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Let's see what further steps towards authoritarianism Trump has made in the last few days.
I guess the worst is that he is preparing to send the army into yet another major opposition-controlled city.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/08/23/trump-chicago-military-national-guard/
God blessed America with President Donald Trump!
I am proud of our President that appointed strong, intelligent, beautiful women to his cabinet unlike the last brain-dead child petter that only had transvestities.
One of the fascinating things about this blog is watching all of the arguments that Eugenec the crew and commentors used when conservatism was on the back foot when I was a law student, now completed disavowed with trump in charge.
They used to talk about militias and the second amendment as a check on power of the federal government, now the militias have been taken over by the federal government, and the gun owners are in the wind.
They used to seek out free speech for conservatives on liberal campuses for unpopular opinions, now they want even more draconian punishments for anyone that speaks for palestine or espouses near-socialist ideas.
When I was a law student, and maybe I was deluding myself, it seemed like this was a non-partisan take on libertarianism in the law. George Bush's overreach was questionned as much as anything the democrats were doing.
I didn't always agree, but the thought process displayed was valuable to me as a law student. Now, I don't know what any law student would consistently get from this blog as it relates to the history or study of law. Now nothing matters here but to rubber stamp Trump, Israel, and various other groups in power.
Also, the commentors are all just boomer magas looking to get their backs patted. There used to be real discussions, now every thing is "the blacks", "the DEI", "the woke", "the democrats", which have nothing to do with the principles of law. This whole site needs to take a look in the mirror.
There's a great feature here called the mute button. There's still a fair amount of interesting commentary here, but you have to weed out the crap.
No amount of past loyalty will protect you if the Great Leader fears that you are no longer loyal to him:
First John Bolton, now you dupes are defending Chris Christie?
lmao
Hey, listen.
The right stole Donald Trump from the Dems and more recently acquired Tulsi Gabbard.
The libs got to spoon with Dick Cheney and found out that they really, really liked it. The moustache ride they're taking with Bolton right now can't last forever (they realize) and so they're doing some chubby chasing with Christie.
It all balances out in the end.
None of libs support Bolton or Cheney. They are two of the hardest core conservatives to ever live. But instead of being rightly feted as conservative heroes they each made one mistake. The same mistake.
None of libs support Bolton or Cheney.
They do, at least in the enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend way, shoving them up as talking heads and feeding them honey to rip on Trump.
That's not support; prosecutors don't support lower level mobsters when they use them as witnesses against their leaders.
I'm not defending either of them. I'm warning Trumpists like you that nothing short of complete abnegation is good enough.
That just shows how ignorant you are of American Politics.
So 95% abnegation is sufficient?
So President Trump is calling for investigation of what he claims to be criminal conduct occurring in 2013? In light of 18 U.S.C. § 3282(a), what would be the point?
JD Vance justifies kissing Putin's ass with a very unusual interpretation of how World War II ended:
"This is how wars ultimately get settled. If you go back to World War 2, if you go back to every major conflict in human history, they all end with some kind of negotiation."
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lx5ofw74hw2o
At the Yalta conference the West and the USSR negotiated about how to divide postwar Europe.
I think Martin is implying that it took the complete obliteration of Germany to end that war. Owing to his recent animus towards Ukraine, I think Vance is hoping for a similar 'negotiated' outcome for them
They should impeach the VP for the purely political position of lying about WW2, ironically, to support modern Hitler with his WWII-initiating Sudetenland-like claims about needing to protect his ethic
GermansRussians.Here's Truman talking about how the complete destruction of Japan is imminent, as was done with Germany.
You can then watch the representative of Japan, in fine tails and hat, sign the Instrument of Surrender on the USS Missouri, though YouTube seems to be lousy with colorized versions for some reason.
Shortly later, he killed himself in shame. Odd. He wasn't proud of a negotiated surrender.
Exactly. Many peoples in countries that had been under Nazi occupation had their fates decided by much more powerful countries, at least one of the leaders of those countries was clearly looking to negotiate for some of those peoples to be under his thumb.
The post-WWII order wasn't the abject failure that the post-Versailles order was. In fact, there was a lot of success in it. But there was also a lot of oppression that lasted decades that was enabled by Yalta.
...and you suppose the people of eastern Europe were happy with that?
Really strong negotiator, that Truman. Got Hitler to shoot himself.
Are you advocating Gor the Truman strategy for ending wars?
Atom bombs, Asian land wars?
And only the first one worked, the Asian land war thing never works.
I heard the VP say this yesterday and thinking what a stretch. He knows well on WWII, with complete surrender by Germany and Japan, and yet he tries to sell this BS of negotiations.
I see Tucker is now 'just asking questions' about whether the US should have allied with Hitler. It will be a surprise to no one except our Jewish MAGA frogs that the Christian Nationalist MAGA scorpion will end up giving them a sting.
"But I trusted you! You said you weren't exploiting me for political gain."
"You knew who I was all along. See? It's even written on my red cap."
Reality is that Stalin was, in many ways, worse than Hitler. It took 4 years to defeat Hitler -- 45 to defeat Stalin -- and between Putin and China, we really haven't.
Asking if an alliance with Hitler would have turned out better is a legitimate geopolitical question -- particularly when one remembers that Stalin lived until 1953 while Hitler would have been dead of something by 1947 at the latest.
And then one other thing -- the Soviet government survived Stalin's death -- I'm not so sure the Nazi government would have survived Hitler's. And Stalin killed more Jews than Hitler...
Dumbass Jew frogs. Nationalist movements and religions have targeted/exploited them for millenia. But...hey...MAGA will be different.
"We're not like the others, you know. All that replacement talk was just us joking. See? We've labelled everyone antisemites. Well, sure...they happen to all be political enemies of Donald...but that's just coincidence!"
"Dumbass Jew frogs."
No excuse for that slur. Shame on you.
Its a parable...idiot
Stalin was no doubt among the most evil people to live and rule. but he survived 45 years by knowing how to live with the US and western Europe. Hitler did not learn how to live with his enemies. Hitler wanted it all while Stalin was content with controlling his piece of the world. Stalin and Mao were bad duds but Hitler was the GOAT.
That's the point: Stalin had staying power, Hitler didn't. That's why Stalin by the time he was done had killed more people than Hitler, and left behind a totalitarian country that stayed unfree.
Are you going to join the gang saying we were on the wrong side in WW2?
I know Hitler has a mythic power on our current political morality system and so punches some above his weight. But 'we should have joined the Axis' is a sign you've lost the thread of history via some counterfactual fallacy or other.
Arguing about who was the "worst" dictator is a fools errand. There is a certain point where the bad-o-meter maxes out, and all 3 of those guys were well past that threshold. Think about it this way, if Hitler had only killed 5 million Jews in the Holocaust, would he have been "better"?
This notion of "we were on the wrong side in WWII" is truly frightening, however, and people who argue it should be ashamed.
It is also monumentally stupid, as the Germans declared war on us shortly after Pearl Harbor, and there is no plausible counterfactual where we could have been allied with Germany.
Equally stupid is the notion that we had the wherewithal or the will to turn around and take on the Soviets immediately after defeating Germany (with or without the help of a devastated Wehrmacht).
"had the wherewithal"
IDN, ask the Japanese about that. Atomic bombs are quite a lot of "wherewithal".
The Brits looked at this and quickly shelved the idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable
Dropping an A-bomb or two on the Japanese was a complete no brainer. They were the aggressor, had committed unspeakable atrocities against their enemies (including the US) and had exactly zero defenders in the US govt and the population as a whole. Not using the Bomb, and allowing more US boys to die, would have been viewed as genuinely treasonous -- Harry Truman would be viewed as Benedict Arnold and Douglas Haig rolled into one.
Using A-bombs against the USSR in a war we instigated would have been a different kettle of fish altogether.
Stalin killed a lot of people. Russians who died in Leningrad, or opposing German invaders are not properly counted among them.
I think that notion that Stalin killed more people than Hitler depends pretty heavily on counting as Stalin's victims a lot of Russians, Balts, Eastern Europeans, and miscellaneous slavs whom Hitler killed. It probably also depends on subtracting from Hitler's toll Germany's own losses due to its own Hitler-ordered military misadventures.
"every major conflict in human history"
Yeah, he mangled that but "MOST major conflicts in human history" end with negotiations. Other than the Civil War and WWII, all US wars have ended with negotiations. Napoleonic Wars ended with Congress of Vienna, 30 years war with Peace of Westphalia, among many other examples.
Unless every single enemy is destroyed, the resolution of human conflicts do end with negotiations. Depending on the imbalance of power during the negotiations, it could be as simple as a cessation of killings in exchange for the other side throwing down weapons.
I think you have hit on the point. The VP is saying that the acceptance of complete surrender is also considered negotiations.
WWI ended in unconditional surrender as much as the Civil War did. Foch gave the German delegation a list of terms and told them to sign on the dotted line. With a couple of immaterial quibbles, they did so.
Treaty of Versailles ended the war with Germany. Other treaties with the other Central Powers.
Naah -- the armistice ended it. The T of V just formalized the terms. The Germans had already withdrawn and (more importantly) disarmed. They had even less leverage at the treaty conference than they did at Compiegne.
And nobody gives two craps about Austria Hungary or the Turks (except the Serbs).
Something that I was surprised to see on multiple levels -- The AAUP -- American Association of University Professors -- has somehow merged with the AFT -- American Federation of Teachers, one of the two national K-12 unions, the other being the Never Educate Anyone (NEA).
Am I the only person who didn't know about this? At the risk of inviting an ad hominem fuselage, and with the honest concession that I am not the most diligent reader of the higher education press, it really did come as a surprise to me.
I don't know what it does to the AAUP legally, but ethically, doesn't it raise issues with them censuring institutions when they are also engaged in labor law relations with them?
And I like to remind people that both Franklin Roosevelt and George Meaney of the AFL-CIO were adamantly opposed to public sector unionization.
I don't know what 'labor law relations' means, but this doesn't seem wild:
"As an affiliate, the AAUP maintains its independence and autonomy—as do our chapters. AAUP members will continue as full members of the AAUP with all the rights and privileges that go with membership. The AAUP will continue to have its own national governing Council, officers, constitution, and Biennial Association Meeting and AAUP chapters will continue to be governed by chapter constitutions. The AAUP maintains sole authority over its budget, programs, and staff. The AAUP also maintains sole authority over the Redbook, the promulgation of professional standards, investigation and censure/sanction and over its committees. All AAUP members will also become members of the AFT/AFL-CIO, with all the rights and privileges that go with membership in the AFT."
https://www.aaup.org/faqs-aaupaft-affiliation
"All AAUP members will also become members of the AFT/AFL-CIO, with all the rights and privileges that go with membership in the AFT."
Which is my point -- it is like the ACLU affiliating with the NRA.
No AAUP statement can now be viewed as independent of the AFL-CIO while in the past, the power of the AAUP was that it *was*...
"fuselage" - I think you meant fusillade.
Damn spellcheck....
All those people who were hysterical about the UK Online Safety Act last week will presumably also have strong opinions about this Mississippi situation:
https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3lwzadikbrc2u
The rest of us might be wondering whether Twitter is getting the same treatment. (I don't know the answer either way. I can't be bothered to check.)
I am not a fan of the Mississippi law.
Basically, only tame platforms are allowed to have anonymous users.
Like many others, I am no fan of the Mississippi law. However, it’s disingenuous to compare it to the UK Online Safety Act. They’re not remotely alike in intent nor scope.
While I find the rather sophomoric tweets of two gentlemen who are old enough to know better to be regrettable, I presume that there was a legitimate law enforcement purpose for the raid on Bolton's house.
And the point I try to remind the Never Trumpers of is that if you are forever "crying 'wolf'!", no one will ever believe you should there actually be a wolf there someday.
That said, *IF* (and I emphasize "if") this actually is unfounded and merely an attempt by Trump to punish his enemies, does Bolton have any legal recourse?
The man's not getting sympathy from me -- he did agree to pre-publication review of his books and then ignored that (reportedly) -- I'm just wondering.
There was much discussion on this blog last week about selective prosecution.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/intro.9-2-22/ALDE_00013902/
The Supreme Court has held that a plaintiff claiming to have suffered retaliation in violation of the Free Speech Clause must first demonstrate that the plaintiff engaged in constitutionally protected speech and such speech was a motivating factor behind the official’s adverse action. If the plaintiff demonstrates this, the official must show that it would have taken the same action absent the protected speech. The Supreme Court has held that a plaintiff alleging retaliatory prosecution—that is, being charged with a crime in retaliation for speech—must also prove that their prosecution was not supported by probable cause, as required by the Fourth Amendment. In Nieves v. Bartlett, the Court recognized an exception to the probable cause rule, holding that a plaintiff alleging retaliatory arrest need not show a lack of probable cause if the plaintiff presents objective evidence that he was arrested when otherwise similarly situated individuals not engaged in the same sort of protected speech had not been.
Until you're ready to admit they shouldn't have come after Trump, it all rings hollow. Or is selective prosecution only wrong if Republicans do it?
Who shouldn't have come after Trump?
lol what? You're now pretending no one went after Trump or his orbit?
Is this what it takes to be a Lefty today?
No, I'm asking Brett which Trump prosecution he thinks was selective. Because in some cases (like the New York case) the argument for selective prosecution was a lot stronger than in others (like the fucking around with classified documents case).
If I show some girl a bunch of open-source stuff I downloaded off the internet and tell her it is classified "top secret", exactly what am I guilty of?
And while the CONTENTS of a folder marked "top secret" are classified, is the folder itself? So if I put something ELSE in it???
Trump's a showman, everyone knows that, and telling someone that something is secret doesn't mean it actually IS secret...
Well, basically all of them; You have any idea how many people in Washington fuck around with classified documents?
Biden himself had them scattered all over; Office at Penn Biden center, in the garage, you name it. He was sharing classified documents with his biographer, remember?
Comey was sharing classified documents with the media.
Bolton? He shared classified documents with his family, and more recently was using them to write a book.
So, yeah, I'm fine with saying that Trump may well have violated classified documents laws, but it was still selective prosecution in that case.
Incidentally, as far as I can tell this issue was not (properly) raised by Trump in the New York litigation, or at least not preserved for appeal, which is why four out of five judges rejected this idea in the appellate judgment last week.
Which "shouldn't have come after Trump?" are you talking about? I think some of the cases were weak, a distraction from Trump's much worse behavior, and shouldn't have been brought. Unfortunately, both the New York civil and criminal cases fall into this bucket, and they're the only cases we got to see prosecuted.
Of course, the closest analogy to the Bolton case is the documents case, which seemed pretty legitimate to me. And while it's the closest analogy, I don't think it comes anywhere near justifying the raid on Bolton's house and office unless it turns out that the administration has been asking Bolton for documents back for a year and he's been refusing and actively moving the documents around trying to hide them from the government.
But that's the thing: Selective prosecution is distinct from bullshit prosecution. Selective prosecution doesn't mean the charges are bogus, it means that they wouldn't have been brought if you weren't out to get the guy.
The NY civil and criminal cases were bogus cases brought because they were out to get the guy, the documents case was not really bogus, but no ex-President would have normally been treated that way.
And I say that having said myself that Trump was a damned fool expecting to get normal ex-President treatment from the Biden DOJ. By then he was fully on notice that they were out to get him by any means possible, fair or foul, so he should have been more careful.
No, the documents case was not an example of selective prosecution. Where is your example of some other former President that repeatedly ignored and eventually subverted requests to return classified documents? If Trump had just been charged for possessing the docs, you'd have a point, but of course that's not the situation at all.
https://x.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?lang=en
If the raid was based on lies, Bivens applies.
Bivens is dead.
I didn't even know he was sick.
The classified doc thing is just pretext. I believe they are looking for/planting mortgage fraud docs. It's not as thrilling as Night of the Long Knives, but it gets the job done.
I know I shouldn't be taking any notice of this but it is amusing to see one committed Democrat anking another why Democratic registration is down 2.1 million voters in the 30 states that report party registration, while GOP registration is up 2.4 million.
https://x.com/NRCC/status/1959619202303582620?t=vQNYecKnDFkdQKGZ6PPeAw&s=19
CNN was asking Hakeem Jeffries about a NYTimes story, so blame them for noticing, its not something I am tracking.
One might speculate that voters are angry that the Democrats have decided not to be the opposition...
To be fair they have opposed:
scrapping a 4 trillion dollar tax cut.
Reducing DC's crime rate.
Making women's sports just for women.
Deporting illegal aliens whether or not they are criminals.
Ending NGO slush funds for out of office democrats.
Cutting the size and scope of federal government.
Ending the EV mandate.
That's not enough?
Unless of course the 2.1m voters leaving the Dems is all the illegal aliens self deporting.
It also doesn't explain the 2.4 million surge in GOP voters.
That's not enough?
Presumably Democratic voters would prefer it if Democratic politicians spent more time doing things like that, i.e. voting against Trumpist attempts to make the world worse at every turn.
The problem is that the Democratic party seems to be increasingly out of touch with the median voter.
I think this is due to the party's increasingly urban focus: Because urban centers have become such partisan monocultures, (Having many precincts that return 100% votes for Democrats in each election.) there's a faction of Democrats growing up there who really have no experience outside of one party states. And they now control the party.
And yet, the country as a whole remains 50-50, so this handicaps them everywhere but the urban centers: The party is run by people who have never needed to, and don't know how to, appeal to median voters, because they come from places that are so unrepresentative of the country as a whole.
The situation isn't symmetric, because almost none of the country is as heavily Republican as urban areas are heavily Democratic. A vanishingly small portion of the Republican leadership come from places where there aren't any Democrats.
Here you can see a graph of party affiliation vs population density. As you can see, at no population density does the average Republican vote get over about 68%, while at high densities, the Democratic share of the vote goes well over 80%.
The result is that the median Democrat is elected from a district that is much more left-wing relative to the political center of the country than the districts the media Republican is elected from.
Political science causality is hard to figure, and the simple stories are almost always wrong. One clue is you've concluded it's the Dems who are the radicals these days.
That's so dumb only Brett could be self-deluded enough to type it.
But because appeals to incredulity don't play with the deluded, I'd point out that Schumer being really unpopular *in New York* is support for Martinned's postulate, and against yours:
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5448327-chuck-schumer-new-york-city-voters-favorability-survey/
In fact your theory neglects the Senate entirely. I'd not noticed how you shifted the thesis.
You studied it out too hard on this one, Brett!
I ignored the Senate as I ignored the Presidency, because both being at large elections at the state level, the phenomenon I was talking about was only indirectly applicable.
But, Schumer, elected-state wide, being unpopular in a very heavily Democratic city, is hardly contrary to my thesis: As a state-wide candidate, Schumer has to try to appeal to a more ideologically diverse voter base than you find in NYC. He, perforce, must be to the 'right' of the median NYC voter.
But in the House, almost all of the Democratic caucus are from urban districts. THEY do not have to appeal to a state-wide or ideologically diverse electorate.
I know the idea of Schumer as a moderating influence on the Democratic party sounds a bit crazy, but he actually is.
So your comment wasn’t really responsive to what you replied to at all.
Or to your own first paragraph.
I dunno, man.
You definitely do not know.
"it's the Dems who are the radicals these days"
"That's so dumb only Brett could be self-deluded enough to type it."
Just check out the AOC, Bernie, and Mamdami wing and tell me that it is not Sarc who is deluded
How did "47/47/48?" win?? Nobody I know voted for him!!!
The problem is that the Democratic party seems to be increasingly out of touch with the median voter.
True. Democrats are increasingly to the right of the median voter.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/692879/independents-drive-trump-approval-second-term-low.aspx
I think the problem is that the current Democratic coalition is fairly fragile and it allows fringe voices to drive the agenda too much as a result. There are a bunch of relatively fringe social issues that end up occupying a ridiculous amount of energy by Democrats, when they should be focusing instead on their (popular) core agenda instead. I'm going to skip the relatively complicated topic of trans rights and use the recent example of San Francisco school renaming instead. The SF City Council spent an absurd amount of its time and energy trying to purge names of "controversial" figures such as George Washington (he owned slaves, so I kind of get it, but seriously?) and Abraham Lincoln (WTF???) when the city was going through a profound housing and livability crisis. It would have been a silly exercise even if everything was going great in the city, but was a travesty under the circumstances. And voters have rightly become skeptical of leadership that would focus its energy on an enterprise that is not only unpopular but also profoundly distracting.
in reality, though, the Democrats have unpopular positions on relatively minor positions, whereas Republicans have unpopular positions on the main pillars of their policy agenda: look at polling on the OBBB or Republican abortion policies as examples. Democrats should really focus on a constructive message about their approach to the economy, health care, immigration, etc. that serves as a counterweight to the unpopular MAGA status quo, and stop getting trolled into unpopular takes on social issues.
Brett — like the GOP in general — is so committed to the notion that dirt and trees, rather than people, vote that he doesn't understand the utter inconsistency — nay, nonsensicality — of the above statements.
You really don't understand my point, do you? THIS is what I mean by it being a 50-50 country! In election after election, Democrats and Republicans are almost evenly matched against each other nation-wide.
If I was talking about dirt and trees, I'd have said we were a 95-5 nation... I was talking about people.
The median Republican area is about 55% Republican. The median Democratic area is more than 65% Democratic. The result is that Republican office holders come from areas with large numbers of Democrats, and Democratic office holders come from areas with hardly any Republicans. Republicans grow up having to deal with Democrats, Democrats are use to being able to run Republicans over with a political steamroller, just ignore them.
And it handicaps them in dealing with a country where half the voters are Republicans.
"The median Republican area is about 55% Republican. The median Democratic area is more than 65% Democratic. The result is that Republican office holders come from areas with large numbers of Democrats, and Democratic office holders come from areas with hardly any Republicans. Republicans grow up having to deal with Democrats, Democrats are use to being able to run Republicans over with a political steamroller, just ignore them."
How is this possibly true if the country is 50/50 as a whole and both houses of the legislature are reasonably close to 50/50 as well?
Yes. Which directly contradicts all your blathering about "unrepresentative of the country" and inability to "appeal to median voters"! If it's a 50-50 country then they are just as good as Republicans at appealing to the median voter.
Guess we'll see if the hoi polloi prefer Marxism of Nazism...to put our respective positions at their most hyperbolic
"The hoi polloi" is redundant. It's just "hoi polloi."
The Dems need to hire more lesbians to help them figure out why men find their party so repulsive.
One might speculate that voters are angry that the Democrats have decided not to be the opposition...
Recalls the Tea Party movement, an insurrection against Republicans for meekly going along with the Democrats too much.
People are calling for the Dem to resist more.
The underlying claim — which you are repeating accurately — is incorrect, and based on people not understanding grammar. The data says that Democratic registration was down between 2020 and 2024. Not that it is down, now, in 2025.
Do you think it has reversed course in 2025?
I suspect so — after all, now Trump is president and driving voters away, whereas from 2020 through 2024 Biden was president and driving voters away — but I don't know that to be true. But regardless, the point is that the data is out of date.
Here is an article from May of this year for NJ and NJ is about as blue as you get.
"According to data from the New Jersey Division of Elections, there are 2,449,526 registered Democrats in New Jersey and 1,621,669 Republicans as of May 1. The state also has 2,418,977 unaffiliated voters and 75,113 voters registered with a third-party.
Republicans have gained 7,529 voters between March and May. Meanwhile, Democrats gained 1,202 voters over the same time period."
https://patch.com/new-jersey/westorange/gop-gaining-dems-new-jersey-primary-election-creeps-closer
The Great Leader still doesn't care about wasting taxpayer money, as long as it is on gaudy shit:
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lwyxdndlvj2n
The glod crap in the Oval Office makes ordinary kitsch look classy
I'm not sure if people noticed that Jackson, J. went full Liversidge on the Supreme Court last week:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/25a103_kh7p.pdf#page=17
Yep, the new
greatsolo dissenter.Yes, we noticed her increasingly unhinged bent that accommodates the dubious claims (read: false) in her opinions. Fortunately her diatribes don’t seem to be overly contagious, like in Stanley v. City of Sanford.
"Liversidge"
What does this mean?
Don't be so lazy.
Liversidge v Anderson
UK legal case
Liversidge v Anderson AC 206 is a landmark United Kingdom administrative law case which concerned the relationship between the courts and the state, and in particular the assistance that the judiciary should give to the executive in times of national emergency. It concerns civil liberties and the separation of powers. Both the majority and dissenting judgments in the case have been cited as persuasive precedent by various countries of the Commonwealth of Nations. Wikipedia
"Don't be so lazy."
My search led with some artist name Peter Liversidge.
As a result of the Great Leader's FAFO attitude to tarriffs, as of today you can no longer send packages in the mail from Europe to the US.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/08/23/europe-to-halt-postal-services-to-us-after-tax-deal-scrapped
Lot of French Ticklers won't be tickling anything
About the time the Friday open thread was getting stale Loki chastised me for not understanding vertical stare decisis, which I have to admit is fair. In fact I am not sure how any layman who pays attention to 2nd amendment law in the district and appeals courts in half the circuits could have any understanding about how the concept of vertical stare decisis is supposed to work.
But never mind that, on Friday we were talking about Humphrey's Executor since Seila Law in 2020.
I haven't paid much attention before January of this year, but is their Officer of the United States Trump has fired who has removal protection that has been reinstated for more than a few hours, and is still in office.
Any of the 17 Inspector Generals?
Gwinnett Wilcox of NLRB?
Cathy Harris of MSPB?
Charlotte Borrows. Or Jocelyn Samues of EEOC?
Hampton Dillinger OSC?
Alexander Hoeehn -Saric or Richard Trumpka. Mary Boyle of CPSC?
Kelly Slaughter or Alvaro Before of the FTC? HE was about specifically the FTC. This one has been on an administrative stay of the injunction by the DC Court of appeals since July 21, they seem to be taking their time.
There are others at the FEC, and probably a few more. And several have reached the SC shadow docket.
How many of those have been reinstated? I can't find a single instance. What's a layman supposed to think about all this?
Humphrey's Executor was a mistake not to be repeated?
See above.
This is Calvinball jurisprudence with a twist. Calvinball has only one rule: There are no fixed rules. We seem to have two: that one, and this Administration always wins.
Quoting PBJ, who can't even get one of the other Witches of Eastwick on her side is some argument.
She accuses others of what she's guilty of doing herself.
Tylertusta - That is pretty much the entire game the left plays
It was the correct answer to the question posed, though.
Since you put my name in your mouth (and since the point was that you were confidently lawsplainin' things to the rest of us), I will try and make what everyone else was trying to tell you more clear.
Vertical stare decisis is pretty easy to understand. If you've practiced law, you're already familiar with the SCOTUS cases that with familiar admonitions-
1. You (the lower courts) follow SCOTUS precedent until SCOTUS overrules it.
2. You (the lower courts) don't try to "read the tea leaves" on what you think SCOTUS will do.
So now we run into an issue. Here's the thing- this actually requires knowledge of, um, law-like substance. Procedure and stuff.
Cases take a long time. So early in a case, you might have a preliminary injunction. That's not the whole case! That's just the very beginning.
Imagine that a lower court issues a preliminary injunction in case A. The appellate court upholds the preliminary injunction.
So the administration appeals the PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION. And they argue that it should SCOTUS should reverse the preliminary injunction. Why?
The administration argues:
1. No standing.
2. No jurisdiction.
3. No likelihood of success on the merits for reasons 3.a, 3.b, 3.c, and 3.d.
4. It's against the public interest.
5. Unitary executive penumbras and emanations.
6. Something something Alito's flag.
So there's six possible reasons. SCOTUS, on the emergency docket (aka, the Trump Express Docket), issues an order that reverses the injunction.
There's NO REASON. What does this mean? It means that there is no preliminary injunction. The case continues. But it could be any of the possible reasons (or because there is a new "don't grant preliminary injunctions when the executive rhymes with Lump" doctrine). The lower courts literally do not know.
In fact, because of how our court systems work, and because of what we have had drilled into us (for a GOOD REASON) we are not to presume anything about long-standing precedent and good case law PRECISELY because that's what SCOTUS has told us to do!
People have tried to explain this to you. You either want to hear it, or you don't. But yes, this is why I happen to think that Justice Jackson's use of the term Calvinball is appropriate. There are rules and ways to deal with this- and it's not the lower courts that are screwing this up.
If Humphrey's Executor is dead law, then you know what? SCOTUS needs to say that. A lot of us are assuming they will cabin it - but unless and until they do, it is good law (as re-stated in Sela, et al.). That's what the lower courts have. Not the "vibes."
It's how the law wor... is SUPPOSED to work.
I appreciate you making clear what you think should be happening but isn't. But the one factor that seems to be the overriding factor in all these cases which you don't even bring up is the Supreme Court doesn't think any of these fired officers can show irreparable harm and are this not entitled to a preliminary injunction. While an administration not being able to implement its policies is irreparable (not that the Administration has to show harm, its the petitioners burden).
I think when Slaughter's case gets to SCOTUS they will finally bury Humphrey's or perhaps just say today's FTC no longer resembles the 1930's FTC.
As the DC Court of Appeals put it:
"But both the Supreme Court and this circuit have declined to extend Humphrey's Executor to agencies that are not a "mirror image" of the FTC. The NLRB's structure and powers take it outside that narrow exception."
And that likely includes the 2025 FTC.
They seem to be able to figure out what's going on even if you can't.
This is just word salad, again.
Did you read any of what I wrote? Did you understand it?
This isn't a question of "Can I try to make sense of a bunch on unreasoned opinions." Sure. In the same way that I could get the gist, before Dobbs, that Roe v. Wade (as limited by Casey et al.) was in trouble. But a lower court isn't supposed to "get the gist." A lower court is supposed to apply the law.
Lower courts are not supposed "to figure out what's going on," and there's actually cases telling them exactly that. They are supposed to apply the law.
The job of lower courts is not to predict how they think the Court might change the law now, it is to follow the law as laid down by the Court.
New York stole money from a Marine from New Hampshire who was stationed in Texas. The state has since admitted its error, but has not returned the money, and intends to charge a fee for doing so. This is another example of why the state does not deserve full faith and credit in the rest of the union.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/exclusive-marine-corps-wife-mom-blasts-blue-state-wrongful-levy-savings-left-with-pennies
RE: Fed Gov Ownership of 10% of INTC
This is a bad idea, and it should not be done.
I wasn't a fan of Prez Obama taking stakes in auto companies and banks back in 2009. And I am not a fan now of the fed gov't under POTUS Trump taking a 10% passive stake in INTC. The Fed gov't already causes enough mischief for the markets via regulation. No need to give them more opportunities for mischief.
Has it been changed to an actually passive stake? Earlier coverage I saw said that the shares would be voted in accordance with the wishes of Intel's board of directors, which works make it an even worse idea.
Not a good idea, bit better than just giving them the money outright, which was the plan under the CHIPs act.
Is it? If you think subsidies are worse than an ownership stake, you should at least show your work.
You don’t see to understand what a grant is.
It’s not a gift.
It's an interesting question, but one of the primary reasons for supporting Intel is national security.
It revolves around the concept of "Fabs" (or semiconductor foundries). And the world's Fabs are increasingly located in 3 locations. China, Taiwan, and the US. Taiwan (TSMC) is a key player in this space. Many of the US's most valuable companies (Apple, NVIDIA, AMD)...don't operate their own Fabs. They outsource the chip production to TSMC in Taiwan).
But Intel does operate its own Fabs, and in the US. It's one of the only major players that does.
The national security issue is this. Taiwan is within striking distance of China. If the US let its own fabs go out of business, and then China took Taiwan (or even simply blockaded it)...it could crash the US economy. And its defense sector. And the world's. China would be the "sole" source for semiconductor manufacturing.
A modest investment now, to avoid the US economy potentially crashing later and having a domestic supply of semiconductors is nice.
Owning 10% of intel does not address that problem.
And while the CHIPs act has many silly bits in it, it's focus on building our semiconductor fabrication capacity is good.
So no need to catastrophize and kill your credibility.
China would be the "sole" source for semiconductor manufacturing
That seems extremely wrong:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_industry#Market_share
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants
"Owning 10% of intel does not address that problem."
Sure it does. Because it's an INVESTMENT. It's money for capital expenditures in exchange for a share of the company. It's a classic way for companies to raise capital for this investment. And by having a share of the company, it's not just "free money" and allows the US to recoup its investment.
"That seems extremely wrong:"
It's not really. Taiwan absolutely dominates in market share. China and the US play second bit, with South Korea adding a little. Everyone else is basically a bit player, at most.
The grant was the investment. That's how governments invest in infrastructure.
The 10% stake is just extortion on top of it.
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I linked you to the list of market shares. It's not my area; maybe I'm missing something. But you need to read before you can engage, otherwise you're repeating past ipse dixits.
A modest investment now, to avoid the US economy potentially crashing later and having a domestic supply of semiconductors is nice.
Yes it is, but there are better - much better - ways to accomplish this.
What other ways are better? I’m not trying to call you out, just genuinely curious what other ways you think we could/should attempt to secure domestic production of something considered critical for national security.
China has proven that the state propping up industries until they dominate worldwide has been very successful for China. Although it is antithetical to Reagan and market capitalism (what hasn't been lately?) I think it is worth exploring as a means to level the playing field.
China for a considerable period benefited from a policy of helping them industrialize, on the (in retrospect mistaken) idea that a more prosperous China would be a more moderate, and hence less dangerous, China.
They also benefited to a considerable degree from the "greenwashing" of dirty industrial processes, where we'd let them handle the filthy parts, and pretend that pollution in China wasn't happening.
Finally, they've proven to be really good at espionage and subversion. That got the favorable treatment extended long after the premises behind it had proven to be nonsense.
But it was the deliberate Western policy of helping them industrialize that got the ball rolling.
Seriously, we'd have been totally screwed if they hadn't made two really big mistakes:
1. One Child, which turned out to be easier to start than stop, and kicked off their birth dearth early, so that they now have a short window before demographics cripple them.
2. Keeping the world in the dark about Covid so that it would get a good start outside China before the world reacted.
This latter not only finally got across that China could not be trusted, but also kicked off a global supply chain breakdown that threw our dependence on China into stark illumination. And the world decided that, expensive as it would be, we'd have to disentangle from them.
Our biggest obstacle in doing that is that we don't really have a free market anymore. The regulatory burden in the West is smothering.
"This latter not only finally got across that China could not be trusted, but also kicked off a global supply chain breakdown that threw our dependence on China into stark illumination."
Get your facts straight, Brett. Biden was solely responsible for the global supply chain/inflation thingy
China's command economy means it can offer steady, reliable funding to scientists and engineers that really helps them make long-term decisions.
But the price you pay for that is bad both in terms of what it means you must do to your people's freedom otherwise, and the hampering of markets as innovation engines for more applied R&D work.
Plus, all the other ancillary policies and culture that make China suck.
I'd also highlight their nondemocratic leadership stability comes with an ability to strategically plan for the long game, as seen in their really effective Belt and Road diplomacy-through-$$ initiative.
It is important as we compete with them to understand China's strengths. Do not mistake that for envy.
we don't really have a free market anymore.
It is also important we don't follow blind market worshipers and think that's the key to productivity.
I like bacon. But I prefer pork belly.
But I doubt I will get either in jail.
https://x.com/rhmaldonado1/status/1959374774452298056?t=cKypgOcv9sAbCnuP7U3GCw&s=19
The CBO has updated its projections again for the effects of Trump's tariffs on the deficit and there projections are that they will reduce the deficit by 4 Trillion over 10 years, and that includes reduced interest payments.
The biggest argument against tariffs is they will increase inflation, but I kind of wonder if that's true. It might increase prices, but it certainly doesn't increase the money supply.
But suppose Trump instead, With congressional approval_ put on a 400 m/y federal sales tax which would raise the same amount of revenue, but would not show up in CPI? What would the difference be?
Or closer to tariffs, how about it was a foreign content VAT that was taken at the register, which also would not show up in CPI, or PPI?
What's the difference between any of those and the 4 Trillion income tax increase the OBBB avoided. In terms of inflation and the economy?
Other than of course we aren't actively seeing a big effect in CPI or consumer spending yet on the tariffs, and there is no mechanism for importers or foreign manufacturers to absorb any of the costs in my alternative scenarios.
Tariffs reduce the deficit because they are a tax bringing additional money into the treasury. That tax falls on the consumers and typically in a regressive manner. The far left yells "tax the rich" and the far right yells "tax the poor". Neither is correct.
bullshit. the media presents tariffs as a bad thing for tom, dick and harry, but they're really only bad for schlomo and menachem.
How much faith can anyone put in 10 year projections?
If it came from the CBO, you should put exactly zero stock in a 10-year projection.
Everyone has figured out how to game the CBO scoring: write a bill that frontloads increased spending now but it balances out with massive taxes later. Except those massive taxes almost always never arrive.
How much faith can anyone put in 10 year projections?
Depends on the prediction, but in a generally free economy, resources become more plentiful, not less.
But this theory was built on observations and literally tested by making predictions (against 1970s gloom and doom talking heads), though Simon was uncomfortable even with a 10 year granularity, as an unlucky choice of swinging endpoints would not be indicative of the historical downward trend.
It literally allowed me to predict the Peak Oil scare was just another 1970s shortage scare retread.
Taxes are actually one of the ways to reduce inflation since it reduces the amount of money in circulation.
We hardly hear about them in this context because it's such a political lightning rod- and because taxes have their own downsides- so the government would rather outsource inflation controls to the Fed via the reserve rate.
I guess it will depend on what data this administration is going to feed you, Kaz. I suspect if the CBO wears the wrong t-shirt to work one day, they'll find themselves mortgage-frauded.
Kaz does not care to post economic naysayers.
He even excerpted the CBO to leave out the nonpositive part of their report.
Some have called him out for it; he doesn't seem to even realize he's doing it.
I'm gonna invoke another frog parable regarding Kaz: The MAGA Frog in the Pot of Hot Water
4.2% unemployment, 3% inflation, and 3% GDP growth is hot water? Its quite low on the misery index. Its only been lower two times for brief periods going back to the 50's.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=IenV
Pointing out a current snapshot is fine is kind of leaning into being a frog...
Are you not familiar with the parable?
Oh yeah, but what is actually getting worse?
Inflation rate last 6 months is lower than previous 6 months, GDP growth is 3%.
The only thing deteriorating, and only slightly, is job growth, and that is due to interest rates being high so long, which is why Powell has signalled the rate cut.
Shouldn't the water actually be getting hotter before the frog starts worrying?
Why don't you go ahead and cite the most concerning economic factor you think I am missing.
I'm not an economist, so I will not take your offer to meet your layperson vibes with those of my own. I will only point out that your 'OK so far though!' really makes it look like you don't understand the story's point.
But if you want an expert opinion on the risks here, I've linked them to you in the past. The Fed has plenty of trouble signs they've pointed out.
What did I miss?
Any tax is going to have negative follow on effects.
And any tax is going to have a deflationary effect because it takes money out of the economy.
"We estimate that the changes in tariffs, both by the United States and its trading partners, will reduce the size of the U.S. economy. That reduction in output reflects both negative and positive effects: the negative effects of higher tariffs through channels such as reduced investment and productivity, and the positive effects of additional revenues from tariffs on U.S. imports, which would reduce federal borrowing and increase the funds available for private investment.
The increases in tariffs will make consumer goods and capital goods (the physical assets that businesses use to produce goods and services) more expensive, which will reduce the purchasing power of U.S. consumers and businesses. Those increases in costs will put temporary upward pressure on inflation."
But that's true of any tax increase, including the one the OBBB avoided, its also true of no tax increase and higher deficits.
You aren't saying we don't need the revenue are you?
"The biggest argument against tariffs is they will increase inflation, but I kind of wonder if that's true. It might increase prices, but it certainly doesn't increase the money supply."
I guess if you worship at the altar of the Austrian School and don't actually pay attention to the real world, you might think the money supply thing was more important than the actual increase in prices.
To take on your broader set of questions, though: you're confused. VATs generally *are* included in CPI numbers, just as sales taxes are included in the US computations:
Trump's tariffs are additionally problematic in two ways, though:
1) Tariffs distort incentives in the economy, and the Trump tariffs do this in particularly dumb ways. We've already talked in previous weeks about the fact that Trump's tariffs often tax parts more than they do finished goods, so they actually hurt domestic producers more than foreign manufacturers. But also, since he's trying to use them as a tool of foreign relations versus economic policy much of the time, we end up with bizarre results like the fact we currently have a higher tariff on Brazil (a country that we have a trade surplus with!) than on China, despite the fact that one of Trump's original rationales for the tariffs was to reduce our dependence on China and bring our overall balance of trade in line.
2) VATs are constructed such that they don't "double dip" and charge people consumption taxes multiple times. Trump's tariffs layer on additional taxes on goods on top of existing consumption taxes, making them even more regressive (and inflationary as a result, since poorer people don't have the option to invest versus spend when prices go higher).
No. Their projection is if the tariffs had no other effects on the economy it would reduce the deficit by $4T. (CBO is often tasked by members of Congress to come up with projections based on various hypotheticals that nobody believes are realistic.)
Tariffs are economy-distorting, with (as Trump illustrates better than any textbook could) the government picking winners and losers.
(Oh, and for the record, "a 400 m/y federal sales tax" would not in fact "raise the same amount of revenue." You kind of misplaced 3 decimal places.)
Yeah the millions and billions and trillions just run together after a while.
Kaz is willing to correct minor typographic errors apparently, but not any of the substantive ones.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/austin-woman-sentenced-25-year-social-security-scam
This undercuts the argument people make that the government's robust checks, including in-person visits, mean that Social Security records of old people's still-living status should be trusted.
How so? It seems that the scam was discovered by the government's robust checks.
It took the government 25 years to detect the scam, presumably until that June 2024 visit to an SSA office. That's not a sign of robust checks.
So . . . do you want more robust checks or less?
I want checks that work, not arguments that merely pretend they do. You clearly prefer the latter.
Wow, hot take!
That was sarcasm, baby. We all want checks that work.
More evidence for the hypothesis that conservatives prefer anecdote, liberals prefer statistics.
There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Ah, Michael P. The king of policy-by-anecdote.
It doesn't undercut anything.
You guys just love your anecdotes.
Here's a clue, Michael: No system is perfect. Something can always slip through. Finding such a case is no proof at all that the system is useless. In fact, your argument is idiotic.
Agree that no system is perfect and checks need to balance their burden with efficacy.
However when we become aware of an incident, or anecdote if you prefer, that illustrates how those checks have consistently failed in this case for 25 years, we need to systematically re-examine those checks and investigate if others have likewise thwarted the checks. While It’s not a systemwide indictment of Social Security, it is a worrying occurrence that shouldn’t be ignored.
For all you know, there are plenty of checks in place and only a very few such instances are missed -sufficiently few that it's not worth putting any more effort in than is already being done.
That's why anecdote doesn't cut it.
For all you know, there are plenty of checks in place - and some people have figured out how to bypass them for years.
Anecdotes can very useful in exposing a loophole or systematic weakness. I’m not saying the sky is falling nor that we should scrap the current verification systems. I am saying it would be irresponsible not to understand how this particular fraud got through, how many others are getting through the same way, and adjusting or adding checks to stop it going forward.
She only got a year in jail?
https://www.who.int/news/item/22-08-2025-famine-confirmed-for-first-time-in-gaza
I didn't think it was possible, but Israel did it! It unseated Iran as the penultimate evil in the world by intentionally allowing millions of people to starve! Not even Iran is so callous and indifferent to fellow humans.
Only North Korea remains. Can Israel get evil enough to become the world's most notorious pariah state? I didn't think it would get this far, so I guess anything's possible!
I was wondering what this was all about, Israel must be sending all of Gaza's food to Ukraine
"I sincerely thank President of Israel @Isaac_Herzog for his thoughtful congratulations on Ukraine’s Independence Day, as well as for the words of solidarity from you and the people of Israel....
First Lady Olena and I are particularly grateful to your wife, Michal, for her support of Ukrainian children and families."
Volkdymyr Zelenskyy
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1959886531843313969?t=97MlS6QjnqRsec_I-hD7Qg&s=19
Saying nice things about Israel has the dual benefit of making it more likely that Israel will sell weapons to Ukraine and making it more likely that the US will stop short of trying to hand over chunks of Ukrainian territory to the Russians. So why do you think this message is surprising? Zelenskyy posted a long list of thank you notes for the congratulations he received on Ukraine's independence day.
Herzog, the leader of the opposition against Likud? What a mystery!
Anyhoo, this is not a good list to be on.
https://www.worlddata.info/pariahstates.php
Why are you blaming Israel for food shortages caused by Hamas looting aid trucks?
(That's a rhetorical question. We know why you're doing it.)
Israel is responsible for the wellbeing of the Palestinians and has been since 1967. They could prioritize keeping them from starving if they wanted to.
At this point, some asshole around here would normally rant about you denying people their agency, but he's too much of an antisemitic partisan hack to apply his standards to his own side.
What are you talking about? Israel is denying Palestinians their agency by occupying them for over half a century. But as occupiers, they have a responsibility to, at a bare minimum, keep them from dying.
They're not inmates in a prison, no matter how much you want to pretend they are.
Um, what?
https://people.howstuffworks.com/rules-of-war4.htm
So why isn't Ham-Ass doing any of that stuff?
The antisemites don't want to admit which group actually has Palestine's "people under its control".
You might as well do it properly for a legal blog and cite the actual law. It's art. 55 of the 4th Geneva Convention: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949/article-55?activeTab=1949GCs-APs-and-commentaries
Randal - you quoted international law correctly - yet you are applying the law to imaginary facts.
Denying that the West Bank and Gaza are occupied by Israel is just dumb.
Randal - Again you are applying the law to a delusional / imaginary facts. you are too delusional to understand the actual facts
Didn’t you post that same story a week ago and get roundly criticized for it not establishing what you said?
Now the headline doesn’t even agree with what you claim.
Are you like unable to learn?
From Michael's link.
"Aid Trucks Looted: Data from the United Nations Office for Project Services (UNOPS) showed that between May 19 and August 5, more than 2,600 trucks carrying humanitarian aid crossed from Israel into Gaza. However, only 300 of these trucks reached their intended destinations in Gaza during that period, with some 2,309 trucks being “intercepted” and looted along their delivery routes"
Hey, but Sarcastr0 lying to attack Israel? What else is new. There's a work for it...anti something.
https://reason.com/volokh/2025/08/20/wednesday-open-thread-30/?comments=true#comment-11169956
hobie 5 days ago
"Heh...according to the data, all the pallets were successfully offloaded to their respective relief organizations. It takes a special kind of belief system to make that read 90% were taken by terrorists. Young, master Publius has such a belief system"
From there it's Jazzizhep backing down on claim after claim until he's accusing: 'terrorists and hungry groups.' Not Hamas. (because 'Palestinian terrorists' are now a new group he's pushing.)
ThePublius did not return after he dropped that post last Wed.
But here he is again!
I'd say that's bad form.
And then it was pointed out to Hobie (In the very next comment!) that they were subsequently hijacked on their way to the end consumers.
I mean, you were there, did you only read Hobie's comment, and not the corrections to it?
Hijacked by "hungry groups?"
Nowhere does it say Hamas, I think is the point. Maybe it's Hamas. Maybe it's regular dads with starving kids. Either way, Pichael linked an article that goes out of its way to disavow his claim.
It doesn't disavow my claim at all.
How many groups of "well-armed Palestinians" are there running the Gaza Strip?
That's all editorializing. The actual cited statistics say
Intercepted either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully armed actors, during transit in Gaza
Or perhaps by pissed-off hungry people, is my bet.
No, they specifically say high jackers and hungry people. They didn’t say high jacking hungry people.
High jackers take by force (terrorism). Looters just take.
When people jump together two very different things, it's usually because they don't want to admit their relative proportions.
TP's thesis: "food shortages caused by Hamas looting aid trucks"
You lot have gone far afield in the attempt to find defensible ground.
It’s not a thesis. It’s what the UN report says. You would see that if you bothered to actually check my links.
You had conceded it was 'hungry people and forcefully armed actors.'
That is not the same as Hamas. I don't recall the UN report citing Hamas either.
Seems you need to have a discussion with yourself from 2 hours ago about self-consistency.
I have never used the term “forcibly armed actors.” I most certainly didn’t concede it. If I’m wrong show me the quote—not your feelz of what I said. Again, your use of quotes is astonishingly appalling.
Again, your only argument is semantical—not substance. Did I use terrorist, or high jackers, or armed actors (I have never used that term)? As if it makes any difference to the UN report that almost 90% of aid doesn’t reach its destination.
You want to claim that there are other terrorist groups and I need to prove it was Hamas? You are proffering the opposite. Show me any other terrorist group in Gaza to prove terrorists in Gaza are not just Hamas.
You say Hamas, and then say not Hamas.
That's not semantics, that's you having a problem with what I think is a motte and bailey attempt but it's so badly executed I cannot be sure.
Yes what me and Publius got wrong is saying terrorist are doing the high jacking (which the UN distinguishes from hungry people and looting), and that Hamas, as opposed to Boko Haram, are doing the high jacking.
Go ahead and ignore the FACT, as my many links confirm, almost 90% of cargo is not reaching its destination in order to argue semantics.
The reason it matters, Jazzi, is that if the trucks are being stopped by "peaceful hungry people" before they get to their formal destination then... so? Maybe not ideal from an efficiency perspective but the food is getting to people who need it.
The important thing is people getting fed, not trucks maintaining schedules.
And then Hobie further said, well, if they never arrived, where did they go? Nothing in the article could point to who took them and when.
Even if you ignore what the article said, you could have used the links, as I did, to find out. You thought you had a gotcha and went with it.
The article numbers were all correct. There should have been better links, but I found it. You could have as well with a more inquisitive intellect,
Your initial argument was the numbers were false. Now it’s “the article didn’t say what happened to the supplies.” The article did. It said Hamas. The UN didn’t say Hamas. The UN said high jackers and hungry people.
Now I bet you pick up sarc’s argument the terrorists in Gaza aren’t Hamas.
I didn’t back down from shit and used links and told you how to use them. “Highjackings and hungry groups” is UN’s language. I guess I inferred terrorists did the highjackings. The shame. Publius inferred the terrorists were Hamas. I guess we can’t prove it was Hamas because they didn’t break down whether it was Hamas or the KKK.
The latest numbers are a little better—not by much.
Total pallets offloaded in Gaza which includes high jackings, looters and pallets that reach their destination 78k
Now pallets that actually reached their destinations.
You want to die on the hill claiming terrorists are not doing the high jacking and Hamas are not the terrorists go right ahead. Doesn’t change the fact that almost 90% of cargo isn’t reaching its destination. Typical pound the table bullshit.
If semantics is your only retort, you lost. Fact; almost 90% of cargo is not reaching its destination because of high jackings and looting.
It’s you who didn’t respond to facts linked to the UN page. Who backed down?
Is there a reason you keep writing "high jacking" rather than "hijacking"?
Citing hobie? That is certainly a choice.
Lathrop not available?
And I proved the deniers wrong with links. He linked to wrong tab in the report. I linked to the correct one. If you didn’t read it the first time, I have no desire to do the math, again. Or go through the trouble of creating links., again
What you did was backpedal over and over again while never admitting you were wrong.
And here you are as though last week didn’t happen.
I’d encourage you to review how many revisions you had to do last week.
No I didn’t. Funny how you only respond to this comment. I admitted I used the term terrorists instead of high jackers, The article and Plubius used Hamas. That’s the only thing I backed down from.
I stood by my numbers. I take that back. I stood by UN’s numbers with links.
Again, if you think using “terrorists” instead of “high jackers” is a worthy hill to die on, be my guest.
It’s amazing how you want to continue to argue over semantics while completely ignoring almost 90% of aid is not reaching its destination. Which, I believe, is the real problem here. I could be wrong though—just like using terrorists instead of high jackers.
No, you revised still further to allow the set included hungry people.
Which seems a pretty telling concession.
No I didn’t. Not once did I mention high jackers (terrorists) without mentioning hungry people or looters. Maybe you have me confused with Publius. Check for yourself and then profusely apologize for being such a dick with all the “Jazz backed down” personal attack shit.
Use your own link to go back since you didn’t use it to start with. I am waiting with bated breath.
And as with every post on the topic; I repeat, almost 90% of aid is not reaching its destination. Links and numbers can be found in my posts.
Here are the arguments I've seen you mak:
-Hungry people who stop a truck must be armed
-Armed people who stop trucks are all terrorists
-Terrorists are the same as Hamas in the UN report.
None of these seem like legitimate assumptions without doing a lot more work.
If that’s what I said use my effing words in a quote, not your feelz of what I said.
1) I always mentioned hungry people along with high jackers. If you inferred that meant hungry people were armed, that’s on you cupcake. Show me a quote otherwise.
2) Again arguing the semantical difference between people terrorizing UN aid workers with guns to steal food isn’t exactly terrorism. Or maybe you think it’s a step too far to assume that people being held at gun point aren’t afraid? It’s the UN that differentiates between high jackers and hungry people. I never said otherwise. Show me a quote.
3) Arguing something I never said. Show me the quote.
Now, I have said different things today mocking the idea that there are other terrorists groups operating in Gaza like the KKK and Boko Haram. That has nothing to do with what I said a few days ago and “backing down.”
As I figured. You are wrong in every instance and can’t prove it, but blame me for your incompetence. If I said those things give me the quote. If you need help copy and pasting or using quotation marks, let me know. I will help you.
I want to honestly and seriously thank you, Sarcastr0. After I reread all my post from the other day I realized I didn’t even say terrorists instead of high jackers.
I acknowledged a mistake I never made. I took your, or hobie’s, word I made a mistake when I didn’t. That concession led to your days long crusade that I caved.
I foolishly accepted a comment as being factual when it was just you guys imagination. At the time I thought it was such a meaningless mistake (terrorist vs high jacker), and something I might do, I accepted it.
My God, you have literally gotten nothing correct regarding my comments. NOTHING!!!! You read what you wanted to read. You believe what you wanted to believe. Your evidence is what you want your evidence to be. You can’t even quote my words.
You are, In practice and in fact, an unserious person.
You're doing a lot of work to conflate terrorists with hungry people.
It's driving inconsistent langauge and wandering goalposts.
It's also a pretty terrible cause to pick up - defending starving people because you're going to call every stopped food truck a Hamas success story.
You're doing a ton of work to rationalize killing people through starvation. Stalin would be pleased.
Food and hunger seem to be a special fetish of MAGA. I doubt you'll get any sympathy from them on this front.
"...by intentionally allowing millions of people to starve! "
So now I guess the 1.8 million residents of Gaza have all been starved to death.
Did you not notice yourself typing "to death" just now?
You guys are such weirdos! I suppose that's why I keep coming back. What forms of sillybrain will I witness on this week's episode of MAGA INVADES VOLOKH?
Point taken, however there are not millions of Gazanians starving (to death or otherwise).
only people in Gaza starving are Jews
"intentionally allowing millions of people to starve"
You brought the islamofascist propaganda and the lies of the NYT
Oh, did the Times buy the World Health Organization? I didn't know.
No need to, "All the news that fits the script, we print".
Randal 7 hours ago
https://www.who.int/news/item/22-08-2025-famine-confirmed-for-first-time-in-gaza
I didn't think it was possible, but Israel did it! It unseated Iran as the penultimate evil in the world by intentionally allowing millions of people to starve!"
Martin - not only are you easily fooled - you are actively promoting BS that you should know is false.
Three field goals from over 60 yards in NFL preseason action this weekend. Last year there was a record 195 field goals made from over 50 yards out. It’s going to be a kicker’s season.
Long field goals are a much less interesting possibility than a drop kick.
https://www.neworleanssaints.com/video/brees-attempts-dropkick-6884018
For reference, this is how England won the rugby world cup in 2003: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/omQU414NRXc
As usual Martin can’t get anything correct. Even when he is talking about football (American).
A drop kick in the NFL is a punt. In no universe is a punt more interesting than a 60 yd field goal.
It’s a seldom used tactic, but that doesn’t make it interesting.
A drop kick is a score if you aim it between the posts. Which is indeed rare in American football (one successful attempt since 1941), but would be pretty interesting if teams used it more, exactly because you do it during play rather than after a 2-minute commercial break.
Ok, I didn’t know a drop kick could be used to score an extra point.
As usual MartinJazz can’t get anything correct. Even when he is talking about football (American).I am genuinely embarrassed a European knew something about American football I didn’t. Like looking up how to tie a hangman’s noose embarrassed.
Yes, it would be more interesting than a typical extra point.
Unfortunately, you are still going to get the commercial break. They review all touchdowns.
You can do a drop kick for a 3 point field goal during regular play.
Also, a dropkick a punt. On a dropkick, the ball has to hit the ground before it is kicked -- a punt is kicked right out of the air.
I fail to see what this has to do with the Epstein Files.
They've already ruined Pro Foo-bawl turning the Kick off into a Fag-Foo-bawl Line Dance, now they're going to stop measuring first downs with the chains, using that ridiculous "Hawkeye" device they use for Pro Tennis line calls (and don't even get me started on how they ruined Pro Tennis when they let players use anything for a Raquet) At least we still have College Foo-bawl, and next year SEC adds a 9th conference game, making the other Conferences even less Relevant (Yes, I know, Ohio State, Clemson, they're just SEC teams in disguise)
Frank
I have no statistics but I believe the greater use of the 50+ field goal kick is related to closer games. You don't go the long kick till you need to do so and that is at the end of close games.
I respectfully disagree. More kickers are more reliably hitting 50+ yard kicks. Why punt when you can put 3 points on the board. Kicks are far more successful than fourth downs and there is no guarantee a team scores a touchdown if they go for it. Even if they convert a fourth down, more often than not they kick a field goal anyway. Why risk three points when a higher risk fourth down conversion results in three points?
I may not like it, but that’s analytics.
I get you are not entirely wrong as there are numerous instances in the past where a coach might go for a fourth and three at the 35 instead of a 52 yard field goal. Now they take a 52 yarder with minimal hesitation. Three points keeps the game closer than seven points.
It is extremely hard in today’s NFL to pass up points in hopes you get more points.
While I was away, the Supreme Court of Japan issued an opinion: can the prosecutor prevent the defendant's mom from interviewing the defendant (charged with attempted voyeurism) because he is pleading not guilty? Answer: probably not, vacated and remanded.
So many pretrial decisions are dependent on whether the defendant pled guilty or not - not the seriousness of alleged offense. Maybe because the defendant cannot be punished for destroying inculpatory evidence.
Is there a good source to read about the rationale behind "the defendant cannot be punished for destroying inculpatory evidence"? My impression is that the Japanese legal system is usually quite strict with suspects, so I'm curious why that rule is there.
Well, according to Google's AI overview, it's because in Japan the right against self-incrimination is considered to imply that you have no duty to preserve self-incriminating evidence.
Sure, but the legal systems I know better draw a line between not having a duty to preserve evidence and having a duty to not intentionally destroy it.
And apparently Japan's does not.
AJS's original comment implied as much, and I trust that to be accurate more than some Google AI summary. I was asking why Japan's legal system differs from western ones in that respect. Maybe it's just a difference in legal tradition, maybe there's some considered reason, or maybe it's something else: I'm curious why it differs, not whether it really does.
When will they learn? School officials caught once again believing 1A is currently interpreted as “…shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech unless the speech is religious in nature
At least they caved before a lawsuit
Did you just read the Establishment Clause out of the Constitution, making the 1A only about speech?
That seems to be the current Republican understanding of the 1st Amendment, yes. There's a part about free speech and a part about free exercise of religion, but nothing about the establishment of a religion, apparently.
A students speech isn’t establishment if they are allowing other students speech.
As I told Sarc, there is a thing called viewpoint discrimination. It’s real.
You can’t allow expressive speech and say “except for religious speech.” It’s not that hard to grasp if you try a little bit,
A students speech isn’t establishment.
Sorry you didn’t know, but you can’t put up a student bulletin board for announcements and messages by students and then say “except for religious announcements or messages.”
I think that called is viewpoint discrimination. Maybe you have heard of it? It’s been around a while now.
You're the one that came in with an analysis of displaying bible verses that doesn't include any Establishment Clause analysis.
Establishment jurisprudence is full of exceptions and exceptions to exceptions. While disallowing all religious speech is not allowed, pretending there's no additional analysis needed is doing the law a disservice, even if you want to argue for school prayer to be legal.
The Bible verses are a form expressive speech from the student. When the school is allowing expressive speech in some format, the school can’t discriminate on viewpoint. What don’t you get?
Muslims can express their speech, Jews can express their speech, atheistic anti-semites ( preferred group) can express their speech. The school district can’t decide one, or some, or all of the speech is not allowed because they don’t express what the school desires.
My God, you anti-religious zealots are thick and have zero understanding of constitutional law. If you did have a modicum of understanding, you would acknowledge the decades of precedents.
Well, the Establishment Clause analysis isn't just skipped because there's a viewpoint involved.
I'm not saying the endorsement (or whatever test they use these days) analysis would come out against this, I'm saying you need to at least do the analysis.
I'm not an anti-religious zealot. I'm a Unitarian, and believe in God. You assume a motive for disagreeing with you I do not have.
1A is currently interpreted as “…shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech unless the speech is religious in nature
Schools are allowed to regulate the speech of students in a variety of ways. For instance, one SCOTUS case upheld a prohibition of holding up a banner promoting illegal drug use.
The school is allowed to limit what students use to decorate their public school parking spots. I can't tell exactly the reason for the original policy from a news article. It is far from clear from the article that all the school regulated was religious speech.
For instance, a profane design might be barred as unsuitable for a high school setting.
The general concern in cases like this tends to be twofold. (1) Assumed governmental endorsement (2) if we let you, Satanists or something will come next. That second one apparently was present here according to one article I found.
Schools also might generally not want anything divisive to be included in school parking spots. We are not exactly talking traditional public forums here.
Anyway, a general libertarian rule (up to a point -- it's still a school) is fine & schools are not just concerned about religious speech. And, religious speech has its own First Amendment concerns, including Establishment Clause issues. (Not that the Supreme Court is too concerned about that part these days.)
Huh?
Yes schools are allowed to regulate speech—mostly on disruptive, vulgar, obstructive and obscene grounds. To say they are allowed to discriminate against religious speech shows a severe lack of understanding of precedent.
Schools can absolutely bar putting messages on parking spaces. That is not the issue. The issue is they allowed messaging on parking spaces and determined some messages, of a religious nature, were not allowed. Only an absolute partisan would say free speech only applies to my tribe. Is that you?
What don’t you understand?
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You said this, and I quoted you saying it.
School officials caught once again believing 1A is currently interpreted as “…shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech unless the speech is religious in nature
The "unless" is wrong. The school also regulated religious speech in this case. It was among the various ways the school regulated speech. You grant in your reply that schools regulate speech in various ways.
I offered possibilities why they were concerned with the speech here. I agreed it was correct to allow the speech.
In some cases, schools are correct to not endorse religious speech including making "Jesus is Our Lord" their school motto. So, was noted in another comment, it can get complicated.
Another interesting decision, this time from the Tokyo District Court - involving international jurisdiction and DMCA takedowns. Google loses on jurisdictional issue, because their DMCA counternotice form only established non-exclusive jurisdiction (otherwise the plaintiff would have had to sue in NDCA). They win on the interpretation of 512(g)(2) (that Google is not obligated to restore content subject to wrong takedown request).
does "interesting" have a different meaning in Japanese?
He forgot to throw in a bunch of randomly capitalized words and punctuation, and nearly incomprehensible schoolyard “jokes”. Frank is operating on the level of Dax Sheppard in Idiocracy.
An amusing new job title: fare engagement representative. Transit cops who only go after fare evaders. A program built around equity: the reps have access to Google Translate.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/08/22/mbta-fare-program-looks-to-capture-bandits-who-evade-payment-much-more-to-do/
I haven't seen the latest numbers for the MBTA. Typically fare cover half or less of a transit agency's operating expenses. In Massachusetts statewide taxes pay the rest (sales tax, fuel tax, and federal aid).
I missed a revenue source: there is also an assessment paid by the towns served by the MBTA.
I'd like to run an experiment: Boston pays the operating cost of the MBTA within city limits in return for free fares. I think what Boston really wants is for non-residents to pay for residents to ride for free.
Taxation without representation?
Seems like it could be part of the experiment where all of the tax revenue Boston generates only gets spent in Boston?
In the newest Never Educate Anyone 2025 handbook (HT Dr. Ed) in the section “International Holocaust Remembrance Day” they have completely scrubbed “Jews” and replaced with “different faiths.”
It took a little research, but I have to agree with this change. Hitler not only tried to exterminate the Jews, he tried to eliminate Jews. He also went after the Jews, and, of course, Jews. Lastly, he went after the Jews, Jews, Jews, and Jews.
And since we need to include trans into everything, Hitler tried to commit genocide against “gender identification.” Maybe he did, but just how many trans were sent to gas chambers? Millions? Hundreds of thousands? Tens of thousands? Thousands? Hundreds? A few dozen? I get there were probably thousands of gays, but trans?
Think on that. Let’s mention gender identification, but not Jews. Disgusting!!
Hey, didn't forget the 1700 or so Jehovah's Witnesses who were murdered by the Nazis. (Along with a bunch of Slavs, Russian POWs, and various other groups not targeted based on religion.)
You're going to argue the Holocaust was only against Jews?!
I'm not saying the watering down in the handbook is how I'd put it, but you're straight rewriting history.
Check out the Roma, for instance.
Well, obviously it wasn't only against Jews, but it seems silly to pretend that they didn't get higher priority.
Jews were the largest single group, and by several orders of magnitude the largest religiously targeted group. According to Wikipedia, "people with disabilities" (~270k) and Freemasons (~80k) were the most numerous non-religious, non-ethnic murder victims.
Read my second paragraph.
And read Jazzizhep‘s second paragraph.
I’m not the one that needs correction here.
The term "Holocaust" to describe genocide was originally specifically applied to the Nazi genocide against Jews - by IIRC Elie Wiesel. Other genocides - Roma, Kurds, etc. - are simply called genocides, unless the person so broadening the term would rather people not consider Jews as specifically identifiable victims of the Nazis.
That would not be a bad way to feature the whole evil eugenics program, talking about the y sets the Holocaust is defined to include. Go into the historiographical issues and need for critical thinking.
I don’t think there is danger of eliding how specifically focused on Jews were from the very beginning of the Nazi Party if we teach the various definitions used today.
I won't argue with people who use "Holocaust" in the narrow sense. I myself used "murder" to cover the general case. (Killing 1700 JWs is a terrible crime against humanity, but I would want some more details before I call it a genocide even under the "or in part" phrase.) I think your real beef should be with the NEA.
There were people of all faiths that Hitler killed. What faith besides Judaism did he try to exterminate? There is a difference.
I didn’t comment on eugenics because eugenics wasn’t based on one’s faith.
Judaism isn't solely a faith either. Secular Jews are still Jews.
The Romani were as targeted, and as much of an ethnic group as the Jews.
It doesn't minimize the evil being done to the Jews in the Holocaust to insist they were the only ones targeted.
It's pretty problematic to not even mention the Jews in the context of the Holocaust. As SRG2 notes below, the origin of the term is specifically about the genocide of the Jews by the Nazis. It's fine and good to acknowledge that the atrocities that the Nazis committed against other people as well, but not even mentioning the Jews in a statement about Holocaust remembrance feels rather "all lives matter"-y.
This was referenced before.
The United Nations General Assembly designated January 27—the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau—as International Holocaust Remembrance Day, a time to remember the six million Jewish victims of the Holocaust and the millions of other victims of Nazi persecution.
The concern seems to be that "Jews" was not specifically cited in the description. That seems to be a mistake, though the ultimate point here should be the materials taught overall.
The NEA responded to criticism here:
https://www.nea.org/about-nea/media-center/press-releases/statement-nea-handbook
But whatever "originally" was used, International Holocaust Remembrance Day has a wider concern & honoring that day would cover that ground.
https://www.ushmm.org/remember/international-holocaust-remembrance-day
Excluding MAGA who - and let's just drop all the pretexts - has been relishing another civil war to reestablish a white nation (note I didn't say white 'Christian' nation, because a) they don't believe in Christ anyway and, b) Christ would crucify himself if he saw all this horseshit), I think the reason our slide into authoritarianism hasn't drawn a pitchfork mob sacking the White House already is because I think all us normies are sort of looking at it like a tryst. We know it is wrong. We know it is naughty. But it's a little exciting. Can't we just dip our toe in the water? Just for a few seconds to see what it's like? We can always get that horse back in the barn. What's the worst that can happen?
Is this your outline for a novel? It certainly is not non-fiction.
How long will these blog authors tolerate some Euro-fag shitting up this board with his who-gives-a-shit-shithole lefty/euro politics?
Not sure who you're talking about
Presumably until US democracy and the rule of law are restored. If you prefer to avoid inconvenient truths, there are several cable news channels you can watch.
Lex is still wondering what that "Mute User" button on every post does, apparently.
I don’t trust anyone with Latin names. Go back to Europe, loser.
From the "burying the lead" deparment:
The Guardian is outraged that something bad happened to a non-white woman. Her baby was taken away even though she is not white.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/23/protests-as-newborn-removed-from-greenlandic-mother-after-parenting-competence-tests
The real story, which I hadn't been following, is Denmark has a parental competency test. The mother was a victim of sexual abuse. Therefore, she had to prove she was fit to raise a child. She failed the test.
Apparently there is some disagreement about whether she is legally Greenlandic, which would exempt her from parental competency testing. Activists recently persuaded the government that tests are racist.
Wouldn’t this be a better world if people who shouldn’t have children didn’t?
I mean that from a personal responsibility perspective—not a govt mandate perspective.
The Guardian is outraged that something bad happened to a non-white woman. Her baby was taken away even though she is not white.
Way to turn this into a story about white oppression, weirdo.
It's almost as if JFC doesn't know the history of taking indigenous children away from their parents.
I’m outraged it happened to anybody. I would not be more outraged if it happened to a white person, That would be racist.
It's so awful as described that I have to wonder if the Guardian left something out. Having a parental competency test is bad enough by itself. The reason for failure given in the article is much worse.
Questions for anyone who might know more:
(a) Is this test applied in general to all new parents, or does something trigger it?
(b) Was there some other reason to question the mom's fitness that the article left out? The Guardian usually doesn't fabricate facts but they're not above only telling one side of the story.
Want a list of words people like Sarcastr0, loki, hobie, or Queenie won't be uttering soon?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/think-tank-urges-dems-drop-these-45-terms-turn-normies
lol, Sarcastr0's comments are gonna be mostly blank
I have to dispute the inclusion of "stakeholders" in that list. I use it a fair bit in security contexts, because there are a lot of people involved with various roles, and their priorities and sometimes even objectives differ based on those roles. A systems engineer won't have the same perspective or interests as a contractor's security officer or a customer's project manager or an approving officer's representative. Stakeholders seems like the best word to reflect that (dare I say it?) diversity.
Yeah, but that's exactly why the word isn't very useful. Sending out a memo telling us to "prioritize the interests of the stakeholders" is useless because it's a laundry list of conflicting things.
I believe it's one of those words writers use when they have to write something but haven't completely worked out the details of what they want to say.
I think a lot of you are going to have problems with Overton Window.
The one I don't get is Postmodernism. Huh? I guess I'm missing some connotation or current usage? I just thought it meant "whatever Quentin's getting up to."
Who is "you" in "a lot of you"? This is a list from a leftie, written as advice for fellow lefties about where the Overton window actually is.
This might be your most self-defeating post of all time.
Truly incredible.
It's about as far as one can get from that without actually being published by Newsmax. It is a list from a centrist, written as advice for fellow centrists. Third Way are the people that lefties hate.
The repeated gloating over this list is kind of interesting to me. Like, what is it that you’re so happy about?
Many of the words on this list have not appeared in constituent-facing communication from democratic politicians going back to at least 2010. Other terms, for example cultural appropriation and deadnaming, are used more often— and in some cases exclusively— by Republicans.
https://dcinboxinsights.substack.com/p/was-it-something-the-democrats-said?
I'm happy to see where the Overton Window is and that it's moving in the right direction. Away from Lefty freakary and back to normalcy.
“Overton window.”
Making certain terms politically toxic is not shifting the Overton window if you’re not shifting people’s opinions about the underlying ideas.
The Democrat messaging monitors changing their language suggests people's opinions have already shifted on the underlying ideas.
Was that really lost on you?
“Democrat messaging monitors changing their language”
The third way people are not “Democrat[s]”
As I pointed out above, since 2010, many of these terms are rarely or never used in constituent-facing communications from Democratic politicians. So what is there to change from terms that were never or rarely used? Others are used more often by Republicans. So it’s not really a Democratic messaging thing. The whole thrust of the original piece seemed to be “Democrats should stop using words Republicans falsely accuse them of using.”
Now, if what you’re really crowing about is people like Chris Rufo having an ability to make certain terms politically toxic, that’s a different story.
“Woke” is a perfect example of this. Woke is now bad. Toxic. No politician would now ever describe themselves as “woke” regardless of their underlying substantive views. But what is woke? Don— although not “right about everything”— was indeed right about this when he said:
“I don’t like the term ‘woke’ because I hear, ‘Woke, woke, woke.’ It’s just a term they use, half the people can’t even define it, they don’t know what it is,”
So when you say that this bogus thirdway BS is indicative of a larger shift in public opinion, that seems like an assertion that’s not really supported by this.
“Deadnaming” is another great example here. According to my link, only used once and by a republican. It may or may not be a term to avoid now for politicians— but that’s just a term. Unless you have polling to the contrary, I think most decent Americans would agree with the proposition that we should simply refer to people by the name they prefer to be referred to as. Asshole 5th circuit judges excepted, of course.
Mostly a good list except for the following:
Postmodernism - used more by conservatives against progressives than by progressives to describe themselves.
Stakeholders - I don't like it but it doesn't have much political leaning. It's more a corporate thing.
In case you missed this comment to Somin's Friday post re: Intel.
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Partial list; there are more than this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_the_United_States
List of partially or wholly federally owned enterprises
• Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC)[1]
• Community Development Financial Institutions Fund[2]
• Corporation for National and Community Service (AmeriCorps)[2]
• Export-Import Bank of the United States[3]
• Federal Agricultural Mortgage Corporation[4]
• Federal Crop Insurance Corporation (FCIC)
• Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC)
• Federal Farm Credit Banks Funding Corporation
• Federal Financing Bank (FFB)[5]
• Federal Home Loan Banks[6]
• Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac)
• Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae)
• Federal Prison Industries (UNICOR)[7]
• The Financing Corporation
• Government National Mortgage Association (Ginnie Mae)[8]
• Great Lakes St. Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation
• Intel Corporation
• Legal Services Corporation[9]
• Millennium Challenge Corporation (MCC)
• National Cooperative Bank[10]
• National Corporation for Housing Partnerships (NCHP); Washington, D.C.
• National Credit Union Administration Central Liquidity Facility (CLF)
• National Endowment for Democracy[11]
• National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP)
• National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak)
• Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation[12]
• Overseas Private Investment Corporation
• Pennsylvania Avenue Development Corporation
• Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation
• Presidio Trust[13]
• Resolution Funding Corporation[13]
• Rural Telephone Bank
• Saint Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation
• Securities Investor Protection Corporation[14]
• Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA)
• U.S. International Development Finance Corporation
• United States African Development Foundation
• United States Enrichment Corporation
• United States Postal Service[13]
So... you're a socialist now? That was easy.
If Trump is a (national) socialist, so are half the commenters on this blog...
I thought Trump and company were fascists.
I thought Trump and company were fascists.
Did you not know what party he was referring to with "(national) socialist"? I see people on your side pointing this out all the fucking time. And not understanding or deliberately misconstruing how and why that party used that word in their name.
Godwin came early this week.
You get free Dental Care in Holland??
Frank
Coming from someone whose grandparents or great grandparents were likely NSB your accusation of anyone else being a national socialist sucks.
No, it proves you chicken Littles who think it’s the end of democracy as we know it are lying or incredibly stupid.
I know you must feel compelled to believe the end is nigh because..,Trump. Get some perspective.
"...are lying or incredibly stupid."
Both?
Once again, this is kind of dumb. LOB was too timid, so I’ll put it to you:
Can you guess the sole congressperson, since 2010, to use the words “microagression” or “cultural appropriation” in a press release or official statement?
But did they do it while standing on this particular postage stamp of land, while twirling around counterclockwise?
Wrong place
I don't understand why this list is supposed to make the Intel "investment" look normal.
All (or almost all) those other companies are quasi-governmental entities created by statute. We can argue whether government involvement in them is still wise (or was ever wise), but they are conceptually very different from the Intel situation.
A much closer example would be GM back during the financial crisis.
Attorneys for those injured for persons injured by the various COVID lies are urged to contact me. The USPS is trying to steal my ivermectin. In a legal context this theft has close to zero value, but I wonder if this issue could be used to force people to testify, that the system would like to not testify. The issue is, is the theft attempt an ordinary governmental endorsement issue or is it a small part in conspiracy against rights? This question turns on the question was the "ivermectin" does not work lie, is really a lie. I would like to work with those trying to expose lies. Please contact me.
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New Albany IN 47150
Um, you do know that you can just pick up some more at Tractor Supply, right?
It is easier to figure the dosage with human targeted IVN. The FLCC makes this BIG BEAUTIFUL CART showing what the proper dosage in mg. I don't know how many inches of paste that is. I think FLCCC would be worried about flac if they told people how to use paste.
Frankly, if you can't do those sorts of calculations in your sleep, you probably shouldn't be compounding your own medications.
Haven't checked a Tractor Supply, but the farm and ranch supply places around here now seem to keep the veterinary meds behind the counter, and want to hear your reasons for asking for it.
So feasible but only if you're willing to lie.
I just said I was filling a prescription for Smuckers.
Didn't do much for my cough, but my tapeworm is gone!
Now, does anyone know how to get generic Ozempic? Asking for a friend.
When King George sent Royal Troops into Boston in 1768, he sent 4,000 soldiers into a city of 16,000 -- 25% of the population.
The population of DC is something like 700K, Chicago is over 3M, so a few thousand soldiers is much less significant.
There's a reason we separate military and the police: one fights the enemy of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.
--Commander William Adama (Edward James Olmos), Battlestar Galactica
do traythug supporters even know the facts of the case? i don't think they do. what it boils down to is that traythug felt "dissed" by some "creepy ass crackuh" following him at night, and he wanted to show his "girlfriend" (in reality, his future baby momma) that he wouldn't let said diss go unpunished! he violently chimped out, and george zimmerman shot the piece of crap through the heart. rot in hell, scumbag.
Giving "bot programmed with the controversies of the 1990s".
"Alex, I'll take armed white dumbass vigilantes for 800."
"And the answer is, 'This dumbass fucked around where he shouldn't have been and found out.'"
"Who is Rittenhouse?"
"No, I'm sorry, the correct answer is Tiny Microscopic Saint Ashtray Babbitt. As you may recall, Rittenhouse, like Zimmerman, both lived and made lucrative careers out of speaking to absolutely pro-semitic MAGA militia rallies"
Bill Shipley's latest on the Kilmar Abrega-Garcia saga. Paywalled, but free trial subscriptions are available.
Free At Last, Free At Last, Kilmar Abrego Garcia Is Free At Last -- To Go To Uganda.
Some highlights:
Shipley's ultimate conclusion is that Judge Xinis is engineering another confrontation with the executive by telegraphing to Garcia's attorneys to file with her so she can block his deportation. This effort by Xinis is unlikely to succeed due to DHS v DVD, but that hasn't stopped Xinis from telegraphing her intentions already.
Also, Garcia was just arrested by ICE. I would not be surprised if his lawyers are rushing to file paperwork with Judge Xinis today.
....and they did. They filed a habeas petition and the case was assigned to Judge Xinis.
Because of course it was.
https://x.com/AnnaBower/status/1959970082924228641
More from Bill Shipley on twitter:
https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1959999147265982762
Um, yes, duh, of course it was. It's a related case. That's how the federal courts work.
The "deal" Garcia is offered is not a deal. It is a threat. "Stop fighting for your rights, or we will deport you to Uganda."
What right are you talking about? A right to remain in the United States?
Due process rights. The right to a jury trial. Etc.
Try all you want, but you can't wash over the obvious attempts by the Trump administration to save face. Had they followed through and brought him back after the DoJ attorney admitted that he was deported to El Salvador by mistake, then they could have examined his case and possible deportation under some kind of reasonable process and he never would have become known by the general U.S. public.
But they (Trump administration) need you to see them being "tough" on "illegals", so anyone swept up by their attempts to meet their 3000 a day deportation goal, must be a horrible criminal, and getting them out of the U.S., by whatever means they can, is protecting you from those dangerous aliens.
He was likely going to jail but even if he beat the rap he was eventually going to be deported (he was under an order of deportation already) so if he was smart he'd take the offer and go to Guatemala.
I heard he was offered Costa Rica, not Guatemala.
But any offer had a time limit attached to it, and I suspect that the time is now up.
Either or, better than Uganda and easier for him to re-enter the US again. Plus he already speaks the language.
Costa Rica is a paradise compared to Uganda, and I would prefer the former over the latter.
Then again, I'm not an alleged MS-13 gang member who may have fled El Salvador after possibly murdering a rival gang member.
But then again, neither is Abrego Garcia.
Garcia is not alleged to be a MS-13 member?
What alternative universe are you living in?
Does "alleged" just mean "One lunatic on the Internet said it?" If so, then, yes, he's alleged as such. But by that standard Donald Trump is an alleged lizard from Mars. I assumed that, in context, "alleged" was meant to incorporate the concepts of credibility and evidence.
Not how tylertusta rolls.
What process is he due?
Garcia isn't being denied his right to a jury trial in his Tennessee case.
If Garcia is deported before going to trial, his case in Tennessee will be dismissed with prejudice.
Unlikely. The American media have turned every stubbed toe into a national scandal, and every allegation of misconduct against the government is taken at face value even after it was shown to be bullshit.
At minimum he deserves the right to petition the judiciary about what process he is due.
As noted, this is a threat to prevent him from standing up to himself against executive thuggery.
And you're on the side of the thug. They call that licking the boot.
You may prefer that he has another opportunity to challenge his deportation now after he did just that years ago- and lost, I should add- but your preference doesn't create a right.
He does not have a right to an opportunity to challenge his deportation. But he does have a right to challenge the destination if it, e.g., might violate the CAT or other humanitarian law.
Not at the district court he doesn't.
"As noted, this is a threat to prevent him from standing up to himself against executive thuggery."
All plea bargains are threat. Heck, sometimes they approach you in jail and offer you a deal where you can go home today by giving up your right to a trial, or stay in jail indefinitely if you continue to hold out for an acquittal.
In such an arrangement, you end up serving more time if you are acquitted than you do if you confess.
I'm generally in favor of abolishing such plea bargains, including this one, but I don't seem to have a lot of company.
Some people are going to be surprised to find out that there is no absolute right to habeas corpus for people being removed under the INA.
Sure, if you obliterate perspective 'plead or you'll get a week in jail' is the same as 'withdraw your due process claim or we'll deport you to Uganda.'
But what a shamefully ridiculous argument that would be.
The difference between this and a plea bargain, is that a plea bargain is, "If you admit guilt and forgo a trial, you will get less punishment. But if you refuse and take it to trial and lose, we'll seek to punish you more harshly."
This, though, is, "If you admit guilt and forgo a trial, you will get less punishment. But if you refuse, we won't give you a trial at all; we'll just punish you harshly."
The "deal" Garcia is offered is not a deal. It is a threat. "Stop fighting for your rights, or we will deport you to Uganda."
Tomato/oe, right?
It fits overall in the abuse of plea bargaining, which often involves a form of legal blackmail.
"The "deal" Garcia is offered is not a deal. It is a threat."
Oh dear, just like every other plea bargain. Stated or just implied, there is always a "threat".
Yup, that is the entire idea behind "plea bargains."
I recall the left's collective shrug over SCO Mueller's threatening to charge General Flynn's son if Flynn didn't plead guilty, so the performative outrage here is eye-rolling.
UK Police Arrest a Man for Saying He Loves Bacon.
Holy shit! What the hell is going on in the UK? It's against regulations to hang up the Union Jack or St. George's Cross flags, and now you can't say you like bacon! They have gone to shit, and need a revolution.
"This young man was arrested for saying he loves bacon which is actually part of an English breakfast
This is not a joke
He was arrested"
https://x.com/rhmaldonado1/status/1959374774452298056
I don't know the details behind them arresting someone over liking bacon, but the Brits are taking a hard line against peoples' speech lately. Between going after 4chan and throwing people in jail for Facebook posts, they're looking less like a liberal democracy and more like Cold War-era Eastern Europe.
Well he did say it outside a mosque construction site.
I am going to wait until I see a more reputable news org report this before I take the bait. Zerohedge, The Blaze, X, YouTube, and facebook doesn’t cut it for me. I don’t expect ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNow?, CNN, or NPR to ever cover it even if it was true.
For things like this, I find it's best to wait a while and let the facts come out.
It happened 5 days ago.
Here is a clip from SkyNews Australia where the audio of the police is very clear explaining why he is being arrested...
He said the "B" word.
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/outsiders/orwellian-dystopian-state-uk-police-arrests-man-for-the-most-ridiculous-thing/video/c959a0fc3c1693a466ed5c22b669bebb
Telegraph UK also has an article but its paywalled.
The only thing we are waiting for is to see how many years he gets.
Here is a clip from SkyNews Australia
If all your sources are super partisan, and the story sounds too good to be true, that doesn't bother you?
It should.
I don't post Rachel Maddow blog posts either, even if they contain an audio clip they claim proves what they're saying.
"I am going to wait until I see a more reputable news org report this before I take the bait."
Did you watch the video?
If he had just stuck to asking for peace in Gaza, no one would have touched him.
When was the last time Trump played golf? Scotland?
I figured there had to be a site for this, and indeed there is:
https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/
It's a shame that site doesn't link each day to the details, but their source is here:
https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/topic/calendar/
And it looks like yesterday he golfed at his "DC" club in Virginia.
The site is crass, a little childish, and somehow really funny!
Crazy someone would have that much dedication and time to create a website to track a president’s golf schedule, but I think it’s an important element of public accountability.
For those curious, here’s a history of US presidents’ golf habits:
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2023/01/20/u-s-presidents-play-golf-donald-trump-joe-biden/76531915007/
Reportedly, only Carter, Truman, and Hoover didn’t play.
Find it hard to believe that Roosevelt played. Maybe before he got polio and before he was president but not after.
Looks like you’re right. From TFA:
Franklin D. Roosevelt was an avid golfer and in college became the club champion at Campobello Island Golf Club in New Brunswick, Canada.
According to Don Van Natta, Jr., author of "First Off The Tee", Roosevelt played golf until he was 38. He would often play with other politicians in Washington. Van Natta called him "probably one of the better presidential golfers."
Roosevelt contracted polio at age 39 and it "robbed him of the game. He really, truly loved it," said Van Natta.
Roosevelt left a legacy with the federal funding of public-works projects, which included dozens of municipal golf courses like Bethpage State Park in New York and FDR Golf Club in Philadelphia.
Is there a site that tracks Biden's playing?
Oh wait, he couldn't even make it through a round of miniature golf at Rehoboth Beach.
Never mind.
With Trump’s rapidly necrotizing hand, is this the path you really want to go down?
When was the last time Don attempted to ride a bicycle, do you figure?
When was the last time Biden did? When he fell over?
I’ll guess 40 years ago
Probably more like 65 years ago.
Probably something like this:
https://bikehistory.org/bikes/hornet/
I will merely point out here that the source material doesn’t say if he actually played— just that he was at the club all day. But thank you, very interesting nonetheless.
"“Can you believe that, with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf. Worse than Carter,” Trump said in 2014.
“I’m going to be working for you, I’m not going to have time to go play golf,” he said at an event in Virginia."
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-obama-golf-235217
Pointing out that Trump lies is as easy as pointing out that Trump ... um ... lies.
Look, it doesn't matter to his fans (they aren't supporters, really, they are fans). Because they do not care that he lies. They do not care that he is doing all the things that they lied about Democratic politicians and/or The New World Order doing (um ... using a standing army to police the states? really?). They don't care about any inconsistencies, or ... anything.
They only care that what he does makes other people mad. Really. In fact, even if what Trump does should make them mad (not releasing the Epstein files, transferring Maxwell to a cushy place after a nice talk with his attorney, selling chips to China so long as he is able to tax without the permission of Congress, the ability to suspend laws to favored companies and contributors, using the ... Executive's power of the purse (??!!!) to force states to change their criminal processes, etc.) ... it doesn't matter ...
Because it makes people they don't like mad. And that's enough for them. It's like ... rooting for internet trolls simply because you like to see other people be unhappy, angry, and hurt. Because you think it's funny that other people have standards, or morals, or think that America has ideals and should be better.
Cool.
Yes, I know all this stuff. Lying causes MAGA to release endorphins making them happy and calm. I get to point out the lies causing me to release endorphins making me happy and calm. With all us masses properly opiated and distracted, the Trump Clan and the other oligarchs get to carve up the nation. Which they are indeed doing
This is all kinda weak-tea speculation.
We're not going to know anything unless and until Trump is dead, and even then maybe not for a bit of time.
In the meantime diagnosing from afar based on his golf habits and having a wonky hand seems too much like the right's constant wanking about Biden and before him Obama (remember when Obama was supposed to have secret gay AIDS?)
Personally, I would be a lot happier if Trump spent more time golfing and less time on social media, watching TV, and worst of all ... doing things.
More golfing, please.
Can justice ever be blind when complainants can forum shop and court clerks put their thumbs on the scale instead of random judge selection?
"Can justice ever be blind when complainants can forum shop and court clerks put their thumbs on the scale instead of random judge selection?"
To what are you referring?
He must be upset at the mifepristone lawsuits
The New York Times is ringing the alarm bells for Democrats' prospects after the 2030 census and reapportionment occurs. I guess Democrats are now in the "Finding Out" stage for learning of the consequences of their political choices over the past two decades.
The 2030 census and apportionment will cause significant problems for Democrats attempting to win the electoral college due to the "blue wall" strategy no longer being viable outside of the waviest of wave election years:
Ironically, in response to this mountain of woes, some Democrats are advocating for a "Southern Strategy" of their own.
https://archive.ph/bI0O2#selection-789.10-797.189
(The paywalled site has an interactive tool so people can test various state combinations)
Glad to see you trusting The Times, tyler.
Of course it doesn't matter what states gain or lose, the new districts will all be gerrymandered into oblivion. Democracy, baby!
I trust the Times when it's criticizing Democrats. Admission against interests and all that.
Hard to Gerrymander the presidency or the Senate, which maybe why the Times ran this
Abolish the Senate.
End the Electoral College.
Pack the Court.
Why the left can’t win without a new Constitution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/14/opinion/trump-democracy-test-left.html
I enjoyed re-watching The Notebook, which James Garner notes in his autobiography was one of his favorite films that he was involved in. His favorite was The Americanization of Emily.
The DVD has many extras, including a film editor discussing the deleted scenes, including the thought process that went into removing them. Interesting bit.
One thing that came up in extras was a discussion of the author of the source novel, including another work, A Walk to Remember, which was based on his sister's experience.
That film was also pretty good, with a good performance from Mandy Moore, whose character at one point warned someone not to fall in love with her.
Big James Garner fan here -- Rockford Files is my all-time favorite series.
He is also a nice example of how politics is not (and should not be) that important in our day to day lives.
By his account, be was a "bleeding heart liberal", but by everyone else's account, he was just an all-around great guy. Tom Selleck (who differs strongly from him politically) loved the guy, and said everything he tried to do running the set on Magnum PI, he learned from watching James Garner behave on the Rockford set.
Relatedly, some of the best Rockford episodes involve poking fun at the politics of the era (from hippie nonsense in Quickie Nirvana to gun nuts in Battle of Canoga Park).
My brother texted me this last week:
Why do you stand here by the truck?
I'm stealing tools.
For stealing tools? Alligator Alcatraz ... er ... Cooler!
We’re four days from an ignominious anniversary: on 29 August 2005, Hurricane Katrina made landfall in New Orleans.
NatGeo has a good, though horrifying, documentary:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/tv/show/835e484d-dbd3-426b-97e2-97000a792748
I sincerely hope we never again witness such abject failures at every level of government and utter disregard for the wellbeing of fellow Americans.
...and 2 days plus 86 years from the Nazi-Russian non-aggression pact. The prelude to WWII.
People seem to forget that Germany and Russia were two Jew-hating allies in WWII...until they weren't. Russia's long standing hatred of Jews and LBGT is a natural attractant to MAGA...it explains the cozying up
Cities with highest crime rates:
Murder and non-negligent manslaughter: Birmingham, St. Louis, Memphis
Rape: Anchorage, SLC, Cleveland
Robbery: Oakland, Baltimore, DC
Aggravated assault: Memphis, Detroit, Little Rock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
I don't see Trump sending the NG to Memphis or Birmingham or SLC...
Nor to any of the others you listed.
Patience grasshopper. All in good time.
"Cities with highest crime rates:"
Democrat mayors, so of course.
Anchorage has an independent mayor. During the time in which these stats were reported, the mayor was Republican.
Also: there's entire Republican-led *states* with higher crime rates than some of the cities that Trump is threatening to send the national guard to.
"Anchorage has an independent mayor"
"Independent" in name only, she was the Democrat nominee for assembly previously.
"entire Republican-led *states* with higher crime rates than some of the cities that Trump is threatening to send the national guard to"
Because of the "blue" cities dude.
Cute how you just skipped over the part that the mayor was Republican for the period that the data applies to.
Umm, other states have cities too. With Democratic mayors even. The top-crime Republican states: Alaska (#2 in violent crime), Arkansas (#3), Louisiana (#4) and Tennessee (#5) are all more rural than average, with all but Louisiana being significantly more rural than average. New Mexico, the #1 state for violent crime and the only blue state to crack the top 5, is more urban than any of the Republican states on the list, but still a bit more rural than average.
So no, that's not why.
"So no, that's not why."
Demographics then
Anything to avoid acknowledging the fact that red states are just high crime cesspools I guess:
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-21st-century-red-state-murder-crisis
I'd actually be pretty interested to see if anyone has done some analysis on the topic controlling for population density. This is the closest I could find and it basically says there's no difference in red vs. blue once you control for various factors (age, race, socioeconomic status):
https://manhattan.institute/article/red-vs-blue-crime-debate-and-the-limits-of-empirical-social-science
Unleashing the Guard on the streets of all of Ohio's crime-ridden cities would be a tacit acknowledgement that all across DeWine's red state, crime is out of control under Republican rule.
Crime in California is governor Newsom's fault. Crime across Illinois is governor Pritzker's fault.
Ergo....
DeWine doesn't need Trump to call out the Ohio NG to help control crime in Dem run cities.
What DeWine needs is a pair.
Democrat mayors, so of course.
Dem run cities.
What DeWine needs is a pair.
No, what DeWine needs is money. Fighting crime Trump's way is expensive. These NG deployments aren't cheap. Even regular police are expensive.
Cities are trading off between taxes and crime, and to the extent the answer is taxes, they're figuring out the most effective use of the taxes, which isn't always police. Unemployment is by far a bigger predictor of crime than police budgets, so investing in jobs is better than more police, for example. There's no way that Trump's NG strategy is a cost-effective long-term solution to crime. As soon as they're gone, the crime will come back, probably worse. It's just a) a publicity stunt and b) softening people up for accepting the idea of federal soldiers running around the country.
You missed the 'Ergo...' part, Bumble.
I remember in 2020, San Antonio wanted to have stricter local masking requirements but the rubes in Austin enforced state supremacy and sent them all into the viral meatgrinder. The state has ultimate control of itself.
Ohio has rampant meth, oxy and related property crime (as documented by Vance in his book, Dreams of My Meemaw) throughout the hayseed areas. And it has rampant neegro crime in its cities. Who controls it all? The Toledo City Council? Sheriff Buford T. Justice in Lollapalooza County?
DC should have the lowest crime rate in the nation.
Being only the 25th worst doesn't seem like the benchmark we should be shooting for.
Looking at a few charts and maps of DC this afternoon. I see that in 1980, the black population was 70% and whites 25%. And in 2020 it was 40% black and 38% white.
I also see that the most murders and sex crimes occurred around the Dupont Circle/Chinatown areas. On Redfin, I see apartments in those areas going anywhere from $400k to $2.5M.
It looks to me like DC suffers from a wealthy white crime wave
DC should have the lowest crime rate in the nation.
1. There is no utility specified to set the scope; just vibes.
2. There is no cost threshold; just vibes.
This is how you rationalize a police state.
Where does that assertion come from? Which city "should" have the 25th highest crime rate?
Didn't Trump float the idea of sending the Guard to other cities?
Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.
Yes. I presume that's the point of this comment thread. Notably, Trump is not threatening to send the guard to cities in red states, despite many of them having extremely high crime rates, as noted above.
He also doesn't seem to be thinking about sending the National Guard to murder-y rural areas that are even more dangerous than any of these big cities, like Coahoma County, Mississippi and Phillips County, Arkansas.
Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.
I've got an idea. How about we don't use our military on American citizens no matter where they live?
Trump 2017: vows no troops to Libya
Trump 2024: vows no troops to Ukraine
Trump 2025: vows no troops to Gaza
Nope...let it be America First (promises kept, motherfuckers!)
El Mayo has plead guilty in New York, and agreed to forfeit 15 billion:
"Zambada entered his plea Monday in federal court in Brooklyn, New York, to one count of engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise and one count of racketeering conspiracy. He faces a mandatory sentence of life in prison and agreed to forfeit $15 billion as the proceeds of his crimes."
https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/el-mayo-faces-life-in-prison-forfeits-15-billion-after-plea-11756144056818.html
No details of whether the Trump Org already has the funds or when they will be transferred.
LOL!
Are Ugandan prisons nicer than El Salvador prisons?
Asking for a really good friend of Senator Chris Van Hollen's.
Also, what're the best drinks to order in Uganda?
Are they better than margaritas?
Frying pan to fire?
Somebody's about to find out.
Immigrants being sent to Uganda presumably aren't going to prison, they're just being sent out of the US. Uganda apparently has a pretty progressive policy towards refugees and other immigrants, and tries to integrate them into society.
I'd guess freedom in Uganda is a lot better than CECOT.
Whew!
That is a relief.
Kinda like telling the kids that the dog didn't die, he just went to...a farm! Where he's frolicking with other gang-bangers...I mean dogs.
"I'd guess freedom in Uganda is a lot better than CECOT."
Maybe he can live in the Mamdani family compound.
Today in "the Trump Administration hates free speech":
I will spare you the rest of this monstrosity, but it is here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/prosecuting-burning-of-the-american-flag/
Flag burning is not "speech". The opinion was only 5-4, wrongly decided at birth.
It strikes me as an empty threat. The Justice Department should put more effort into prosecuting crimes involving flag burning than crimes not involving flag burning. There aren't that many federal crimes involving flag burning.
Maybe he shouldn't have put that in writing because the order can be used as evidence of discriminatory prosecution.
The visa threat would be a little more serious if not for the new policy of searching foreigners' social media posts for anti-American sentiment.
I note on Jan 6 there was tons more Trump flags than there were American flags. I suppose that doesn't count as desecration. But it does hint at loyalties
A new executive order pressures states to hold people in pretrial detention instead of setting them free to await trial.
"TAKING STEPS TO END CASHLESS BAIL TO PROTECT AMERICANS"
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/taking-steps-to-end-cashless-bail-to-protect-americans/
The Attorney General will produce a list of jurisdictions that have "substantially eliminated cash bail as a potential condition of pretrial release from custody for crimes that pose a clear threat to public safety and order, including offenses involving violent, sexual, or indecent acts, or burglary, looting, or vandalism." OMB will advise departments on terminating federal grants and contracts involving such jurisdictions "as appropriate and consistent with applicable law."
It looks like the kind of order that judges like to enjoin these days, despite the disclaimer that it will operate consistent with applicable law. Those last words are the big question mark in this order.
DC arrests surpass 1,000 as Trump-backed crackdown enters 12th homicide-free day
Michael Dorgan By Michael Dorgan Fox News
Published August 25, 2025 11:46am EDT
Sarcasto sad!
Yes, I am.
I don't think all arrests are good arrests, and I don't much like Trump turning DC into a police state.
You are sad about "12th homicide-free day". Weak.
You have to go back several whole months to find a stretch that long w/o a homicide in DC!