Nevada's Ron Paul Kerfuffle on the Convention Floor

Tampa - After Robert Terhune stopped noting how awesome Nevada is during the Republican National Convention's roll call of the states and started talking about how Ron Paul is "the champion of the Constitution" it became clear very quickly that this was not part of the usual pre-packaged script. Terhune, the boss of the Nevada delegation at the RNC, was about to deliver a majority of his state's delegates for Paul; a major violation of the rules, since Romney secured 20 delegates and Paul just eight.

"We proudly cast 17 votes for Congressman Ron Paul, five abstentions, and five for Romney," he proclaimed.  

On a day when the Paul faction of the party was left bruised and battered, Terhune and his rebel Nevada delegation provided a small silver lining by delivering a majority of their delegates to Ron Paul.

In pro wrestling they would call this a "shoot"; in the Paul world it was called courageous, and in the world of Nevada politics, at least for some, it was called the act of an "outlaw."

"Our chairman violated the rules by voting the way he did," said Wes Rice, the Nevada Rural County Caucus Chairman.

"I am very upset, they planned to be the people that followed the rules and then they violate them whenever they want to," he fumed.

Former Nevada Governor and pledged Romney delegate Bob List said Terhune was "an outlaw, he didn’t follow the law."

"I’ll find a way to correct this, Reince Prebius will make certain it's recorded properly," List said to reporters on the floor.

Some of the Paul delegates hinted they were so unhappy with the entire process that unfolded on the floor that they were considering voting for Libertarian Party presidential nominee Gary Johnson.

When asked about this Rice expressed more frustration with the Nevada delegation.

"I hope they vote for Obama. If they don't vote for Mitt Romney that is exactly what they're going to get. And another four years of Obama, well, I hope they enjoy kissing our country goodbye," Rice said.

While Terhune was speaking Wisellet Wizzard stood behind him with a large Ron Paul sign. The delegation had two but one was confiscated by convention staffers during the roll call vote. After the vote was submitted Wizzard stormed off with some delegates complaining about the process and how they were cheated. "The people's voices aren't being heard, we are not being respected. This is a top down party," he said.

Terhune's supporters in the delegation said they were rebelling against a change to the convention rules that prevented the possibility of nominating Ron Paul from the floor.

"The RNC itself made a backroom decision several days before the convention that they can now change the rules of the convention on short notice, whenever they want, and they presented all these new rules prior to what was really happening to counter us and all the other delegations for Ron Paul," said 25-year-old Daniel Stakleff of Las Vegas. "They pulled a fast one, it's not fair."

Stakleff was unhappy, too, that Wizzard's sign was removed from the convention floor.

"Six states properly submitted the paperwork to nominate Ron Paul from the floor of the convention. According to the rules, five were required," said Blake Buffington, a Paul supporter from Las Vegas.

The petitions, according to Buffington, were ignored by RNC officials because they were told that officials just didn't have enough time to review all of the signatures before the roll call.

"Ron Paul was properly nominated and they refused to acknowledge that fact," he said.

The guy that put all of this in motion, Terhune, hung around the Nevada area of the convention floor long after the vote but declined to comment on the entire situation.

"No comment at this point. I am still a little hot," he said.

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  • RBS||

    I hope they vote for Obama. If they don't vote for Mitt Romney that is exactly what they're going to get. And another four years of Obama, well, I hope they enjoy kissing our country goodbye

    I thought John lived in DC?

  • ||

    Cuz everyone knows Obama's stances on gay marriage and pron are what will ruin the country....

  • Whiterun Guard||

    More of a "worked shoot" I think.

  • ||

    "Priebus," Garrett. I know you're jealous that someone has a weirder name than you, but I'm sure I'm not the only one playing along from home who had to ask "what the fuck is a Reince Prebius?" and accept Google suggestion's spelling admonishment.

  • Whiterun Guard||

    It's the replacement for the Chevy Volt. 40 MPG and 0-50 in just under 7 seconds. Quite remarkable. I love my Prebius, lots of leg room and really good for getting around in the neighborhood.

  • ||

    Nah, he's in Game of Thrones, as is Wisellet Wizzard

  • RBS||

    Every time I see his name I think it should be Prince Riebus.

  • ||

    not Prince RBS?

  • Whiterun Guard||

    He's no Prince!

  • RBS||

    This is true.

  • RBS||

    a weirder name than you,


    Blake Buffington and Wisellet Wizzard would like a word...

  • ||

    Colorful characters like that are what really ties a good kerfuffle together. Do you want some boringly-named guys called Smith at your next hubbub, hullabaloo, or brouhaha?

    Is Reince Priebus enough of a household name to be dropped, even correctly spelled, with no further explanation? I've been trying to keep my RNC exposure minimal, so maybe I really am the only one who was puzzled by that quote.

  • RBS||

    In order to be a household name I think members of said household actually have to be able to pronounce the name, so I think Prince Riebus is disqualified.

  • ||

    Aw shiiiiit, Wikipedia sez his first name is Reinhold.

    "Mock trial, with J. Reinhold!"

  • Xenocles||

    Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen it. The GOP is going out of its way to marginalize Paul voters and driving them away from Romney. They aren't exactly going to flock to Obama, but it won't matter if "not Obama" takes the majority in a state.

    This is what happens, GOP establishment. This is what happens when you fuck one of your factions in the ass.

  • Whiterun Guard||

    What, you mean nothing happens? They don't give a crap about winning the election, as their coffers get filled either way.

    Losing control of the 'party' however, would be an actual loss.

  • Longtorso||

    Indispensable Enemies: The Politics of Misrule in America
    ...The main premise of the book is that the Republican and Democratic party leaders collude to keep power, often by not contesting elections that could easily be won with any money or effort expended. A quick example from today,25 years after the book was published: in my home state of Florida, half the congressional seats this year will not even be contested (several other "contests" simply have write-in candidates with zero chance of winning). Yet, the public perception is that the parties fight like dogs to win elections at all possible costs. Karp sees what pundits today can't: the goal of party leaders is to maintain control of their organizations,not to win elections. One quote from former Democratic speaker Sam Rayburn demonstrates this principle;when faced with a coming landslide for his party and a gain of many seats for his party,he ruefully says :"I'd just as soon not have that many Democrats, they'll be difficult to control." This is the shocking but real story of how politics in America really works....

  • Coeus||

    I like the 2 reviews that aren't 5 star.

    "Not enough CORPORASHUNS!!!!"

  • ant1sthenes||

    It makes sense. Say a noble house is facing potential peasant revolt in the middle of a war over a key piece of territory. Do you truly think it will make concessions to the peasants in order to shore up support for the war? Of course not. It will put down the revolt and risk losing the territory.

    The loss of the territory is a temporary setback in a long game; acceding to the demands of the peasantry is just begging for them to get emboldened and demand more power, and before you know it, there's no more game at all. Or, for a more modern take, consider Walmart's scorched earth approach to stores that try to unionize.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Smoke-filled backroom deals to nominate Romney might be a good theme for an Obama attack ad.

  • Whiterun Guard||

    Might work. Give them something to do anyway.

    In reality it's not smoke filled back rooms, it's flourescently lighted mid-level management rooms with GSA tables and $600 office chairs (that you can buy at Staples for $50).

  • Bee Tagger||

    It certainly undercuts the "hemp-filled backroom deals to write and pass obamacare" meme the Republicans want to run with.

  • Xenocles||

    The petitions, according to Buffington, were ignored by RNC officials because they were told that officials just didn't have enough time to review all of the signatures before the roll call.

    It's funny, because I was trained out of using that excuse by the time I made it to fifth grade. For that reason I haven't tried to use it but I doubt it would have been accepted for any assignment I've had since then.

  • CapitalistRunningDog||

    I am certainly impressed by how hard the RNC is trying to drive the Ron Paul supporters out of the party. Young, excited, willing to work? We do not need people like that in the Republicans if they dare to rock to boat in any way. So very stupid.

  • Whiterun Guard||

    You assume they're in business to win elections, which is an incorrect assumption.

  • Xenocles||

    It's beginning to look that way. You know, they're fond of telling me that it's so important to beat Obama that I should swallow my pride and vote for Romney despite any differences. What I don't see is them acting like it's important and even pretending to meet me halfway.

  • Longtorso||

    See my response above WG.

  • ||

    Garret, someone is having a better time than you at RNC

    http://www.vice.com/en_au/read.....convention

  • Mensan||

    Ybor was dead on a Tuesday night? [sarc] I'm shocked! [/sarc]

  • Fluffy||

    The really stupefying thing is that the Romney people are doing all of this for nothing.

    The Paul people wanted to show up and vote for their guy. And this would hurt Romney how, exactly?

    Romney would still going to be the nominee. No matter what.

    So they went out of their way to screw the Paul people out of their chance to cast their delegate votes just to say FUCK YOU as loud as they could.

    I honestly don't get it.

    I have worse people skills than maybe anyone. And even I know that letting these guys vote was the Romney people's best chance to pull the party together, and that screwing them out of their chance to vote was the worst thing they could do.

    They can't even say they did it to avoid the "embarrassment" of a divided vote because nobody outside the convention stopped talking about the hurricane long enough to note the final vote count, anyway. So they did this for nothing.

  • Bee Tagger||

    They can't even say they did it to avoid the "embarrassment" of a divided vote because nobody outside the convention stopped talking about the hurricane long enough to note the final vote count, anyway.

    Exactly. Even sans hurricane, only MSNBC would consider touching this story. The same motivations that kept most mainstream coverage away from Ron Paul aren't suddenly going to change. Embarrassing Republicans still falls in 2nd place behind never admitting you were wrong in your coverage.

  • ||

    They can't even say they did it to avoid the "embarrassment" of a divided vote because nobody outside the convention stopped talking about the hurricane long enough to note the final vote count, anyway. So they did this for nothing.

    Caught the convention coverage on NPR this morning and there was not a single mention of the Ron Paul antics. In fact the floor vote coverage simply ran the NJ "winning" votes and was a lead in for the Chris Christie piece that came next.

  • ||

    "'I hope they vote for Obama. If they don't vote for Mitt Romney that is exactly what they're going to get. And another four years of Obama, well, I hope they enjoy kissing our country goodbye,' Rice said."

    They exclude people from their convention and now they're mad that the people they drove out don't to be on their team.

  • Sheldon J. Plankton||

    They exclude people from their convention and now they're mad that the people they drove out don't to be on their team.

    And yet I have it on good authority that freedom-minded folk should be willing to compromise with these people. In order to, you know, take over the gang from the inside. Or something.

  • ant1sthenes||

    "Our chairman violated the rules by voting the way he did," said Wes Rice, the Nevada Rural County Caucus Chairman

    The rules that the party elite can change whenever they want to ensure the outcome they want? Oh no! Maybe if the GOP leadership displayed some respect for the rules instead of defining "winning" as "do something, and then change the rules to make what you did a victory condition", which some kindergartners might call juvenile, they wouldn't be in this boat.

  • Snowcrash395||

    Couple of things you got wrong. The delegate from Nevada with the folding Ron Paul sign was Wiselet Rouzard (not "Wizzard"). Granted, Rouzard is no shrinking violet, but he wouldn't have "stormed off" anywhere. I've seen him in action and he's cool, but persistent under pressure.

    It's true that Ron Paul got six states to put his name in nomination, but upon realizing that, the corrupt GOP leadership changed the long time five states rule to eight states. They simply wouldn't allow the name of Ron Paul to be spoken from the podium. Very petty and dictatorial. The Republican Party has become reminiscent of Saddam Hussein's old Baath Party. Only one candidate may run and he must receive 100% of the vote. Nothing good will come of this for America.

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