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Oral Testimony at the House Judiciary Subcommittee Hearing on the "Preserving a Sharia-Free America Act"
It was notable that the GOP members and witnesses made little effort to actually defend the legislation in question.

Yesterday, I testified against the proposed "Preserving a Sharia-Free America Act" at a hearing before the US House of Representatives Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on the Constitution and Limited Government. This proposed legislation would bar or deport virtually all non-citizen Muslims from the United States by mandating that "Any alien in the United States found to be an adherent of Sharia law by the Secretary of State, Secretary of Homeland Security, or Attorney General shall have any immigration benefit, immigration relief, or visa revoked, be considered inadmissible or deportable, and shall be removed from the United States."
My written testimony is available here. In it, I explained why the proposed law violates the Free Exercise and Free Speech clauses of the First Amendment, and why - if enacted and upheld by the courts - it would set a dangerous precedent, cause great harm to many thousands of innocent people, and damage US national security by giving a propaganda victory to radical Islamist terrorists. The other witnesses' written testimony is available here.
I embed the video of the oral testimony and hearing below. The hearing featured lots of political grandstanding, as is perhaps to be expected. So I can well understand if some readers decide watching the whole thing isn't worth their time. For those interested, my own opening statement runs from about 1:03 to 1:08:
Notably, the GOP members on the Subcommittee and the other three witnesses (all called by the Republicans; the minority party is allowed only one witness, in this case me) mostly didn't even try to defend proposed bill. Instead, they focused on various issues with Sharia law that - even if valid - would not require mass deportation or exclusion of migrants to address.
I won't try to go over the testimony of the other three witnesses in detail. Many of the concerns they raised were hyperbolic, often to the point of ridiculousness. No, there is no real threat that Sharia law is somehow going to take over the US legal system or that of the state of Texas (the focus of much of the testimony). And it is no grave threat to American values if some Muslims plan to establish a private compound where they live in accordance with their religious laws, especially since it turns out the compound in question will not actually enforce Sharia law on residents. Other religious groups do similar things all the time.
On the other hand, there may be some merit to Stephen Gelé's concerns that US courts sometimes enforce judgments issued by Sharia courts in Muslim dictatorships, in cases where they should not, because it would have harmful or illiberal consequences (e.g. - child custody rulings). The solution to such problems, however, is not to deport Muslim immigrants, but to alter the relevant legal rules on comity and conflict of laws. And, in fairness, Gelé's testimony did not recommend deportation and exclusion as a fix. If Texas courts are giving too much credence to some types of foreign court decisions, the GOP-dominated Texas state legislature can easily fix that problem!
Finally, the opposing witnesses and others who fear the supposed spread of Sharia law and the impact of Muslim immigrants often act as if Islam and Sharia are a single, illiberal monolith, irredeemably hostile to liberal values. In reality, as noted in my own testimony, there is widespread internal disagreement among Muslims about what their religion entails, as is also true of Christians and Jews. Most Muslim immigrants in the US are not trying to impose Sharia on non-Muslims, or establish some kind of Islamic theocracy. Indeed, many are themselves refugees from the oppression of radical Islamist dictatorships, such as those in Iran and Afghanistan.
My Cato Institute colleague Mustafa Akyol - a prominent expert on Islamic political thought - makes some additional relevant points on the diversity of Muslim thought in a recent article.
Some Muslims do indeed have awful, reprehensible beliefs on various issues. But there are lots of ways to address any danger that poses, without resorting to censorship, discrimination on the basis of religion, mass deportation, and other unconstitutional and repressive policies. The most obvious solution is to simply enforce the First Amendment's prohibitions on the establishment of religion, and persecution and discrimination on the basis of religious belief.
This was the third time I have testified in Congress. The other two times were at the invitation of Senate Republicans (see here and here). The issues at the three hearings were very different. But in each case, I tried to defend limits on government power that are essential to protecting individual rights to life, liberty, and property. I doubt my testimony had any great impact. But perhaps it made a small difference at the margin.
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The bill has two main parts:
1. Adherents to Sharia law may not enter the United States.
2. Adherents to Sharia law in the United States must be removed with no right to judicial review.
In the absence of a statutory definition I would read "adherent to Sharia law" to mean more or less "practicing Muslim". The determination of adherence is up to the executive branch and is not subject to judicial review. So who knows what Noem, Bondi, and Rubio would say. Remember the claim that Obama was a Muslim by birth?
The prohibition on entry seems to be within the power of Congress. Mandatory removal of Muslims has constitutional problems like Trump's attempts to remove critics of Israel. Judges will ignore the jurisdiction-stripping language and grant habeas on constitutional grounds.
I don’t see this as different from the ban on “NAZIs” still imposed on German and Swiss citizens entering the US.
As I understand it, it was a piece of paper where they have to check off that they are not members of Hitler Nazi party, and sign it.
What’s wrong with having to sign a piece of paper saying you recognize a United States constitution and the law the United States as supreme? Those who don’t sign it go home…
This exaggerates its reach a bit. It only applies to aliens. It basically treats adhering to Sharia law the same way immigration law currently treats adhering to communism or other totalitarian ideologies.
Yesterday I asked this, and I'll ask it again today: If you have an ideology that would constitutionally be permissible as a basis for denying immigration benefits if secular, how does calling it religious change things?
"I'm not a Nazi! I'm a member of the Church of Our Savior, Adolf Hitler!" Does that really work?
I believe the exclusion of communists only covers formal party membership, not general beliefs.
It also applied to aliens who advocate the doctrines of world communism or any other form of totalitarianism.
Isn't that definition synonymous with "Democrat" in today's lexicon?
Yes, it only applies to aliens. I must have dropped that part in editing.
You have a self-serving and completely inaccurate reading of "adherent to Sharia law." The only real question is does this fictional finding come from Trump Derangement Syndrome or are you another paid commenter in the employ of the CCP or a Biden funded immigrant NGO?
The last time I criticized the vagueness of this deportation law, I was informed that I was (among other things) a supporter of wife-beating. Is that the quality of discourse we're going to get on this legal blog?
What, exactly, does it take "to be an adherent of Sharia law"?
Does it mean seeking to impose Islamic precepts on America by vigilante violence? I'm sure there are some people who believe in such things, and the answer is to kick these violent people out of the country - but such conduct is already illegal - that is, assault, murder and terrorism for theocratic reasons (or for any other reason) is already a crime, independently of this bill.
Perhaps the law targets *advocates* of theocratic violence. If so, it's the Smith Act all over again, and the Supreme Court has already given its views of the dangers of too-sweeping legislation against mere advocacy. But direct incitement to violence can still be punished, whether a citizen or alien does it.
But given the vagueness of the term, the bill could be seen to prohibit even abstract advocacy of a Muslim theocratic state, even if the theocracy is to be established by a U. S. constitutional amendment.
Perhaps the law could even be held to prohibit people from setting up systems of private arbitration, even if all parties voluntarily agree that the arbitratory will use Islamic principles.
If you want to pass a new law, you need start by making clear what the law does and doesn't do - if you skip that part, you're only going to be convincing to those who are persuaded by slogans and table-pounding rhetoric.
[update] I just noted a reference to another part of the bill, which I then looked up.
It says "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, any determination made by the aforementioned Department heads under this Act shall be final and shall not be subject to review by any court."
Literally interpreted, this suspends the writ of habeas corpus, in violation of the Constitution.
In immigration cases, based on the precedents, habeas corpus doesn't mean the courts can re-examine *every* aspect of an administrative ruling in an immigration case, but it at least allows *some* review. If there's to be no judicial review at all, I don't see how that's compatible with the right to habeas corpus.
I appreciate your careful and clear discussion. And I agree with your points so don’t have anything on the merits to add. However, I advise you don’t ever read the open threads if you think this blog still has anything like a reasonable level of discourse among the comments.
No, this time you're supporting grooming gangs like those in the UK and an expansion of the fraud from Minneapolis. I'd mention the rabid anti-America sentiment of places like Dearborn but Berkeley is enough of a homegrown counterpoint that it's worth worrying about but hardly unique.
Rape, sexual abuse and fraud are already illegal independently of this bill.
Rape, sexual abuse and fraud are already illegal
Except for friends of J****** E*****, of course.
Duplication
Sharia enables all three. You left that out.
A women's testimony is half the value of a man's under Sharia. Sharia allows fraud, deception, and theft from non-believers. The historical record of sexual abuse originating in Sharia fills volumes.
Sexual abuse will remain a crime whether this bill is passed or not - the bill, of course, will probably be invoked by the government to designate people who have *not* committed crimes as sharia-loving sexists, and deport them. If that's what you want, the bill gives you a chance to fulfill your wishes.
Of course, if the government can single people out for punishment based on their opinions, then of course it can single out "Islamophobes" who *oppose* sharia. To kind of balance things out, you know.
An adherent to Sharia law seeks to guide their personal life, moral conduct, religious practices, and ethical decisions according to Sharia.
By the way, Sharia requires a husband to beat his wife, there is no other definition of "physical discipline" called for in Qur'an 4:34
Does current American law permit husbands to beat their wives? Of course not!
To justify this bill, you have to do more than argue eloquently against the evils of wife-beating.
Here is the bill sponsor's opinon: https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-leads-hearing-highlighting-threat-sharia-law-united-states.
Mr. Roy is from Texas. Politico recently reported
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/26/republicans-go-all-in-on-sharia-law-attacks-ahead-of-texas-primary-00745647
"Most Muslim immigrants in the US are not trying to impose Sharia on non-Muslims, or establish some kind of Islamic theocracy."
Most of the liquid in the swimming pool isn't piss. What's your point?
Most Moslems are not terrorists either. As you say, not a good argument. We do not want any Moslem terrorists.
Somin loses me when he quotes Washington and Jefferson, and when he compares Sharia law to Jewish Talmudic law and Catholic canon law. No, these are not comparable. The Talmudic and canon laws only govern obscure religious practices that only matter to practitioners of those religions. Sharia law is intended to apply to everyone, and control your entire life.
Roger doesn't know anything about Judaism other than that he hates the people who practice it.
Divorce is an obscure religious practice?
Jews can still get a civil divorce, regardless of what the rabbi says. Outside of Israel, anyway.
At 1:43:00, Somin is asked about many or most US Moslems having an assortment of anti-American views. Somin has no answer, except to say that he would like to see the details of the poll.
Roger, how do you defend the fact that many or most right-wingers are racists who reject the fundamental tenets of our Constitution?
The Trump-haters complain a lot, but Trump firmly accepts everything in the Constitution.
Dude what? Trump does not give a rat's ass what is in the Constitution. 14A1S, Emolument's clause, appointment's clause, VP's role in counting EC votes, Congressional lack of authority to discard EC votes, the concept that the person who lost the election does not remain in power, the Take Care clause (x1000).
I would like to know who paid for Somin's transportation, lodging, and food on this trip, the CCP or a pro-Immigrant NGO?
It was almost certainly Somin himself. He might have been able to expense some of it from his University. Why does it matter?
I'm not even sure that this bill is even intended to pass - especially if they're not bothering to defend it that much. It feels profoundly unserious, like they're just throwing some red meat to the base who don't know what "Sharia law" actually means.
They do that a lot, to be sure.
"... political grandstanding, as is perhaps to be expected." That's putting way too kindly, Ilya.
Muslims have a wide range of beliefs. Islam traditionally encouraged diversity through multiple competing schools of interpretation. We are talking about over two billion people.
"Shariah" ultimately means "straight path." It reminds me of how early Christians followed "The Way."
It is a violation of the First Amendment to single out Muslims in this way. There should be a non-sectarian approach, including when determining which law a court must follow.
I disagree that there is an immigration power exception to the religious liberty clauses of the First Amendment. The bill, to be clear, does not only apply to entry.
"Any alien in the United States found to be an adherent of Sharia law by the Secretary of State, Secretary of Homeland Security, or Attorney General shall have any immigration benefit, immigration relief, or visa revoked, be considered inadmissible or deportable, and shall be removed from the United States."
First, "alien" is an out-of-date term. I put that aside.
This targeting of immigrants, in this country, part of our community, for their religious beliefs, is not only bigotry. It is a violation of the First Amendment.
I don't think a law that bars "admission" into this country if you don't believe in the Trinity is constitutional. But this goes much further.
I agree with Professor Somin that this would be a terrible thing to do, and I also agree that deporting current legal residents for this reason would be unconstitutional.
My sole quibble is that for aliens outside the US, the decision-making power given to the political branches is, as in other matters of war and foreign policy, plenary and unreviewable. Courts can no more review a decision whether or not to admit foreigners than it can whether or not to declare war. Trump v. Hawaii supports this even when motivations are religious in nature. Past cases upholding refusals to admit e.g. communists, homosexuals, and Nazis also support it.
So while I agree that the portion of the law addressing foreigners outside US territory is unwise, impolitic, and completely inconsistent with American values and America’s traditions of fairness and hospitality, I am constrained to conclude that it would not be unconstitutional.