Jacob Sullum | January 16, 2008
This week a federal judge ruled that a Texas law prohibiting out-of-state retailers from shipping wine directly to consumers while permitting in-state retailers to do so violates the Commerce Clause by creating a discriminatory barrier to interstate trade. You may have thought that issue was settled by Granholm v. Heald, the 2005 case in which the U.S. Supreme Court said discriminating against out-of-state wineries in this manner was unconstitutional. But liquor wholesalers, who are desperate to preserve the "three-tier system" that gives them a stranglehold on the distribution of alcoholic beverages in most states, argued that retailers did not deserve the same evenhanded treatment as wineries. Although U.S. District Judge Sidney Fitzwater disagreed, he handed the wholesalers a partial victory by agreeing that Texas has a legitimate regulatory interest in maintaining the three-tier system and may therefore require that out-of-state retailers buy the wine they ship directly to Texans from wholesalers in Texas. What that means, according to the Santa Rosa, California, Press Democrat, is that "a California retailer like Wine Country Gift Baskets would have to buy wine from a Texas wholesaler, ship it back to California and repackage it in baskets, and then ship it back to Texas."
That does not sound very practical, and it leaves Texas wholesalers with the same privileges they had before, controlling nearly all the alcoholic beverages sold to Texans (except for those sold directly by wineries, which are allowed to circumvent wholesalers under state law). The Specialty Wine Retailers Association is nevertheless calling this decision an important victory, since it undermines the arguments wholesalers throughout the country have been pressing in support of protectionist laws. The ruling also may put out-of-state retailers in a better position to ask the Texas legislature to endorse a more sensible and consumer-friendly system.
[Thanks to The Wine Commonsewer for the tip.]
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The three tier system is meant to protect children under 21 from getting alcohol, it is a good idea and should be strictly enforced.
What that means, according to the Santa Rosa, California, Press Democrat, is that "a California retailer like Wine Country Gift Baskets would have to buy wine from a Texas wholesaler, ship it back to California and repackage it in baskets, and then ship it back to Texas."
Wouldn't the Texas wholesaler have to buy the wine from CA
first?
I know it's pie-in-the-sky dreaming, but with Bell's re-entering the Illinois market as "Kalamazoo Brewing Co." and about to get sued by the former Illinois distributor of Bell's (back story here), I'm really hoping that they get the whole three-tiered system struck down as an unconstitutional restraint on trade. More realistically, I'm hoping that they strike down the law that makes it virtually impossible for breweries to switch distributors (which they did with respect to spirits when they struck down the Wirtz Law). Well, I guess I can at least take solace in the fact that the distributors aren't actually state-owned like in some states.
I will use this thread to put in a plug for Texas wines. They are quite good and reasonably priced. Do not overpay for a California wine when you can get a great wine from the Texas hill country for less than half the price!!
You Texans must be sooo proud. I'd love to know who appointed the mentally impaired Sidney Fitzwater to the federal bench. I don't know myself, but I'll bet he was a Republican.
John, we produce better wine in Michigan than Texas. Not as much, but higher quality. I'm sure your average Texan wine drinker (Thunderbird, Boone's Farm, MD 20-20...) disagrees.
J Sub D,
Fitswater ruled the law unconstitutional as he should have. Why
does that make him mentally impared? Am I just missing the joke? I
have never had Michigan wine, so I can't argue with you. I will
have to try some.
The ruling also may put out-of-state retailers in a better
position to ask the Texas legislature to endorse a more sensible
and consumer-friendly system.
Wow. "Sensible" and "Texas Legislature" in the same sentence.
Good luck.
Why does that make him mentally impared?
From the article -
Fitzwater disagreed, he handed the wholesalers a partial
victory by agreeing that Texas has a legitimate regulatory interest
in maintaining the three-tier system and may therefore
require that out-of-state retailers buy the wine they ship directly
to Texans from wholesalers in Texas. [my
emphasis]
Any more questions?
John,
Define "quite good and reasonably priced"....then name three reds
that can run with the big dogs.
For the record I'm a bit of an Aussie red fan and only drink west
coast on rare occasion. Texass? Really? do tell!
John, I was joking while slamming Texas wine. Some of it is really good. Michigan, and of course New York, also have some excellent wineries.
Regarding the judges rule that out-of-state retailers must buy
from a Texas wholesaler, it should be noted that currently this is
illegal under both Texas and most other state's laws.
For the judicially minded among you, I'd suggest that you think
about this decision in terms of the Pike v. Bruce Church precedent.
Unfortunately, the Judge, though required to apply the "Pike" test
in determining if such a rule the wholesalers advanced and that he
accepted, was an undue burden on interstate commerce, he failed to
do so. I suspect he or another court will in fact be asked to
address this question.
All and all, a very positive decisions for consumers and retailers
across the country as it will make discriminatory laws more
difficult to defend and to advance.
Tom Wark
Specialty Wine Retailers Association
I have a legitimate regulatory interest in Fuck you, Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.
John,
Define "quite good and reasonably priced"....then name three reds
that can run with the big dogs."
I like a Becker Vineyards makes and excellent Malbec and even
better Barbara. I also like the Cab reserve and their Grenache. All
for under $20 a bottle. Although it is a White, I would match their
Viognier against any of the California ones.
I would also highly reccomend Fall Creek vineyard which makes
something called a Meritus, which is basically a big Bourdeaux,
which is awesome, although a bit pricey at $40 a bottle.
So let me get this straight: A California wine seller would have to send the bottles of wine to Texas where the wine is put into boxes and then ship it back to California where they put the wine back into bottles?
What that means, according to the Santa Rosa, California,
Press Democrat, is that "a California retailer like Wine Country
Gift Baskets would have to buy wine from a Texas wholesaler, ship
it back to California and repackage it in baskets, and then ship it
back to Texas."
Nonsense. The wine doesn't need to leave California until its
ordered by the consumer. Wine Country Gift Baskets will need to
contract with a Texas wholesaler, which will hold the wine ordered
from Texas for a nanosecond before it leaves teh WCGB
warehouse.
Granted, the Texas wholesaler is still collecting rent under an
onerous and stupid law, but it isn't as bad as they make it
out.
This, of course, only works if this:
Regarding the judges rule that out-of-state retailers must buy
from a Texas wholesaler, it should be noted that currently this is
illegal under both Texas and most other state's laws.
goes away.
I have a legitimate regulatory interest in Fuck you, Texas
Alcoholic Beverage Commission.
Amen to that.
"Sensible" and "Texas Legislature" in the same
sentence.
Why is that so inconceivable? Try this example: There are no
sensible people in the Texas Legislature. It's worked quite well
for me for years.
"I have a legitimate regulatory interest in Fuck you, Texas
Alcoholic Beverage Commission."
In all honesty, the TABC is not the enemy when it comes to this
issue. It's the Texas legislature, doing the bidding of Texas
wholesalers, that have worked so hard to make consumer access to
wine so difficult. The TABC is charged with carrying out those laws
passed by the legislature.
The solution the judge offered (having out of state retailers buy
from TX wholesalers) is not only practically impossible as well as
illegal in nearly every state, it is also an unconstitutional
burden on interstate commerce.
Tom Wark
Specialty Wine Retailers Associaiton
Here lie the boundaries of federalism.
(although I completely agree with pro-big gov/pro-federal/pro-trade
stance in this case)
John,
Thanks for the leads...I'll see if I can't run some down and try
it. Sub $20 is just the slot we enjoy for most of our weekday
quaffing. A quick search shows that Becker can still ship to
Ohio...for the moment...until some the same protectionist spirit
and special interest dollars ruin things for those if us lost in
middle America.
D
The TX lege comes back in Jan '09, and will doubtless continue the bought and paid for monopolies...Hmmm, I need to research contris from out of TX gambling interests who profit mightily from our ban on casinos.
I'm sure your average Texan wine drinker (Thunderbird, Boone's Farm, MD 20-20...) disagrees.
I can't compare TX an MI wines but I do take issue with the Boone's
Farm comment. I've not had Boone's Farm since the night I lost my
virginity more than 20 years ago. It was a bad night all around and
I decided right then that everything I put in my mouth would be a
quality product.
All this talk of shipping and re-bottling wine back and forth to
its own origin is reminding me of the proposed ADHAFY from a bit
back. I suspect jokes generate karmaic backlash more effectively
than sobriety, which is one reason libertarians (and the rest of
the hyper-cynical folks of the world) can never get all too
far.
Also, I feel it necessary to point out that the ADHAFY sounds like
a valuable public service but by its nature it overlooks the urban
poor living in apartments with no yards (front or back), standing
as yet another example of how "public services" often end up being
taxpayer subsidies for the more affluent segments of society!
Michelle you funny girl. :-) 'Tis, however, a fact, life is too
short to drink bad wine.
Speaking of quality in the mouth, I had the absolutely worst Pinot
(shaddup) last night. 2006 Estancia Pinot Noir. Avoid it like the
plague. Doubly irritating since it isn't particularly cheap
($13.00-$20.00).
On a marginally related note, there are wineries in every state
these days. And much of the wine is quite decent. If I could make
google search my blog better I'd do a shameless plug and link. Big
Sigh. But, since google can't find the post easily and I'm
lazy.....
I generally like Estancia for the money but I will avoid that one though- thanks. Even with my quality vow in place, I've been mistaken enough on both the wine and men fronts that I pay attention to clues. ;o)
I generally like Estancia for the money
And, I think you're quite right. For instance, I had a bottle of
Estancia Meritage a while back that was really nice. Gratuitous
self-promotion:
2004 Estancia Meritage
I will use this thread to put in a plug for Texas wines. They are quite good and reasonably priced. Do not overpay for a California wine when you can get a great wine from the Texas hill country for less than half the price!!
IANAWS, but I would agree that you can get some very good deals on
Texican wines. Even in a tourist trap like Gruene.
, Press Democrat, is that "a California retailer like Wine
Country Gift Baskets would have to buy wine from a Texas
wholesaler, ship it back to California and repackage it in baskets,
and then ship it back to Texas."
Pfft, and they say all the liquor rackets died with the end of
Prohibition.
My ass.
Having read Judge Fitzwater's decision about the requirement that retailers get their wine from Texas wholesalers, I don't think he is necessarily saying that he likes the law or thinks it's a good idea. He cites specific Supreme Court authority saying that Texas has the right to require wine to be purchased from in-state wholesalers (no matter what kind of a "burden" that would place on interstate commerce). He is simply applying Supreme Court precedent, which he is bound to do.
He cites specific Supreme Court authority saying that Texas has
the right to require wine to be purchased from in-state wholesalers
(no matter what kind of a "burden" that would place on interstate
commerce). He is simply applying Supreme Court precedent, which he
is bound to do."
No burden on interstate commerce, once challenged, can go without
investigation, particularly one such at this that for all practical
purposes puts a stop to legitimate interstate commerce. The mistake
made here was the Judge's apparent refusal to employ the balancing
test that is always done when the state interferes with interstate
commerce.
Tom Wark
Specialty Wine Retailers Association.
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