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Still the Stare Decisis Court (At Least For Now)
Even with a six-justice conservative majority, the Roberts Court has not (yet) increased the rate at which it overturns precedents.
The Roberts Court has attracted headlines overturning longstanding and high-profile precedents, including Roe v. Wade and Chevron v. NRDC. This term, the Court appears poised to topple another, Humphrey's Executor, if (as expected) it upholds President Trump's removal of Rebecca Slaughter from the Federal Trade Commission.
In the past, I have noted that the Roberts Court has overturned precedent less often than did the Warren, Burger, or Rehnquist Courts. Indeed, as I've blogged repeatedly and written in National Review, it is not particularly close, as shown in data compiled by the Library of Congress and in the Supreme Court database (which includes precedent alteration in its tabulations).
Given the rash of recent decisions overturning prominent precedents, it is reasonable to ask whether this claims are still true. The answer? Thus far it is. Even though the Court now has a six-justice conservative majority, which should make it easier to overturn precedents at odds with conservative jurisprudential principles, the rate at which the Court is overturning prior precedents has not (yet) increased. To the contrary, it appears to have slowed.
If one divides the Roberts Court into the first Roberts Court (2005-2020) and the second Roberts Court (2020-present), the rate at which the Court has overturned precedents is actually lower in the second Roberts Court (although for one of the three measures, the difference is minimal).
As illustrated in the accompanying chart, whether one looks at cases overturning precedents per term, precedents overturned per term, or decisions altering precedent per term, we have not yet seen an increase in the rate at which the Roberts Court is overturning prior precedents. The confirmation of Justice Barrett to replace Justice Ginsburg unquestionably made the Court more conservative--and likely led to the overturning of Roe in Dobbs--it did not produce an immediate increase in the rate at which the Court has been moving the law in a conservative direction by overturning prior precedents.
These results may be surprising. There are multiple reasons why the shift from a 5-4 Court to a 6-3 Court would be expected to increase the number of precedents in jeopardy and the rate at which those precedents are overturned. It just has not happened yet.
One reason the Roberts Court has not overturned more precedent is that it hears fewer cases. It is stingy about granting certiorari, so it has fewer opportunities to overturn precedents.
At the same time, the Court appears somewhat deliberate about what cases it takes, and that includes what precedents it wants to revisit. The Court is overturning fewer precedents, but the precedents it is overturning may be higher profile. This may reflect a preference for stability in the law, accept when it comes to particularly significant decisions that push against the majority's jurisprudential vision.
I suspect it has been easier for the justices to coalesce about the need to overturn precedents that have long been targeted by conservative jurists, and for which the arguments for overturning the precedent are well developed and there is a fairly clear idea for what might replace the precedent. Roe, Chevron, Abood, and Bakke would all fit these criteria. But the number of such cases may not be as long as some think. And if the justices are hearing fewer cases, they are less likely to find themselves confronted with a case that requires reconsidering a precedent they had not already targeted.
It is also noting in this regard that since Justice Barrett has joined the Court, every case overturning a precedent that can be so characterized, moved the law in a more conservative direction. This stands in stark contrast to when Justice Kennedy was on the Court, and the Court would overturn precedents to move the law in both liberal and conservative directions, depending on Justice Kennedy's particular preferences.
It is also important to stress that it is still early, and what we have seen in the past few years--a Court wiling to overturn a few, high-profile precedents--may change. If the justices are interested in revisiting more areas of law, and reconsidering more precedents, cause attorneys and lower courts will likely give them the opportunity to do so.
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Like they say on the internet, "technically true" is the best kind.
It's a pointless article, what law professors do when given calculators and graphic apps but are too lazy/cowardly to actually look at the substance of what the Court is doing.
I mean who cares if court's overall rate of reversal is the same? It's the time when the Court plays a decisive role in our politics that matters.
Not to mention the number of times when it doesn't technically overturn a precedent, but sure does weazel around it.
I agree with this. The Court "distinguishes" or "fails to extend" precedent to a case that by all rights should follow a certain precedent.
Look at Selia Law, for example.
Like lawyers say, if you had facts and logic on your side, you wouldn't resort to pounding the table.
Seems possible to quantify this by looking at precedents overturned weighted by how often those precedents were cited. Chevron and Roe would certainly be up there. With the exception of the thing in the synopsis saying "don't cite the synopsis," Chevron was the most cited case in the United States.
I am not convinced its a 6-3 court. I think its a 3-3-3 court, which makes it hard to coalesce, or maybe even a 3-3-1-1-1- court (Gorsuch, Thomas, and Barrett being islands whereas Alito, Roberts, and Kavangaugh are a solid voting bloc).
No, Alito does not belong in a block with Roberts and Kavanaugh. The latter two are politicians, they have their personal inclinations which are probably mildly conservative, but they are listening eagerly for the murmors, or shouts, of the crowd. They will not put out their hand further than they can pull it back.
But Alito is an absolutely standard issue liberal Justice - he always toes the party, or strictly, ideology line. He's just on the other side from the liberal gals. His vote, like the gals', can be predicted with absolute confidence by what Sarcastro would call "balancing" - ie balancing the desired answer against the law, and coming down for the former. (Kagan, who is smarter than the other liberal gals, often trades her vote, when she knows she's going to lose anyway, in return for a narrower precedent against her team. In other words, the residual precedent is often more important to her than the result of the actual case.
I agree the other three are islands unto themselves. I started off thinking Barrett was a politiian like Roberts and Kavanaugh, but now I think she's just paddling her own canoe.
But Alito is an absolutely standard issue liberal Justice
Is that a typo or are you suggesting Justice Alito is secretly liberal? Being the author of the majority opinion (Dobbs) that overruled Roe v. Wade makes it hard for me to believe he is anything like Justices Sotomayor, Kagan, or Jackson.
"Sotomayor, Kagan, or Jackson"
Two are leftists, not liberals. Kagan is just a fellow traveler with them.
Good grief.
It’s. An. Insult.
Alito is politically conservative but jurisprudentially liberal. His means of arriving at a decision commence with the decision he wants to reach, and works back from there. Same method as a standard liberal justice - who is politically liberal and also jurisprudentially liberal.
I am suggesting that Alito is not a good judge, just as Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson are not good judges because they are all jurisprudentially liberal - ie answer first, reasons whatev.
Whereas Thomas, Gorsuch and probably Barrett, plus Roberts and Kavanaugh on their better days, are jurisprudentially conservative. The analysis and reasoning comes first and the answer is not preordained by their political preference. Which is how judges are supposed to work.
The other kind are judges in name only- in reality they’re hacks.
It says a lot that you think being a good judge is the same thing as meeting your ideological priors.
It's the usual originalist shitpost - agree with me or you're not just wrong, you're illegitimate. Because fuck you that's why.
You're tiresome.
It does not, obviously, surprise me at all that the Sarcastroian "interpretation" of my remarks is the precise opposite of what I said. That one-eyed telepathy never fails.
What I am looking for in a judge is honesty - that is to say that the judge starts with the facts and the laws and from there works out the decision, even if he doesn't like it. Sadly that approach is now called "conservative" jurispridence because no politically liberal "judges" attempt it. Maybe once upon a time there were some who did, but now not.
And we both know why - because liberal jurisprudence expressly applauds the appeal to consequences outwith the four corners of the law. Which is why you like Breyer's individually crafted balancing tests. Which always arrive at where Breyer wants to be. Quelle surprise.
I would be delighted to have liberal judges using conservative jurisprudence .... because then it wouldn't matter whether they were liberal or conservative. The result would follow from an honest application of the laws to the facts. It would not be pre-determined by political preference.
Was there EVER a Breyer opinion that did not end up where he personally believed that it should be?
And I include things like his Allyene concurrence which was just a middle finger to the Court as he had been dissenting against that proposition for years. He said that his opinion was not what the law required, not what he believed, and not desirable as an outcome. Just said that since the Court had screwed it up 75%, it should go all the way to 100%.
Yeah, this is the shallowness that makes you tiresome. You don't have the depth of knowledge to make a judgement call but you're sure enough that you're gonna judge anyhow.
Your view is conservative jurisprudence = 'good.' and liberal = 'bad.'
That semantic choice would give anyone seeking actual honesty some pause.
Alito is politically conservative but jurisprudentially liberal. His means of arriving at a decision commence with the decision he wants to reach, and works back from there. Same method as a standard liberal justice - who is politically liberal and also jurisprudentially liberal.
So, you are accusing him of being a results-oriented Justice. Why do you believe he is results oriented? I have no idea how any Justice analyses a case outside of what that Justice writes or says publicly. Do you have an inside source?
If I own a company in a town composed of a 50-50 mix of ethnic Poles, and African Americans, and I have 1,000 employees all of whom are male ethnic Poles, yes, it could be pure coincidence that no African American and no woman has ever met my demanding standards for an employee. It could happen. Yup, it could.
I have, as Thomas More said, no window into another man's soul. Likewise I have no window into the soul of an approaching Polar Bear. But if I see one approaching, I might conclude that perhaps it is time to retreat.
You speak as if it's obvious which, if any, Justices are results oriented in their decision making. IMO, you are engaging in rank speculation.
Likewise I have no window into the soul of an approaching Polar Bear. But if I see one approaching, I might conclude that perhaps it is time to retreat.
What type of analysis each Justice uses is nowhere near that obvious and you know/should-know that.
Alito is an absolutely standard issue liberal Justice
I loled. thanks for the laugh.
I think the lineup is closer to Gorsuch, Thomas, Alito in one group and Barrett, Roberts, and Kavanaugh in the next.
Some issues change the line up. For example, I don't think Alito has every seen a search or seizure that he did not approve of.
Typically the more radically conservative lines fill from Thomas to Gorsuch to Alito to Kavanaugh to Barrett and then to Roberts. Sometimes you get a Kagan on a straightforward issue, but usually she is with Sotomayor and Jackson who've never seen a liberal issue they won't vote for.
You left out the signs, + and -
"One reason the Roberts Court has not overturned more precedent is that it hears fewer cases. It is stingy about granting certiorari, so it has fewer opportunities to overturn precedents."
This makes no sense. This entire post is about the *rate* the Court is overturning precedent. The quantity of cases (the denominator) has no effect on the rate they are overturned, which is determined by the numerator's value.
It does say "rate per term." Not the appropriate rate to use, but absolutely still a rate.
You also have to take into account how many cases challenge existing precedent. Most don't.
Is this new, though? At any time a lawyer is much better off arguing that his position fits neatly within current law (even if it really doesn't) than inviting the Court to overrule a case. If you take the latter position, that is a guaranteed loss in the lower courts, which for the overwhelming majority of cases is all you will ever get.
You wouldn't be doing right by your client if you pinned your hopes on going all the way to SCOTUS and overruling precedent.
Prof Alder, your chart is pretty close to unreadable and does not adequately support the claims of your article.
a. It's showing on the page far too small to read. That was mitigatable by opening the image in another tab but most readers won't.
b. It includes undefined terms. What is SCD? How is 'overruled' different from 'overruling'?
c. Is your analysis normalized for the difference in total cases decided per year (which, if I remember correctly, is also trending downward)? Your article text implies that it wasn't but the method behind your calculations could be more clear.
Thanks.
I think people generally know how to zoom in (don't need to open the figure into a new window [or a paint program]) so that "a" is not much of a problem.
The problem you find when you zoom in is that it's not terribly high resolution. So you can zoom in all you want, and the legend across the bottom remains unreadable.
"Even though the Court now has a six-justice conservative majority, which should make it easier to overturn precedents at odds with conservative
jurisprudential principlespolitical ideas , "Geriatric boomer lib commenters seething at the eminent moderation and reasonableness of the Roberts Court. They should really be taking on a far larger docket though
"This may reflect a preference for stability in the law, accept when it comes to "
What is going on with this site? In the last few months, typos and run-on words have become common.
One would not be convinced by a pool hustler who claimed that he wasn't hustling you because you won the first 5 games (at $5 a pop) and he only won 1 game - for $100.
It is not about the number of cases over turned, it is about which cases are overturned and how. SCOTUS is targeting cases that enforce civil rights and limit the power of the president. Some they are doing on the shadow docket.
It remains a mystery how any of us are left alive after the net neutrality repeal by the FCC.
Net neutrality has always been the case, and still is. Net neutrality is crucial for the internet to function as an instrument of the free flow of information and services. The FCC was trying to cement current practices into law because once the net stops being neutral it would be almost impossible to reverse.
For liberals suffering the trauma of a conservative Supreme Court moving the law in a direction that causes them distress, the question of the number of precedents overturned is like MAGA sharing the national electoral map where most of the country looks blue. But does not reflect or take into account population density.
This observation cuts in multiple directions, because one super-duper precedent especially traumatic to see overturned was like the tiny blue map dots representing LA or NYC. But the libs here will likely pretend it's a yuge number of very important precedents being overturned like the mostly red electoral map. The Senate is gerrymandered!
It's amazing how many people demonstrate that they do not read when people criticize Supreme Court decisions.
There are some unhappy about the outcomes, sure. But if you think that's all folks are complaining about, you're not paying attention.
Start with the chage in the use of the shadow docket. Agree or disagree, that's not about the Supreme Court moving the law, it's a process issue.
Among his many faults, Roberts will not challenge liberal shibboleths. So its hard to overturn all the lawless 1960s Warren Court cases.
Roberts will not challenge liberal shibboleths
Like his famous opinion upholding Roe?
Yes, just like that !
You have presumably read his concurrence in judgement, in Dobbs, which expressly declines to overrule Roe. You could hardly have picked a better example of Roberts' predilection for balancing on fences.
So in actual law-related substance, the Third Circuit heard oral arguments in the Alina Habba case (yes, THAT bs is still going on).
If you didn't watch it live, it was ... something. Unfortunately, they don't keep the video up after the live broadcast (why?), but the audio should be posted sometime soon. Definitely worth a listen.
You can't predict the way a case will turn out by oral arguments, but ... that was not a great argument for this administration. When one side spends all their time barely able to get a few sentences together because the bench is scorching hot and pushing you hard, and the other side is basically, "Here's my case. Thanks for your consideration," it doesn't bode well for one side. Usually.
But we will see!
I didn't listen to the argument, but sometimes judges will hammer you because they are almost to your position and want to test it out. They understand the other side's position.
I've lost cases where I had a cold bench and won cases with a hot bench.