Tracy Ingle: Another Drug War Outrage

About a month ago I got a call from a reporter for the Arkansas Times inquiring about my research into paramilitary drug raids. He'd been reporting on a raid in North Little Rock involving a 40-year-old man named Tracy Ingle. When he told me the story over the phone, I was floored, even given all the abuses and mistakes I've reported and read about over the last few years. What makes the case especially egregious is not that the police may have gotten the wrong home, that they shot a man, or that they were covering it up or going silent. We've seen all that before. What's mind-blowing about this one is that they've continued abusing the poor guy, even after it should have been clear for some time now that they made a mistake.

From the outset, it should be noted that Tracy Ingle has had some trouble with the law in the past, though nothing violent, and nothing drug-related. He has had a couple of DWI's, and a citation for failing to appear in court. He apparently also agreed to do some repair work on a friend's car that later turned out to be stolen.

That said, what's happened to him over the last few months is pretty outrageous.

Here's the Arkansas Times piece, which I'd encourage you to read in full. And here's a follow-up interview with North Little Rock Police Chief Danny Bradley about SWAT tactics.

I've since spoken again to the reporter and to Tracy Ingle's sister, Tiffney Forrester, who herself is a former sheriff's deputy. I've also had a chance to review the warrants and return sheets (pdf).

The North Little Rock Police Department wouldn't discuss the case with me.

Here's a quick rundown:

• On January 7, 2008 a paramilitary police unit in North Little Rock, Arkansas conducted a drug raid on Tracy Ingle's home. Ingle says he had fallen asleep for several hours, and was asleep when the raid happened. He awoke when the police took a battering ram to his door. Another team of officers approached form the outside of the house, and shattered the window to his bedroom.

• When he awoke, Ingle says he thought his home was being invaded by armed robbers. He reached for a broken gun, a pretty clear indication that he had no intention of killing anyone, but rather was trying to scare away the intruders. When he grabbed the gun, an officer inside the house fired his weapon. The bullet hit Ingle just above the knee, shattered his thigh bone, and nearly severed his lower leg. When the outside officers heard the shot, they opened up on Ingle, hitting him four more times. According to Ingle's sister, one bullet still rests just above Ingle's heart, and can't be removed.

• Ingle was taken to the hospital, and spent a week-and-a-half in intensive care. He was then removed from intensive care—still in his hospital pajamas—and taken to the North Little Rock police department, where he was questioned for five hours. He was not told he was suspected of a crime, and his family wasn't allowed to speak with him. After the interrogation, he was arrested and transferred to the county jail.

• Ingle spent the next four days in jail. He says he was never given his pain medication or his antibiotics. Though hospital nurses told him to change his bandages and clean his wounds every 4-6 hours, Ingle told the Arkansas Times that jail officials changed them only twice in four days. Ingle's wounds became infected during the time he was in jail.

• Police found no illegal drugs in Ingle's home. They did find a scale, which Ingle's sister tells me was an extra she was given when she worked at a medical testing facility. She used it in her jewelry-making hobby. They also found a bunch of small plastic bags. Again, Ingle's sister says these were part of her business. "I was leaving the country for a while, and I stored a lot of my stuff at his house," she told me. "The scale and bags were mine, and are both common things to have for anyone who makes jewelry." Police also found the broken gun and a broken police scanner.

• From those items, the police charged Ingle with running a drug enterprise. They also charged him with assault, for pointing his broken gun at the police officers who had just barged into his home. The judge set Ingle's bail at $250,000, explaining that it had to be set high because Ingle had engaged in a shootout with police—never mind that Ingle didn't fire a shot. Ingle was able to sell his car to pay a bail bondsman. But with no car, his injuries render him basically immobile. He had to walk two miles on crutches and an infected leg to his hearing last week.

• The police obtained a no-knock warrant for Ingle's home about three weeks prior to the raid. The warrant itself (pdf) reads like boilerplate, with no specific references to Ingle (other than his address), or why he specifically posed a risk to police safety, or of disposing of drugs before coming to answer the door. It mentions no controlled buys. It doesn't even mention an informant. In fact, someone scratched out "crack cocaine" and hand-wrote in "methamphetamine" on the type-written warrant, suggesting a cut, plug, and paste job. The Supreme Court has ruled that police must show case-specific evidence of exigent circumstances in order to be issued a no-knock warrant. The mere fact that it's a drug case isn't enough. The warrant for Ingle's home contains no such specific information.

Many times, information specific to the investigation is contained in the affidavit the investigating officer files for the search warrant, not in the warrant itself. Forrester says she has called the North Little Rock Police Department more than 20 times in an effort to obtain a copy of the affidavits. She says they at first refused to return her phone calls. When she was finally able to speak with a lieutenant, he became angry when she told him she had contacted the media. She then says he told her to "dream on" when she asked for copies of the affidavits.

• According to Forrester, Ingle's neighbor had a direct line of sight into the bedroom, and saw the entire raid. His account initially matched Ingle's. But that changed. "We have a witness, a next door neighbor that saw the entire incident," Forrester told me. "He came forward on his own to give a statement to the family. Police never questioned him until a month or so after the shooting, at my insistence. They kept this neighbor in his home, and questioned him for at least four hours, refusing to let the man's wife come home, of for other people to see him. When the police finished intimidating the man, they told him specifically that 'he did not see what he thought he saw.' The neighbor is now afraid to talk to the media." I have not yet been able to speak with the neighbor.

• Ingle's family was able to put up $1,000 to retain an attorney, but can't afford the extra $6,000 the attorney has asked to represent Ingle. Ingle is therefore still looking for representation. He has no health insurance, and no money to pay for medication, or to continue treatment of his injuries.

• Last week, after the Arkansas Times article appeared, the judge in the case issued a gag order, preventing Ingle and any future attorney he may have from talking to the media about what happened to him. This is puzzling. Before today there had been exactly two articles about this case—not exactly a media circus. It's hard to understand why a gag order was necessary. It's only real purpose is to prevent more people from learning about what's increasingly looking like a railroading. And it's only effect is to lend more support to the possibility that it is, in fact, a cover-up and railroading.

As noted, the police aren't talking. And the prosecutor is now bound by the gag order. Perhaps there's some piece of information damning to Ingle I'm not yet aware of—though it's hard to imagine what that might be.

Barring that, what's happening to Tracy Ingle is pretty outrageous.

UPDATE: The Arkansas Times reports that the gag order request in Ingle's case was withdrawn late yesterday. I don't know that this will make the police or prosecutors any more likely to talk about the case, but if I have time this afternoon, I'll try again to give them a call.

UPDATE II:  Several people asked in the comments about donating to Ingle's legal defense.  You can now do so directly via PayPal at: http://www.justicefortracy.com.

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  • robc||

    Dammit Radley, stop pissing me off.

    Fuck.

    Im too angry to type any coherent reponse.

  • Episiarch||

    It's not Friday yet, Radley. Why are you ruining my day?

  • ||

    Something wrong with the link to the AR Times article

  • ||

    I hope Ingle has a good lawyer. It sounds like he's fighting an uphill battle.

  • Bingo||

    Made it about halfway through, I don't know if I can finish reading the rest. Ugh.

  • Bingo||

    Also, sounds like the reporter might have been a little inspired by Radley. I guess that's one good thing to come out of all this nastiness.

  • ||

    • Ingle's family was able to put up $1,000 to retain an attorney, but can't afford the extra $6,000 the attorney has asked to represent Ingle.



    I will put up $200 if other readers can raise the rest, or towards a reduced fee if any attorney readers want to represent Ingle. Is anyone else in?

  • drawnasunder||

    Who are you going to trust? The police, or some limping drug kingpin? Jeez.

  • healthy||

    so, how about you drawn?

  • ||

    In fact, I'd put up $300. This isn't even my country, but Januray 7 is my birthday and this shit does not go down on my birthday without consequences.

  • ||

    The thing that jumped off the page at me was this: The police obtained a no-knock warrant for Ingle's home about three weeks prior to the raid..

    I thought the whole pooint of "no-knock" was dire urgency. It makes me wonder how many other warrants they have lying around, waiting for a slow day.

  • Taktix®||

    I can't afford to support this guy legally, but I'll help petition the local ACLU to take this case.

    My email address is as follows (without the NO SPAM parts, of course):

    jonathan.m.kyleNOSPAM@NOSPAMgmail.com

    Contact me if anyone else is interested...

    Also, I hate to sound like a Montana-compound separatist type, but when will be the final straw? How much longer can we, the people, take this abuse?

  • ||

    Sure, Chris V. If someone can put together a legit fund for the family's legal bills, I'll put in a couple hundred bucks.
    Come to think of it, shouldn't there be some sort of organization devoted to solving the legal problems of the victims of these mistaken raids? Or does the ACLU fall into that category. Would that the ACLU were more focused in their mission.

  • robc||

    Also, I hate to sound like a Montana-compound separatist type, but when will be the final straw? How much longer can we, the people, take this abuse?

    I was thinking the same thing. For some reason, this one has put me over the line. I think its a matter of build up, but I have just lost it now. I dont think it was anything special about this specific case.

  • ||

    What are the chances the New! Improved! Attorney General might see fit to send somebody down there to have a little sit-down with those guys?

  • ||

    Also, I hate to sound like a Montana-compound separatist type, but when will be the final straw? How much longer can we, the people, take this abuse?



    Honestly I find it pretty astonishing that Americans can still sing "Land of the free" with a straight face while this shit is going on. If the cops here in Australia busted in to some non-violent guy's house and shot him, even supposing he was selling drugs, either said cops would be disowned by the force or there would be violent revolution.

  • ||

    I will maintain a list of potential contributors. Email me at cvinall at gmail-com. If we get close to 6K I will make contact with Radley. Please don't email unless you are serious about donating.

  • ||

    There are probably a lot of reasonoids who don't read the comments so if a Reason editor could add something to the post to the effect that there's a donation drive in comments, that would help.

    This might go nowhere but I'm going to give it a shot.

  • ||

    Holy fuck. It can get worse.

    Every time a status-quo'er bitches to me about how bad [insert guvmint over-reach here] has gotten, I ask them who they voted for in the last election. Was it someone who promised to reduce the scope of government in our lives, particularly the WoD, or did they vote for someone who promised them a free pony?

    If they answer the latter, I usually tell the to just shut the hell up and look inward, if they need to find someone to blame for the situation. You made the mess with all your like-minded buddies, now clean it up.

    I just can't be bothered to coddle these political wasters any longer. It'll probably take someone in their family getting shot by the police for them to finally connect the dots.

  • ||

    You are only as good as your society. The sad fact is that we have a society that puts up with this crap. Part of it is the complete failure of our political and media classes. Instead of covering every top shelf white girl who gets drunk and disappears on vacation 24/7, the media might want to cover this stuff. I am an optimist and believe that most people in this country would be appalled if they knew about this kind of stuff. But they don't know about it because the media, outside of fringe magazines like Reason, generally don't cover it.

    The past 40 years has been a perfect storm destroying our justice system. The system completely broke down in the 1970s and stopped providing basic protection. The Republicans played on that and voters punished Democrats for being soft on crime, which they were. The Democrats in response got harder on crime. The problem was that now both parties got votes by being tougher on crime and there was no one to balance the reaction against the failures of the 1970s. Worse still, the people most affected by the excesses of the last thirty years, black people, are politically irrelevant since they always vote for the same Party. A Democratic Congress could approve minimum mandatory sentencing and Bill Clinton could take time out of his campaign schedule to execute a guy in Arkansas and still get 90+% of the black vote. Even if a Republican offered to end the drug war tomorrow, he still wouldn't get more than 5% of the black vote.

    At every level of government each party constantly tries to one up the other on who can be tougher on crime. That is all well and good except that after thirty years of doing that we have police forces that look like militaries and a justice system that is completely out of control.

  • ||

    excellent thoughts!

  • ||

    Also, I hate to sound like a Montana-compound separatist type, but when will be the final straw? How much longer can we, the people, take this abuse?

    You don't sound that way, seriously, but the pain threshold is now pretty high, sadly. We're too wealthy to give a fuck about this. He's just some loser in a hick state. That'll never happen here.

    Scary sounding chemicals, sexual predators and too many calories in that doughnut, sure, we can get many-a-panties wadded up over those. But police brutality? That's so 70's, man. We have more important things to worry about.

  • Episiarch||

    If the cops here in Australia busted in to some non-violent guy's house and shot him, even supposing he was selling drugs, either said cops would be disowned by the force or there would be violent revolution.

    Spare us the intra-anglosphere pissing match until Oz does something real like legalizing drugs and reducing gun restrictions. Somehow I doubt your cops are any more responsible than ours. They're cops, after all.

  • ||

    Spare us the intra-anglosphere pissing match until Oz does something real like legalizing drugs and reducing gun restrictions. Somehow I doubt your cops are any more responsible than ours. They're cops, after all.



    To my knowledge, there are no such things as no knock raids here. Certainly they are not deployed in all but the most extreme cases. The idea of the police breaking down the door of someone accused only of distributing drugs is laughable.

  • ||

    Im good for 50$.


    Radley, I hereby nominate you for the Bloglitzer.

  • ||

    "Scary sounding chemicals, sexual predators and too many calories in that doughnut, sure, we can get many-a-panties wadded up over those. But police brutality? That's so 70's, man. We have more important things to worry about."

    All true, but it is not like there was ever some gold age where the cops didn't generally treat poor people of all colors and creeds and minorities like shit. No one really cared about it then and they don't care about it now. The only way this kind of crap ends is when the police finally get so arrogant that they start kicking in doors of middle class and rich people. Then you will see some outrage, but until then, sadly I don't expect to see much.

  • ktc2||

    It's not a justice system folks. I think a good step in addressing this issue is to stop referring to it as such. Calling it a justice system gives people the wrong impression, that the legal system still serves justice. It doesn't even pretend to do so anymore.

    Changing the terminology can change the debate, or start one.

  • ||

    Citizen Nothing wrote, "Come to think of it, shouldn't there be some sort of organization devoted to solving the legal problems of the victims of these mistaken raids?"

    Would the Institute for Justice take the case, I wonder? http://www.ij.org/

  • ||

    Scratch that. I just checked the IJ website and they specifically disallow criminal cases or police/prisoner brutality claims (which means, unfortunately, that they'll never be much help in the drug war, one of the biggest engines of despotism in our history -- sort of like advertising yourself as an anti-war protest group but only specializing in mediating neighborhood gang fights).

  • whiskey||

    http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/wireStory?id=4801701

    check this out too

    (make sure you watch the video)

  • kinnath||

    Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey fill-in-the-blank said. "But we don't want to rush to judgment."

  • ||

    Any help any person wishes to provide to Tracy is very much appreciated. The ACLU has been contacted but we have yet to receive a response. We need your help. Please feel free to send Tracy's story to any person or organization that you think may be able to help. Any person wishing to contribute to Tracy's legal fund or mounting hospital bills can send donations to the Tracy Ingle Family, c/o Tiffney Forrester - The November Coalition at November.org
    or you may contact me directly - Tiffney Forrester - mysouthernbreeze@hotmail.com
    any suggestions or advice is welcome and all correspondence will be answered!!!!
    Thank you to everyone for you kind words and support.

    Tiffney forrester
    angelinblue942

  • Nat||

    What astounds me is that after Reason has published dozens of articles/posts like this over the past few years - and not just by Radley, either - the gut reaction to libertarians on left-wing blogs is always "eh, they're just greedy, pot-smoking closet Republicans." I've consistently found that you have to look pretty far left to find anyone else who cares about this kind of stuff, which is why I've now started voting for Greens over Democrats in local elections. I think most mainstream liberals would rather chew glass than ally with libertarians on a single issue, because, frankly, many of them don't think these abuses are worth worrying about when there's a national health plan at stake. And God forbid we undermine the public's trust in government.

    I think I can probably spare $50 too; I was going to donate it to the Obama campaign, but he doesn't really need my money right now.

  • squarooticus||

    How can any of you, after reading this, possibly think that a monopoly on force and justice is a good thing? Even if totalitarianism here never grows to the point that it impacts the majority, how do you expect injustices like these to disappear when increasing centralization meets court-ordered media blackouts? At that point, even the paltry liberal protection of public outrage is effectively prohibited.

    Forget all the theoretical arguments in favor of anarchy for a moment and concentrate on the actual people who are crushed by the über-state day-in and day-out, with zero recourse because they aren't wealthy enough or important enough to be able to do anything about it.

    It boils the blood.

  • brian c||

    How can this even happen?

  • ||

    A few things.

    1) As I just posted on The Agitator: The fact that they're charging him with aggravated assault may be the most outrageous thing I've ever seen in all of these types of posts you've shown us, Radley. And that's really saying something.

    2) I'd be willing to donate $50. Just that I'm about to go out of town so I can't do anything about it til after Memorial Day.

    3) You're only supposed to piss me off on Monday and Friday, Radley. I can't get used to it on a Wednesday.

  • ||

    "I think most mainstream liberals would rather chew glass than ally with libertarians on a single issue, because, frankly, many of them don't think these abuses are worth worrying about when there's a national health plan at stake."

    That is because most mainstream liberals are upper middle class professionals who have no connection to this kind of thing. It is very unlikely to happen to them or anyone they know so it doesn't resonate with them. I think that is the result of the left becoming more and more dominated by the educated and professional class. Nearly everyone in my neighborhood in Bethesda, Maryland, except me, would fit the description of mainstream liberal. Everyone there has a graduate degree and makes over six figures. There are lots of lawyers, government scientists who work at nearby NIH, and mid and high level bureaucrats and political types. The chances of the Montgomery Country police launching a no knock police raid in my neighborhood are non existent. It is therefore a non-issue to them. They care about getting day care credits so they can spend less on child care. They care about spending endlessly on education. They care about the prospect of having to take care of the elderly parents. They care about bailing out the housing industry so their homes keep their values. They care about the war but that is more of an emotional issue. It is not like any of them or any one they know would ever have to serve in it or anything. Those are the issues that appeal to most mainstream liberals and those are the things that their political leaders concentrate on giving them.

  • ||

    As a former criminal defense lawyer in Arkansas, I can assure you that this is not an isolated event. I had many cases with boilerplate search warrants where they pick out a defendant then look for a crime. In fact, after a particularly illegal raid like this (without the shooting), I raised enough hell to get a US attorney to impanel a federal grand jury to investigate me. I was followed constantly and my clients were harassed and told by the cops that if I represented them the cops would make sure they would regret it. The US attorney offered all of clients extremely sweet deals to come up with something on me. I expected a raid like this on my house at any time. I found it easier to close my practice and leave town. That may seem cowardly to some but unless you've been there you can't understand. I had to do what I could to protect my family. I wish the best for Mr. Ingle. He's is facing something far worse than an uphill battle.

  • ||

    "Spare us the intra-anglosphere pissing match until Oz does something real like legalizing drugs and reducing gun restrictions. Somehow I doubt your cops are any more responsible than ours."

    Travel much Episiarch? Doesn't sound like it. This shit does not go down in too many other respectable countries, so you might want to clam up yourself and spare the rest of us the embarrassment of explaining how clueless you are.

  • ||

    Everyone there has a graduate degree and makes over six figures. There are lots of lawyers, government scientists who work at nearby NIH, and mid and high level bureaucrats and political types. The chances of the Montgomery Country police launching a no knock police raid in my neighborhood are non existent. It is therefore a non-issue to them.

    Don't forget the Volvos and the Saabs, John. For the love of god, think of the European luxury sedans!

  • Episiarch||

    This shit does not go down in too many other respectable countries, so you might want to clam up yourself and spare the rest of us the embarrassment of explaining how clueless you are.

    Really? Please explain your exact experiences with police and warrant-serving in Commonwealth countries. Didn't Radley just recently post a link to a no-knock raid in Britain?

    Sorry, I don't mean to ask you to explain yourself--that might expose you to the embarrassment of how clueless you are.

  • Dave W.||

    good post

  • ||

    Taktix® wrote, "Also, I hate to sound like a Montana-compound separatist type, but when will be the final straw? How much longer can we, the people, take this abuse?"

    JW wrote, "Every time a status-quo'er bitches to me about how bad [insert guvmint over-reach here] has gotten, I ask them who they voted for in the last election. Was it someone who promised to reduce the scope of government in our lives, particularly the WoD, or did they vote for someone who promised them a free pony?"

    If we get to the point of massive civil unrest, and yet most of the rioters consistently voted to get ponies up until the "flash point," shame on us.

    How hard is it to identify the candidates on your ballot who are promising to hand out ponies, and just not vote for them? It's a little bit harder to find those who speak of reducing the scope of government and sincerely mean it while being competent to do it (I can't help but think of GWB's long-forgotten campaign promise of a "humbler foreign policy," for instance, as a reason to be skeptical). But I think someone who wants to do something positive instead of simply bitching can find time and brain cells to sort the wheat from the chaff before voting day.

    U.S. voters have the opportunity to officially demand a bloodless transfer of power, and to select "new Guards for their future Security." If we don't take full advantage of that opportunity, we will sell OURSELVES down the river. Unfortunately, we're all in this boat together, in the sense that foolish voting can harm not only the fools but also those who vote thoughtfully. So I think all of us who care about the issue of freedom must press JW's question at every opportunity between now and November (and in the run-up to every election, actually). I like JW's phrasing and will probably start using it myself. Thanks, JW.

  • squarooticus||

    Unfortunately, we're all in this boat together, in the sense that foolish voting can harm not only the fools but also those who vote thoughtfully.

    I could solve the problem of no-knock warrants right now if I had any freedom. Unfortunately, I live in a tyranny of the majority.

    The sooner people figure out that democracy is nothing but that---a tyranny in which the ultimate rulers are more concerned about their TiVo not recording last night's episode of American Idol than about injustice being committed because they didn't care enough to demand a government that respects natural rights---the better.

    AFAICT, the population appears to be divisible into three relevant groups: (1) those who believe democracy works fine or don't pay it much thought, (2) those who believe democracy would work fine if only we could somehow get people to care more, and (3) those who understand that democracy cannot possibly work fine because the incentives built into a democratic system guarantee a march toward tyranny.

    Since moral arguments (strangely) don't seem to sway many of you, it would do you good to read Hoppe's utilitarian arguments against democracy. They are quite eye-opening.

  • Cris||

    It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind at all times. And ultimately it's our own faults. We (the people) still have the power to change things...we just simply do nothing. Tracy's blood in on all of our hands. Abolish this moronic WAR ON DRUGS!!!

  • ||

    If you have been enlightened enough to realize the "War on Drugs" is a complete joke then you might be interested in the November Coalition..
    checkout November.org

  • squarooticus||

    Tracy's blood in on all of our hands.

    Speak for yourself.

    I am on record, as are most people here, as being against the WoD; and I additionally on record as being in favor of the peaceful abolition of the US federal government. That's where I draw the line, however: I simply will not volunteer to be squashed by the state like a bug and go down in history (ironically, even on this site!) as a kook by doing anything to challenge its authority beyond preaching the bad word about democracy and its attendant evils. Anything more would actually be counterproductive, because a voice in favor of liberty would be silenced.

    Yes, Claire Wolfe is right ("America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to start shooting the bastards"), but I'd argue that the "awkward stage" precisely involves the kinds of things that Radley (the f'ing MAN, and I mean that in the good sense!), myself, and many others here do, which is to expose the abuses of government to our respective audiences in the hope that such actions will result in change, though it's likely that our desired endpoints are slightly different.

  • ||

    I'm not sure why this is turning into a "liberals don't care" topic, considering none have chimed in supporting the police action. I imagine most liberals don't know anything about this, particular since it's not on any major news outlets (to my knowledge).

    And finally, the article notes that the no-knock warrants began with Nixon - a REPUBLICAN! Jeez.

    I am a liberal, and I think the war on drugs is awful, and the lengths we're going to persecute it absurd. I don't like gag orders, or absurd bail bonds. I hope some people are able to help this man.

  • ||

    this brought tears to my eyes. all i can do is quote dylan from the song hurricane, "I couldnt help but feel ashamed to live in a country where justice is a game." The more thing change the more they stay the same. This is some crazy shit, but not that unexpected though. Thats the problem we expect and are used to the law enforcement of this country abusing its citizens. I and no one I know has ever been helped by the police, they only do damage to innocent peoples lives.

  • ||

    I cannot figure out why these people keep doing these raids on innocent people when they know where my family is and never arrest any one. My family has to be the 5th or 6th leading producer of meth in Arkansas. They have confiscated everything they had and siezed their money but they have never put them in jail. They just order more stuff on the internet and get right back up and going. Well they have put one cousin in jail but noone else. MY family deals the stuff from Little Rock and North Little Rock all the way to Conway. IF they were serious about getting rid of the stuff most of my grandmothers 13 children and many more grandchildren would be in jail.

    The only thing I can figure is that they would rather get the money from my family than actually stop it.

  • ||

    Does anyone know if there is a defense fund of some sort set up?

  • ||

    I can help you out with that JosephineM06 if that's what your getting at.....

  • ||

    Yes, Megan
    You can send donations to jntstellitano@gmail.com through PayPal.
    or
    The November Coalition aka November.org
    Tracy Ingle c/o Tiffney forrester

    Thank you

  • Blue||

    I can attest that the police in AR are some of the most authoritarian in the country. Traveling over the bridge to West Memphis, AR can be a harrowing experience, especially if you're a college student from Memphis, or fit any other profile (nudge, wink). The residents don't seem to mind too much, especially the white ones.

    BTW, I Dugg the original article, complete with a moronic typo on my part, doh!
    http://digg.com/politics/Tracy_Ingle_Arkansan_Vitimized_by_the_Drug_War

  • ||

    Hey man... this is the country you guys wanted.

    Libertarians hitched their wagon to the current fascist administration, so it's no wonder this sort of thing is happening.

    Mayhaps that wasn't such a good idea eh?

  • ||

    Episiarch,
    Get over yourself. You are a jackass. You said something really stupid and should probably just leave it alone. Find an example of such extensive police malfeasance in a Commonwealth country that follows a similar chain of events--open warrant that sits for three weeks, no-knock raid, bullets fired into suspect, stonewalling and total arrogance from the cops, etc. etc. Now routinize this sort of behavior, throw in the equivalency arguments of morons like you, and the stupidity of the average American and you have a cocktail that is quintessentially American.

  • Blue||

    The Arkansas Times has responded to Radley's post.
    http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2008/05/drug_war_outrage.aspx

  • ||

    I'm not sure why this is turning into a "liberals don't care" topic, considering none have chimed in supporting the police action. I imagine most liberals don't know anything about this, particular since it's not on any major news outlets (to my knowledge).

    I think you answered your own question. I'm not trying to attack you; I honestly don't know why there is a total news blackout regarding this ongoing mess in the "mainstream liberal press."
    I also am completely baffled by the utter indifference of successful liberals (the sort of people with whom I smoked dope and snorted cocaine in college) to the pointless destruction brought on by the war on drugs. For a group of people who call themselves "Progressive"... et c.

  • Episiarch||

    Now routinize this sort of behavior, throw in the equivalency arguments of morons like you, and the stupidity of the average American and you have a cocktail that is quintessentially American.

    You're so fucking stupid you thought I was defending our police forces? You might want to look over my comments on any of Radley's stories first, super-genius.

    You have such a hard-on for jumping on someone who supports the police that you jumped on someone who hates the police. Well done, moron.

    My only point to the Oz commenter was that the cops aren't really much better there so comparisons are useless--the drug war has to end for the police to get better. But I guess that was a little to subtle for you. Sorry if I don't translate my statements into idiotese for you.

  • ||

    "Libertarians hitched their wagon to the current fascist administration, so it's no wonder this sort of thing is happening."

    The idea that G.W.Bush is uniquely facist, or that this would not have happened under Presidents Gore or Kerry, doesn't make much sense. If you don't believe me ask the Weavers or the Davidians.

  • ||

    Libertarians hitched their wagon to the current fascist administration, so it's no wonder this sort of thing is happening.

    And here we libertarians thought we didn't even have any real power. Now we're running police states. Got any names? I for one didn't do any of the aforementioned hitching. Any that did need to have their cards revoked and decoder rings scrambled.

    You do *know* what a libertarian is, right? Serious question. Not what caricature most people have in their heads. "No, LaRouche is a democrat." "No, we don't smoke dried kittens." (But you should free to do so!)

    I like JW's phrasing and will probably start using it myself. Thanks, JW.

    No, thank you James. I can't say I thought it was all that original, but freely quote me as much as you like. :-)

  • PatHMV||

    Ditto what James Felix said. A lot of libertarians lose a lot of potential allies when they try to lay the blame for the actions of LOCAL cops on the President of the federal government. If this was an FBI, DEA, or ATF raid, fine, blame the President, he's the boss. But the President has no control over what these local cops do. Period. Stop blaming him or the Patriot Act for the actions of these local moronic cops.

    To the extent the federal goverment has had any role in the increasing number of these scandals, it's because of the grant funding they provide, ostensibly to help fight terrorism, to local SWAT teams and regular police forces, which they use to obtain assault weaponry and all sorts of "cool" stuff that they want a chance to use. And that funding is eagerly sought after by ALL politicians for their local cops, not just Republicans.

    Assuming that the facts presented are basically accurate, what happened to Tracy Ingle is outrageous and indeed ought not be tolerated by anybody, regardless of party.

  • ||

    Blue,

    An old girlfriend of mine was a journalist in Little Rock, ARkansas back in the 1990s. She started doing an investigative story into NCAA violations at the University of Arkansas. One night an Arkansas state trooper pulled her over. She never would tell me what the guy said or did, but she stopped writing the story the next day and never asked another question about Arkansas athletics.

    Arkansas is a seriously screwed up state. The police there are known to be very authoritarian and corrupt even by the low standards of the South.

  • ||

    PatHMV,

    If it were a federal problem it would be easier to stop. It is much worse than that. How do you control hundreds of out of control DAs and police chiefs who are answerable to no one?

  • ||

    this was an FBI, DEA, or ATF raid, fine, blame the President, he's the boss. But the President has no control over what these local cops do. Period. Stop blaming him or the Patriot Act for the actions of these local moronic cops.

    Reread your own post again, escpecially the alphabety soup stuff. There are no clean hands with this. You yourself indicated that the War on Drugs is a *Federal* program, with grants doled out to local police departments to execute it. It *starts* at the top. Sadly, it doesn't stop until it hits bottom.

    And that funding is eagerly sought after by ALL politicians for their local cops, not just Republicans.

    That's not news here. It was started by a republican, but yeah, the overwhelming "me too!" pile on from both sides of the aisle was horrid.

    If you aren't outraged, or at least concerned enough to speak out, by the militarization of the police, and instead support their actions and/or vote for policiticans that do as well, then you're part of the problem.

    Be part of the solution. Don't make excuses for anyone involved.

  • Other Matt||

    Matt | May 7, 2008, 11:36am | #

    Im good for 50$.


    I'm good for the same, perhaps more depending on the penny count.

  • ||

    Blue, I take offense to your little "low standards for the South" comment. This is a real tragedy but the fact that it happened in Arkansas reflects poorly on Arkansas. Do not generalize the South and its standards. It becomes a real slippery slope when people are generalized, which by the way, is what seems to have happened to this man.

  • Other Matt||

    Forgot to mention:
    Dammit Radley, stop pissing me off.
    Fuck.
    Im too angry to type any coherent reponse.


    I'm onboard with this also.

  • Jay||

    Not every cop in Arkansas are like these scumbags. Every encounter I've had with Ft.Smith cops have been friendly and professional, even when I was clearly breaking the law. They aren't interested in the minor things like small amounts of marijuana, but like to go after the more serious problem like methamphetamine.

  • Bingo||

    Jay:

    They aren't interested in the minor things like small amounts of marijuana, but like to go after the more serious problem like methamphetamine.



    From Radley's post:

    In fact, someone scratched out "crack cocaine" and hand-wrote in "methamphetamine" on the type-written warrant



    lol.

  • anonymous||

    A DWI is both violent and drug-related. Not that it justifies what happened.

  • Stella Edwards||

    Why don't you stop judging the officers and others involved until you know all of the facts, sir? It seems you like to get hits by ranting about things of which you know little.

  • ||

    Tracy's DWI are well over 5 years old. He has been sober 4.5 years. Prior to that we are talking close to 10 years since he received a DWI. I am not excusing him, but his family is the one who provided that information to make it clear we were not to portray him as a saint. Beyond that he has been in no trouble. You cannot justify what happened to Tracy by bringing up prior DWI's, there is no excuse for what has happened.

  • ||

    Hey Stella--Radley seemed to have quite a few of those facts. Not enough for you?

    You got the facts? Put 'em up so we can all see them.

  • jay||

    He's not completely innocent... Pointing a gun at an officer, broken or not - will not end well for you.
    The fact that the gun was broken means absolutely nothing. SWAT is trained to react to the shape of a gun pointed at them, not to study the gun first and make sure it's in working condition, then maybe think about shooting the dude. It's a split second decision, The officer did the right thing.
    "GUN!"*bang*

  • ed||

    Man that really sucks im from Ireland and its getting worse all over the world I think.

    I really dont know if court can do it anymore.

  • Brian C||

    Radley, do you know of anyone setting up a defense fund or some kind of support for this poor guy? It's unbelievable what they did to him... not providing medical care? His life span is surely shortened by the round over his heart and the infections. Taking him out of the hospital to interrogate? No evidence for conviction?

  • ||

    Here come the apologists. Yeah jay, he had it comin' to him didn't he? Give him one for me!

    He pointed a non-functioning gun at a bunch of intruders in his house in the middle of the night, bright eyes.

    It's far from clear whether he knew they were the police. Considering that he hadn't done anything to even suspect that police would be breaking his door down, it's a good assumption on his part that they wouldn't be cops. Why would he point a gun at the police if he hadn't broken the law? Why should he assume they were cops? God knows they aren't acting like anyone with the duty to prtect and serve.

    The police did not do the right thing from the first move. Everything that follows is wrong. This whole thing stinks like shit on a hot summer day.

  • ||

    You yourself indicated that the War on Drugs is a *Federal* program, with grants doled out to local police departments to execute it.

    You could wipe out the DEA and the federal laws, and what happened in Arkansas would likely have happened exactly the same way. The states have their own drug laws and enforcers, you know.

    A DWI is both violent and drug-related.

    Driving is not a violent act. Hitting someone with your car is. Most DWIs do not involve accidents, so I don't think they are violent (as that word is used in the English language).

    And if a DWI is drug-related, so is knocking over a 7-11 while drunk. But I don't see anyone treating those as "drug crimes".

  • ||

    RC--True that, but having a federal bully pulpit to whip up the hysteria and a couple of nice, deep pockets doesn't help the situation at all.

    As I said, there are no clean hands here. There's enough blame to go around for both the federal and state thugs.

  • ||

    # John | May 7, 2008, 2:38pm | #
    # Hey man... this is the country you guys
    # wanted.

    # Libertarians hitched their wagon to the
    # current fascist administration, so it's
    # no wonder this sort of thing is happening.

    You must be new here. If you had been here in 2004 (or 2000? Has H&R been here that long -- I've been here almost the whole time, anyway), you would have seen much criticism of Mr. Bush the candidate as well as Mr. Bush, the President, not to mention all his partners-in-crime and many lesser minions.

    I myself have gone off here at least once and probably more than once at the preposterous claim made during the 2000 race, that GWB was "the best hope for libertarians in our lifetimes." I said it was crap then, and history has more than confirmed my assessment.

    A huge complaint that you used to hear from libertarians was that GOP politicians always campaigned like Libertarians and then governed closer to Democrats. They would talk the talk to get the libertarians to vote GOP, and then bait-and-switch us into more big-government-as-usual. These days, however, the GOP isn't even bothering with the pretense. Instead, "national greatness conservatism," paid for by borrow-spend-and-inflate policies (aka, the Neocon party line) is their stock in trade. Most Libertarians I know aren't buying it, even those who bought the insincere libertarian rhetoric of the GOP of just a few years ago.

  • ||

    I fought people like this in Iraq as an MP, and kiulled them for acting this way - our police are now acting like the Sadr Militias; if they keep pushing it, they will meet the same fate, deservedly so.

    Is there not an honest man amongst that police department to blow the whistle, or all of the corrupted or coopted?

    If the latter is the case, then I hope they all die violent gruesome deaths, deservedly so, for destroying the honor that real police officers exhibit.

  • ||

    Well, I was going to help collect money, but everyone that emailed me, it seems like a better idea to give via november.org.

  • Josh||

    This makes me sick. That's all I can really say about that.

  • bob||

    It would be interesting if a number of people inquired with local Realtors ( http://www.littlerockrealtorsassoc.com/ ) and the North Little Rock Chamber of Commerce about their local police department's policies on using SWAT teams, in their research for moving to the thriving metropolis of North Little Rock. Economics often wins over ethics in our changing world.

    By the way: North Little Rock Chamber of Commerce
    100 Main Street
    North Little Rock, AR 72114
    Phone: (501) 372-5959
    Fax: (501) 372-5955
    E-mail: nlrchamber@nlrchamber.org

  • Babz||

    It's certainly not simple but would it not be easier for the P.D. to grab the bull by the horns and admit an egregious situation? Then, it may even be palatable to fathom the fact that, if for one, you, Joe Q. Public were in the same situation, i.e. a Police Officer and broken or not, a gun is raised, you tend to shoot and ask questions later. You have to, it's how you live to tell the story to your Grandkids.

    It is a most unfortunate incident and all parties must take personal responsibility in this situation. It is especially disturbing how this fella was treated after the fact. Even a junk yard dog would get his medication in the pound, wouldn't he?

  • ||

    This is another example of the ongoing depletion of our constitutional rights. The Police can do whatever they want whenever they want. Bush and his administration are showing the world that we no longer are a free society. How arcane are we going to let it get here before it's too late?

  • ||

    Perhaps police depts nationwide need to launch a massive publice education campaign:

    "If you're woken up in the middle of night by someone breaking into your house here's what you do. DO NOT reach for a gun or any other weapon. DO NOT keep a gun anywhere near where you sleep. Do not move. Do not say anything unless spoken to. If those breaking in are police, this will save your life. If those breaking in are criminals, we'll catch them later."

  • JusticeForTracy.com||

    http://www.justicefortracy.com/index.html

  • ||

    The mind work by association and I thought of this while reading this story:

    In addition, there's an advantage to night arrests in that neither the people in neighboring apartment houses nor those on the city streets can see how many have been taken away. Arrests which frighten the closest neighbors are no event at all to those farther away. It's as if they had not taken place. Along that same asphalt ribbon on which the Black Marias scurry at night, a tribe of youngsters strides by day with banners, flowers, and gay, untroubled songs.



    I think the policy sucks and the arrogant, sadistic reaction afterwards is even worse, but I have to note that at least in this case the cops there that night were honest enough not to "find" any drugs in the house.

  • Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn||

    And everything which is by now comprised in the traditional, even literary, image of an arrest will pile up and take shape, not in your own disordered memory, but in what your family and your neighbors in your apartment remember: The sharp nighttime ring or the rude knock at the door. The insolent entrance of the unwiped jackboots of the unsleeping State Security operatives. The frightened and cowed civilian witness at their backs.

  • Rose Paul||

    I cried when I read this. Oh, that poor man. This could happen to anyone anymore!
    Perhaps I should hide my jewelry making supplies!
    To my left, I have a scale, tons of little ziplock bags - all sizes!
    In front of me, I have a bottle of LEGAL Oxycontin pills.
    I am already living in fear of the police around here. A few days ago, I saw the police sectioning off a bit of road on one of the "less" busy side roads here in Charleston and they had cars pulled over and in various states of search. I saw child seats in the road, bikes, bags, all sorts of things with cops looking through cars with dogs.
    That day, I had my oxy on me in an unlabeled container in my purse. I was so frightened that I would be pulled over and searched, they may have though those oxy's were illegal!
    Ever since then, I have an old prescription bottle with a few oxy's in it for traveling.
    I have severe neuropathy with chronic pain. I have a morphine pump inside of me and a card that says I do!
    It doesn't stop the TSA from making me strip to prove to them I am not wired when I need to fly to another state to get the pump refilled. That is right! Every doctor in SC is scared to death to treat chronic pain people so I have to fly to Atlanta for care!!!
    I cannot believe I now live in a country where I must live in fear of jack boots or cossacks!
    Those cops who run around with the "special ops" crap is a joke, they are bullies and hot heads and nothing more. the got the gun, so they got the power. I bet they were bullies in school too!!
    This country is becoming a country of narcs. The cops will give you a door prize if you "tell on" someone.
    That neighbor was just trying to do the right thing and now he is afraid too.
    Is there anything the pain community, http://www.painfoundation.org/ can do?

  • Tom Murlowski||

    Those wishing to contribute to Tracy Ingle's mounting legal expenses can now donate directly via PayPal at: http://www.justicefortracy.com

    Thank you for your generousity.
    Tom Murlowski
    November Coalition
    http://www,november.org

  • ||

    ###Angelinblue942 | May 7, 2008, 2:24pm | #
    ###I can help you out with that JosephineM06 if that's what your getting at.....

    Are you an Ark Cop? They have already said they are "watching the situation". I would be more than happy to e-mail you names and such if ya can actually do something. There is a small baby involved and my cousin is pregnant again..

  • ||

    I'm so tired of this police state railroading BS I am increasingly reading more and more about. I will gladly contribute some money to help Ingle find a good lawyer if it turns out he really is innocent.

  • Fredric L. Rice||

    The Christofascist State. Lovely, isn't it?

  • ||

    JosephineM06...
    I am no longer a Police Officer in Arkansas or anywhere else. The people that actually want to help others and make a difference, usually get out, burn out or conform....I chose to get out.
    But I can still help you....contact me a tiffney@novemeber.org
    You can find more on Tracy's story, ask questions, blog...etc at
    justicefortracy.com

  • ||

    russell....how are you going to find out if he is "really innocent" if he has no legal representation.....
    Can you even remotely give me a clue of what he MIGHT be guilt of?
    check out the warrants on his site
    justicefortracy.com

  • ||

    To hell with this guy. The country installed Boosh and now they are paying the consequences. Maybe is this guy dies in prison the people will get mad and vote Obama in. Too bad dude but sacrifices have to be made and you are it.

  • ||

    Unfotunately an all too common problem. Where I live the county swat team has shot several people during raids in the past year including a bookie who never owned a gun and certainly was not possesing one when he was shot. Another was from a no-knock warrant in which the raided party thought he was being robbed, drew his gun and was hit by the swat team. No-knock warrants should be maybe less than 5 percent of drug warrants but they account for much more than that, another example of putting public safety behind the protocol of the war on drugs.

  • ||

    he was banging one of the police deputies girlfriends

    see vid > http://tinyurl.com/38knvm

  • Alex||

    I donated $10. Its been a rough month, so thats all I can afford.

    On a personal note, it truely breaks my heart to see the constitution, a document that I swore to defend with my life, so blatently disregared.

  • Diehard31575||

    If Mr. Ingle had been black he would have had Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson so far up the NLR police's ass with a top notch lawyer in tow. Poor Mr. Ingle only has ChrisV to take up for him. You go ChrisV.

  • Albert Burfel||

    Sounds to me like the Little Cock po-lIce department needs a no-knock. Any real men out there with some experience? At least some sniper action.

    This is going to happen more and more though all across the country if real men don't stand up and start taking back this country, by force if need be. Until that happens, there will be more Ingles.

  • justicefortracy.com||

    justicefortracy.com

  • Gillian||

    heartbreaking. i donated.

  • ||

    The thing that is really amusing me is the fact that you have people bitching about the whole "this doesn't happen in my country" thing when we all know it does. Let's get back to realizing the true factor contained within this story: "The price good men pay for indifference to current events is to be ruled by evil men", Aristotle. The people from the "Commonwealth" end need to get over themselves as much as the "True Americans". This could happen anywhere and the truly righteous in all countries should not tolerate this behavior from their elected and appointed officials.

  • ||

    Oops...meant Socrates....middle of grading finals.

  • jim||

    i hope this has been passed along to some high-profile lawyer or some lawyer wanting to make a name for himself/herself who is willing to take a case like this. the payoff from this case would be future cases built on the backs of doing what is right for people. to me, this has national profile written all over it, and a future movie about city corruption.

    i hope Ingle would get the proceeds of such an endeavor. this tragedy needs a happy ending.

  • ||

    The funniest (read: saddest) thing about all this is that we have three potential worse-than-Bush candidates everybody's jizzing for when the only good one is shut out. WTF, America? Suck my dick you pussy assed fuckers.

  • justicefortracy.com||

    Jim - Don't "hope" that someone passes this along to a good/high profile Attorney - (respectfully) Just do it....the more people this tragic story reaches the better chance we have of finding that Attorney your speaking of. Tracy cannot work, he cannot kick someones ass...hell he does not even own a computer.....Our family needs everyones help......I don't care who you vote for, who your pissed at, if your green party, democrat or republican.....We all know what happen is wrong and together WE....yes, WE can make a difference........Lets kicks some ass and take some names.......

  • Justin||

    Hey Nick do me a favor Get your head out of your ass and post something that is actually worth reading. If someone came into my house cop or not and I was sleeping I would have done the same thing. I think that you would as well if you weren't being an asshole.

  • ||

    This is straight out of Terry Gilliam's Brazil.

  • ||

    I don't think this is an isolated case. The war on drugs sure gives them a great excuse though.

  • ||

    war on drugs was over a long time ago, now it's fighting to control the amount in the country. Second I would like to know how the police officers were to tell that the gun he pointed at them was broken? Was there a big flag hanging out of the barrel saying "flawed"? Just asking.

  • ||

    This is probably one of the most outrageous things I have read in a long time. i can't believe that the law-enforcement officers shot at him 5 times when he didn't fire a shot. what's more there should have been communication between the two teams going in to his house. and further than that WHY THE HELL IS HE GETTING A DRUG CHARGE? NO EVIDENCE OF DRUGS WAS FOUND!!!

    this is all bull sh*t in my opinion and that poor man has my prayers and my donation.

  • ||

    am i the only one who thinks he's guilty? all of the evidence is there, unless you trust someone who has no evidence given in the article that she actually does make jewelry. and what are the cops supposed to do if somebody pulls out a gun? how do they know it's broken?

  • ||

    Heads are gonna roll! I hate how ligitous this country has become, BUT this poor guy deserves millions and a public apology and his intimidated neighbor should try as well. Then when he wins, and he WILL, the whole police department gets an overhaul and put on probation. Shame shame SHAME!

  • ||

    if you don't like this type of treatment of fellow citizens, maybe you should do something about it?

  • Thomas Paine\'s Goiter||

    If the cops here in Australia

    Wait a minute...

    ...Chriiiiiis, did you once coordinate the transfer of thousands of dollars from caring poker players around the world, overwhelming a short-staffed charity in Virginia?

  • ||

    and so the seeds of disillusion were blown by the wind called a web. some settled in the cracks of side walks, others on mountains. but all allowed their roots to hold the earth. and so the seeds from one tree grew. independently, slightly different from one another, due to surrounding, none the less producing the same fruit. some were cut down, some starved out by invasive species, none the less all who survived flowered and fruited and spread seed again. and so it goes until our fruit is once again food for all who are in need of it.
    change happens right now and just then
    -SOMOS I
    >eve had the right idea...
    / for making our world a better place, Lou, I brought you a bushel of fresh apples

  • Snall||

    I believe a no-knock warrant is for when they believe there is danger, not because it needs to happen quickly.

  • Malkavian||

    Could it happen somewhere else besides in the USA? It's popular to say it can't, but I'm not so sure.

    One must remember that the USA has a framework of law enforcement that for many years have recruited certain people to the job as police officer. The kind of people who really LIKE to DO that kind of dirty work in the War on Drugs.

    In my country, Denmark, we haven't the same laws. We're a lot more lenient and less rights have been take from us. However, the police ever so often kill someone during arrests here. One guy - according to my source not one of God's favorite children - was high on cannabis and cocaine or smphetamine, and he simply died during the arrest because the two cops were pressing him down on the ground with the full weight of two grown men. When paramedics arrived at the scene (this was NOT in the news) they just STOOD there doing nothing for Arne as he was getting more and more blue on the lips, hands and head. The first reaction from the establishment was, of course, to exonerate the cops. It took a VERY critical TV documentary and several pathologists in Britain to even make the judge look at the case again.

    People like that ... give them more laws that decrease accountability and we're on a straight line to US conditions.

  • ||

    I love and hate to hear such stories of abuse of police power.

    Love to hear them because I am pleased that word is getting out and there is a possibility that policy will change and the thugs in uniform who did this will be punished.

    Hate to hear them because each time this happens it is an absolute disgrace. How dare these bullies ruin a mans life and intimidate those connected with the outrage.

    No wonder the police oppose certain areas of civil liberties. That way, it is far easier to carry out terrible screw-ups like the case of Tracy Ingle without any accountability.

    Shame on us all for allowing this to happen. We should stand up for our rights, worldwide, before they are lost for good. We should stand against injustice and abuse of police power. Do not give up your liberties, do not assume that the police must always be doing the right thing. Cases like Tracy Ingle show us otherwise.

  • Christina||

    This whole War on Drugs has GOT to go. Even if practiced as preached, it's prosecting people for crimes they MIGHT commit. ("We gotta arrest them stoners; they might hold up Granny to get a fix!") The way it's actually PRACTICED is to brazenly Unconstitutional that it's like living in Looking Glass Land to see what cops get away with in terms of unreasonable searc and seizure. Not to mention all the piss tests, which are forcing people to self-incriminate if ANYTHING is!

  • ||

    I just read this and donated ... i encourage everyone who able to donate ... even a small amount is helpful in these situations ... five dollars even can go a long way to easing the suffering of this man ... i'd say unbelievable but it is perfectly believable and that has to be the saddest aspect of this entire, shameful event

    hang tough Tracy ...

  • angelinblue942||

    We love your passion about Tracy's story. Please share your comments, thoughts, ideas...etc
    on Tracy's site.....
    justicefortracy.com

    Karlee - I posted your stupid comment on the site....

  • ||

    "nothing drug-related. He has had a couple of DWI's,"

    nothing drug related? ALCOHOL IS A DRUG.



    "He apparently also agreed to do some repair work on a friend's car that later turned out to be stolen."

    that seems a little suspicious.



    "Ingle says he thought his home was being invaded by armed robbers."

    armed robbers in police uniforms?



    "He reached for a broken gun, a pretty clear indication that he had no intention of killing anyone, but rather was trying to scare away the intruders. "

    how did the cops know it was broken? what are they supposed to do when somebody pulls a gun on them?



    "where he was questioned for five hours. He was not told he was suspected of a crime,"

    if he wasn't told he was susupected of a crime, what was he questioned about for five hours?



    "They did find a scale, which Ingle's sister tells me was an extra she was given when she worked at a medical testing facility. She used it in her jewelry-making hobby. They also found a bunch of small plastic bags. Again, Ingle's sister says these were part of her business."

    what do you use a scale for in the jewelry making business? and where is the proof that his sister makes jewelry?

    and if she was storing her things at his house, why only her jewelry making things? and why were the baggies in his car and the scale in his house?

  • ||

    a gun, police scanner, small plastic bags, and a scale?

    This guy WAS DEALING

  • ||

    Just blatant proof that cops still think they can do whatever they want and get away with it. The US gov't is the biggest gang.

  • ||

    Im not saying the guys guilty, and i suppose maybe he was disoreinted. But why point a gun at a person. Now they say he didnt intend to hurt anyone becuase the gun was broken. Well thats even worse. Why have a broken gun in your home. Just stupid. I hope this guy sees some justice, but his story does have some strange holes in it.

  • ||

    Little Rock PD SUCKS.

  • ||

    Nick when it happens to you we will look for strange holes.

  • ||

    I guess if having a broken gun, scale, and baggies makes you a drug dealer the police will be meeting me at home today.

    A broken gun is in my home for sentimental reasons.

    I use my scale in the kitchen for recipes.

    I have lots of little baggies for carrying the drugs that keep me alive.

    Oops, almost forgot, back in college I was arrested for having a joint.

    Definitely, I must be a drug dealer.

  • ||

    I dont blame the cops for shooting him, If i was raiding the house of what i thought was a dangerous drug dealer i would have no problems with blowing him away if he threatened my life by aiming what could be a loaded working gun at me. those guys dont have time to think because their lives could be at risk

    Also i admire the lengths police will go to to punish drug dealers, i think its a disgusting drain on our society.

    However the cops still going after him seems totally out of line, by what this article says there doesnt seem to be any real evidence to call Ingle a drug dealer. I think they fucked up, and they know it, but just wont admit it

  • angelinblue942||

    angelinblue942

    Fri, 09 May 2008 08:12:36
    Q
    nothing drug-related. He has had a couple of DWI's,"nothing drug related? ALCOHOL IS A DRUG.

    A - Having a 5 year old DWI has nothing to do with this case. It does NOT fall under the "War on Drugs".....that comment is totally stupid.

    Q -"He apparently also agreed to do some repair work on a friend's car that later turned out to be stolen."that seems a little suspicious.

    A - Suspicious? WTF....he does repair work. Do people ask for your car title when you have work done? The actual owner of the car testified on Tracy's behalf. The car was left with Tracy as "collateral", by a person who owed him money. Once they paid the money they were supposed to pick up the car.....
    It's not an excuse, but when you have a disability and work odd jobs there are times you come accros bad people.
    Dumb ass!



    Q -"Ingle says he thought his home was being invaded by armed robbers."
    armed robbers in police uniforms?

    A - OMG....did you read to story you f**king Jag off? Tracy was asleep, it was dark...the SWAT team was in BLACK fatigues (only marked on the backs of their shirts) The eye witness account tells us they did not bust in the house backwards, nor did they announce themselves.

    Q - "He reached for a broken gun, a pretty clear indication that he had no intention of killing anyone, but rather was trying to scare away the intruders. "how did the cops know it was broken?
    what are they supposed to do when somebody pulls a gun on them?

    A - What difference does it make? Tracy had the mental capacity to set the gun down once he realized police were in his house. The police began shooting AFTER the gun was set down, upon one officer screaming "He's gotta Gun".
    Tracy has no violent past, nor a drug past...The police had no reason to go in with a 3 week old "no-knock" warrant, signed by a freakin traffic court judge. Not to mention he has the right to protect himself.
    Q - "where he was questioned for five hours. He was not told he was suspected of a crime,"if he wasn't told he was suspected of a crime, what was he questioned about for five hours?

    A - Well, why don't you tell us smartass. He was very medicated being transferred from intensive care to a regular room when the police showed up at the hospital. Tracy was told by the police that they needed to speak with him in regards to the investigation into his shooting. Tracy did not know his rights nor did he have the mental capacity since he was heavily medicated with morphine to even object. By then why would he? He had not done anything wrong....When our family when to the police dept we were refused access............five hours later in extreame pain and confusion Tracy is arrested.
    Q"They did find a scale, which Ingle's sister tells me was an extra she was given when she worked at a medical testing facility. She used it in her jewelry-making hobby. They also found a bunch of small plastic bags. Again, Ingle's sister says these were part of her business."

    Q -what do you use a scale for in the jewelry making business? and where is the proof that his sister makes jewelry?

    Answer - Not that it is any of your freaking business but it was used to weigh-out silver.....what proof is needed dumb ass having a scale is not illegal. Not to mention there were boxes and boxes of jewelry making material AND that it is MY FREAKING HOUSE!

    Q - and if she was storing her things at his house, why only her jewelry making things? and why were the baggies in his car and the scale in his house?
    A - Are you really this freakin stupid? What makes you think I only have my jewelry making stuff at the house? Everything in the house is mine.....
    and just for the record, I do not live in Arkansas (thank GOD) Tracy had boxed up items I had asked for so they could be mailed to me.

    Take off your rose colored glasses....

  • Logan||

    Regardless of what you feel about how the police acted during the raid, they never should have been granted a no-knock warrant in the first place. With no controlled buy either to establish probable cause, this is just horrible police work. Now taxpayers get to foot the bill for that too. Legalize drugs and tax them, we accept it with alcohol because it is ingrained in our society but really prohibition is just a horrible economic idea.

  • centac||

    For example, if during a traffic stop I observe an empty coffee can or bag in your car, your car is getting searched, no ifs ands or buts.

  • John E||

    This is just really sick. I hope Tracy gets a large settlement to at least make him more comfortable. The police that fired at him should also be sent to prision not that this will ever happen, at our current state police are above the law. Want proof look at the recent ruling for the shooting on the african american's wedding day. Hopefully I can get on my feet and apply for citizenship in Canada soon.

  • John E||

    Why does every article start of calling Tracy not the perfect person. He has some small time charges, it should start off different. Leave it to the press to kick em while their down. I am betting this ends up in the millions for a settlement. Not that I would want this to happen to me even if I was paid millions.

  • ||

    When are the people going to get tired of this B.S. from gov't. From the Feds to the local pin heads they are out of control. In the 60's they were known as PIGS. I think the term is more relevent now than it was then. Maybe if we get the same toys they have, they won't be quite as pushy.

  • Bryan Morton||

    Government is not about justice, or right and wrong. It's about the exercise of power and subservience. That's the nature of the beast and the lesson of history which we never seem to learn.

  • ||

    Same thing happened in Atlanta, GA. Police did a raid on the wrong house. When they busted the door down in a no-knock warrant, they were fired at by a 90 year old black woman who was just trying to defend herself, she didnt know it was the police, she thought she was getting robbed! They shot and killed her. Come to find out, and cop was found quilty for purposly putting the wrong address on a report that he purchased drugs from the house.

  • ||

    America, Guilty until proven innocent. The "war on drugs" has ruined our system of justice.

  • ||

    Something to keep in mind:

    Cop = Adrenaline Addict

  • ||

    I can pony up a C-note if the fund is legit. This the ineviable result of our bizarre war on drugs. Legalize it, regulate it like alcohol and tax the dog sh@t out of it. We will have a bad problem for 25 years then it will solve itself. This is a no brainer. BTW, Hi Melanie in Pine Bluff if you read this.///////Jamie in Inverness.

  • ||

    I'm at the point after reading this stuff, that we should actively shoot police like rabid animals. I'd rather have no police at all if they keep at this kind of idiocy.

    As for the politicians that support this kind of thing: targeted assassinations.

  • Larry||

    I have a set of small scales I use for weighing model railroad cars.
    I have a collection of small Ziploc bags that I use for small model railroad parts (like coupler springs)
    My wife is a cancer patient and has oxycotin at the house.
    I guess I'm dealing too, right?
    Jackass.

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  • ||

    I'd shoot the piece of shit too. How you tell guns "broken"?

  • Jim`s Mother||

    Wow, talk about "blame the victim"

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