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My New Lawfare Article "Trump's 'Emergencies' Are Pretexts for Undermining the Constitution"
The article explains why these claims to emergency powers are illegal and dangerous, and how to stop them.
Today, Lawfare published my article "Trump's 'Emergencies' Are Pretexts for Undermining the Constitution." Here is an excerpt:
The Trump administration has exhibited a dangerous pattern of invoking spurious emergencies to undermine the Constitution, threatening liberty and circumventing Congress. This is most evident in the fields of immigration and trade policy. If not stopped, or at least curtailed, these policies could harm millions of people, imperil civil liberties, and compromise our constitutional system. Abuse of emergency powers is far from unique to the current administration. But Trump has taken this tendency to new heights…..
On immigration, Trump asserts vast emergency powers by claiming that illegal migration and drug smuggling amount to an "invasion," issuing an executive order to that effect. He further claims that this authorizes him to invoke the Alien Enemies Act (AEA)—a 1798 law that can be used only in the event of war, "invasion," or a "predatory incursion" by a foreign government. Trump's invocation of the AEA is—so far—limited to alleged members of the Venezuelan drug gang Tren de Aragua (TdA). But similar reasoning could be used to target migrants from almost any country that is a source of illegal migration or drugs….
Trump has also declared an "emergency" at the southern border, despite the fact that illegal entries have been low since his term started. The "emergency" and the "invasion" executive orders have been invoked to shut down most legal migration across the southern border, inflicting grave harm on immigrants fleeing oppression (many thousands of whom will be denied the opportunity to seek asylum).
These measures set the stage for the administration's dangerous—and illegal—uses of the AEA. Trump's "invasion" theory goes against extensive evidence that, under the Constitution and the AEA itself, "invasion" means an "operation of war" (as James Madison put it), not mere illegal border crossing or drug smuggling. Before Trump, the AEA had been used only three times, all during major wars against foreign powers: the War of 1812, World War I, and World War II. As several courts have now ruled, a "predatory incursion" (which is an alternative ground for invoking the AEA) is also a type of military attack. If illegal migration and drug smuggling qualify as "invasion," then the U.S. must necessarily be in a state of "invasion" at all times, since these phenomena are ubiquitous….
Trump has used the AEA as justification for deporting people to imprisonment in El Salvador without due process (and, in many cases, in error)—and then claiming that they cannot be returned on the grounds that they are in the custody of a foreign power. This is a blatant violation of the Fifth Amendment, which requires "due process of law" before anyone can be deprived of "liberty…."
With his "Liberation Day" executive order, Trump has imposed massive tariffs on goods from almost every nation in the world, triggering the biggest trade war since the Great Depression. This order relied on the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), which can be invoked only in the event of an "emergency" arising from an "unusual and extraordinary" threat from abroad. Trump's invocation of emergency powers to impose the "Liberation Day" tariffs suggests that the president can impose a tariff of any amount, on goods from any country, for any reason. If long-standing (and generally harmless) trade deficits that supposedly justify these measures qualify as an "emergency" and an "extraordinary and unusual threat," the same can be said of virtually anything. Indeed, Trump now threatens to use IEEPA to impose 100 percent tariffs on foreign-produced movies, based on the dubious claim that they pose "a National Security threat…"
Trump is far from the first president to abuse emergency powers. President Biden, for example, used the coronavirus emergency as a pretext to raid the Treasury to forgive some $400 billion in student loan debt (the Supreme Court rightly ruled against him). More generally, the National Emergencies Act of 1976, at least as currently interpreted, has made it too easy for presidents to declare an "emergency" in a wide range of circumstances that do not merit it.
But Trump's abusive emergency power claims are distinctive in the enormity of their scope. Using claims of "invasion" to shut down most legal migration across the southern border and engage in deportation and imprisonment without due process is unprecedented. Shutting down asylum condemns hundreds of thousands of migrants to poverty and oppression. If allowed to continue, deportation without due process could similarly be used against others, including legal immigrants and even U.S. citizens.
Using a fabricated "emergency" as a pretext to start the biggest trade war since the Great Depression is also an unprecedented abuse of the system of emergency powers, one that will impose some $1.4 to 2.2 trillion in tax increases on Americans over the next decade. By comparison, Biden's $400 billion student loan forgiveness power grab seems relatively modest….
In the long run, constraining dangerous emergency powers requires both judicial and legislative vigilance. Courts would do well to enforce the ordinary language definition of "emergency" as a sudden unexpected crisis, not just any possible public policy problem. As a House of Representatives report leading to the enactment of IEEPA explained, "emergencies are by their nature rare and brief, and are not to be equated with normal ongoing problems…."
Congress should adopt legislation limiting presidentially declared emergencies to 30 days, unless it affirmatively votes to extend such emergencies. This would represent a marked improvement on the current system, under which Congress can terminate a presidentially declared emergency only by passing a new law—a near-impossible feat, given the two-thirds supermajority required to override a nearly inevitable White House veto….
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Meh. I agree, but at the same time almost every federal law is based on a pretext of INTERSTATE COMMERCE.
If we were honest, we'd probably strike down 90% of federal legislation.
I do agree, Trump's way over the line.
But we just got out of 8 years of motivated frauds faceting about with uuncountable initiatives to git 'im, git 'im arrested, jailed, removed from office twice, removed from the ballot, sending investigation material down to the states "just in case" he pardons himself, and seizing $500,000,000 dollars, like kings of yore expropriating the estates of irritating Lords.
So, yes, Trump's doing wrong. He's using motivated pseudo-constitutional cover stories to explain away government actions grossly out of alignment with constitutional design and spirit.
Where did I hear that before?
"But those were real issues!" No, they weren't. The reason for things like the 4th Amendment wasn't to protect against planting fake evidence, or going after yokels. It was to stop kings from going on fishing expeditions. Kings knew uppity rich Lords who didn't play the game had, like the king, fingers in many pies, some perhaps sketchy, some trivial and ready for hyperbolization, no matter.
Fishing expeditions reveal many infractions. Then you can harm your political opponent, which is what motivates you.
Trump is bad. But so are you facetious, lying, fraudulent power mongers. By god you're evil.
Step away from the Constitution. What is Trump doing? Just responding in kind, gloves are off.
He shouldn't be doing it, but this this is the world you built. I still stand by my long term observation that your behaviors are the worst threat to democracy the past decade, not his actions, though he's making a run for the title now.
Thanks, assholes. Thanks a lot.
That's certainly one take on it. Let me offer another.
Whether or not Trump technically fits the definition of fascist, he certainly has leanings in that direction. His attacks on a free press, his attacks on higher education, his demonization of minorities, his cozying up to authoritarian religions, his welcoming of racists who at this point aren't even bothering to hide it, his glorification of an armed mob that tried to prevent certification of the 2020 election -- all of that is very worrisome. This is looking more and more like 1930s Berlin, and there's no real precedent for it at this level of magnitude.
It's too early to tell how far in that direction he will actually move the country. Maybe not far at all; maybe total. Only time will tell.
But please consider the possibility that those who pulled out all the stops to try to keep him out of power may be heroes who were protecting the country from fascism. Maybe a president who sends an angry mob to the Capitol to remain in power after losing an election really should be prosecuted. Maybe a president who calls up the Georgia secretary of state in an attempt to steal an election really should be prosecuted. And if we do end up with Third Reich 2.0, history will ultimately view the people who tried to prevent it as heroes.
Don't forget the bitching and moaning about the pesky ol' due process clause. And the rumblings of removing habeas corpus to avoid having to comply with what due process requires.
His excuses: "it would take too long, there's too many people it would apply to...etc..." are rather indicative of what he thinks of core constitutional protections. Inconvenience to his [authoritarian] agenda.
I keep thinking there must be a step too far at some point for his MAGA congress party members and yet... crickets. They all deflect and give platitudes about "this is what he ran on and this is what a majority of the people voted for." As if the people could simply vote away their own constitutional rights that easily or that tyranny of the majority isn't an invalid argument regardless of whether its even true or not. But they keep repeating it as they cheer him on and run interference in Congress. Authoritarian enablers is all they will be known as with very rare exception.
"this is what he ran on and this is what a majority of the people voted for."
Rare is the cultist who concedes that Trump didn't even get a majority of the votes.
"this is what he ran on and this is what a majority of the people voted for."
Actually, Trump's actions rigorously follow the Project 2025 playbook. The majority of Americans (or a plurality thereof) couldn't have voted for that since Trump repeatedly denied that was his plan or intentions. DJT has shred popular support quicker than any modern president precisely because he's governing differently than he promised.
To be fair, the alternate argument is also strong : Everyone knows nothing Trump says means anything. He's the worse liar in the history of U.S. politics. He lies with every other breath. Therefore no one could have possibly taken his Project 2025 denials seriously. Of course, that cuts both ways. Since everyone knows his word means nothing, people felt free to believe his ranting brat child lunacy was an act; he'd never follow thru on his idiot promises; he wouldn't systematically ignore the Constitution, cripple the U.S. economy; gut scientific research; and threaten our allies with invasion. Those people have since learned differently.
Trump never said that he'd be doing nothing that happened to be in Project 2025. And there's plenty in there, such as the abortion stuff, that he's not doing. He just said that it wasn't HIS Project, which was true.
Expecting him to refrain from something he'd otherwise have done, just because it was mentioned in Project 2025, is pretty stupid.
No, it wasn't. Also, he didn't "just" say that. He said he didn't know anything about it and didn't know where it came from.
No he got the majority of votes from people who CHOSE to vote. As far as the ones who didn't vote, who cares? They had their chance.
“No he got the majority of votes from people who CHOSE to vote.”
I’m sorry, but that is not accurate.
jimc, Plurality ≠ Majority
Obsessives of radically outlying views swapping conspiracist/fantasist chain-emails, once found relatively little daily face-to-face support. Now, however, internet algorithms target them with authoritative-feeling, unbound-from-reality reinforcement—plus instant persistent links to a vast population filtered for like-mindedness.
Starting as a crank few in absolute numbers, they began a matrix-enabled connection and perception of themselves as base-normal, and the rest of us living in what had for centuries been the normal world, outliers. The internet’s ubiquity and social media’s frictionless algorithmic stickiness led receptive people with preexisting gut-level prejudices to suddenly cast off shame in a comradeship of like-minded shamelessness.
This happened, by the way, not accidentally but algorithmically—civic sabotage by algorithmic optimization. And thus, an electoral plurality of American citizens became citizens of a shameless MAGAnistan, seeking revenge for problems less real than imagined. And thus, for the first time in centuries, the long arc of history globally begins a long-term bend away from justice and toward societal enshittification.
" This is looking more and more like 1930s Berlin"
Oh, a Hitler comparison. How original!
Plenty of other tyrants in history. Maybe Stalin would serve your comparison purposes.
I notice you didn't even bother to make the claim that I'm wrong on the facts. The "attacks on a free press, his attacks on higher education, his demonization of minorities, his cozying up to authoritarian religions, his welcoming of racists who at this point aren't even bothering to hide it, his glorification of an armed mob that tried to prevent certification of the 2020 election" really are happening.
I'd love to be wrong and we'll know soon enough. But if it turns out I'm right, I won't hold my breath for the cultists who elected him to admit their complicity in installing a fascist government.
WONI
Trump is attacking a dishonest press. Did you forget the extent to which the press hid and took active steps to cover up Biden's mental decline?
Did you forget the extent to which the biden adminstration was actively involved in various levels of censorship during his term
Funny how you refuse to answer my question about religion (see below) because you claimed it was what abouting, only to now what about yourself now that it suits your purpose. Looks like you're just about the biggest hypocrite here.
Did you forget that neither of those things are true?
You are an hysterical ninny. You are not stating facts, just hyperbole.
And which of the facts that I stated are actually wrong?
It's impossible to argue with people who are self-lobotomized
Bob from Ohio : "Maybe Stalin would serve your comparison purposes."
I dunno, Bob. Hitler works pretty good as a comparison. For instance, we have our "good Germans" (like you) who cheer as our democracy is being ripped apart. And there's no better analogy for Trump's ugly invective and performance cruelty against our despised "other" than early Nazi Germany. They had their despised "other" too. If you recall, they also disappeared into gulags and camps without due process.
And here's another correspondence : Hitler surrounded himself with wack-jobs, freaks, losers, leeches, and empty suits. He wanted to rule with worthless trash as his underlings. The match with Trump couldn't be clearer.
In this case, the despised "other" are people who have no right to be in this country. Your analogy would have worked if Polish and Russian Jews had illegally entered Germany for free stuff, and been deported.
Franklin Roosevelt is the President most like Hitler -- right on down to the same imagery. Compare Hitler's Nazi Eagle to FDR's NRA Eagle --- identical....
Um, you made almost this identical claim before, several months ago. I pointed out that it was — as is typical for you — a complete and total fabrication. You came up with some half-hearted non-response. And now you're back to doing it again. I don't understand why you lie like this about things that are so obviously false.
(Except then you said that they were identical "except for the swastika," and now you don't even offer that caveat.)
https://reason.com/volokh/2025/03/05/wednesday-open-thread-6/?comments=true#comment-10945427
And there's not a better way to protect democracy than trying to jail your primary political opponent. It's so obvious. Only really free societies use state police powers against the political opposition. Nothing fascist about that at all. And not just political opponents, why to protect the freedom of the press, the Biden administration targeted whistleblowers and used the IRS to intimidate journalists. Someday we will fully appreciate their efforts to protect us, in a totally non-fascist way of course, with the full force and power of the police state.
Trump made up emergencies in his first term too (e.g., to fund the wall), so I don't think this rationalization works.
You hating Wickard shouldn't mean Trump gets your tepid support to break whatever laws he wants.
Nah, I'm not supporting him, but the hypocrisy of anybody who is only offended by Trump's unconstitutionality, and doesn't even blink at the federal leviathan, is incredible.
It's like a mob boss complaining about his car being stolen.
Yet another problem with what abouting is that it then makes it more difficult to end the cycle. It's OK for my guy to ignore the Constitution because your guy ignores the Constitution, and it's OK for your guy to ignore the Constitution because my guy ignores the Constitution. So everybody gets a free pass to continue ignoring the Constitution.
The immediate problem happens to be with your guys because they are actually in power, and trying to end the cycle is only hampered by you harping on stuff that happened in the past. Maybe we have a conversation about the immediate problem. When my guys are again ignoring the Constitution -- as they will -- we can talk about them then.
Then let's talk about ending the damned cycle, instead of just stopping Trump.
What can we do to limit Presidents, not President Trump?
What can we do that will matter on January 21st, 2029? Because I have vanishingly little interest in JUST reining in Trump, and nobody else.
This is like when one complains about bad schools in a given area or the like, and the leftist response is, "We need to discuss the structural inequalities created by capitalism." No, we need to improve the schools.
If you want to separately focus on supposed 'root causes', go ahead. But that's not a substitute for fixing the damn schools, now.
Any laws or amendments you want to propose to rein in the presidency as an institution, Brett, be my guest. But that's not a response to "This particular president is rounding up people based on their speech" or "imposing insane economy-destroying tariffs" or whatever.
"This is like when one complains about bad schools in a given area or the like, and the leftist response is, "We need to discuss the structural inequalities created by capitalism." No, we need to improve the schools."
Yeah, it would be like that if all the schools were bad. The way all the Presidents are usurping power.
I want to focus on root causes because every damn President and Congress in my life has been a nightmare, save maybe Carter, who was mostly just ineffectual. But only mostly.
And I've no interest in targeting Trump exclusively, because he's at least being nightmarish in the service of causes I approve of, rather than nightmarishly pursuing causes I object to. So it's root causes or nothing so far as I'm concerned.
You want to put both Rommel and Patton on the docket for war crimes, I'm all ears. You want to just try Patton, and leave Rommel to continue marauding around? That's not an interest in justice, you just want the other side winning.
So you're really a radical outlier as compared to most Americans.
And you have no perspective between pushing on the boundaries versus going full authoritarian.
he's at least being nightmarish in the service of causes I approve of
Why would you admit this?
Just to clarify, you approve of unmarked police grabbing people off the street without a bench warrant and flying them to detention centers in distant states to separate them from people who might help them and then fly them to US-funded foreign prisons without due process? This nightmare is in support of a cause you approve of?
If those people are here illegally, then yes, I do approve of that.
Even if that were moral, Trump is doing it to people who are here entirely legally.
nightmarishly pursuing causes I object to.
You know, Brett, it's often quite difficult to separate the cause from the methods involved in achieving it, ends and means, you know.
Just look at mass deportation. He doesn't want to give potential deportees any kind of due process, because there are too many, and it would take too long, and so what if the Constitution says otherwise.
Now, he's right of course, that holding hearings for millions of people would take a long time and largely be impractical, so doesn't want to bother. So do you support the goal, recognizing this problem, and that he will try to do it, already has, without due process?
Because I don't see how you can support one without the other.
I support the goal and his actions, because I don't believe that these migrants are entitled to any level of due process from a normative standpoint, irrespective of what the law currently says.
How do you know that they aren't citizens if you don't give them any process before deporting them?
Ok. So you're a bigot and a fascist.
Any other parts of the Constitution you think it's OK for Trump to ignore?
Uh huh. Let's say a Dem is elected in '28, as is likely. After all, given four years of gross stupidity, childish cruelty & malice, continual lawlessness, and more lies than grains of sand in a beach, who's going to vote for the GOP? (I wonder at the Vances, Rubios, and Noems who agreed to be part of this toxic clown show. Trump's stench will never wash off).
So a Democrat is in the White House in 2029. Let's suppose he governs as lawlessly as Trump. Let's say he plows thru every guardrail; ignores every democratic standard or convention; rules by executive orders that have little or no legal foundation.
You, Brett Bellmore, will not complain. Per you, this is just normal stuff. "Così fan tutte", you'll say ( so do they all ). They'll be no bitching & whining from our Brett because this Democrat will be no different than Trump, who was no different than Biden, who was no different than Obama, the Bushes, or Reagan. Except they all lied more than Trump (per Brett), since DJT only engages in "braggadocio" & that doesn't count.
That your story now. Somehow I suspect it will be different then.
Oh, it's worse than that. Assuming a Democrat is elected in 2028, how many Democrats will believe themselves entirely justified in blowing through guardrails and engaging in criminal lawlessness just to make up for the last four years of Trump? Not saying they'll be right -- they won't be -- but that's the position they'll take.
That seems inevitable, at least to a degree. For instance, let's say Trump succeeds in gutting current civil service protections and replaces thousands of government workers with his flunkies. The Democrats following will do the same, and the Republicans after likewise. So every 4-8yrs we'll have a massive turnover in what were nonpartisan professional positions previously. And this will come with an obvious cost.
You'd think someone like Brett could look two inches beyond his nose and anticipate things like that. But, nah, he's too well entertained by this pro-wrestling-style president to care about the future. Plus, he (and his side) have been the "victims" of a thousand imaginary conspiracies and injured by a million fantasy slights. That's one reason I could never be a right-winger: I find victimhood boring.
In today's Right, continuous victimhood is the very air they breathe - like mother's milk or manna from heaven. Victimhood is the warm bath they slip into with a ecstatic sigh. Victimhood is their ever-present balm and comfort. Victimhood is their be all & end all.
And so useful too! It can excuse ANYTHING.....
You mean, a Democrat could be elected in 2028, and the bureaucracy might go back to being dominated by people like Sarcastr0? The status quo ante might return if Trump succeeds, and then is replaced by a Democrat?
Oh, dear. I guess he'd better just leave it dominated by people like Sarcastr0, then. No point in a respite from perpetual Democratic control of the bureaucracy if it's only going to last a few years...
I've never bent or broken a rule or made any policy or program decision for partisan reasons. Honestly, it doesn't often come up.
I work with Trump supporters, and those who don't vote because Bernie Sanders isn't on the ticket.
We do our jobs well. We're all equally fucked over by this administration.
Democratic control of the bureaucracy is something you've made up. Assuming everyone is as unprofessional and partisan as you.
"blowing through guardrails"
Like indicting the opposition leader?
Done already.
If the opposition leader actually committed a crime.
Do you think the Moral Majority, back in the late 20th, could envision a future where the Republican president had openly admitted to sexually abusing women and then convicted on 34 related felonies that the common person would understand to be rape? And to have Republicans outraged that anyone would even consider indicting a rapist for rape or openly pay off their porn star hookers that they fooled around with while their wife was pregnant? And to have Evangelical Christians see the man as holy?
It's like we're in an episode of Black Mirror.
Being judged a rapist by common understanding and the 34 criminal convictions were separate things. Also, the point of paying off the porn star was not doing it openly. And the Moral Majority was always about hypocrisy and power, so they would have leapt to support Trump if they believed he could win, just like the GOP after the 2016 election.
You're describing what Biden did from 2020-2024.
yes defending your hypocricy and double standards by crying what about ism.
That's funny, when you attacked Planned Parenthood because it had an unsavory past, and I asked if that standard would also apply to religion, which also has an unsavory past, you criticized me for engaging in what aboutism and refused to answer my question.
Looks like you're just about the biggest hypocrite here.
Planned Parenthood has an unsavory present.
You say that because you're a fetus worshipper. And so do a lot of religions.
This is Bob from Ohio. He doesn't have any values; he probably laughs at fetuses that get aborted. He says it because the people he dislikes are pro-Planned Parenthood.
A Woman of No Importance : "Looks like you're just about the biggest hypocrite here"
There's a ton of competition but, yes, Joe_dallas should medal at least.
I wasn't talking to you; your normalization of Trump is a deeply worn groove in your brain and every comment you write.
As is your support for him, which is a lot more than tepid despite your pro-forma protestations.
Total non sequitur. Those are not remotely related.
Yeah, I agree. Yes, unconstitutional, but the complaint rings kind of hollow from anybody who has any tolerance for today's federal government, most of which is unconstitutional.
Well, it violates the Bellmore Constitution, anyway. You have an unfortunate habit of mixing that one up with the US Constitution.
Eh. Turns out there's way more interstate commerce today than there was in 1789!
Having said that, I agree that the current interpretation of interstate commerce is probably overly expansive. But I think a proper reading might make 20% of current laws at risk rather than 90%. That's purely intuition, though, not based on any reasonable survey of actual laws.
Yes, there's way more interstate commerce today than in 1789, and very few conservatives have any issue acknowledging that. But the problem is not that Congress regulates more of that interstate commerce. It's with the regime that allows congress to regulate things solely because they "affect" interstate commerce, no matter how tenuous the effect.
A robbery of any business, including a lemonade stand, can be prosecuted in the federal system, on the grounds that the stealing of that money is "diminution of business assets" and leads to the business owner having less money to buy goods in interstate commerce.
Any legal system where that "argument" has the force of law is a joke. Modern America is a joke.
Ilya: Trump bad, Illegal Aliens good. Rinse & repeat.
How many Democratic governors used the EXACT same reasoning to lockdown the economy during Covid? JB the Hutt still has emergency powers related to Covid. Same with stretchin Gretchen. As always, it's OK for my team to be totalitarian, but not OK for your team.
Utterly different laws. Federal, not state. Actual emergency,
And good lord your nicknames are awful.
Other than that great post.
Nope, the argument that there's no emergency here is that illegal immigrants being present isn't new. It's not an emergent problem.
By the time governors were using emergency powers on the basis of Covid, legislatures had plenty of time to act in normal order, so, no emergency there, either.
I think we simul-posted but is the argument valid that an existing problem can never rise to an emergency? Perhaps the problem has always been there but it has just gotten worse to push the needle from "not an emergency" to "emergency."
Perhaps also a previous administration might not have believed that a certain status constituted an emergency, but a new administration believes that it does. Should one administration forever bind a future one?
I also understand how that power can be grossly abused as I believe it was during Covid.
a legal emergency should need to be a novel problem. It may still be an emergency in some normal sense, but it's no longer an 'emergency' in the sense that it requires the executive to take unilateral action, because once the legislature has time to act, it's the legislature's job to choose what the policy will be, not the executive. An executive implements law. They should not create law except in extraordinary circumstances.
The emergency presented by a pandemic exists as long as the disease is able to expand rapidly through the population. I would expect a pandemic to be an emergency, at a minimum, up until we fully understand how it spreads and have some means to prevent spread. For COVID, that would be at least through distribution of the vaccine.
A legislature passing a law doesn't do anything with regard to an ongoing, extraordinary event that is impacting large swaths of the country.
Maybe in the first couple of weeks it was an "actual emergency" although a virus which kills 0.1% of people infected is debatable. Nonetheless these emergency powers continued for months and years after the "emergent" threat of Covid, after a time when the legislatures had an opportunity to meet and enact laws which they deemed appropriate to counteract Covid.
I think the criticism that the left has abused emergency powers is right on point.
Utterly different laws. Federal, not state. Actual emergency,
You decided to go after the last one. Based on your personal opinion. Contradicted by courts. In a legal discussion.
Not gonna fly very far with that level of argumentation.
^^^^Chinese mole alert!! Covid was a bioweapon developed in a laboratory in Wuhan…it accidentally escaped but that doesn’t mean it was any less dangerous. Don’t attempt to rewrite history when everyone was alive and lived through the event. Let me guess, you also believe we found WMDs in Iraq and we lost manufacturing jobs after NAFTA??
Is there any declared emergency in the history of the US that *hasn't* been used to undermine constitutional liberties?
(Which is not to say no emergencies are justified, although many haven't been. But government seems to have a policy of 'never let a good emergency go to waste'. Even legitimate emergencies get abused by government to steal powers they shouldn't have).
You being mad about other stuff doesn't actually defend Trump's behavior.
Who was defending trump's behavior. If anything, my point is that emergency declarations are themselves problems, and should be far more restricted and restrictive.
You're defending Trump's behavior. You're still deflecting.
Oh good god, must be hard to find allies when anything but a full-throated targeted condemnation of Trump is 'defending' him.
I think Trump's behavior is a problem. I think his invocation of emergencies is wrong, and his ignoring of constitutional limits is wrong. Happy?
But literally every administration of my adult lifetime has been lawless and made grabs for ever-increasing amounts of power. (And that's not a claim it started then). If Trump is worse, it's largely because he's the most recent. (Power grabs compound over time, and move the overton window on future power grabs).
It's not a new crisis of governance. It's an ongoing, persistent, and growing crisis of governance. Trump is just a symptom of a long-festering disease.
https://www.history.com/articles/national-state-of-emergency-us-presidents
Seriously, "When Donald Trump started his second term on January 20, 2025, the United States had around 40 active emergency declarations...". And " the United States has been in a constant state of emergency since November 1979..." (And there was only a 3 year break in between Carter's declaration of a national emergency over Iran's seizing hostages, and congress finally ending FDR's 1933 national bank emergency).
This is the problem. Presidents have declared emergencies at the drop of a hat, solely to seize powers they shouldn't rightly have, and without the need for a congressional vote, and extended those emergencies long after there was no emergency. The system is the problem.
Constant declaring of emergencies requiring extralegal action is part of the dictatorship playbook. But as cultists here fall into two categories, those who want an authoritarian leader like Trump and those who want a totalitarian leader like Trump wants to become, they are unlikely to complain.
So you mean the last >90 years of US presidential administrations?
If you're going to be that stupid, fuck off to the main Reason pages.
If you had written "presidential emergencus" or just "emergencies" instead of "Trump's emergencies" I would have been wildly enthusiastic.
The New York Times today reports:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/15/us/politics/trump-border-military.html
The Posse Comitatus Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1385, states:
One more lawless action by the Trump administration.
You should change your screen name to Don Quixote.
Yesterday I read someone making an obvious point about the South African stunt. Yes, it was a nudge & wink to the sizable racist component of Trump's political base; that much is clear.
But the person suggested this also was a low huckster's (cheap) version of 4-dimensional chess. The Dems would point out the grotesque hypocrisy of the move and that could be sold to the perpetual victimhood wing of the GOP as another example of "whites suffering oppression".
(As a brief aside: I've been a white male for plus-65yrs and have yet to suffer an ounce of "oppression" for either trait. I see people wailing about the heavy burden of being white or male and bust a gut laughing hysterically. It's just so f**king pathetic)
But Trump's 4-dimensional chess relies on a oblivious and stupid American public. They have to be blind to a crude stunt and not smell the reek of Trump's bullshit. And I have a better opinion of my fellow citizens than that. Obviously, MAGA will slavishly believe whatever they're told; that's what they are. But others? Not so much.
Take Trump's Cartoon Immigration Theater as whole. I repeatedly saw comments here suggesting any criticism of DJT's lawless "disappearances" was a fiendish trap for the Dems, with focus on the Garcia case particularly toxic. But guess what happened? By 100days, Trump was underwater on immigration, just like everything else. Turns out the U.S. public isn't so gullible after all.
So, Don Quixote? Nah. People are listening.
The right wing echo chamber is more about jacking up Democrat negatives and keeping focus off Republican failures. So that’s why the right wing echo chamber is still focusing on the #fakenews that Biden was senile in 2020. The implication is now matter how irresponsible and corrupt Republicans are Democrats are more irresponsible and corrupt and so they are disqualified.
Yeah, white boomers had it well. White Millennials and Gen Zers have been oppressed plenty for their skin color.
Oh lookie!
Another "victim".....
Presidents have generally claimed it's OK to use troops as long as they're assisting rather than making arrests. It sounds like an artificial, phony distinction to me, but that's been the justification in the past and the Trump administration is making the same argument, e.g.:
"During a briefing with reporters, a senior U.S. military official said the 1,500-troop deployment would involve dispatching 1,000 Army personnel and 500 Marines, as well as helicopters, to the California and Texas border. The official said the troops would not engage in law enforcement, as federal law generally prohibits the use of the military for civilian law enforcement. Instead, the official said they would be tasked with helping CBP and erecting border barriers, to curtail illegal crossings."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-troops-us-mexico-border/
For comparison:
"The Biden administration plans to send 1,500 active-duty soldiers to the U.S.-Mexico border for 90 days, federal officials have announced.....Military “personnel have been supporting [Customs and Border Protection] at the border for almost two decades now, so this is a common practice,” White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters on Tuesday."
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-05-02/biden-authorizes-sending-1-500-troops-to-the-southern-border-title-42
I've been going through the Falfurrias checkpoint for decades, and sometimes it's a National Guardsman doing the questioning. I always assumed if they wanted to escalate they'd call over one of the CBP agents. The times I went to "secondary" it was an agent.
Again, not defending or whatabouting it. Just noting this has been a thing for quite a while.
Perhaps I should introduce you to Blackjack Pershing, and his (unsuccessful) campaign against Pancho Villa? Ordered by that pillar of progressivism, Woodrow Wilson. History may not repeat, but it does rhyme.
My cursory search does not show anybody screaming posse comitatus back in the day.
Beyond any actual historic border incursions, there is absolutely nothing wrong with US military forces today surveilling our borders. No matter how sinister you try and make that sound. Quite literally a legitimate function of a national military force.
Let's say it all together now: Orange! Man! Bad! That magical incantation makes things illegal that are actually perfectly legal.
My cursory search does not show anybody screaming posse comitatus back in the day.
"The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
Come on, man.
That just sounds like an idiotic argument.
Using the Army to defend the nation's borders by sending it to the border is literally what it was designed to do.
Ilya is someone who is excessively and uncritically devoted to a particular ideology, to the point where he is are unable to see the flaws or limitations of that ideology, or the validity of opposing viewpoints.