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Thoughts on the Capture of Maduro and Trump's Attack on Venezuela
Maduro is a brutal dictator who is getting what he deserves. But Trump's actions are still illegal, because lacking proper congressional authorization. Whether they result in a beneficial regime change in Venezuela remains to be seen.

Last night, US forces launched strikes on Venezuela and seized that country's dictator Nicolas Maduro, bringing him back to the US to face charges for drug smuggling. Maduro is getting what he deserves, even if for the wrong reasons. But the US attack is illegal, and it is far from clear whether it will really lead to a beneficial regime change in Venezuela.
I shed no tears for Maduro, who is a brutally oppressive dictator and not the legitimate ruler of his country (given his falsification of the 2024 election results). His real crime is not drug smuggling or "narco-terrorism" but repression and murder on a massive scale, creating the biggest refugee crisis in the history of the Western Hemisphere. The recent history of Venezuela is an abject lesson in the perils of "democratic socialism." That sort of regime leads to poverty and massive human rights violations - and doesn't stay democratic for long.
If Maduro ends up spending the rest of his life in a US prison, it will be just punishment for his many crimes, though drug smuggling is not what he really deserves to be punished for. The US War on Drugs is itself deeply unjust and turning it into a real war makes it worse.
But, the evils of Maduro notwithstanding, the US attack is still illegal, because lacking proper congressional authorization. I have long argued (most recently here) that the initiation of any large-scale military action requires congressional authorization, and this case surely fits the bill. Extensive air strikes combined with insertion of ground forces to seize a national leader is more than just some minor action that the president can take on his own authority. That's even more true if Trump really plans to have the US "run" Venezuela until a new government can be established. Doing that would likely require a much larger US military intervention.
Defenders of the legality of Trump's actions cite the 1989 invasion of Panama, which was undertaken in large part for the purpose of apprehending Panamian dictator Manuel Noriega; like Maduro, Noriega was charged with smuggling illegal drugs into the US. But the 1989 Panama precedent does not actually justify Trump's actions. On December 15, 1989 (five days before the US invasion), Noriega foolishly announced that Panama and the US were in a "state of war," thereby creating conflict between the two countries that did not exist in the Venezuela case. In addition, Panamanian forces had killed or wounded two US military personnel in the Panama Canal area, and detained other American citizens. Unlike Noriega in 1989, the Venezuelan regime did not declare war on the US or otherwise initiate a military conflict. Thus, congressional authorization is needed to make any US military intervention constitutional.
Jack Goldsmith notes that Trump's action could also be defended by analogy to various other US military actions undertaken without congressional authorization. I would argue that these previous actions were either undertaken in response to actual attacks or declarations of war (as with Panama in 1989), were too small-scale to qualify as wars (as with, e.g., various quick air strikes), or were themselves illegal. Past illegal actions don't justify future ones. And, for those keeping score, I said much the same thing about various illegal unauthorized uses of force under Democratic presidents, as with Barack Obama's 2011 Libya intervention. Goldsmith himself recognizes that such precedents don't actually make Trump's actions legal; they only make it likely he will get away with the illegality.
Trump is also still not justified in invoking the Alien Enemies Act to detain and deport Venezuelans without due process. There is still is no declared war, or "invasion" or "predatory incursion" on US territory (prerequisites for invoking the act). For a detailed discussion of why illegal migration and drug smuggling do not qualify as "invasion," see my article "Immigration is Not Invasion." I will soon post an updated version that takes account of recent events.
Similarly, Trump's strikes against supposed drug boats in the Carribean are also still illegal and criminal. Don't just take my word on the reasons for their illegality. Take that of John Yoo, prominent conservative legal scholar, and leading advocate of sweeping executive power over national security issues. It is perversely ironic that Trump decided to apprehend Maduro and give him due process, even as he just simply murders supposed low-level drug runners out of hand.
Whether the attack will result in a beneficial regime change in Venezuela remains to be seen. So far, the socialist dictatorship remains in power, led by Maduro's vice president and other minions. At least for the moment, they still control the military and security services. Whether Trump is willing to launch the kind of ground invasion needed to remove them remains to be seen. But perhaps the regime will yet collapse of its own accord (e.g. - maybe the military will fracture). We shall see.
Ideally, the US should help the Venezuelan opposition - led by Edmundo Gonzalez (the real winner of the 2024 election) and Nobel Prize winner Maria Corina Machado - take power. But it is far from clear that Trump has any intention of doing that. He seems to have already ruled out Machado.
If Trump's actions here do ultimately result in beneficial regime change, it will be a rare of case of one of his illegal actions accomplishing a great good. But it could easily end up being an illegal action that leaves Venezuela and the world no better off than before, with the arguable exception of giving Maduro his just deserts for the wrong reasons.
UPDATE: The fact that the US and many other nations (rightly) do not recognize Maduro as the legitimate president of Venezuela may affect whether he is entitled to any kind of legal immunity as a head of state. I think he should not have immunity, and I believe head of state immunity is, in any event, unjust, much like sovereign immunity more generally. At the very least, mass-murdering dictators like Maduro and Vladimir Putin should not have any kind of immunity. But even if Maduro isn't entitled to immunity, that still does not mean that Trump's military intervention is legal. The problem with it is not violation of head-of-state immunity, but violation of the US Constitution's separation of powers.
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"Maduro is a brutal dictator who is getting what he deserves."
I don't know what exactly he "deserves," but if what happened was "illegal," on some level, is that even right?
Anyway, that isn't what I personally would lead with. That he "deserves" it. Many people aren't legal sticklers. Once they read that, they will immediately say that what happened was just.
That's a bad thing to lead with, including because the means will likely cause a lot of harm to ordinary Venezuelans. There are many horrible world leaders out there. This is not how to deal with them.
Darth Sidius: "Begin landing your troops."
Newt Gunray: "My Lord, is that...legal?"
Darth Sidius: "I will make it legal."
The biggest question is if an arrest warrant can be issued for a foreign national.
If you were trying to be sarcastic, sorry but I'm not getting it, So assuming you were being serious, that's not a question at all. Arrest warrants for foreign nationals are issued all the time. Consider all the arrest warrants for illegal immigrants (who are, after all, still nationals of whatever country they came from). Or consider the arrest warrants routinely issued for Columbian drug lords, overseas tax cheats, anyone accused of war crimes anywhere and dozens of other examples.
Acting on those arrest warrants either requires the subject to be on the arresting country's soil or for the arresting country to go through extradition proceedings with whatever country the subject is on at the moment. But the validity of the warrant is entirely independent of the nationality of the subject.
Or to kidnap the person. The Supreme Court held in United States v. Alvarez-Machain, 504 U.S. 655 (1992) that if the U.S. grabs the person in violation of the extradition treaty, the person is still subject to proseecution in the U.S. (That was a civilian rather than military kidnapping, to be clear, but nothing about Alvarez-Machain suggests that this distinction would matter.)
(I agree with your response to Dr. Ed's bizarre question, though.)
'This is not how to deal with them.'
Actions by people and government are as arbitrary as the law is. A thin wrapping said to be part of civilization at best describes law. Law is the excuse for both good government and bad government.
At the root of civilization is not law, but people being supportive of each other.
Yeah all the talk about laws kind of reminds me of when people discuss "the rules of war." There are no rules of war. Whoever wins the war gets to decide whether "rules" were violated by the loser and deal with them how they see fit.
You watch those nature documentaries on the cable? You see the one about lions? You got this lion. He's the king of the jungle, huge mane out to here. He's laying under a tree, in the middle of Africa. He's so big, it's so hot. He doesn't want to move. Now the little lions come, they start messing with him. Biting his tail, biting his ears. He doesn't do anything. The lioness, she starts messing with him. Coming over, making trouble. Still nothing. Now the other animals, they notice this. They start to move in. The jackals; hyenas. They're barking at him, laughing at him. They nip his toes, and eat the food that's in his domain. They do this, then they get closer and closer, bolder and bolder. Till one day, that lion gets up and tears the sh*t out of everybody. Runs like the wind, eats everything in his path. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is.
Riva, do you really want the United States to follow the law of the jungle?
Do petty narco-terrorist states and other international bad actors respect any other "law"?
And as an aside, the US is observing the law. The petty narco-terrorist had been indicted and is now going to face trial.
Should we take that reply to my question as a yes or a no? It seems ambiguous.
China is the HUGE LOSER in Maduro's arrest. Just hours before the Maduro arrest, a high-level Chinese delegation—led by Qiu Xiaoqi, Xi Jinping's Special Envoy for Latin American and Caribbean Affairs, and Ambassador Lan Hu—met with Maduro in Caracas. They publicly expressed "strong support" for his regime and hinted at assisting Venezuela in evading U.S. sanctions, framing the relationship as a "brotherhood" in defense of a multipolar world order. Maduro's capture occurred literally "under their noses," and leaves Xi Jinping and China with egg on their face as impotent allies.
Now that's an interesting geopolitical angle on the story. Do you have a source?
https://caliber.az/en/post/372112
So… to be clear: your "source" is a short blurb in an Azerbaijan-based website that cites as its source a Russian Telegram channel.
I’m wondering if the Chinese were INTENDED TO witness this as a demonstration of just how good the U.S. military is — how much better than their numerically superior military is.
Much as the leveling of Dresden, Germany was partly a warning to Stalin, was this a warning to theCCP about what a U.S.—trained Taiwan Army could do. And Chinese ADA is based on the Soviet systems that didn’t stop a single American aircraft.
Think Don the Don reminding the ChiComs that he’s given all that stuff to Taiwan (and Japan, ROK, Australia, etc.) and it’d be a good idea to leave Taiwan alone.
The bombing of Dresden was (in part) a favor to Stalin, not a "warning" to him.
"but if what happened was "illegal," on some level, is that even right?"
A fascinating question. Leaving aside the "illegal" issue, can something simultaneously be both "illegal" and "right"?
Harriet Tubman, for example, undoubtedly engaged in many illegal actions. She escaped as a slave herself, then helped many other slaves escape. Under the law at the time, this was undoubtedly illegal. But was it "right"? I will say that in my opinion, it was undoubtedly "right." Perhaps you can argue differently.
Let's take the issue of Mr. Maduro. He was under several different indictments for crimes in the United States. Was it "right" for the United States to seize him and submit him to justice? Or if laws were broken in brining Mr. Maduro to justice, does it automatically make it "not right"?
Perhaps you may argue these are different situtations. Let's take the case of Mr. Bin Laden. US forces invaded Pakistan and killed (some may say murdered) Mr. Bin Laden. That undoubtedly broke many Pakistani laws, and thus would be illegal. Was that "right"?
Perhaps however, perhaps...sometimes what is "legal" and what is "right" are not necessarily the same. Sometimes the "law" can be used to hide people from justice.
Maduro is being charged with possession of machine guns…I guess they don’t have the 2A in Venezuela?? 😉
I assume it's constructive possession, where one of Maduro's underlings actually carried a machine gun in the US, but he shares criminal liability as part of the broader conspiracy. The US should not have jurisdiction over whether a foreign citizen carried a machine gun outside US territory.
Quoting the indictment:
The machine guns were possessed outside of the United States.
Did any come ashore with the drugs?
What shore? Venezuela is not shipping anything to the United States.
Armchair - Yes Maduro is under indictment in SDNY
Yet zero chance of conviction - As evident from the leftist commentators here, and with the election of the new NYC mayor, there are far too many irrational and delusional leftists and communists in the jury pool which makes it impossible to obtain a conviction.
Maybe Mayor Mamdani will use the NYPD to break Maduro out of federal custody and give him a senior job in the NYC government.
Joe, that may be the intent.
This isn’t the ‘90s anymore—- assuming that the U.S. both has and presents a compelling case that Joe Sixpack can comprehend, it will put juror bias on the public agenda.
NYC is not the only choice of venue, Maine is the furthest away but SDNY is close. The USS Iwo Jima’s home port is Norfolk VA, and I’d go with that ship being the first US soil he set foot onto.i
"Yet zero chance of conviction"
Disagree. While they may dislike Trump, they ALSO dislike Maduro.
Armchair, you can’t go down that path without concluding that the Nuremberg trials were themselves illegal. And then what?
I prefer the felony arrest approach, e.g. Waco.
Pretty sure he led with that in an attempt — however unlikely to be successful — to preempt the inevitable "Why are you defending Maduro?" and "You're just saying this because you love Maduro" MAGA rejoinders.
But it was a "kinetic military action", therefore no permission was needed.
Oh, wait.. that was Obama. Since history began last January we won't mention anything like that.
Whatabout whatabout whatabout.
Tu quoque is a logical fallacy when employed as such, but nevertheless it's good way to highlight double (at least) standards and hypocrisy.
"Tu quoque" is where Bob advances an argument, and Ted claims that Bob's conclusion is false because Bob is a bad man. Obviously a fallacy, because bad men are capable of advancing valid arguments. (Sometimes that's WHY they're called "bad", ironically!)
But "whataboutism!" isn't even a classical fallacy like tu quoque. It's really just the complaint of people who hate having their accusations put in context.
"Trump's shit stinks!"
"Everybody's shit stinks, that's what shit does."
"Whataboutism!"
That's ad hominem.
Tu quoque is a subset of whattaboutism, limited to the about relating to the speaker's actions.
It's fallacious because it's irrelevant to the argument whether some other party did something similar.
Your example is not whattaboutism, as it's not specifying some other party with stinky shit.
The generalization is not a fallacious argument, if true. Trying to get there with a single anecdote puts you back in whattabout land.
I will grant that Brett's first example (Bob and Ted) was an ad hominem, not a tu quoque. You are all wrong, however, to claim that tu quoque is a logical fallacy. It is not. It is a rhetorical device to attack the credibility of an opponent's argument by showing that even the opponent him/herself does not believe in the argument. Because it touches on the opponent's credibility, it has some similarity to the ad hominem fallacy but it is not a logical fallacy directly. In strict matters of logic, it's an orthogonal problem.
Brett's second example (shit stinks) is an example of whataboutism with or without your clarification. It's also a cogent example of why whataboutism can be a logical fallacy depending on what the original claim was trying to say. But it's also true that sometimes the accusation of whataboutism is the logical fallacy. For example:
- Trump's shit stinks (where the focus is on shit being stinky and Trump's shit only used as an example).
- Obama's shit stank, too.
Good example of whataboutism since it fails to even address much less rebut the original claim of shit stinkiness.
- Trump's (and only Trump's) shit stinks.
- Obama's shit stank, too.
Not a valid example of whataboutism since it rebuts the claim that Trump's shit is uniquely stinky.
Fair enough, that was ad hominem.
"Good example of whataboutism since it fails to even address much less rebut the original claim of shit stinkiness."
Indeed, it underscores and agrees with the original claim of shit stinkiness, and thus isn't a fallacy either. The only reason for objecting to somebody producing additional examples of shit stinking is that you're actually in the SECOND situation:
"Trump's (and only Trump's) shit stinks."
You'll notice that cries of "whataboutism" are almost exclusively deployed in political arguments, where the comparative element, even if unstated, is implicit. Your only reason for CARING if Trump's shit stinks, is the implied existence of a non-stinking alternative.
No, that's wrong. The reason to object is because (as I just mentioned above) it's irrelevant. A red herring, to use the vernacular.
Imagine that I sue you because you t-boned my car and damaged it; we go to trial. I give my opening statement about what the evidence will show you did. If then you stood up and said, "Members of the jury, last year a guy named Barack t-boned a car and damaged it. Thank you." it would be objected to (and the objection would be sustained, and everyone would recognize how stupid your opening statement was). The objection would not be because I was trying to prove that you were the only person who ever t-boned a car. The objection would be that your statement is utterly unrelated to the issue.
(Trump t-boned Venezuela. Whether Barack t-boned Libya doesn't respond to that.)
Whataboutism is a member of the species ignoratio elenchi, the fallacy of irrelevance. (The ad hominem is a subspecies.) If the proposition "Donald Trump did a bath thing" is raised, neither "Barack Obama also did a bad thing" nor "You're a hypocrite" is relevant to the truth or falsity of the proposition let alone does anything to refute it.
I agree that it can be irrelevant where the subjective assessment of badness (or stinkiness) is universally accepted. Where the argument actually is "Trump did a thing and I think it's bad", it is entirely relevant to counter that "Obama did the same bad thing and you said then that it was good".
*bad thing, not "bath thing," whatever that bizarre autocorrect could possibly have meant.
It does highlight those things, but it's still a useless argument as to whether something is *right* or not. It's more concerned with political point scoring, which is poisonous to useful discussions.
Also, I wasn't around here when Obama ordered the strikes on Libya. But it's my understanding that plenty of people criticised that decision at the time. So even this charge of hypocrisy is suspect to me.
Qaddafi funded the Lockerbie bombing…he’s actually the leader that we should have killed.
But Maduro was the one who planted the bomb!
You would give Osama Bin Laden a pass!! You are a pussy!!!
I thought law was about precedent ? Follow what was decided before to justify one's actions. Citations support the argument.
"precedent precedent precedent"
Precedent only has force if it's legal.
You could maybe talk about a moral or societal precedent, but that can get fraught quite fast.
Precedent is whataboutism.
Merry Christmas Us! Now we own Venezuela.
Under you broke it, you bought it?
No, Iraq had oil that was easily accessible and could have prevented the 2008 Global Financial Crisis. Venezuela’s oil is worthless at these prices.
Strangely, The post does not mention the War Powers Act. Perhaps, Professor Somin believes the War Powers Act was an unconstitutional delegation of Congress' war-making power to the Presidency. In any event, you would think that some preliminary thoughts on the "arrest" of Maduro would discuss the War Powers Act, before concluding that the action was illegal.
From the WPR (commonly misnamed as WPA) perspective, this is also illegal.
Except we aren’t at war…that’s why Delta Force was used and not the Green Berets. Green Berets are the operators that embed with allies and force multiply in order to achieve American objectives.
"Jack Goldsmith notes that Trump's action could also be defended by analogy to various other US military actions undertaken without congressional authorization. I would argue that these previous actions were either undertaken in response to actual attacks or declarations of war (as with Panama in 1989), were too small-scale to qualify as wars (as with, e.g., various quick air strikes), or were themselves illegal."
It would have been a lot more persuasive if you'd just left it at "Past illegal actions don't justify future ones.", instead of trying to justify the prior illegal actions in order to make Trump's more clearly worse.
Now that we will 'run' VEN (whatever the hell that means) for a short while, it should be significantly easier to ship VEN illegal aliens home. The illegals need to go home now. The dictator was 'Noriega'ed'.
It's been amusing watching you hayseeds completely reboot your nation building/foreign intervention stances in the span of 12 hours.
And it looks like the VP is now the president just like Maduro was Chavez’ VP. I don’t think this even amounts to regime change…no regime change then no nation building quagmire. Oh, and Venezuelan oil is worthless in this global oil market and America has been energy dominant since 2022 anyway.
Who said anything about 'regime change'?
Also, what many don't know is that the US has a lot of refineries geared towards processing heavy, outdated crude like Venezuela's. They'd love to have Venezuela's crude and I'm sure that was explained to Trump a year ago.
So we'll go from being a net exporter to a net importer rapidly. I'll be moth-balling rigs across Montana and the Permian basin. But what does that matter? At least we get to menace brown people.
We’ve been energy dominant since 2022. Oil is on the long slow decline to zero price. Natural gas is now the most important fossil fuel and we are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas and have invested hundreds of billions of dollars into LNG export infrastructure.
I hate to burst your bubble, Sam. But our futures trading floors are all about China and EV and green. They're the future that the rest of the world wants. Our coal and LNG will be zero in twenty years. And China will be the dominant power...we'll be bowing to them for favors. We're trying to trade out our gas fields for solar and wind, but the Trump assault on them make it near impossible. All we can do now is watch it happen.
Nope, Trump is exporting our LNG to China…dumbest thing ever to help China grow their economy with our cheap natural gas. Biden made us energy dominant and Trump is squandering it by playing right into Xi’s hands.
Our traders have China disengaging from LNG imports in 7 years. BP and Connoco down the street are doing the same thing. They're (China) already harnessing the sun and wind for 15% of their national power. In 2033 it will be 50%. By 2040 it will be 100%. This is not projection...it is happening. And the rest of the world wants this free energy as well. So, yeah, try to flog coal and heavy Venezuelan crude. It's gonna work out great
And I'm an oil executive who's interest is in perpetuating fossil fuels. And brother, it ain't gonna happen.
LNG is happening…but China isn’t making the same mistakes we made with the oil market.
LNG is happening right now, and I'm loving it. But do you really wanna know how that's gonna work out in the next ten years?
Probably a bunch of LNG bankruptcies in a few years and then China will get low cost LNG. I know a pipeline company wisely cancelled their project to focus on moving molecules in America.
And what will you be driving on? It’s the heavy crude that has asphalt in it. Texas sweet is great for gasoline but not much else.
And how about the petrochemicals, stuff the chips are made out of and all the other fun stuff the starts with crude oil?
And what will you be driving on? It’s the heavy crude that has asphalt in it. Texas sweet is great for gasoline but not much else.
Have you noticed me doing that? Maybe you'd better take another look at my remarks.
I won't weep for Maduro, but it remains the case that the power to declare wars is given to Congress, not the President. So, yes, this was unconstitutional.
You know, one of the things I liked about Trump in his first term was that he wasn't running around attacking people with the US military. Oh, well, so much for that.
I'll grant you've expressed some reservations today, Brett. But vague displeasure is about as far as you've gone. However, this nation building is just a day old. Let's see how it plays out.
Nope, same regime is still in charge. Trump is in pre dementia and so I wouldn’t even bother paying attention to what he says. So far we executed a legitimate law enforcement operation and Trump’s threatening of more boots on the ground makes perfect sense from a maximizing leverage over the illegal regime both Biden and Trump want to see gone in favor of free and fair elections in Venezuela.
The big question is which of trump's buddies will get venezuela's oil market? Better start sucking up now for a piece of that prize.
Maybe trump’s ‘riviera of the middle east’ development plan for gaza can be reused to make venezuela into the ‘riviera of south america’. Trump's buddies can get in on that action too.
It won't be easy to argue (on moral grounds) that china shouldn't take taiwan or that russia shouldn't take ukraine after the us has taken venezuela.
But the trump administration wasn't making those arguments anyway, so no real change there.
"It won't be easy to argue (on moral grounds) that china shouldn't take taiwan or that russia shouldn't take ukraine after the us has taken venezuela."
Cheering crowds in Venezuela argue otherwise.
No, a democracy unseating a dictator is not morally equivalent to a dictator overthrowing a democracy.
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-confused-why-venezuelans-cheering-downfall-of-nice-warm-collectivism
You wept for Qaddafi…the guy that actually funded terrorism and murdered Americans.
Yes, the Bee is priceless!
Trump has just declared he is in charge of China and Russia!! I love winning!!! Take that Condi Rice!! Lolololololololol!!!
The cheering crowds in venezuela aren't the ones that are likely to take taiwan or ukraine.
The ones likely to take Taiwan or Ukraine don't care about the cheering crowds, they know damned well that they're international criminals, and don't care.
I am shocked, shocked, it took Ilya over three hours to get this out.
"Don't just take my word on the reasons for their illegality."
Don't worry, I won't.
We have a president who claims that he has “the right to do anything I want to do. I’m the president of the United States.”
And a Vice-President who says “There’s no law, there's just power.”
Seems like discussion over whether this is legal or not is moot at this point. The administration doesn't give a shit about the law, and there's a Greek Chorus of "lawyers" who are egging them on.
Biden supported Maduro’s capture…Trump is going by the letter of the law so far.
That is an absurd statement.
Just like in Yemen we got lucky no soldiers died…so the risk wasn’t worth the reward but now that it’s over and we only took some injuries and didn’t lose a $100 million jet into the Red Sea guess it’s worth it?? None of these foreign interventions have worked out for Americans except Ukraine and Libya because Qaddafi was a terrorist that had to be eliminated.
What do you know, Ilya stands with the murderous narco-terrorist surprising absolutely nobody.
I'm sure Venezuela was just days away from his glorious left-libertarian/communist utopia.
Maduro and others were indicted in the Southern District of New York during the first Trump administration -- more than five years ago. https://thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2026/01/maduro_moros_et_al_superseding_indictment_sdny_redacted_0.pdf I wonder if Maduro will move the District Court to dismiss the indictment based on the denial of his Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial. Per Barker v. Wingo, 407 U.S. 514, 530 (1972), four factors are relevant:
Justice Powell there wrote for a unanimous Court, "We regard none of the four factors identified above as either a necessary or sufficient condition to the finding of a deprivation of the right of speedy trial. Rather, they are related factors, and must be considered together with such other circumstances as may be relevant." Id., at 533.
Unwarranted delay between indictment and arrest of the accused can result in a dismissal under Sixth Amendment grounds. Doggett v. United States, 505 U.S. 647 (1992). As to the length of the delay, the Doggett Court observed that "Depending on the nature of the charges, the lower courts have generally found postaccusation delay "presumptively prejudicial" at least as it approaches one year." Id., at 652 n.1. Maduro accordingly should be entitled to a hearing if he seeks one.
As to the reason for the delay, officials from both the Trump and Biden administrations will need to explain why Maduro was not arrested sooner after being indicted.
If Maduro was unaware of the indictment prior to being arrested, (and if he now makes a speedy trial demand,) the third Barker v. Wingo should not work to his disadvantage. Compare, Doggett at 653-654.
It accordingly appears that resolution of a motion to dismiss would turn on application of the second and fourth Barker v. Wingo factors -- the reason for the delay of more than five years and whether the accused has been prejudiced by the delay.
I think the bigger issue is why doesn’t Trump just declare himself the leader of China and solve all of the problems??? Why stop at Venezuela and Gaza?? You know what, I declare myself the leader of China!! China, please send me the plane to take me to my palace! 😉
Just as predicted in today's Open Thread post, Ilya's TDS takes over and he rants in support of a drug lord under indictment in the United States with a $50 million reward for detainment on his head.
The professor refuses to recognize Maduro as a drug lord and the leader the Cartel de los Soles in this Trump Derangement Syndrome rant. Somin's detachment from reality is complete.
Ilya continues to disgrace himself, George Mason, and the United States of America.
Bootlickers always think "But the victim is bad" is a defense to charges that the government did something wrong.
Well, not always; when the victim is one of them — a la the J6ers, or Trump himself — they do get upset, because they think the law is only to harm the people they don't like.
Congress has completely abrogated this warmaking power to the executive branch. Unless and until Cogress acts to take that power back, presidents can do whatever they want.
Hat tip: that is not going to happen any time soon.
Um, in fairness, I would like to point out that Maduro actually invited Trump to come and get him.
An invitation that Trump graciously accepted and was even kind enough to wait after the holidays.
Now we control Venezuela!! Don’t worry, controlling Afghanistan only cost us $2 trillion! 😉
Yes!
Big Booty Latinas for everybody!
I hope we do let the opposition take over. Probably won't kiss Trump's ass enough.
The problem with ridiculous people like Ilya is that they live in a fantasy land.
It isn't 1800 where we need unlimited immigration (and it's hard to get here and a hard struggle to survive) and it doesn't take months to move troops around and conduct war.
The constitution is not a suicide pact. A president has an opportunity for a surgical operation that would require massive war if he made the intentions clear to Congress for a vote giving the enemy fair warning is an absurd antiquated premise. Congress has expressed.
The President had a clear opportunity to protect the security of America in an operation that would be spoiled by congressional notice. He has inherit authority to act as such. Especially when in support of a legitimatey elected government!
Biden supported arresting Maduro…but the notion Maduro posed a threat anyone in America is laughable. I’m happy this operation was successful but it wasn’t worth the risk even though these guys sign up specifically for this type of action.
"Biden supported arresting Maduro…but the notion Maduro posed a threat anyone in America is laughable. I’m happy this operation was successful but it wasn’t worth the risk even though these guys sign up specifically for this type of action."
As I have written upthread, the Biden administration's (as well as both Trump administrations') failure to arrest Maduro sooner may become a significant subissue if Maduro seeks dismissal on Sixth Amendment speedy trial grounds.
When did we have the opportunity to arrest him?? Biden and Netanyahu doing such a great job with foreign policy freed up bandwidth for Trump to focus energy on this operation.
>The constitution is not a suicide pact.
Yeah, it's not, so don't imply that it is. Not arresting this guy would not be suicide.
>an operation that would be spoiled by congressional notice.
Do you think that if Congress had a closed session, this guy would have known why?
Realistically, almost all the time somebody says, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact!", what they really mean is, "Interpreted honestly the Constitution IS a suicide pact, and therefore we should interpret it dishonestly."
Only they never bother establishing that following the honest interpretation would be suicidal. You're right, not arresting Maduro would not in any way be suicidal.
"Do you think that if Congress had a closed session, this guy would have known why?"
No, we think that if Congress had a closed session to discuss this operation, one or more members of Congress would have violated the closure and warned him.
Brett insists BrettLaw is self-evidently correct, and everyone knows it!
Look who's defending Trump starting a war without Congressional approval in order to kidnap a foreign (at least de facto) head of state. Apparently your BDS is worse than your TDS, if I criticize Trump you're driven to defend him.
The president has no inherent authority. He has only the authority given to him by the constitution and duly enacted laws. And none of this had a damn thing to do with the security of America.
"The constitution is antiquated" is not a legal argument, and I doubt a single person raising that claim would accept it in any other context. "Firearms now are much more lethal than they were in 1789, so the RKBA is antiquated and should be ignored." "Speech moves much faster these days than in the 18th century, so it can cause more harm. Lying about vaccine safety during a pandemic can be deadly for the country, so the president has inherent authority to suppress anti-vax speech. The 1A is outdated." Etc., etc.
>At the very least, mass-murdering dictators like Maduro and Vladimir Putin should not have any kind of immunity.
What about Netanyahu? Shouldn't he be in that list?
As neither mass murdering nor a dictator, no.
Prof. Somin must be pissed that millions of Venezuelans may return to the country including the vast number living in the US.
Must he be?
He has a favorite food cart vendor near his office from Venezuela. How can he maintain his quality of life if these people can return home? This is why we need a permanent underclass - to exploit for their labor.
Look, it's a 'net benefit' or something.
### NYC Mayor Mamdani Sparks National Outrage with Daring Midnight "Extraction" of Nicolás Maduro from Brooklyn Federal Jail
**New York, NY — January 4, 2026**
Byline: Grok News Service (Satire Desk)
In what city officials are calling a "bold act of municipal solidarity and progressive sanctuary policy enforcement," New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani orchestrated a late-night operation early Sunday morning that saw NYPD officers—backed by what one anonymous source described as "a lot of coffee and righteous indignation"—remove former Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro from federal custody at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn.
Maduro, who had arrived in the facility just hours earlier following a dramatic U.S. military extraction from Caracas on January 3, was reportedly "surprised but cooperative" during the handover. Video footage leaked to social media shows a bewildered Maduro, still in his orange jumpsuit, being escorted out by NYPD detectives who politely offered him a MetroCard and a halal cart recommendation for his troubles.
Mayor Mamdani, fresh off his historic inauguration on January 1 as New York's first Muslim and South Asian mayor, defended the move in a hastily called press conference at City Hall at 3 a.m. "New York City has always been a beacon for immigrants, refugees, and those fleeing political persecution—even if that persecution comes from, uh, complicated international indictments," Mamdani said, flanked by Public Advocate Jumaane Williams and a visibly confused Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch. "Nicolás Maduro brings valuable expertise in economic redistribution, nationalizing industries, and standing up to imperial overreach. We're proud to offer him sanctuary... and a job."
Hours later, Mamdani announced Maduro's immediate appointment as **Deputy Mayor for Economic Development, Equity, and Civil Liberties**—a newly created senior position in his administration. "Who better to advise on equitable resource allocation than someone who's managed an economy under sanctions?" the mayor quipped. "Plus, he's promised to help us launch those five city-run grocery stores I campaigned on. Arepas for everyone!"
The operation, dubbed "Operation Bienvenido Nicolás" by enthusiastic staffers, reportedly involved NYPD's Emergency Service Unit distracting federal guards with a fake bomb threat at a nearby Dunkin' Donuts, allowing a team to slip in through a service entrance. Sources say the feds were left a polite note: "Borrowing your detainee for city business. We'll have him back by never. —NYC."
Reaction was swift and polarized. President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social: "Crooked Zohran just SPRUNG a NARCO-TERRORIST from FEDERAL PRISON! Worst Mayor Ever—worse than de Blasio on a bad hair day! We're sending the National Guard... again!" White House officials confirmed an emergency call between Trump and Mamdani, during which the mayor reportedly invited the president to a block party "to discuss affordability over empanadas."
Venezuelan opposition leaders celebrated Maduro's original capture but expressed confusion over the New York twist. One exile in Miami told reporters, "First he's arrested, now he's a deputy mayor? Only in America."
Legal experts are scrambling. "This raises fascinating questions about federal supremacy, sanctuary cities, and whether 'equity' extends to indicted foreign leaders," said one constitutional scholar. The DOJ has already filed emergency motions, while Attorney General Pam Bondi fumed: "You can't just Uber a defendant out of MDC Brooklyn!"
Maduro, settling into temporary housing in Queens (near authentic Venezuelan spots, per the mayor's office), released a statement through translators: "I am honored to serve the people of New York in fighting capitalism and high rent. Viva la revolución... and free buses!"
As federal helicopters buzzed over the East River at dawn, New Yorkers woke to the news with typical nonchalance. One Brooklyn resident shrugged: "Eh, as long as he fixes the G train."
The saga continues. Stay tuned—because in 2026 New York, anything is possible. Even this.
If the courts take Maduro's prosecution seriously then it's yet more evidence of the end of the Age of Justice in America. I expect they will do just that, as they have accepted the War on Drugs. It's no small thing that lawyers are the main beneficiaries of metastasized government.
>creating the biggest refugee crisis in the history of the Western Hemisphere
Was not the United States enriched by these people? Seems like he was doing us a favor - 'net benefit' after all.
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian has declared that the country is engaged in a "full-scale war" with the United States, Israel, and Europe. And Iran and its proxies have certainly killed a number of Americans. So I guess it checks all the boxes for a war without Congressional approval under the Noriega precedent, so Trump's good to go if he wants to do a regime change there. Either that or the attempt to distinguisn the Panama invasion from Venezuela is really just an empty rationalization.
In the Panama case, Noriega "detained other American citizens."
Well, in the Venezuela case, Maduro (and Chavez) detained American citizens working for Citgo- the "Citgo Six"
https://www.fox26houston.com/video/fmc-zs4e2e2g48h5kfcw
I'm not quite sure the snatching of Maduro reaches the level of warfare necessary to intrude on the powers of Congress. To me, it's equivalent to the United States going in to Pakistan and taking out Osama Bin Laden.
A big part of the analysis, is whether the action will thrust the United States into a war. If we went into China and snatched Xi Jinping, that would almost certainly result in a world-wide war on epic scale, so certainly Congress would need to approve that action. With Venezuela, it doesn't appear likely at all that snatching Madura will result in any warfare whatsoever.