

  • Drake||

    He really is a terrible negotiator and political operative. Probably why no piece of legislation in Illinois or the U.S. Congress has his name on it.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Yay TEAM!

    That obsequious little nut-licker Dana Milbank has a nice little love poem over at the Washington post breathlessly gloating about how the Ascended One has completely routed the Republitards, and now will be shoveling money into the furnace unimpeded.

    FORWARD, LEMMINGS!

  • Heroic Mulatto||

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  • JW||

    Nice.

  • Dweebston||

    And because I must, ^every day

  • mad libertarian guy||

    how the Ascended One has completely routed the Republitards

    I simply don't understand that narrative. How is keeping the status quo, Obama as President, a Team BLUE Senate, and a Team RED House, some huge rout? I would stipulate that the election, at large (including the various state votes concerning pot and gay marriage) was a pretty sound beating of social conservatism, but there is no "rout" of any kind that makes the power balance any different than it was on the day before the election.

  • Alex the wolf||

    US Constitution Section 8:

    "Congress shall have power (...) to borrow money on the credit of the United States (...)"

    Obama Constitution, only section:

    "The people speak through our beloved leader, who is never wrong. His will is the will of the people. Long live our great leader"

  • ||

    You left out the mandatory "PBUH". Report to the reeducation camps forthwith!

  • Tulpa Doom||

    "You know, a couple points, I don't think he understands the Constitution of the United States. He's the president of the United States, you don't say, 'you'll get your chance.'"

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    If the Executive branch can just raise the debt ceiling whenever it wants, is there really any point to having a debt ceiling? It would just be another charade in a town already chock-full of charades.

    Indeed, I wonder what purpose Congress serves. The U.S. government doesn't have budgets any more. They may as well just stop pretending and crown Obama king.

  • Almanian.||

    Raising the Roof: Jobs Created or Saved

    FTW

  • BarryD||

    I stayed within my budget this month!

    When I spent $2500 more than I planned, I just put it on a credit card and raised my budget to match.

  • C. Anacreon||

    Try my new system to solve your debt problems:
    "Don't buy stuff you cannot afford."

  • BarryD||

    That's so old-fashioned.

    BTW instead of Romney, the GOP should have run Dave Ramsey for President. Likable, smart, conservative, Christian but not a religious-scary type. He could have walked away with the recent election.

    Catch? I sincerely doubt he'd even consider doing it. :)

  • ant1sthenes||

    "The test of fascism is not one’s rage against the Italian and German war lords. The test is – how many of the essential principles of fascism do you accept and to what extent are you prepared to apply those fascist ideas to American social and economic life? When you can put your finger on the men or the groups that urge for America the debt-supported state, the autarchial corporative state, the state bent on the socialization of investment and the bureaucratic government of industry and society, the establishment of the institution of militarism as the great glamorous public-works project of the nation and the institution of imperialism under which it proposes to regulate and rule the world and, along with this, proposes to alter the forms of our government to approach as closely as possible the unrestrained, absolute government – then you will know you have located the authentic fascist.

  • ant1sthenes||

    But let us not deceive ourselves into thinking that we are dealing by this means with the problem of fascism. Fascism will come at the hands of perfectly authentic Americans, as violently against Hitler and Mussolini as the next one, but who are convinced that the present economic system is washed up and that the present political system in America has outlived its usefulness and who wish to commit this country to the rule of the bureaucratic state; interfering in the affairs of the states and cities; taking part in the management of industry and finance and agriculture; assuming the role of great national banker and investor, borrowing millions every year and spending them on all sorts of projects through which such a government can paralyze opposition and command public support; marshaling great armies and navies at crushing costs to support the industry of war and preparation for war which will become our greatest industry; and adding to all this the most romantic adventures in global planning, regeneration, and domination all to be done under the authority of a powerfully centralized government in which the executive will hold in effect all the powers with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society. There is your fascist. And the sooner America realizes this dreadful fact the sooner it will arm itself to make an end of American fascism masquerading under the guise of the champion of democracy.

  • ant1sthenes||

    It should be equally clear that all this is in no sense communism.... [A] reason for the confusion is the character of the men who are authentic and honest New Dealers but who were not communists.... They began to flirt with the alluring pastime of reconstructing the capitalist system. They became the architects of a new capitalist system. And in the process of this new career they began to fashion doctrines that turned out to be the principles of fascism. Of course they do not call them fascism, although some of them frankly see the resemblance. But they are not disturbed, because they know that they will never burn books, they will never hound the Jews or the Negroes, they will never resort to assassination and suppression. What will turn up in their hands will be a very genteel and dainty and pleasant form of fascism which cannot be called fascism at all because it will be so virtuous and polite.

    - John Flynn, "As We Go Marching", 1944

  • mustard||

    It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history.

    -- Ludwig Von Mises, "Liberalism", 1927

  • JW||

    "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

    -- H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices, First Series" (1919)

  • ant1sthenes||

    That sure sounds like a sentence that precedes a but.

    Hmmm...

    But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift. To view it as something more would be a fatal error.

    Yes, a good essay, reminding Fascist societies why, having defeated the greater evil of Marxism, they should abandon Fascism and return to the principles of liberalism.

  • ant1sthenes||

    I mean, fatally stupid insofar as anyone corrupted by absolute power will only cede it through death or defeat. But a noble effort.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    Ya, wtf mustard? Intentional misrepresentation?

  • Drake||

    Would there be any point in having Legislative and Judicial branches?

  • ||

    The tragic comedy playing out before my eyes is breathtaking. The dems are going full retard fascist and the republicans are stepping on their own dicks so badly that it cant be accidental. The media has gone into full propaganda mode and the voters are mostly just screaming "more free shit!".

    We are fucked. Thank you American voters. Thank you very fucking much.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    Reason #752 to bring back the firing squad:

    At 450 pounds, Ohio killer fights execution

    At about 450 pounds, Ohio death row inmate Ronald Post is so fat that his executioners won't be able to find veins in his arms or legs for the lethal injection, and he might even break the death chamber gurney, his lawyers say.

    Post, who gained close to 200 pounds on death row, is trying to stave off execution Jan. 16 for the 1983 killing of a motel clerk during a robbery, arguing that because of his obesity, an attempt to put him to death would amount to cruel and unusual punishment.

    Bullets have no trouble finding veins.

  • Almanian.||

    And let's use magnum or +P rounds, y'know, since he's fat. Just to be sure.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    38 Super or go home.

  • Generic Stranger||

    You're going to need a rifle cartridge of some kind for that. I'd say .308 Winchester with 180 grain, controlled expansion bullets, bare minimum.

  • BarryD||

    Actually, something big, heavy, and non-expanding, like you'd use on a buffalo, would work best.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    How the fuck do you gain 200 pounds in prison?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    p.s. just gas the motherfucker.

  • BakedPenguin||

    I still don't understand, if they are going to do executions, why they just don't use carbon monoxide. Cheap, relatively fast, and painless.

  • BarryD||

    Or carbon dioxide, which is going to kill us all!

  • Generic Stranger||

    Because that wouldn't be painless.

  • Generic Stranger||

    Nitrogen would probably be the best thing to use. It's also painless and it's not a greenhouse gas, so the envirowackos can't get upset over its use.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    "Yo momma's so fat, she could kill a motel clerk and they couldn't even execute her"

  • C. Anacreon||

    How the fuck do you gain 200 pounds in prison?

    Mmm.... gruel. Sweet nutritious gruel!

  • ||

    The prison could just put him on a calorie limited diet, force him to slim down via physics.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    They would probably litigate that, as forced hunger is probably an 8th amendment violation in current jurisprudence.

  • Lord at War||

    Why haven't we gone to carbon monoxide for executions?

    The criminal simply falls asleep- then he dies.

    WHY?

  • Lord at War||

    Damn-

    "Tastes like chicken" (Baked Penguin) beat me to it.

  • tarran||

    Actually you don't simply go to sleep.

    When I was a kid, my family almost died when a combination of a super trying to save money by scrimping on coal and the winds being just right resulted in our apartment getting a massive dose of CO from the furnace.

    It feels like you can't breathe. You can move air in and out of your lungs, but you feel like a plastic bag is wrapped around your head. I still remember that horrible feeling well.

    Nitrogen is probably the most sure fire way: you can completely displace the oxygen with it without creating a hazard for the executioners. So the guy immediately conks out, and 15 minutes later, his brain is pudding. Yet, the guys plopping his corpse in the coffin need take no special precautions.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    Why are we still trusting the government to kill people, or even choose whom to kill?

    WHY?

  • waaminn||

    Sounds like a pretty solid clue to me man. Wow.

    www.IP-Hiding.tk

  • Sevo||

    "Not Playing This Debt Ceiling Game Again"

    This asshole doesn't seem to realize he wasn't elected emperor.

  • ||

    Has over 50% of the voting public on his side. Media won't question him. Congress is too chicken shit to call him out and the SCOTUS won't uphold the Constitution.

    Sounds like an emperor to me.

  • Sevo||

    FDR, that lying, stinking asshole, managed to convince the voters that he was 'indispensable'.
    And then that egocentric piece of crap, knowing full well he was in poor health, left Truman with not a shred of information regarding all the deals FDR had cut.
    Had that shitbox been a CEO of a private company, congress would have been all over him. Instead, people mourned his death.
    Well, I don't. The world would be a better place if that asshole would have died from polio.

  • ||

    If I had to blame one man for the nation's current abysmal state, I would have to pick, hands down, FDR.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

  • Drake||

    The fucker thinks it's a game.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    It's a catchy campaign slogan, you have to admit.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a game of chess?

  • db||

    Funny, I find that statement to apply just as well to chess.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    So, you're saying you suck at chess?

    On a related note, my best game of chess ever was against a peer of average intelligence, in which I won in 6 moves.

  • MissMalevolent||

    Instead of, "Hope and Change" and "Forward" Obama's slogan should've been, "Do as I say, not as I do!"

    Course that would require him to let some truth fall from his lying ass lips.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    That's every statist's slogan, ever

  • Jerryskids||

    Dammitol - the spam filter bonobos won't let me post this not-really-off-topic-at-all link to a robber who filed a complaint with the police because somebody robbed him while he was busy robbing a store.

    "Reporter: But, hold on a second. The car wasn't yours but you are complaining and pressing charges, why?

    Robber: For the robbery over my robbery. This is lack of respect, mister.

    Reporter: So the money wasn't yours either?

    Robber: What do you mean it wasn't mine? Of course it was my money. I stole it! It was mine! Fruit of my lack of employment."

    I don't know why I can't link to the story at http://www.loweringthebar(dot)net/ - is it the (dot)net that agitates the little bastards so?

  • Sevo||

    "I stole it! It was mine!"
    Really? Some twit said that?

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Nope, turns out it was a fake story.

  • Sevo||

    Didn't read far enough down thread; got it.
    But even with Obozo in office, I had a hard time bleeving that.

  • Jerryskids||

    It's the (dot)net.

  • Jerryskids||

    And of course - as I'm trying to post this, loweringthebar has updated the story to indicate this is a fake news story. Don't think I'm not stupid.

  • JW||

    I have the sinking feeling that before this decade is out, at least one of us will be yelling from behind the fence, "AVENGE ME! AVEEEENGE MEEEeee!"

  • Paul.||

    I was yelling that over the fence to my neighbor last weekend.

  • mustard||

    Requiring congressional agreement to increase revenue is backwards and stupid. If you can't trust the president to decide how much revenue we need, you need to find a different president.

    The CEO of a big corporation doesn't have to ask the employees for permission to take out a loan. Why should the CEO of America?

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    hey mustard's back!
    where ya been?

  • Sevo||

    Archduke Pantsfan| 12.5.12 @ 10:31PM |#
    "hey mustard's back!
    where ya been?"
    Probably swimming in a septic tank. Why do you ask?

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    I was just messin with him/her/it

  • Generic Stranger||

    It's called separation of powers, dipshit, and it's done to prevent us from having a straight up dictator. Why don't you go back to daily kos and jerk off with the rest of the fascists?

  • Paul.||

    It's a troll. It doesn't really believe that.

  • Sernylan||

    "Why should the CEO of America?"

    Who said Obama is the CEO of America? Glorified comptroller maaabyeee, but certainly not a CEO.

  • Drake||

    He does have to present a budget to the Board of Directors - who have the power to fire his ass if he's incompetent.

  • Monkey's Uncle||

    "Now, the Obama Administration has proposed the president take the power to raise the debt ceiling into his own hands."

    Good. Give it to him. Hammer down over the cliff or whatever your favorite metaphor is. Let's go and get it over with. You say you want a revolution? Well you know. molṑn labé!

  • A Serious Man||

    Just got back from a lecture/book signing by Yaron Brook at the Ayn Rand Institute. I was disappointed that ARI is located in a shared office building on a non-descript street in Irvine rather than in an imposing castle with a giant statue of Atlas out front and child laborers employed as servants.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    Next time you go down there, be sure to take the time to go to the Noguchi garden. Fucking brilliant.

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/califo.....costa-mesa

  • Sevo||

    mustard| 12.5.12 @ 10:30PM |#
    "Requiring congressional agreement to increase revenue is backwards and stupid. If you can't trust the president to decide how much revenue we need, you need to find a different president.
    The CEO of a big corporation doesn't have to ask the employees for permission to take out a loan. Why should the CEO of America?"

    Awright, I'm gonna call sock.
    Sorta like the 'I stole it, I own it' upthread, this isn't passing the sniff test.
    Mustard is as stupid as we've ever seen here, but not even Mustard is *this* stupid, right?

  • Ken Shultz||

    The stoopid runs downhill.

    People see how stupid the president is, and suddenly they think they're knowledgeable and smart.

    They think, wow, if Obama can do it, I can do it, too!

    The sad part is that they're right. They could screw the country up just like Obama. Their error is in thinking that becasue Obama is the president, he must know what he's doing. He must be smart!

    "Requiring congressional agreement to increase revenue is backwards and stupid. If you can't trust the president to decide how much revenue we need, you need to find a different president.
    The CEO of a big corporation doesn't have to ask the employees for permission to take out a loan. Why should the CEO of America?"

    It's spoof-stupid. If you stayed up all night trying to think of something typical an idiot would say about this in support of Obama, you couldn't come up with a better example than that.

  • Sernylan||

    "It's spoof-stupid. If you stayed up all night trying to think of something typical an idiot would say about this in support of Obama, you couldn't come up with a better example than that."

    Therefore mustard == sockpuppet.

  • ||

    I kinda thought he was being sarcastic. However, I only vaguely remember mustard and don't remember his politics.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Well, it's definitely getting to the point now that you can't spoof the stupid shit Obama's followers say--because you can't spoof them saying something so stupid that they don't actually say in real life.

    Once it stops being a spoof and starts accurately reflecting reality, it stops being funny and starts becoming journalism.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Requiring congressional agreement to increase revenue is backwards and stupid. If you can't trust the president to decide how much revenue we need, you need to find a different president."

    You know who else ruled without a parliament's consent because of a budget dispute?

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Clinton?

  • Ken Shultz||

    It was Bismark.

    But you know who else didn't need the approval of parliament for his budget?

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Jacques Chirac?

  • Ken Shultz||

    Hitler!

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    There's a difference?

  • Paul.||

    My wife?

  • LTC(ret) John||

    WINNER

  • ||

    Adolph Hitler?

  • ||

    Sorry.

  • C. Anacreon||

    Adolph Hitler made meat tenderizer. Adolf Hitler is the Godwin one.

  • Sernylan||

    Maximilien Robespierre

  • Tulpa Doom||

    George Washington?

  • Mickey Rat||

    National Debt

    Obama: Not Playing This Debt Ceiling Game Again

    "Wilhuff Tarkin: [walking in with Darth Vader] The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.

    Tagge: That's impossible! How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?

    Tarkin: The regional governors now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station."

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