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Should a Killer's Victim Be Able to "Speak" at a Sentencing Through AI?
An Arizona trial court judge allowed this innovative approach to presenting a victim impact statement, which seems like a useful step toward justice.
Last week, the road-rage killer of an Arizona man was sentenced to 10 1/2 years in prison after his victim "spoke" to the court via a victim impact statement (VIS) created through artificial intelligence. The trial court judge allowed the victim's family to play an AI-generated video with a version of the victim—including his face and body and a lifelike voice—which appeared to ask the judge for leniency. The family has posted the statement here on YouTube. The defendant was apparently sentenced to the maximum term and has promised to challenge the statement on appeal. In my view, this kind of statement seems like a useful technological innovation that should be generally allowed, subject to reasonable limitations imposed by the trial court (which I discuss at the end of this post).
In this post, I discuss this AI-generated victim-impact statement against the backdrop of the existing legal landscape in this country. All fifty states and the federal system allow victims to deliver victim impact statements, as I outline in this article. (Interestingly, many other countries use some form of victim impact statement as well.) In homicide cases such as this Arizona case, the victim's family members step into his shoes as his representative to deliver the statement. I have made the general case for allowing victim impact statements in two papers, "In Defense of Victim Impact Statements" and "How Victim Impact Statements Promote Justice: Evidence from the Content of Statements Delivered in Larry Nassar's Sentencing" (co-authored with Professor Edna Erez). The U.S. Supreme Court has also approved victim impact statements even in capital cases, in Payne v. Tennessee (1991). To be sure, academics such as Professor Susan Bandes and Professor Mike Vitiello have raised objections to VISs. But for purposes of this post, I will assume that the legitimacy of VISs and address the narrower question of whether an AI-generated statement should be permitted.
This question should be assessed in light of the recognized purposes of victim impact statements. The first purpose is to provide relevant information to the sentencers, often (as in this Arizona case) a judge. This purpose has been described as the "informational rationale" for victim impact statements. Through a VIS, the victim's family members are allowed to provide "a quick glimpse of the life" the defendant "chose to extinguish," thereby reminding the sentencer that "the person whose life was taken was a unique human being," as Justice O'Connor explained in her concurring opinion in Payne. An AI-generated statement simply builds on that approach.
An AI-generated statement is not too far removed from previously used technologies, which help to provide the glimpse into the victim's life. For example, in homicide trials, it has long been the practice to allow the prosecution to introduce a photograph of the victim taken when the victim was alive. For example, a Utah statute (enacted in 1994 to enforce Utah's Victims' Rights Amendment) provides that "[i]n any homicide prosecution, the prosecution may introduce a photograph of the victim taken before the homicide to establish that the victim was a human being, the identity of the victim, and for other relevant purposes." Of course, in a criminal case by the time of sentencing, the defendant has been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and so issues related to potential bias while determining guilt are no longer in play.
At sentencing, appellate courts have approved of video montages of photographs of a victim and even videos of a victim. For example, in 2009, the California Supreme Court considered the admissibility in a death penalty case of an eight-minute video of the victim and his family enjoying a trip to Disneyland. The Court rejected a defendant's challenge, calling the tape an "awkwardly shot 'home movie'" lacking the elements generally designed to stir up emotions." People v. Dykes, 209 P3d 1, 44-45 (Cal. 2009).
However, such videos can go too far. For example, in 2004, a federal district court excluded a victim video in a death penalty case. The court explained that the video, made for a memorial service, "was about twenty-seven minutes in length and featured over 200 still photographs of the victim, in roughly chronological order, from the time he was born until the time just before his death. The pictures were set to evocative contemporary music, including that of the Beatles and James Taylor." This video, the court concluded, when too far "because its probative value was outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, and created a danger of provoking undue sympathy and a verdict based on passion as opposed to reason." United States v. Sampson, 335 F. Supp. 2d 166, 191 (D. Mass. 2004). At the same time, however, the district court noted that other courts had allowed some video clips to be used, but in "each of these cases, the admitted video was brief and found to be probative of some aspect of the victim's life."
An AI-generated statement is simply a technological advance on this tradition of victim videos, and thus helps to address one of the core problems that VIS are designed to address. If no victim statement is allowed, it turns the killer's victim "into a faceless stranger" and thus "deprives the State of the full moral force of its evidence," as the U.S. Supreme Court recognized in Payne. Through the AI-generated statement in this Arizona case, the victim—Christopher Pellkey—was no longer a "faceless stranger" to the proceedings but rather a unique human being whose life the defendant extinguished.
In determining whether an AI-generated statement should be allowed, it is also useful to compare two situations. Suppose the defendant has seriously injured a victim by striking a non-deadly blow. In that case, the victim himself is allowed to deliver a victim impact statement about what happened. For comparison, suppose that the defendant has killed a victim by intentionally striking a lethal blow. In that case, the victim is obviously unavailable to deliver his own statement. An AI-generated statement is simply a technological substitute for the fact that the defendant has criminally chosen to make the victim unavailable. In balancing the equities between an innocent victim and a killer, of course, the equities lie with the victim and his family representatives. Because the defendant has chosen to commit his deadly crime, any doubts should be resolved against him in deciding whether an artificially created substitute for the victim is an appropriate response to the victim's absence .
This fairness point was emphasized by Justice Souter's in his concurring opinion in Payne, where he explained:
Murder has foreseeable consequences. When it happens, it is always to distinct individuals, and, after it happens, other victims are left behind. Every defendant knows, if endowed with the mental competence for criminal responsibility, that the life he will take by his homicidal behavior is that of a unique person, like himself, and that the person to be killed probably has close associates, "survivors," who will suffer harms and deprivations from the victim's death.
Just as defendants know that they are not faceless human ciphers, they know that their victims are not valueless fungibles; and just as defendants appreciate the web of relationships and dependencies in which they live, they know that their victims are not human islands, but individuals with parents or children, spouses or friends or dependents. Thus, when a defendant chooses to kill, or to raise the risk of a victim's death, this choice necessarily relates to a whole human being and threatens an association of others, who may be distinctly hurt. The fact that the defendant may not know the details of a victim's life and characteristics, or the exact identities and needs of those who may survive, should not in any way obscure the further facts that death is always to a "unique" individual, and harm to some group of survivors is a consequence of a successful homicidal act so foreseeable as to be virtually inevitable.
A second purpose for victim impact statements is to serve expressive and communicative functions that can produce therapeutic benefits for victims (and, in homicide cases, for their families). This therapeutic rationale for victim statements is well supported by the field of therapeutic jurisprudence or "TJ." And the AI-generated statement in the Arizona case illustrates this purpose well. In the statement, "Christopher Pellkey" (as reconstructed through AI) gets to give his last goodbyes to his family and friends, in the formal setting of the sentencing of his killer. Pellkey's AI-generated last words are haunting, but might reasonably be expected to provide some small measure of comfort to his family and friends:
Thank you to everyone for being here. It means more than you know. Well, I'm gonna go fishin' now. Love you all. See you on the other side.
A third purpose for victim impact statements is to explain the full harm of the defendant's crime—to the defendant. This purpose is unrelated to the sentence that is ultimately imposed in the case, but rather rests on the consequences of a victim looking the "defendant in the eye and let[ting] him know the suffering his misconduct has caused" (as the Ninth Circuit as explained in its Kenna decision, 435 F.3d 1011, 1016 (9th Cir. 2006)). To be sure, eye-to-eye contact between victim and defendant is not physically possible in a homicide case. But an AI-generated substitute might begin to serve the same purpose of encouraging the defendant to work toward rehabilitation.
This particular Arizona victim impact statement provides a good illustration. In the statement, the reconstructed Pellkey speaks directly to the defendant:
To Gabriel Horcasitas, the man who shot me: It is a shame that we encountered each other on that day in those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have been friends. I believe in forgiveness and God who forgives. I always have. And I still do.
The final purpose of a victim impact statement is serving a public educative function. Even critics of such statements have conceded that they can potentially work towards this goal. For example, Professor Bandes admits that VISs might serve to "call[] attention to crimes that are poorly understood and underenforced." Here again, Pellkey's AI-generated statement illustrates this point. The statement powerfully illustrates the far-reaching harms and lasting consequences of road rage escalations. Hopefully someone, somewhere will view that statement on YouTube and think twice before escalating to deadly force. Of course, that hope is speculative, and no one knows for certain whether the statement will produce any public benefit. But it seems worth a try.
When an AI-generated victim impact statement is allowed in a homicide case, the trial court should scrutinize it to ensure it meets several criteria:
- The statement should be reasonably related to describing the impact of the crime, as that is an underlying purpose of the statement. In other words, the statement should be focused on providing "a quick glimpse of the life" the defendant chose to extinguish.
- The statement should not personally attack the defendant or speak to issues beyond the scope of a legitimate victim impact statement. For example, the Utah Supreme Court reversed a sentence in murder case where the victim's family members used their victim impact statement to call the defendant a "terrorist" who could not be rehabilitated. The Court concluded that these characterizations were unduly prejudicial and went beyond the bounds of an appropriate victim impact statement. State v. Ott, 2010 UT 1. An AI-generated statement would need to respect such boundaries as well.
- The statement should focus on the victim who was killed without inviting comparative judgments to others in the community. One of the criticisms of VISs is that they invite the sentencer to decide who is a "worthy" and "unworthy" victim. Payne responded to this concern, explaining that "victim impact evidence is not offered to encourage comparative judgments of this kind—for instance, that the killer of a hardworking, devoted parent deserves the death penalty, but that the murderer of a reprobate does not. It is designed to show instead each victim's uniqueness as an individual human being." An AI-generated statement would need to follow that path as well.
- The statement should respect any restrictions imposed in the jurisdiction or the particular case about whether a sentencing recommendation by the victim or victim's family is allowed. In capital cases, for example, current Supreme Court precedent (Bosse v. Oklahoma) does not permit a victim's family to give an opinion, one way or the other, about whether a death penalty should be imposed. An AI-generated statement should not be used to circumvent that limitation.
- Finally, the statement should follow whatever reasonable time limitations and other restrictions the trial judge might choose to impose. The Arizona statement was less than four minutes long. In my research on the Nassar victim impact statements, Professor Erez and I found that the sex assault victims' statements averaged about 1,200 words or eight minutes in length. Of course, what is a reasonable length would need to be assessed by the trial judge handing a particular case against the backdrop of that case and the judge's docket management needs.
One additional concern an AI-generated statement raises is whether the technology will be available to all victims' families, regardless of their financial circumstances. It is unclear how much this Arizona statement cost to produce. As AI-technology becomes more broadly available, no doubt the cost to create such a statement will fall substantially. But in the immediate short term, prosecutor's offices and victim service organizations should be alert to resource disparities and try to arrange pro bono or other low-cost help to victim's families who wish to use such statement.
As it advances, AI will offer important innovations in many areas of law and life. The desirability of each of those innovations will need to be assessed on its own merits. The innovation of an appropriate, non-prejudicial AI-generated victim impact statement appears to be a positive one.
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All victim impact statements ought to be banned. If the law is supposed to be blind why does it matter whether a murder victim is mother of five or a homeless man? Allowing victim impacts statements does nothing more than tie the verdict, at least in part, to the eloquence of the victims rather than an objective legal principle. Pointing to the fact that multiple jurisdictions participate in an unjust practice does nothing to make it more acceptable.
And even if you do allow it, an AI simulacrum of a victim's whole purpose is to get the emotional attachment, and not delivery of impact factoids, which does not need that. Yes, it sucks the actual victim isn't there, and maybe emotion should be part of this. But they should argue so directly and not play this game.
And none of this addresses the creative and possibly sketchy emotionality of the simulacrum itself. Oh, look. Is it starting to cry? In other contexts, hearsay evidence is not allowed. What about AI making things up out of whole cloth, then starting to blubber? That emotion is made up, too, if it gets anywhere near such a thing.
I tend to agree with your position, at least to the extent I understand where you stand. The argument for a victim impact statement is separate from the argument for allowing an AI to impersonate the victim. I see more negative than positive in the AI.
The obvious questions with an AI victim impact statement include:
1. Who gets to decide what the victim impact statement should say? For example, should the accused murderer be allowed to introduce a victim impact statement in which the victim says "My life was horrible and I planned to commit suicide later that day. Please do not punish my killer."?
2. Who decides the demeanor and appearance of the victim? If the victim was ill or dying of cancer does the impact statement have to show him haggard and pain ridden or can he look healthy and full of life?
3. How far does this go? For example, can the prosecution show AI (or human with Photoshop) generated pictures of the victim with his family that were never photographed? If so, do they have to be as realistic as possible (ie. backed by testimony that the events depicted happened as depicted) or can they be fantasies (for example a picture of the defendant climbing a mountain with his wife when he never climbed a mountain in his life)?
4. Why even bother with AI? Can we have an actor pretend to be the victim and deliver a victim impact statement? Then it can be in person with more impact than a video on a computer screen.
I'm all for convicting criminals and executing murderers and I generally support victim statements but this is plainly wrong.
I think the idea is if the court has to listen to all possible mitigating evidence the defendant offers on the grounds of getting a total picture of the crime it has to hear about the impact on the victim and their loved ones. But, here I agree with Brett on this particular take.
Prof. Cassell seems to focus almost this entire post on justifying victim impact statements. But he has already won that battle, so it's all just superfluous. The matter at issue here is whether a fake victim impact statement can be used. Would we allow the family to hire an actor to portray the victim and deliver such a statement? If not, why would we allow the family to hire a computer to portray the victim and deliver such a statement?
That was my first thought -- would hiring an actor be allowed?
Well, hell, the victim isn't around, and even with victim prosecution, the victims wouldn't be the actual murder victim, but the kith and kin who lost a friend, and whether it's them or the government, the prosecuting lawyer is a hired gun playing a role. What next, letting the government hire an actor or generate the AI?
What a crock. Makes even more of a mockery of Rule of Law.
100%
We literally can't even know what the victim would have said if he had given a victim impact statement.
"We literally can't even know what the victim would have said"
Someone in her family made this statement in reality. You have to prompt AI, right? So the prompt asked the computer to make a leniency argument because the prompter wanted leniency, not the dead person.
It also had the opposite effect apparently. If the prompter wanted leniency and had a sincere and genuine belief that the deceased would too, it would have been more effective to just tell the court about what they knew about his values and outlook on things.
The AI was used to animate his likeness and synthesize his voice: the actual script was written by his sister. (It says as much on the YouTube link.)
Being a crime victim is often traumatic and can have profound effects on people’s personalities and character. You could guess what a person might say based on what you know about them. But you’d truly have no idea what they’d say if they actually could. A person who was a victim of an assault or theft or something might have a much different take on their situation than you might otherwise expect them to based on what you know about them!
We literally know you're literally a literal Mo-ron by your use of "literally", just save some literal keystrokes and say "Duh" instead
Why do we assume that a technology known to have hallucinations -- fabricated authorities in legal briefs and the like -- in the real world wouldn't also have them in recreating a dead person's statement?
I agree. What's next? Having an AI of Jesus saying how the defendant should be punished? The question of WWJD is just as unknowable as what the dead victim would want.
Has anyone EVER had that conversation with a loved one? "You know, if I was murdered under X circumstances by a person with Y characteristics and Z criminal history, I would want leniency for that person."
ETA: The defendant here may have a problem with harmless error. The AI did recommend leniency. How was he harmed?
Even if one were to accept that it would be OK to have an actor portray the victim and deliver a victim impact statement (a proposition that Cassell fails to establish), using AI in place of an actor would still be problematic. People generally understand that an actor is reciting lines written for him without regard to their truth. AI is new enough, and evolving fast enough, that their is no broad cultural understanding of how to interpret it. I suspect that at least some people will treat AI as a technology that lets us know what the victim would have said if the victim were still alive, and give the AI generated victim statement a level of credibility that they would not give to an actor’s portrayal of the victim.
Cassell tells us that “Pellkey's AI-generated last words are haunting,” which I take to mean that the AI wrote the script. So we have a victim statement written by a writer who has never met the victim, and who (probably unlike the actual victim) has a talent for writing haunting prose. The statement is read by an actor. And we may give the result a level of credibility it doesn’t deserve by having the writer and actor functions performed by AI, which some people will trust more than mere humans.
Would the Defendant be permitted to offer into evidence at sentencing an AI generated statement -- not subject to cross-examination -- describing the decedent as a scoundrel who needed killing?
(Not that that would likely be persuasive, but my question is about admissibility.)
Is this some kind of joke?
Even if, contra Not a Lawyer, victim impact statements should be permitted, this wasn't a statement by the victim. We have no idea what the victim would have actually said, they're dead, it's just their family putting words in the victim's mouth and using technology to make it look like they said them.
I'm confused. The AI statement requested leniency, but the defendant got the maximum sentence?
Probably not, might be awkward for the killer
"I'm really sad that I'm dead now. I miss my family and will never see them again."
Sure, seems useful. Maybe it can be set to music and have a slow-motion video of the victim's kids crying in the background.
I know you think you’re clever but that’s not a bad idea, except the people who knew you wouldn’t be crying
Frank knows a lot about making up people!
Sort of early in the month for you to be a-hollerin bout' the back rent, I got till the end of the month till I be a month late, you think you can let me slide it on?
When I first read this story the legal issues weren’t even at the front of my mind. There was something more fundamentally disturbing and almost anti-human about the whole thing. Living humans who have lost someone often will be like “so and so would have loved X” or speak about the person they knew. But they typically don’t try and reconstruct people and put words in their mouths. Even before computers, humans have recognized that phantoms of the dead, like ghosts or zombies, are grotesque imitations of the real thing. A bizarre simulacrum that we know isn’t the real thing. Trying to resurrect the dead, outside of the power of God himself, is generally seen as profoundly disturbing and is consistently the subject of cautionary tales. As a human matter, we simply shouldn’t do this.
This is called false testimony.
Would concocted material attributed to a dead person be allowed PreAI? What if the party presenting it while admitting it was fake claimed it would be very accurate to what would have been said because the writer who confabulated it had access to a few letters and photos of them and thus could build a highly accurate window into what sort of person they really were?
If not then why should it be allowed now?
Let's go whole hog:
AI judge, jury, and attorneys. Even an AI rendition of the defendant would be alright. The whole process could be done in the cloud, and "trials" could be run 24/7. This should eliminate any docket backlog possibility.
The physical world defendant could just wait in prison, saving the government any travel and security costs. The wait won't be long because these virtual trials will run really fast. Probably just a few seconds.
People watching Star Trek in 1967: wow why would an entire society let themselves be commanded by a computer named Landru. That’s pretty insane!
TechBros today: AI can replace most human jobs except Venture Capitalist. Here’s an AI judge and jury I made, I call it Landru.
On Beta III, they also had "The Festival," an annual 12-hour period of anarchy and debauchery. Live long and prosper.
Why involve the physical defendant? Just sentence his AI simulacrum to prison.
Hi Michael P,
I'm not sure if you are seriously suggesting sentencing the defendant in his absence, but the defendant has a constitutional right to be sentenced in court in person because a defendant has a right to allocute at sentencing--in person. See, e.g., Green v. U.S., 365 U.S. 301 (1961). So too, a victim now generally possesses a right to allocute at sentencing--in person. When due to a criminal homicide by the defendant, the victim is prevented from allocuting in person, the issue of what substitute to make necessarily arises.
No, it doesn't.
@Paul,
Michael is suggesting sentencing an AI simulacrum to prison - imprisoning the AI rather than the human defendant.
He is obviously being sarcastic - using this to argue the absurdity of allowing an AI victim statement.
I think his conclusion is correct but his argument is flawed - these are not analogous.
I don’t appreciate these spoilers for Black Mirror Season 7.
That is exactly what I was going to comment. Sounds like a Black Mirror episode.
This seems like a rare occurrence of posters from widely-differing political perspectives, and indeed from all across the political spectrum, agreeing on something.
I was just noting that as well. It's pretty interesting.
Dumbest thing I read today. The judge that allowed this should be sent for a psych evaluation.
"Well, I'm gonna go fishin' now." Really?
Simulated fishing via VR headset. Cmon Bob. Its the AI world. Get with the times old man.
"VR headset"
She's dead. No head to attach a headset to.
Similar but different, I posted this amusing item a while back:
Guy attempts to have AI-generated character appear as his lawyer in court
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkmfZPt-gaw
Next we can hire Michael Bay to direct the victim impact movie/statement.
Can't believe the judge even allowed it. It is completely fake. The AZ supreme court should step in.
Suppose you trained the AI on video footage taken throughout a victims life, and in one instance, the victim was a member of hamas. So the AI says, "We want to kill all the Jews" because the victim was a raging antisemite (a hamas member)? Then what?
No way this can be allowed.
As mentioned in the original post, a trial judge should review AI-generated victim impact statements (like all victim impact statements) for unduly prejudicial or otherwise inappropriate material. The material you mention would be inappropriate and would need to be excluded. Here, the trial judge (according to press reports) reviewed all of the statement and found it helpful. He even thanked the victims family for presenting it.
At this stage, the jury has been dismissed and its just the judge hearing the statement. So what good is the judge "excluding" the statement?
Hi Bob from Ohio,
The judge should exclude such information to make clear that the "record" in the case does not include unduly prejudicial or otherwise inappropriate material. Indeed, one advantage of an AI-generated victim impact statement (versus oral testimony) is that it could be reviewed in advance, by both the judge and defendant, for appropriateness.
You'just advocating for emotionally manipulative fiction, not anything that serves justice.
Professor, I am not mollified. ISTM that an actual victim should speak, not a projection of someone. They are different.
Sort of like Ear-ron's tradition of letting the victim's famb-i-ly decide at the last minute whether or not to commute a death sentence, and there's also an option to give a non-fatal stab wound right before the execution, there was one case where the famb-i-ly was divided and a full scale brawl broke out right in front of the Gallows,
Frank "Your Death Sentence is hereby commuted......NOT!!!!!!"
As a concept, it's a pretty fascinating application of the current technology.
Practically though, I don't see how it can serve justice fairly. It's a pure emotional manipulation tactic, which I know lawyers do all the time in court, but this just seems wrong.
Betteridge's Law of Headlines to the rescue again!
Of course, this should not be allowed. An AI "recreation" is pure speculation, innuendo and emotional manipulation. Victim statements generally are almost always unduly prejudicial and suborne the goal of impartial fact-based justice. This puts the problem on steroids. And no, the judge is not inherently immune to the emotional manipulation and therefore cannot be the sole barrier to the bad ones.
I doubt real VIS are any less rehearsed and coached, even if only in their heads or informally. They might be more "real" in the delivery, but their words and facts aren't spontaneous.
The only purpose of VIS is to sway the judge. The other excuses are better obtained at the memorial service or with family in private.
I think I am in agreement with the comments here. As someone who practices a hefty amount of criminal defense...sentencing hearings are inherently emotional spectacles. For both sides. When someone is deceased because of the actions of the accused, the emotion is ratcheted up to 11 without simulated ghosts in the machine making statements.
If the victim's AI can make a statement; what about when the defendant's g/f is pregnant with their first child and the prison sentence means he is going to miss his child's birth? Can the defense magic up an AI baby's first smile...it's first steps... their first day of school?? AI baby voice...saying it's first 'da da' sounds? F all that. I don't like the door this is opening. Keep it shut (or at least restricted to living people).
And what if the dead victim was not a nice guy? What if the VIS are full of lies about what a kind wonderful loving person he was? Does the defendant get to bring in DIS about what a good student he is and how he was studying hard and helping around his neighborhood?
The whole thing is a crock, full of lies and emotion serving no purpose in the dispassionate production of justice.
Hi Stupid Government Tricks,
You make an interesting comment, because the defendant DOES IN FACT get to make a defense impact statement or otherwise allocute about all the good things he is doing. So it is, indeed, routine for defendants (and their lawyers) to collect character letters and other information that could show, for example, what a good student the defendant was and how he was helping around the neighborhood. And, on top of that, the defendant himself is allowed to allocute and say what a good student he was and otherwise make essentially any reasonable argument he wishes regarding the appropriate sentence. It is against that backdrop of an almost completely open-ended defense impact statement that questions about a victim impact statement need to be assessed.
Thanks for answering. I did not know about DIS. But it just convinces me more and more than there's something fishy about the whole thing. Who is the best actor and has the best scriptwriter? That's not justice.
I disagree. The focus should be on the defendant because that is the person who will be suffering the criminal penalty. We look at his good qualities, bad qualities, potential for rehabilitation, etc. and determine whether to go easy or hard.
The victim impact statement is largely devoid of any penological goals. I think most if not all of us would agree that there should not be staggered sentences, such that if I kill a homeless guy I get 10 years, but a father of three I get 25 to life. If we can agree on that, what is the purpose of the victim impact statement other than to cater to politicians who favor such things?
But this goes another step further. Assuming that victim impact statements are relevant, they should be statements OF victims, not pretend statements.
Looks like I'll be the only for this. I think it's great. First, the killer is alive and gets to say what he pleases. According to you lot, the deceased apparently cannot speak on his own behalf even if it is through the interpretations of the family members. Family can and should be able to express what they believe the deceased would think and say. And I think they should be able to do so via a simulacrum. It seems like an effective way to level the playing field with the living killer
Saying, "I think Bob would have wanted X" is vastly different than portraying Bob himself as saying he wants X.
Also, since we are being fair and all, can the defendant create an AI where the victim acts like a drunken fool and beats on his AI kids based on other evidence about the victim?
The victim has to have some voice from the grave, otherwise the killer disproportionally benefits from killing him
"Also, since we are being fair and all, can the defendant create an AI where the victim acts like a drunken fool and beats on his AI kids based on other evidence about the victim?"
That's just silly. You're supposing some fictitious movie with multiple characters, where the defendant - who knows nothing about the victim - gets to dictate the dialogue of the victim.
No. I am assuming that there is a previous conviction where the victim pled guilty to beating his kids. Can the defendant portray that through the AI with the AI kids wailing, "Please, daddy, don't hit me anymore!?
No, the victim doesn't "have to have some voice from the grave". The point of the trial is 'did he do it or not'. Victim impact statements do not advance that goal. Made-up, invented and speculative guesses about what a victim might have said are even worse.
I don't agree with the post, but that's not right. Victim impact statements come in at sentencing, when the point is not "did he do it?"
No, the point of the trial is not 'did he do it or not'. The point of the guilt phase of the trial is to determine whether the government has proven every element of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt.
A criminal trial is not a search for truth; it is a test of the government's evidence.
Doesn't mean we're going to slow dance together, but I agree with you.
I am against the practice of using AI or actors in this capacity for a number of reasons already mentioned.
I feel the need to point out though that some of us have relatives who even when not intoxicated have rough language and come from "an older time" where much of what is considered taboo or unacceptable now wasn't then...
It'd be absolutely hilarious, but I don't think the court would appreciate it. 🙂
Dude no. The whole point of testimony is that the person gives first hand information about the topic at hand. An AI generated victim statement is not testimony from the victim, it is round about testimony from a living person. That person should testify themselves.
It is fake evidence that should never be allowed.
This is not at all like using video of the actual victim. This is like hiring an actor to dress up as the victim to make a statement. It's a mockery.
If the court allows a AI victim to speak, it may as well allow the victim to speak through a medium in a courtroom séance.
No.
I'd be open to replacing the *judge* in this case with an intelligent AI.
The distinction between traditional victim impact statements and AI-generated statements is a difference in kind and not just a technological advancement of something that has always existed. Photos, video recordings, and even oral histories relayed by family members are all in some sense records of historical fact. On the other hand, an AI-generated video purporting to show what the victim "would say" if he were alive is an original creation that does not relay any true information. It is just an emotionally manipulative ploy.
"Your honor, my client deserves a lenient sentence because the prosecution could not provide an AI VIS, which they would surely have done had the victim's death been a grave loss to the community".
The fact that the defendant may not know the details of a victim's life and characteristics, or the exact identities and needs of those who may survive, should not in any way obscure the further facts that death is always to a "unique" individual, and harm to some group of survivors is a consequence of a successful homicidal act so foreseeable as to be virtually inevitable.
Stevens in dissent noted it was obvious that there was a "unique" individual. We could have a separate procedure where the public can find out the harm the killer caused and the resulting suffering. It is not appropriate for the specific purpose of the sentencing.
It is unclear how Souter would have decided the question if it had arisen later. Souter, early on, voted more conservatively in certain cases. Also, he might have opposed AI as seen by his concern about the nature of victim impact statements Kelly v. California.
(Souter supporting granting cert, unlike [apparently] seven justices)
"and harm to some group of survivors is a consequence of a successful homicidal act so foreseeable as to be virtually inevitable."
And also why this type of evidence is unnecessary. It is true in every case so not needed nor appropriate in any.
This is mainly the product of very low quality media coverage, but I wish people would get the facts right:
1. The words in the video were written by the victim’s sister. The AI came in to animate a picture of the victim and replicate his voice: it wasn’t trying to predict his personality or attitude about the case.
2. I don’t think it’s accurate to say that the video called for leniency. The character in the video says that he believes in forgiveness personally and that God forgives, but he doesn’t say anything about how that should affect the sentence. Indeed, there’s barely any mention of the defendant at all: it’s really one of the least inflammatory victim impact statements I’ve seen, but for the unusual framing.
3. Irrespective of the legal questions, this seems to be in awfully bad taste, and I hope we don’t see it imitated.