We Can Sell Our Beer in Texas, but We Can't Tell You Where

The last time I wrote about Texas beer regulations, I noted a rule that helps big brewers fend off competition from local brewpubs, which are forbidden to sell their products via retailers or wholesalers. Today a reader called my attention to another arbitrary restriction that also hurts smaller brewers: According to the website of Colorado's New Belgium Brewing (which makes a nice, reasonably priced Abbey Ale and Trippel), "we are not allowed to show beer locations inside the state of Texas due to regulations by the Texas Alcohol[ic] Beverage Commission." Delaware's Dogfish Head Brewery (which makes an excellent 90-Minute IPA and Indian Brown Ale) similarly advises website visitors looking for Texas retailers who carry the company's products:

Sorry Texans, we've been informed by the Texas Alcohol Beverage Commission that it is illegal to list retail outlets in the Lone Star State on our Fish Finder. Even though we continue to sell Dogfish beers in Texas, we cannot tell you where. 

But California's Pyramid Breweries (which makes a nice Hefeweizen and IPA) apparently did not get the memo. The company's "Global Pint Seeker" illegally displays a map of bars and retailers in Dallas where you can buy its beer. 

This rule hardly inconveniences the huge beer companies that dominate the market, since you can find their products pretty much anywhere. It's the smaller companies making interesting, less widely available beers that really suffer from such censorship. The only exception is...Texas brewpubs, which are allowed to tell people where they are, even though they sell their beer for home consumption.

Addendum: Commenter Nicholas Sarwak points us to the relevant FAQ on the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission's website:

If a manufacturer’s product is only carried in a limited number of stores, can the manufacturer or wholesaler include in an advertisement a list of all the stores that carry their product? 

Yes, if it is a winery. Otherwise, no. This type of advertisement by any supplier or wholesaler other than the holder of a winery permit would be a violation of the Alcoholic Beverage Code Sections 102.07, 108.05 and 16 TAC 45.110. Section 108.09 of the Code authorizes a winery to engage in this activity.

The regulations are here (PDF). The context indicates that the original rationale was to prevent "tied houses" and similar arrangements in which breweries controlled taverns or taverns agreed to carry one brand of beer exclusively. Hence a rule that was supposed to discourage monopolies has become anti-competitive. 

[Thanks to Daniel Bryce for the tip.]

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  • Greer||

    If we tell you where you can buy it, you might buy it and put Lone Star out of business.

  • SIV||

    Lone Star is a far better beer than any of that over-hopped, sissy-flavored, homebrewed, "faux-Belgian" swill.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    You shall burn in a Natty Lite hell SIV

  • ||

    Have you tried Lonestar? Holy god, is that shit awful.

  • SIV||

    Lone Star tastes great. Fresh and crisp without a hint of yeast sludge or rat droppings or whatever they "flavor" that overpriced shit-brown micro/craft/brewpub rotgut you drink.

  • Dempy||

    I've never tried Lone Star, but I know that Pabst makes some garbage. The only major American brewing company that makes anything good is Sam Adams. Microbreweries are usually much better.

    SIV, I'm guessing you wouln't be one to enjoy a nice cream stout much, would you?

  • ||

    Huh? PBR is America's Best Beer. Says so right on the can.

  • ||

    In a blind taste test between Lone Star and piss, 7 out of 10 tasters preferred piss, for the flavor. The other 3 thought both were piss.

  • ||

    SIV, you are the reason the rest of the US despises Texas, Lone Star is piss drawn off the riverwalk in San Antonio.

  • ||

    Did I mention? I fucking hate people.

  • Almanian||

    I like the way you think, and am interested in subscribing to your newsletter.

    This brings to mind my boss from early-mid 2000's...walked in the door one morning...."Good morning, Syl!" "FUCK YOU!!!" *me laughing* He also used to tell the three of us at staff (The Triad - his hired labor relations guns), "You guys are assholes....that's why I like you..."

    And of course, Syl's capper: "Basically, I just don't like people..."

    You can't spell "Who Cares" without "HR"...what a great boss!

  • Gray Ghost||

    Seriously, what the hell does the TABC do that couldn't be better done by some other state agency? Or, if need be, not done at all?

    All I read about them is that they bust people for being drunk in a bar, or cracking heads at a gay bar, or refusing approval for beer labels. What value does this organization provide, and would we miss it at all if the whole thing was disbanded?

  • ||

    Without them, we would have chaos in the streets and riots. Plus no roadz. Somalia!!111!11!!1!

  • ||

    They do nothing but make money for their distribution buddies. It's all about that as you can buy wine straight from the winery while us beer drinkers have to search for anything.

  • Almanian||

    And here come the homebrewing weenies in three....two....one...

  • Cliché Bandit||

    YAY!!!!

    So, on my epic beer tour of northern Colorado via Limo I had a small tragedy. I took along my 3 gal cornie and was tapping off it just fine until i realized that the tap was stuck/really fucking stuck on the post (ball lock BTW). So now I have a less than solid seal on my 3 gal cornie and cant get the damn thing off. The fucking keg is worth more than my 4 other 5 gallon ones.

  • Almanian||

    This made me chuckle

  • Cliché Bandit||

    You know not the pain that this problem is causing me.

  • ||

    I had that happen to me once. Don't even remember how the hell I finally pried the fucker off.

  • ||

    This seems an appropriate place for this.

  • ||

    Oh, you could got to the website, but its really, really lame right now.

  • ||

    Lame, meh. Now I know where to look...good luck.

  • Sudden||

    You know you like it Almanian. Not all of us can sport the mountain dew addiction like you, the rest of us prefer our vices to contain alcohol instead of high fructose corn syrup.

    I am going to be doing a homebrewing class tonight, learning the ropes, figuring out how much space I'll need for the setup, and hopefully brewing my first batch soon thereafter.

  • Almanian||

    I just buy Stoli or Jager and get hammered quick with shots. The beer just fills me up any more.

  • Joe R.||

    I love, love, love craft beer, but this is becoming a problem for me, too. After a couple of beers, I'm too full to continue. I may just stop eating.

  • Spartacus||

    You should try Aqua Velva, then. Tastes better than Jager and you don't get asked for ID.

  • Almanian||

    Now, if we can get a good thread on tire selection for motorcycles, or which aftermarket exhaust system works best for the 2011 Mustang GT, or....well, now you have my attention :)

  • Cliché Bandit||

    I have owned at least 1 mustang since I was 16. I just sold my Cobra (99) and all i have left is my 67'...sad face.

    damn car seats

    Ohh and the best was a MAC Offroad H with shorty headers for the New Fox Body stangs.

  • kinnath||

    I just put Yokohama S.Drives on my 350Z a couple of months ago. They're astoundingly quiet compared the to Michelins that I replace.

  • ||

    Sorry, but all I can do is live through the rich and fulfilling lives of everyone else here. If only I was able to puzzle over Mustang tire choice or which bike to get.

  • ||

    As much space as you have.

    If you have little, that is all you need (I homebrewed for years in my condo).

    If you have a basement and a garage, guess what its gonna be filled with?

  • Sudden||

    No basement or garage. I have an extra room in the apartment that I use as an office, but the wifey wants to add a sleeper couch to it. I suppose I should strike while the iron's hot and fill it with brewing equipment. We also have a decently sized laundry room that I was thinking might work, but I think it'll be a pretty tight fit for a decent setup.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    I truely needs about 4 square feet of floor space for a minimal setup. If you go extract and do stovetop (this is where most people start) then you need room for 1 6 gal bucket, 1 5/6 gallon carboy, and 1 large pot.

    Thats it. Also, if you go to the 6.5 carboy and 7 gallon bucket you can do wine too. That is how I get to brew as much as I want, keep the wife's wine glass full and everything is fine.

  • ||

    I used the closet of my 2nd bedroom as my fermenting closet back when I had the condo.

    That and stovetop was all I used.

  • sarcasmic||

    You're just jealous that you don't have a liver the size of a football.

  • sarcasmic||

    I wish the sold the stuff in Maine. Haven't had a Fat Tire in ages.

  • ||

    Pick up some...anything, really... made by Allagash, you'll forget Fat Tire soon enough.

  • Gray Ghost||

    A second vote for this. Avoid their Black, but everything else they do is quite tasty.

    Geary's is pretty good too, as well as Cadillac Mountain stout from Bar Harbor Brewing.

  • sarcasmic||

    Allagash is OK. Geary's gives me atomic diarrhea. Air propelled foamy liquid shits. I won't touch the stuff.

  • ||

    I blame MillerCoors (which makes several shitty American lagers, several more shitty American light lagers, one shitty American light lager with lime, at least two disgusting near-water low-carb light lagers, some shittily disgusting ice beers, an okay malt liquor (by malt liquor standards) and a surprisingly decent faux-witbier) and AB-InBev (which makes several shitty American lagers, several more shitty American light lagers, one shitty American light lager with lime, at least two disgusting near-water low-carb light lagers, some shittily disgusting ice beers, an okay malt liquor (by malt liquor standards) and a surprisingly decent Dunkelweizen under their Michelob brand).

  • Almanian||

    I continue to blame Bush

  • sarcasmic||

    I blame Busch.

  • Almanian||

    Kurt or Kyle?

  • Sudden||

    What is MillerCoors decent faux-witbier?

  • ||

    That would be Blue Moon. Not great, but it's passable, and you can't really argue with the price.

  • ||

    It's one of those beers I would never buy at the liquor store or order when there's a decent craft selection, but I'm always glad to see it at bars that only carry Bud or MillerCoors products.

  • ||

    Yeah. So glad I live where I do, as most everywhere carries at least one or two Bell's products, making this a moot point.

  • ||

    Bells kicks ass...Two Hearted -- le sigh.

  • ||

    Then you drink a St Bernardus Wit and swear Blue Moon off forever.

    Until its the only available option yet again.

  • ||

    I dread that day, rob. Dread it.

    I did a little happy dance this weekend, our neighborhood growler bar had Ommegang Witte on draft. [glug, glug, glug]

  • ||

    I just dont go anywhere whose selection is so crappy I have to drink Blue Moon. Or, if I do, I drink bourbon instead.

  • ||

    I got a keg of Hennepin for my summer end-of-the-semester party this year. A yard full of drunk student workers gorging themselves on chicken thighs and playing cornhole was a sight to behold.

  • ||

    Hennepin...nice.

    It used to be my go to summer beer. But this year I brewed my own saison instead.

  • Sudden||

    Not a huge saison fan, although some of the really sour ones appeal to me.

  • ||

    Blasphemer!!

    If Blue Moon is the only option, save your liver.

    (Or, last resort, mix it half/half with Killian's, aka a Harvest Moon.)

  • ||

    Blasphemer!!

    If Blue Moon is the only option, save your liver.

    (Or, last resort, mix it half/half with Killian's, aka a Harvest Moon.)

  • Bar Student||

    Blue moon was one of the best stealth advertising ever. My mother thought for years that it was a microbrew and thought I was lying when I pointed out it was made by Coors.

  • Sudden||

    Oh damn, I didn't realize that Blue Moon was a Coors product.

    Tbh, I'm actually surprised Coors hasn't come out with more in the way of quality beer. Denver is a beer aficianado's Mecca (possibly more of a Medina to Portland's Mecca, but that is a debate that I can't join having not yet visited Portland). With all the various and sundry quality brewing operations in the area, I would expect some decent product in the craft beer space to come out of Coors, especially since it seems like the American palatte is finally willing to accept craft beer on a larger stage. I understand AB and Miller not being generators of such though, as St Louis and Milwaukee aren't exactly topping any true beer fans touring destinations list.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    Fuck those soggy quasi canucks! DENVER IS WHERE ITS AT!

    Cue Beck

  • Sudden||

    The problem with Denver is that, as much as I love the craft beer scene there, I cannot resist at least one night getting embarrassingly shit-tanked on vodka at Red Square everytime I'm there.

    I also spend a significant portion of my time there ragging on the Broncos, as I try to visit for Chiefs/Broncos games (this past year's visit didn't work out so well for my Jefes)

  • Cliché Bandit||

    Red Sqare for tourists...You want Russian Drinking I introduce you to "The Ladies". Your puny liver no match.

    White Knights is where the mob hang out...you should go there.

  • Sudden||

    My liver is the size of a 150kg Soviet kettlebell. It'll stand up to the test. Na Strovia!

  • Cliché Bandit||

    For the record I believe Red Square is Ukranian...just sayin.

  • Sudden||

    No holodomor there with all those pickles though. And it seems a bit ironic that they'd adopt the Kremlin as their name if Ukranian. I guess Yalta or Kiev just don't have the same mass appeal.

  • Muhammad||

    How dare you meld Mecca, Medina and alcohol. I KEEL YOU!

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    The wife and I went to Portland back in May. That town has so many good restaurants and bars. The food is awesome, and the booze flows heavy. Good beers, and lots of local booze distilleries. If you haven't been, you really should go.

  • Sudden||

    Portland is definitely on my short list of cities to see soon. I'm a huge fan of wet areas with lush green vegitation. The one thing I couldn't stand about Denver is that it is so fucking dry. I'm looking forward to a Pac NW trip, take a full week or two and hit Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver.

  • Nicholas Sarwark||

    Has anyone challenged this rule on (a) First Amendment or (b) commerce clause grounds?

  • Almanian||

    "Necessary and Proper", "General Welfare"

    The defense rests

  • Bar Student||

    Commerce clause doesn't apply because they treat Texas breweries the same.

  • Nicholas Sarwark||

    Do you have a link to the actual law or regulation that prohibits a brewer from providing information about where a product is sold?

  • Bar Student||

    No, I just know from experience that you can't find retailers online.

  • Nicholas Sarwark||

    TABC's FAQ on "cooperative advertising"

    Apparently, you can't list the retailers who sell your beer. But if you have a winery, it's fine.

  • Bar Student||

    Oh yeah that didn't click for me, I'm getting married at a Hill country winery and now that I think about it they do list retailers on their website. So weird.

  • Otto||

    But imagine one person, drinking a beer in a bar. Although it seems like he's not influencing beer sales outside his state, he is influencing beer sales in aggregate. His beer drinking, combined with the choices of all the other patrons, effects interstate commerce and is therefore part of the commerce clause.

    Either they can repeal Wickard, or we find ways to make it work for us.

  • ||

    This seems particularly under the Commerce Clause, but remember that states have more leeway to regulate liquor sales under the 21st Amendment, despite impacting interstate commerce.

  • Joe M||

    How did you know DFH 90 Minute was my favorite beer?

  • Spartacus||

    I do like the 90 minute IPA. Our local grocery store sells a DFH 60 minute IPA as well, but it has a lower alcohol content.

  • Joe M||

    I can't stand the 60 Minute. It tastes like carbonated grapefruit juice.

  • Bar Student||

    As far as I know there are no longer any brewpubs in Houston anymore. Then again I've always found brewpub beer to be inferior to microbrews.

  • Joe M||

    Two Rows in Rice Village, and BJ's in Clear Lake. Saint Arnold actually brews the beer for BJ's. Other than that... yeah nothing else comes to mind.

  • Bar Student||

    Two Rows is closed and none of the BJ's are in actual Houston.

  • Joe M||

    Two Rows is closed? Shee-it. Clear Lake is only thirty minutes outside of downtown.

  • Gray Ghost||

    There are a few BJ's around the Houston area. I've found the beer to be meh at best---like Two Rows' was, but YMMV.

  • Sudden||

    Generally, I agree. But of late, I've found a few decent brewpubs in my area.

  • ||

    When you drink at brewpubs do you order their regular beers or their specials/seasonals? Most brewpubs offer the same fairly boring lineup of year-round beers (light lager or blonde ale, brown ale, porter or stout, IPA, and maybe a wheat) that are designed to appeal to the masses--and I don't mean that in a pejorative sense. However, the seasonal and special release beers are where the brewers really get to show their creativity. As such, when I visit a new brewpub I only order their year-round beers if none of the specials appeal to me.

    On a side note, here in Chicago the brewpubs easily hang with the production micros.

  • ||

    Sorry if my comment comes of as pedantic, by the way. Given the quality of brewpubs in the Midwest I figured maybe you just weren't drinking the right stuff, but if you're in Texas I suppose it's very possible that the brewpubs are simply worse down there (with the exception of Austin, or so I'm told).

  • Bar Student||

    I willing to bet that Texas brewpubs are lower quality because of this law. There are a number of good tiny breweries in Austin that are only available on tap at a few places in the big Texas cities and that's it. Those small scale operations might have opened as a brewpub in other states.

  • CrackertyAssCracker||

    Is Fireman's Four everywhere? Or just in Texas? Or just in Central Texas?

    It's really easy to drink and tastes good.

  • Bar Student||

    Everywhere in Texas, I was at there brewery the other week and the founder gave the tour. They had just moved into the top 50 microbreweries by volume and said their planned expansion is to meet all Texas demand only.

  • CrackertyAssCracker||

    I'll bet 90% of that volume is Firemans Four. All the rest of there stuff, while not sucky, is quite forgetable. Soon as I'm done with Firemans I want another one.

  • Bar Student||

    Their seasonals are all fantastic. The coffee porter, Devil's backbone and Phoenix are all tasty.

  • ||

    Don't forget Real Ale's Lost Gold IPA. For years it was a seasonal available on tap only, which inspired many a frantic pub safari to locate. They finally started bottling it this year, to the great relief of Austin beer drinkers. Also, despite our stupid beer laws, a half-dozen new microbreweries have opened in Austin over the past year.

  • CrackertyAssCracker||

    I just went and read a bunch of beer snob reviews of my current favorite beer. Fuck those assholes. They are like the people who only like music when nobody else has ever heard of it, and if the band ever gets popular they call them "mainstream sellouts".

  • Beerdork||

    If your criteria for beer is "easy to drink", you don't know what good beer is. Be sure to grab a Miller Vortex bottle or Bud wide mouth can so you can pour as much shit beer in your corn-hole as possible. Heaven knows there's fuck-all else to do in Texas.

  • CrackertyAssCracker||

    You are right man. You gotta check out this trippel-dunke-shise-kopf I just got from this new brewery in the german inhabited area of the Ukraine. Man, am I is it cool. Of course it tastse like ass, and gives you the shits for three days, but CMON MAN! It stayed foamy for a long time and it's foreign so it's got to be good!

  • Sudden||

    Stouts don't generally conjure visions of mass appeal, at least not in Southern California. Porters, maybe, but not stouts. Here in SoCal, a hefe is a must have. Generally warmer climate and the hefe being a pretty reliable summer brew and inoffensive beverage, any brewpub in these parts will have a hefe.

    Although there is one nearby me that has that standard fare you're talking about, but they do offer a strong double IPA with a decent IBU kick and 9.8% ABV. Its a quality brew (a little maltier than most IPAs, which I like since I generally dig maltiness), I try and grab a growler of it every week or two.

    Said local brewpub of note

  • GSL||

    Next time you head east on the 101, check out Lucky Baldwin's pub in Pasadena. Their selection is very extensive, though heavy on Belgian beer.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    And if you ever find yourself in the oceanside paradise that is Long Beach or Seal Beach, you must check out Beachwood BBQ. http://www.beachwoodbbq.com/beer.php

  • Sudden||

    Clearly, we just need to have a SoCal libertarian drinkfest. The only problem is how I will get to Pasadena and Long Beach without using ROADZZZ!11!1!1!!!!

  • ||

    SoCal---Gots to have lots of Port Brewing/Lost Abbey and Alesmith...

  • T||

    That's why I spend some of my Saturday afternoons at Southern Star in Conroe. They just give the shit away! Although their Pine Belt Pale is godawful, the Bombshell Blonde and Buried Hatchet are damn good.

  • Gray Ghost||

    Given TX's dram shop laws, and civil juries that will eagerly find fault with a negligent server, e.g., http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/t.....atal-wreck , I'm surprised Southern Star's Saturday tastings/tour are still free. (And that they give you 4 free tastings!) Especially when you look at the EtOH content of the beer.

    Lots of fun though, and the BBQ guys they have on the side make some tasty food too. I loved their Pro-Am smoked porter.

  • T||

    That smoked porter was one of the best beers I ever had. This year the pro-am is a saison, I think? I haven't tried it yet.

  • Joe M||

    The beer laws in Texas are one of its worst features. Luckily, I live less than a mile from a gigantic Spec's Liquor, which has pretty much every beer you could conceivably get in Texas.

  • PETE||

    The heroic Scott Walker has passed similar regulations in Wisconsin. Miller Lite has MORE TASTE!

  • Invisible Finger||

    If the liteguards were topless, maybe I'd believe them.

  • Almanian||

    Sigh...all my beerz is from the large producers:

    1) Tennents Lager (Glasgow) - if you can't get that:
    2) McEwans Lager (Edinburgh) - if you can't get that:
    3) Labatt Blue - iycgt
    4) whatever, it's all bier

  • NoVAHockey||

    Blue is what I drank in college. I always pick up a six-pack when i see it out of some sense of loyalty or nostalgia. as far a cheap lagers go, it's not bad.

  • ATF||

    All your home brew are belong to us

  • Old Mexican||

    "According to the website of Colorado's New Belgium Brewing (which makes a nice, reasonably priced Abbey Ale and Trippel), 'we are not allowed to show beer locations inside the state of Texas due to regulations by the Texas Alcohol Beverage Commission.'"


    Haven't these guys ever heard of "Facebook"???

  • Montani Semper Liberi||

    My in-laws live about 30 minutes from the DFH brewery in Milton and the brewpub in Rehoboth. I might be the only guy on Earth who actually looks forward to visiting the in-laws.

  • ||

    There are some ways around this law. One of the microbrewers will have statements similar to these in their newsletter before product rollouts:
    - Our favorite "Animal House" character was Larry KROGER.
    - We like the name RANDALL for a boy.
    - Our beer is unlike Huge Eastern Brewers.
    - To look for our beer, put on your SPECS.

    There are other strange twists to the law - for example the state defined "ale" and "Stout" by alcohol content, not style. So you couldn't get SA Cream Stout, as its ABV was too low.

  • robc||

    Also, if a beer is over 7% (IIRC) abv, then to sell it in Texas, the word ALE must appear on the label. Even if its a lager.

    So, for example, a Dopplebock would have ALE on its label if its sold in Texas (you see these show up in other states to the amusement and bemusement of beer drinkers).

  • Joe M||

    Hmm, I don't think that's correct. I seem to remember seeing Abita Andygator, which is an 8% ABV Helles Bock, without the word Ale on the label. Next time I'm at the liquor store I'll check some labels.

  • ||

    Apparently anything between 0.5% and 5.0% must have BEER on the label.

    If its over 5% it CANT have the word beer on the label and must have either ALE or MALT LIQUOR on the label.

    However, it appears Texas is slack in enforcing this.

  • ||

    Sam Adams Winter Lager apparently has "ALE IN TX" on the label. lol.

  • Joe M||

    Haha nice.

  • Invisible Finger||

    I stopped reading labels once the government warnings went on them. My liquor store puts their own much more readable signs by the products.

  • Russ 2000||

    I'd bet most of those crazy-ass labeling laws are due to different taxes on the alcohol content and clueless store clerks who might ring up the wrong tax if they aren't using UPC's. (Lotsa small places.)

    I worked in a liquor department at a drug store once and were were shorthanded so one of the fossils from another department had to run the liquor register. I was underage at the time so I could not ring up the sales (just bagger and stocker) but the old hag runnign the register couldn't figure out if Dr. Pepper was beer or not. I said to the customer "Do you want the amusement or do you just want to get the hell out of here?" They wanted out so I had to tell the clerk it was soda and then she proceeded to yell at me for insulting her.

  • Gray Ghost||

    I'd bet most of those crazy-ass labeling laws are due to different taxes on the alcohol content and clueless store clerks who might ring up the wrong tax if they aren't using UPC's.

    The tax on wine used to have different tiers, depending if the EtOH was 14% or higher. That was Federal, IIRC, and imposed at the winery, not at the point of retail sale though. I believe TX still doesn't allow sale of >14% EtOH products on Sunday---even after noon--- which is why the dessert wine/port section of the grocery stores are still taped off on Sunday afternoon. Provided that your grocery store is in a wet precinct, and can sell wine in the first place.

    Even the Byzantines would think that TX liquor laws/regulations are complicated.

  • ||

    But- overpriced raspberry peach ale will totally put Anheuser Busch out of business!

  • Jim||

    TABC is notoriously fascist on teh booze. It's strange, considering Texas does pretty well in economic freedoms on other fronts. But a good friend of mine who is a bar manager in Dallas has told me point blank that once he's saved enough to open his own bar, he won't do it in Texas b/c of all the bullshit TABC puts them through. I'm sure if I went to a state rep. meeting and told them they were driving away business, they wouldn't care since it's the demon rum we're talking about.

    Hell, in Plano, they won't give out a liquor license unless you do at least 50% of your sales volume in food. There are other options available (like a 70%/30% split), but strangely those never seem to get approved.

  • ||

    It's strange, considering Texas does pretty well in economic freedoms on other fronts.

    Atheists. It's all the atheists fault.

  • Jim||

    I knew I was somehow responsible. I'll go fall on my sword now, for the greater good of my fellow Texans.

    Or maybe I'll just move back to Kentucky. I think my shack was still there, last time I drove by.

  • ||

    Lowe's is having a special on tar paper, if that sweetens the pot...

  • Jim||

    LOL

  • ||

    Texas legislators, big brewers and their whoresaler fuck buddies preserve and protect the three tier distro system and do their damndest to keep the specialty brewers out of the market...no adult beverage is free to roam the lone star state.

  • Nipplemancer||

    I for one am saddened that the former beer brewing capitol east of the Mississippi (that hellish place we call Newark, NJ) no longer produces anything but Budweiser.
    We need more craft brews in Jersey.
    That is all

  • ||

    Flying Fish in Cherry Hill...they represent NJ quite nicely.

  • PIRS||

    Here is an idea, what if a non-profit organization located outside of the State of Texas and not affiliated in any way with any brewer were to provide this information. It could be called the "Texas Beverage Educational Service" or some such. All brewing companies could simply provide a link to this educational charity - and of course donate to them and take the donation off of their taxes!

    What do you think of this charity?

  • Citizen Nothing||

    This is a seriously good idea.

  • Dempy||

    Have any of y'all had Lazy Magnolia's beers? They're brewed in Mississippi and are slowly spreading across the southeast.

  • ||

    I friend of mine is a huge fan of their Southern Pecan, but I wasnt impressed. Nut Browns are my favorite style too. Probably the favorite of my friend, too.

    She loves it, I cant stand it. Not surprising, I guess, that within favorite style would polarize on that beer.

  • ||

    I've enjoyed the Lazy Summer and the Pecan. Both nice beers.

  • TABC||

    Brewed beer can make you gay and attack our men

    http://slog.thestranger.com/sl.....-it-coming

  • Citizen Nothing||

    My first stop on a recent visit to Rehoboth Beach was Dogfish Head Brewings and Eats.
    I loved Rehoboth -- my mellow, mellow mood upon leaving Dogfish Head is probably why.

  • Au H20||

    The lack of mention of New Belgium's excellent Sunshine Wheat makes this post a beer snob fail, sadly.

  • ||

    I loves me some Sunshine Wheat, but head to head, Odells Easy Street Wheat wins for me.

  • ||

    Woot! A beer thread! Disclosure: my son (first child) was born 15 hours ago--I'm exhausted, mom and baby are resting, so I'm lurking here...and thinking about the great beers my wife can enjoy with me once again.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    Congrats! I'd buy you a beer if I could, of course...
    (And rest while ye may.)

  • ||

    Thanks, your advice is (slowly) sinking in.
    We're going to have a proper celebration soon--

    New Glarus Belgian Red
    New Glarus Raspberry Tart
    Goose Island Bourbon County 2009
    Dogfish Head/Three Floyd's Poppaskull
    Alesmith Old Numbskull
    Russian River Consecration
    Odell Friek
    Odell Myrcenary
    Founders Devil Dancer
    Founders Double Trouble

    ...et alia...

  • rather||

    Congrats! Will you still love him if he grows up to be a liberal? ;-)

  • ||

    Love him? Unconditionally.
    Respect him? Get back to me...

  • ||

    The regulation violates the first amendment. New Belgium Brewing should ignore it, and if the bureaucrats interfere with their business, New Belgium should sue them as individuals for civil rights violations.

    -jcr

  • RussK||

    The Texas law about producers of alcoholic beverages not being able to site sources for purchases of their products (at least for wines) is a thing of the past.

    Check out one of many Texas wineries that do so:

    http://www.chisholmtrailwinery.com/find-our-wines/

    I don't know if it applies to other beverages.

    Russ

  • mdboze||

    Here is a loophole: start selling a cheap wine; you can tell people where you sell the wine. But also make it "known" that your beer is sold in the same place. Sell the wine at a VERY high price so you do not have to restock it. But the wine can be what people search for to find the beer in Texas.

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