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Roberts' Rules for Defending Judicial Independence and the Rule of Law
The Chief Justice is more consistent than his critics, left and right.
On Monday, Chief Justice Roberts spoke at the Georgetown Law School> Among other things, the Chief repeated his concern about threats to the rule of law and judicial independence. From Politico's report:
Chief Justice John Roberts described the rule of law as "endangered" and warned against "trashing the justices," but speaking in Washington Monday he didn't point fingers directly at President Donald Trump or his allies for publicly excoriating judges who've ruled against aspects of Trump's agenda.
"The notion that rule of law governs is the basic proposition," Roberts said during an appearance at Georgetown Law. "Certainly as a matter of theory, but also as a matter of practice, we need to stop and reflect every now and then how rare that is, certainly rare throughout history, and rare in the world today."
While the Chief Justice may not have "point[ed] fingers" at President Trump or his allies in these remarks, the Chief Justice has responded to President Trump's criticisms of federal judges and calls for impeachment. Indeed, contrary to Politico's suggestion, the Chief Justice has been rather consistent in calling out threats to judicial independence and the rule of law from all quarters--and in this he is the exception.
As I discuss in my latest Civitas Outlook piece, the Chief Justice has been consistent in his appeals to and defense of these principles, whereas most of his critics have not been.
Speaking in Buffalo on May 7, the Chief Justice reiterated his views, noting, "impeachment is not how you register disagreement with decisions." As Roberts explained, judicial independence is "central" to the constitutional structure, adding that "the only real political science innovation in our constitution… is the establishment of an independent judiciary." Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No.22 lamented that the lack of a federal judiciary "to expound and define" the "true meaning" of the laws was among the crowning "defects" of the Articles of Confederation. For the judiciary to play that role, Roberts noted, it cannot be under the sway of either of the other branches. The "innovation" embodied in Article III "doesn't work if the judiciary is not independent."
Donald Trump is hardly the only one to have earned rebukes from the Chief Justice for unwarranted attacks on the judiciary. The Chief Justice's most recent year-end report on the state of the judiciary—released before Trump returned to office – inveighed against threats of violence, intimidation, misinformation about judicial decisions, and threats to defy court orders as serious threats to judicial independence. Though some may have forgotten by December 2024, some prominent progressive voices had suggested that the Biden Administration should consider defying court orders and ignoring the Supreme Court's decisions on high profile matters.
And we should not forgot the Chief Justice's forceful statement in response to Senator Schumer's threatening remarks in front of the Court in 2020.
Those who care more about judicial independence and the rule of law than they do about policy victories or partisan advantage would do well to emulate the Chief Justice's approach. Alas, it seems most commentators only raise concerns about the rule of law when the threats come from an opposing tribe. This feeds cynicism about appeals to such principles and undermines efforts to defend the rule of law.
The failure of legal elites to call out the efforts of prior Democratic administrations to ignore legal constraints and evade judicial review does not excuse the Trump Administration's conduct. Two wrongs do not make a right, and there are plenty of wrongs.
But if one is concerned about defending the rule of law, recognizing that threats may come from multiple directions is necessary, as a matter of prudence and civic hygiene. If one wants to be taken seriously as a defender of neutral values, and not merely a partisan wielding whatever rhetorical sword is useful in the moment, one has to aspire toward consistency. . . .
When legal elites turn a blind eye to threats to judicial independence and the rule of law from their political allies, they degrade the value of their voices. The ability to identify transgressions against one's own interests is a sign of good faith and demonstrates that the principle actually matters and is not simply a useful cudgel to wield in political combat. Conspicuous failures to call out offenses and transgressions by one's allies undercut the speaker's moral authority and make it easy for others to write them off as mere partisan actors deploying aspirational rhetoric. Appeals to neutral principles are heard as political subterfuge—perhaps with reason.
Current concerns about the rule of law are justified. The Trump Administration has shown insufficient regard for legal constraints on executive power and has been unduly adversarial with the federal courts. Some of the administration's actions reek of deliberate indifference to constitutional constraints and a lack of good faith. At the same time, some lower court judges have overreacted, stretching their authority to issue nationwide injunctions and block contestable exercises of executive power. If the rule of law is to be defended, it must be defended on principle, with neither fear nor favor for the direction from which such threats emerge.
Many conservatives concerned about the Trump Administration's legal transgressions will nonetheless refuse to play by rules the opposition will not abide by. Rule of law constraints for thee, but not for me, is not a viable option. Asking constitutionalist conservatives to play Charlie Brown trying to kick the football will end the game, and likely on terms no one will like. Those who would preserve judicial independence and rule of law values should heed this message and emulate the Chief Justice's even-handed concerns before it is too late.
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The biggest threat to the independence of the judiciary is Roberts' failure to rein in lower courts' overreaching injunctions and municipalities' game playing (trying to moot cases once the SC takes them). The Supreme Court is fine ignoring procedure and taking a case on the emergency docket when it's a result they want (immigration), but when it's a 1st or 2nd amendment case, plaintiffs have to wait years.
Nobody thinks the judiciary is independent, they see it as partisan and Roberts is chiefly to blame for this. At some point (maybe soon) Trump and Congress will just decide to ignore them.
The only people who complain about Roberts are right wingers when they don't get what they want.
Setting aside the fact that you don't know what you're talking about legally, you also don't understand the structure of our courts. "Roberts" does not have any power to do anything here.
They can get up in the middle of the night and issue bullshit stays for condemned prisoners. They can get up in the middle of the night to protect the interests of criminal aliens. They can figure out how to deal with lawless lower courts.
I don't think Roberts' pronouns are "they/them."
Are you sure?
You are right, he certainly does not wield the power of the midnight ex parte stay to slap down rulings. Or does he?
Everyone lost their minds over the Penaltax ruling, but that was sadly consistent with pretty much everything the feds do. e.g ATF
Congress gutted the mandate soon enough.
No one gave him credit for blocking the medicaid expansion. That was far more impactful.
Because that was the last chance at stopping the creation of a new federal entitlement program, only one funded by forcing the private sector to offer goods below cost to the entitlees, instead of honestly putting it into the federal budget. So Roberts blew the really important part of it.
Great, no mandate for the customers. But when somebody gets the idea of saving on the food stamp program by just mandating that grocers sell food below cost to the poor as a condition of doing business, Roberts will be the bastard who created the precedent in favor of it.
These analogies of health care to groceries are silly.
Did you ever go a year without eating and then need to consume 100,000 calories in a few days?
Man thinks his job is more important than every other job.
Our juristocracy is the greatest threat to our Constitution, not some mild criticisms of the juristocracy.
The first amendment applies to me, but not to thee!
It demonstrates the arrogance of the judiciary that they think criticism is a threat.
Write a frickin persuasive ruling, be seen as non partisan, rein in judges with no jurisdiction ordering planes to turn around, and the problem is solved.
It’s one thing to criticize specific judicial rulings. It’s quite another to constantly complain that judges are a bunch of criminals who ought to be impeached and thrown into jail.
This is not criticism. It’s sedition.
Sedition as in criminal sedition?
But what if they actually are criminals who should be impeached?
To even speak of Article II Section 4 of the Constitution, as it relates to judges, is verboten.
Despite the Supreme Court giving Trump a free pass to violate the Constitution on a whim, the courts are the only thing standing between this administration and a complete loss of our constitutional democracy. When Trump can use anonymous police to sweep anyone off the streets and detain them without access to a lawyer, we're done. He's already captured Congress. There's only one branch of government left to fulfill the checks-and-balances function. Meanwhile, teams of masked, plainclothes ICE agents are sweeping students off the streets for their op-eds in the university newspaper and shuffling them around the country to complicate access to legal assistance.
Roberts seems to think that any criticism of the judiciary is a threat to judicial independence. Given their track record (Dred Scott, Buck v. Bell, Plessy v. Ferguson, Korematsu), the notion that they are above criticism is risible.
I don't think that's what Roberts is saying at all.
Always finding new ways to say nothing.
Douche.
No. He just noted your take is an hysterical distortion of what Roberts actually said. If that kinda comment triggers you, there's a simple solution: Stop being hysterical. Stop distorting.
That doesn't sound very hard, does it?
(Note : The comment below by y81 makes a similar observation)
Where is the "my take" you're referring to?
I'm pretty sure the "take" referred to was Bored Lawyers'. Nobody's going to bother replying to one of your "takes" on anything LOL
What a helpful troll you are, now go back to the closet under the bridge.
I'm highly confident that Roberts never suggested that, for instance, Ely's criticisms of Roe v. Wade or Posner's criticisms of Bakke were a threat to judicial independence. But Schumer's invective on the Supreme Court steps, Tushnet's call to ignore Supreme Court decisions, and Roosevelt's court-packing scheme were threats to judicial independence. The only people who can't see the distinction are those who aren't arguing in good faith (or possibly, in the saddest situation, those who have argued in bad faith so long and so often that they have lost the capacity to think in good faith).
The problem is that unfettered judicial power can create its own problems. And the requirement to obey incents judges to go very very far.
I see I have touched a nerve among the self-appointed intelligentsia here.
Sorry, courts are subject to criticism like any other branch of government. And that is not limited to genteel law review articles, but includes harsh and sometimes personal criticisms. So long as it does not involve threats (Schumer came pretty close), it's fair game. Especially when it involves matters of public policy. (FDR's court-packing was not criticism, so I don't see what that has to do with the post.)
Do you think that Dred Scott was only criticized in law review articles?
Everyone is telling BL he's strawmanning the OP.
BL just strawmans those comments.
Maybe John Roberts should try leveling with the American people. This is what he once said:
"We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges."
Everyone knows that isn't true. Not by a long shot.
He not only loses his credibility with such ridiculous statements but for his faux compromises like in the ACA case and his proposed "solution" in Dobbs. They are simply unserious middle positions that exist only in the mind of John Roberts that he expects the public to take seriously as real law.
This is just MAGA populist distrust of all institutions. And getting mad that anyone disagrees with them.
MAGA-tankie horseshoe confirmed.
...and why would you think there is a distrust of all institutions? Maybe this?
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/05/14/trump-team-aint-playin-around-more-hanky-panky-busted-at-the-cftc-n3802772
" A U.S. federal judge has dismissed the Commodity Futures Trading Commission’s (CFTC) complaint against Traders Global Group Inc., the parent company of My Forex Funds, with prejudice. The court also approved a sanctions motion against the regulator.
The sanctions result from a recommendation by Special Master Jose L. Linares, who urged the court to dismiss the case with prejudice and impose penalties on the CFTC. He stated the agency misled the court in its enforcement action against Traders Global.
Linares noted that the CFTC had made errors in a sworn declaration and took steps to obfuscate. The court redacted the names of those responsible, but prior filings indicate involvement of CFTC's lead attorney Ashley Burden and investigator Matthew Edelstein."
Read the whole thing."
Robert's rule number one:
Orange Man Bad
Robert's rule number two:
Nothing can change rule number one.
Roberts had better get his own house in order first. Everyone knows that federal judges can be imperious pricks (most aren't, but many can be). In a free society, litigants, their lawyers and the public should just not to have to deal with that. And there are judges like Manuel Real: https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/the-troublesome-federal-judge-who-was-never-disciplined-by-congress-his-peers-or-the-press/
How dare Roberts criticize (impliedly) Donald Trump (who rightly rags on Judge Boasberg who insists that the mere scheduling of a hearing means that the federal government must cease vigorous activity. No, you imperious twit, you may be able to bully ordinary litigants, but not the "United States fucking Government" (bonus for anyone who can guess where that quote comes from). Or how about pointing out that Manuel Real cost a real person real money through his complete abandonment of neutrality and saying that the federal court system is illegitimate because it failed to remedy the failure of due process? Or how about pointing out that Boasberg went soft on the resistance? (Clinesmith).
The destruction of the rule of law we are seeing is of Robert's own making by refusing to apply the law and constitution to Trump.
When they allowed a plainly bogus criminal "sentencing" to attach to Trump, they showed their true colors. Such a ridiculous punt. If Roberts is going to wade into this fight, then stop the lawfare against Trump.
The NY fraud case has nothing to do with this.
Um, yes it does. First of all, the federal district judge totally stonewalled a valid removal case. So the federal judicial WAS involved with that case. Them Roberts provided a vote to allow the bullshit sentencing to happen to Trump. Roberts voted to allow a partisan prosecution to stain the incoming President. And now he wonders why his precious courts are under attack.
No. Trump forging business records to hide conduct he did before he became president has absolutely nothing to do with his duties as president. There was not even a colorable argument for removal.
What would have been the basis for interfering?
https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2025/05/15/fbi-foils-planned-terrorist-attack-on-michigan-military-base-n2189121
Kash stopping the nefarious plans of a Biden voter.
Judicial independenct? What of executive independence? They are co-equal branches - the Supreme Court is not Supreme over the Executive.
They are not co-equal branches.
Give how much authority Congress has delegated to the President and how much the judiciary defers, you are right but for the wrong reasons.
For the judiciary to play that role, Roberts noted, it cannot be under the sway of either of the other branches. The "innovation" embodied in Article III "doesn't work if the judiciary is not independent."
The judiciary is always under the "sway" of the other branches in that judges are appointed by the President and confirmed (or not) by the Senate.
The independence of the federal judiciary is under direct threat here precisely because politicians of all flavors in Congress and in presidential administrations have actually worked, purposefully, to do the following:
- Limit the pool of potential nominees to those that line up with their political agendas.
- Limit those that get confirmed to those that line up with their political agendas
- Hold up those that don't as examples of 'bad' judges that shouldn't be on the bench, and those that do as the 'mold' for what a judge or Justice should be.
The federal judiciary's independence deserves to be questioned because they are only independent of politics in theory. In practice, Roberts is obviously wrong, or was even being knowingly disingenuous with what he once said about there not being any "Obama judges," "Trump judges," etc.
Anyone that wants to defend the federal judiciary's independence needs to reckon with the partisanship among judges and Justices. The people that [are supposed to] matter, the voters, will only help protect judicial independence if they believe that judges are much less partisan than they currently are.
You aren't fooling anyone with that legal nonsense.
Here is what a real student of the law noted :
John Roberts’s Dangerous Game
In ruling after ruling, the Supreme Court pretends to uphold lower-court constraints on Trump but provides a road map for Trump to defy the judges’ orders.
"THIS CASE WOULD BE OUTRAGEOUS ENOUGH it if were a one-off. But it is a Roberts pattern.
A district court rules that some administration action is plainly a violation of law, and orders its reversal. The administration then makes an “emergency” appeal to the Supreme Court for a stay, which is granted, based on very thin evidence. Critics call this the “shadow docket.” The Court then remands the case to the lower court, on terms that give the administration plenty of room to avoid consequences.
The Supreme Court has yet to deliver a definitive ruling requiring Trump to obey the law. The high court’s emergency stays have put on hold lower-court rulings requiring Trump to reinstate NLRB and Merit Systems Protections Board officials who were illegally fired; to reverse more than 16,000 arbitrary firings of probationary workers by six agencies; and to reinstate more than $65 million in Education Department grants that funded diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. In that last case, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, joined by Justice Sotomayor, called it “beyond puzzling that a majority of the Justices conceive of the Government’s application as an emergency.”"
THis is just me and based on not enough data to be a settled conviction BUT seems to me Roberts has no backbone, uses the law to both suit his agenda and to sit the whole court on the fence whenver he can.