The Wrong Kind of Toyotathon

The unintended consequences of an unintended acceleration panic

Ronald Bailey | March 16, 2010

Tales of runaway cars have a long history. The first sudden acceleration study by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) was done in 1978 and the agency had conducted more than 100 investigations involving 20 manufacturers by 1990. By the mid-1980s, the NHTSA, prodded by the Naderite Center for Auto Safety, was looking into a couple of thousand sudden acceleration incidents. A Nexis search finds that by 1987, NHSTA was reportedly investigating sudden acceleration in over 10 million vehicles involving models from Ford, GM, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Volvo, and Audi. The Center for Auto Safety—which is closely associated with plaintiffs’ attorneys—claimed that sudden acceleration had resulted in more than 2,000 accidents, at least 650 injuries, and 23 fatalities among the car models under investigation. 

Twenty-five years ago, sudden acceleration fears focused on the Audi 5000. At the time, most experts concluded that the drivers were mistakenly pushing the accelerator when they thought they were applying the brakes. Not surprisingly, pushing an accelerator accelerates a car. But in November 1986, the CBS television program 60 Minutes featured a mom who had run over her kid in her Audi. To illustrate the Audi menace, the CBS program also showed an Audi—rigged with a hidden canister of compressed air—lurching out of control.

By 1989, Audi was a plaintiff in 120 sudden acceleration lawsuits claiming damages amounting to $5 billion. Finally, in 1989, the Canadian government issued a report blaming the sudden acceleration on “driver error.” Two months later, a NHTSA report found the cause to be “pedal misapplication,” a euphemism for driver error. CBS asserted that it did not need to correct its reporting, dismissing the NHTSA report as “an opinion.” The Audi episode subsequently spurred most automakers to install brake transmission interlock devices which require that brakes be depressed when shifting gears out of park, forcing drivers to focus on depressing the brake. Reports of unintended acceleration declined shortly thereafter, bolstering the contention that most incidents involved driver error.

And now we have out-of-control Toyotas. NHTSA has received reports linking 52 deaths and 38 injuries since 2000 to sudden unintended acceleration of Toyota vehicles. Last fall, Toyota recalled millions of cars to fix their gas pedals. Department of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood further stoked public anxiety when he testified at a congressional hearing in February, "My advice is, if anybody owns one of these vehicles, stop driving it, take it to the Toyota dealer because they believe they have the fix for it.” LaHood quickly withdrew his remark saying he had “obviously misspoken” and what he was trying to say was that Toyota owners should get their automobiles fixed as soon as possible. 

Then last week, Californian James Sikes claimed that he drove his Prius for 34 miles as it accelerated to more than 90 miles per hour despite trying to brake it. A media firestorm erupted, but a week later neither federal investigators nor Toyota technicians have been able to reproduce what Sikes claims had happened. An independent check by the automotive publication Edmunds.com also found that applying the brakes or putting the car in neutral will bring a Prius to a halt. Further doubt has been cast on Sikes’ account after an onboard self-diagnostic system revealed that the brakes and the accelerator on his Prius had been alternately pumped 250 times during the alleged runaway event.

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that the reported cases of sudden acceleration are for real and not being cobbled together by greedy drivers and unscrupulous plaintiffs’ lawyers seeking jackpots from playing civil jury roulette. How dangerous is driving a Toyota? First, consider that last year highway fatalities in the U.S. fell to 33,963, which is the lowest number of traffic deaths since 1954. Taking the number of miles traveled into account, the 2009 traffic fatality rate is the lowest ever at 1.16 deaths per 100,000,000 vehicle miles traveled. Nevertheless, this means that on average 93 people per day died in traffic accidents in the U.S. last year. Assuming that 52 people really have died in Toyota sudden acceleration events over the past decade that would net out to 0.015 people killed per day. Thus the 2009 daily rate of traffic deaths was 6,200 times higher than deaths from sudden acceleration incidents. To get a sense of the risks we run, the daily traffic death rate also compares to the 20 people per day who die from taking non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) like aspirin, mostly to manage the symptoms of arthritis. In other words, you are 1,300 times more likely to die from taking aspirin or other NSAID than from a sudden acceleration accident.

And what about the cost? Toyota estimates that the accelerator recall repairs will cost $1.1 billion. This means that Toyota is spending over $21 million per alleged sudden acceleration fatality. The National Safety Council calculates that the average economic cost of motor vehicle fatalities is $1.3 million per death. Even using a measure that includes quality of life variables and people’s willingness to pay to reduce their health and safety risks, the total cost adds up to $4.2 million per motor vehicle death. And who knows how many millions or billions more Toyota will end up paying once the trial lawyers get finished?

To get a sense of the safety trade-offs involved in spending $1.1 billion to prevent sudden acceleration events, consider enhanced seat belt reminder systems. Such systems chime every 30 seconds for five minutes to remind drivers and passengers to buckle up. A rough estimate is that it would have cost $1.4 billion ($140 a piece) to equip the 10 million vehicles sold last year with the system. Studies show that enhanced seat belt reminders annoy people enough such that they increase their seat belt usage by 5 percent. Each percent increase in seat belt usage is estimated to save 250 lives per year, so an overall 5 percent increase would save an estimated 1,250 lives compared to five lives per year saved by preventing Toyota sudden acceleration events.

Safety panics can and do mislead regulators and consumers about real safety priorities. Bottom line: Do yourself a favor, buckle up—it will greatly improve your chances of surviving an automobile accident, whether it's caused by intentional acceleration, unintentional acceleration, or "pedal misapplication."

Ronald Bailey is Reason's science correspondent. His book Liberation Biology: The Scientific and Moral Case for the Biotech Revolution is available from Prometheus Books.

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Are there any real cases of malfunctioning cars causing unintended acceleration. Is it all just "driver error" and cons?

prolefeed|3.16.10 @ 5:28PM|#

I had a Thunderbird that accelerated due to the floor mat riding up under the accelerator pedal. Turned off the ignition, and after that ALWAYS checked floor mat placement on any car I was driving.

Dunno if I would characterize that incident as a vehicle malfunction, though.

oaktownadam|3.16.10 @ 5:32PM|#

That was a problem in the newest Toyota pickups....Toyota's fix? "Remove the floor mats"

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My Toyota has a little hook that holds the factory floor mat in place so it doesn't slide over.

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Paul|3.16.10 @ 5:34PM|#

There undoubtedly are. The question is, once the acceleration occurs, what's the remedy.

Almost every car manufactured can suffer from "sudden acceleration syndrome", geezer profile of the driver notwithstanding. A corroded or damaged throttle cable- or broken spring on the actuator could leave a car accelerating - drive-by-wire or no... a jammed floor mat, a wayward lap dog. All manner of things might cause one or two of the MILLIONS of cars on the road to accelerate in a way that the driver doesn't intend.

However, once the acceleration occurs, what's the remedy for the driver? Dropping the transmission into neutral will work, applying the brake, or shutting the engine off will all result on a remedy to this.

The problem is largely psychological. For instance, if the driver shifts into neutral when the accelerator is "stuck", the engine will rev and often startles the panicked driver, thinking he/she is accelerating even further out of control. Panicked, not thinking, the driver will then put the car back into drive.

Also, turning off the ignition is sometimes completely ignored as an option.

And then you have people like Sikes who are either retarded, or scammers-- or in his case, both.

prolefeed|3.16.10 @ 5:41PM|#

applying the brake, or shutting the engine off will all result on a remedy to this.

Applying the brake on a sufficiently powerful engine, such as the aforementioned Thunderbird with a V8, WON'T stop the car when enough power is being applied.

Shifting into neutral will stop the power from reaching the wheels, but can destroy the overreving engine.

If you have decent arm and leg strength, best bet is to shut off the engine and jsut deal with the lack of power steering and brakes as you brake and pull over to the roadside.

Tman|3.16.10 @ 5:58PM|#

Shifting into neutral will stop the power from reaching the wheels, but can destroy the overreving engine.

The majority of cars made in the last 6 or so years (maybe more I can't remember the exact beginning date) have a "Rev limiter" .

Limiters prevent damage to an engine by interrupting the power that is distributed to the spark plugs, this prevents the engine from operating above a pre-determined RPM level known as the red-line.

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prolefeed|3.16.10 @ 6:08PM|#

Running a car at the redline, while not necessarily destroying it, will definitely harm it and shorten its remaining operating life.

I suppose the best approach, if you don't have decent arm or leg strength and have a newer car with a rev limiter (which my car doesn't), would be to shift into neutral, quickly brake and steer onto the road shoulder, then shut off the overreving engine to end further damage.

Tman|3.16.10 @ 6:12PM|#

Running a car at the redline, while not necessarily destroying it, will definitely harm it and shorten its remaining operating life.

It depends how long it remains at the red line. If you just redline your engine and then back off you aren't really harming it at all, as this is within the capabilities of the engine. But if you take a 1996 Corolla, put a brick on the accelerator and walk away, sure you will break the engine. I'm just saying that redlining the engine does not automatically mean you are harming it.

prolefeed|3.16.10 @ 7:01PM|#

The damage on an engine goes up rapidly, perhaps exponentially, as you increase the revs and the power applied. That's why stock cars in a 500 mile event have to have new or rebuilt engines after each race.

Even a brief burst at 6500 RPM (the redline on my car) is much harder on an engine than the usual idle to 3500 RPM range I drive it at 99.9% of the time.

Tman|3.16.10 @ 7:23PM|#

A brief burst at 6500 rpm is "much" harder? I disagree. Again, I'm not saying it's good to rev at this level constantly (such as your NASCAR example) but I would question how much harder it really is when done sporadically. Certain higher performance cars need to be revved at higher revs on a regular basis to maintain smooth performance. If you keep a 911 at 3500 its whole life it will burn out sooner than if you don't.

Plus, 3500 max rpm on a 911 is like totally lame.

Scooby|3.16.10 @ 6:57PM|#

Running a car at redline doesn't damage the engine nearly as much as running a car out of control into another car, into a tree or bridge abutment, into a lake, etc.

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Agreed, Scooby. Which is why if you aren't strong enough and experienced enough to drive it without power steering or brakes, best to deal with the redlining damage until you can get the car pulled over and stopped.

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Mo|3.16.10 @ 5:54PM|#

applying the brake, or shutting the engine off will all result on a remedy to this.

As long as one applies the brake with the intent to stop immediately. If the driver stupidly tries to control the speed before trying to stop the car, then the brakes will overheat and fail to stop the car. This will also happen if they pump their brakes like many were taught to do in drivers ed (despite it being the exact wrong thing to do in a car with ABS).

Mo|3.16.10 @ 5:45PM|#

There have been a few cars found with burned out brakes and one guy drove his car to a dealership by occasionally shifting to neutral to prove that it was accelerating.

dfd|3.16.10 @ 6:28PM|#

Uh, links?

The burned out brakes on Sikes' car was caused by riding the brakes lightly over a long period, not consistent with someone who slammed them on to stop a runaway car. His story is bunk.

The fact is fully applying the brakes will stop any Toyota even at full throttle and will do so quickly enough that it will not destroy the brakes.

prolefeed|3.16.10 @ 7:09PM|#

Link? Because I distinctly remember my sudden acceleration incident and being unable to stop the car despite jamming the brakes down as hard as I could. Slowed, but not stopped.

And the V6 in Toyotas is a fucking powerful engine -- 268 hp, 248 pound-feet of torque. I would be surprised if the brakes were good enough to bring that engine to a halt at full throttle.

OMG|3.16.10 @ 7:38PM|#

"We tried to re-create the circumstances surrounding some recent incidents. We took the highest-horsepower Toyota Camry to the test track to see whether the brakes could stop a runaway vehicle -- which they can."

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Mark|3.16.10 @ 8:32PM|#

Then you didn't fully apply the brakes. The brakes in modern automobiles are far more powerful than the engine -- even in the exotic genra.

Car & Driver tested this concept with several different representative vehicles including a Rousch Stage 3 Mustang, an automobile producing a prodigious 540 supercharged horsepower.

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The C&D tests don't prove much. The rout on which the Sikes incident took place had a number of long inclines and descends (which can overheat and diminished the effectiveness of the brakes on most cars; his car finally slowed down when climbing one of the inclines. I've seen a number of stories on this incident; none have quoted Toyota as directly stating that 250 accelerator applications were recorded. The CR article stated plainly that the car recorded 250 brake applications. If Toyota's suggestion that 250 cycles of brake and accelerator applications took place was more than conjecture, they should have emphasized that fact. If the car recorded only brake applications, it's possible that Sikes was just trying to let the brakes cool after they had lost their effectiveness. None of this proves that Sikes was not attempting a scam, but Toyota's carefully worded statements (and the wishful thinking of their apologists) haven't proven that he was.

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Thomas|3.16.10 @ 11:40PM|#

Why is there no quote from the dealership employees who supposedly witnessed this? Did the reporter just trust this one random dude's story?

Joe_D|3.16.10 @ 6:01PM|#

All this makes sense now. And I remembered that I a car I used to drive for work would get a stuck accelerator if you floored it... but you could just lift the pedal with your toe (I don't think a mat was involved).

The only thing I'm not so sure about is advising people to shut the car off... one click too far and the steering locks... that could get bad.

Maybe in addition to the other safety measures, they should write "Don't Panic" in large friendly letters on the steering wheel. Panic seems to be the real killer here.

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Unintended acceleration (uncontrolled as many drivers report) requires the simultaneous failure of two systems -- the throttle control and brake control systems -- that do not share any common components. Not during the same week, or even on the same day, but simultaneously.

That would be like your left headlight burning out at the same exact instant your muffler falls off.

Consider the odds of that happening.

I wonder how many more reports the NHTSA has received regarding Toyotas since the media hype began...

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I would respectfully like to add that it requires the simultaneous failure of THREE systems: The ignition switch as well.

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There only has to be one system failure for catastrophic events related to any unanticipated acceleration to occur, which sits between the driver's seat and the steering wheel.

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I wonder how many more reports the NHTSA has received regarding Toyotas since the media hype began...

Millions I hope, all unfounded hahaha! Fuck You Toyota!

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I am British and worked as a QA Engineer for an Engine Management Systems manufacturer in the past. Toyota has just undertaken a recall extension in Europe, of that started in the US. I concur with most of what you have said. As well as radiated energy being the possible cause of the problem, there are other electrical input errors from external sensors that could generate incorrect signals if they should malfunction. The Design Failure Mode and Effects Analysis should highlight all possible failure modes arising from malfunctioning sensor or extraneously radiated input signals. Toyota is a very professional company and I would well imagine their engineers have gone, and are still going through, all possible system scenarios that could lead to acceleration surges, if indeed this is the reason for the worldwide recall. The drive-by-wire engine management software is key to the problem. It should be robust to illogical inputs and cross-check inputs to ensure they are indeed possible. Noisy inputs generated by EMI or RFI should be filtered by hardware networks before the signal is processed, to minimize their influence on the true electrical input signals and the software processing thereafter. The bottom line is that the fuel injectors are pulsed with a modulated signal from the ECU that varies their opening times, dependent on inputs and the programmed fuel map. This in turn allows more gas into the cylinders with the resulting accelerations/decelerations accordingly. I take my hat off to Toyota for biting the bullet on this very expensive recall and I believe their professionalism and engineering will find the root cause of the problem and an effective countermeasure to resolve it.

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I think the problem has do do with the fact that Toyotas automatically shut down the brake if you PUMP it up and down a few times, while the accelerator is also engaged; there is a youtube video on this. Of course if your vehicle accelerates out of control you will naturally want to PUMP the brake up and down like mad. Then the power brake will automatically shut down. At this point, even if you realize that you can shift to NEUTRAL, it is too late since the car is already at 120MPH and you cannot stop the vehicle! Do NOT pump your brake up and down. Shift to neutral (or reverse on a Prius which has no Neutral) and then FIRMLY hold down the brake without pumping it!
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Funny how none of this happened until the USA got in the car biz by buying GM. Then suddenly there was a problem with Japanese cars which until then had been the most reliable. Hmm.

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We can't totally blame them because every manufactures wants to Put speed on your Ranking so thats why they made a mistake while Your statistic tells the story very clear.

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