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What Should Trump's Circuit Nominees Look Like?
When President Trump's first term began, he inherited a slew of circuit court vacancies. However, for his second term, there are likely to be far fewer circuit court seats to fill. By my count, Trump can make appointments to fill one seat on the First Circuit (Maine), two seats on the Third Circuit (Delaware and New Jersey), one seat on the Sixth Circuit (Tennessee), one seat on the Seventh Circuit (Wisconsin), and one seat on the Ninth Circuit (California). (If I've forgotten any others, please email me).
What should Trump look for in filling these seats? In a series of writings, Mike Fragoso sketches out how Trump 2.0 judges may differ from Trump 1.0 judges.
At the Federalist, Fragoso explains:
The approach adopted to pick judges in 2017 worked extremely well. But, in the end, it's 2025, not 2017. The times and the law have changed, in no small part thanks to Trump's judicial appointments. While Trump will surely keep looking for talented and well-credentialed lawyers to put on the bench, he will hopefully adapt his methods to reflect the needs of today and anticipate those of tomorrow.
And what are those needs of today and tomorrow? Fragoso suggests that the type of nominee may depend on the balance of the circuit. At Public Discourse, Fragoso writes that Trump should appoint judges to liberal circuits that will appeal to Justice Barrett, the Court's median voter:
On circuits dominated by liberals (such as the First or Fourth or the District of Columbia), the only chance conservatives have is intervention by the Supreme Court. It therefore makes sense to find conservative judges for liberal courts who can effectively speak the language of [Barrett's] process-formalist originalism in order to optimize the chances of Supreme Court review.
In other words, lower-court judges who think like Barrett are more likely to catch Justice Barrett's attention in a cert petition.
By contrast, in conservative circuits, there is no need to appoint a Barrett-centric judge:
On circuit courts dominated by conservatives (such as the Third, the Fifth, the Sixth, or the Eighth), the opposite is probably the case. They don't need the Supreme Court to save them; they're typically the court of last resort. In that case the more William Rehnquists the better, because Barrett's jurisprudential inclination is not to police their day-to-day rulings.
I'm not sure this is accurate. Justice Barrett has a tendency to reverse the Fifth Circuit on a fairly regular basis.
At National Review, Fragoso applies this approach to the vacancy for Chief Judge Sykes's seat. (Fragoso clerked for Sykes). The Seventh Circuit is, more-or-less, a court in equipoise. Here is how Fragoso breaks down the votes:
What does this mean practically? It means that for conservatives to win at the Seventh Circuit, they must run the ball up the middle. There is simply not a cohesive conservative bloc on the court. Brennan is a movement conservative; Kirsch is a hard-nosed prosecutor conservative; Easterbrook is Easterbrook; St. Eve is an establishment conservative; Scudder is a moderate conservative; Kolar seems to be a conservative moderate; and Pryor seems to be a liberal moderate. Maldonado and Jackson-Akiwumi always hold down the left flank, usually joined by Lee.
You see the nomenclature: movement conservative, prosecutor conservative, establishment conservative, and moderate conservative. If you think all Republican-appointed judges are the same, you are quite wrong. By the way, I think Judge Brennan will soon be the Chief Judge of the Seventh Circuit. I hope Chief Justice Roberts is ready for a movement conservative on the Judicial Conference.
Fragoso explains that any nominee to succeed Sykes should not be a "movement conservative" or an "arch-conservative," but should instead be someone willing to persuade the more-moderate members of the en banc court.
To succeed en banc, then, conservatives will need to persuade three of Easterbrook, St. Eve, Scudder, and Kolar. The best way to do that is to replace Sykes with a judge who is smart, personable, and credible enough to help persuade those very smart, very experienced, and relatively non-doctrinaire members of the court to agree with him or her. The left flank is utterly unpersuasive on the Seventh, so there is an opportunity to turn the middle toward the right — but not if the right is perceived by the center as doctrinaire or otherwise non-credible. Replacing Sykes with an arch-conservative will yield some great dissents.
And in turn, that more moderate appointee can issue favorable rulings, without requiring the parties to seek cert:
This matters for a number of reasons. The Supreme Court simply doesn't grant cert anymore. Well, it does, but exceedingly rarely and never when you want it. So one must assume that politically salient cases will die in the circuit. This is important because Indiana is a conservative innovator state and Wisconsin is a political battleground. With those cases terminating in Chicago 99 percent of the time, it's more important to secure judgments than to own the libs with a stirring dissent.
This is a shot-across-the-bow at the sort of appointees from Trump's first term that have generated the most headlines. Indeed, the Trump judges have blown away the Obama judges in terms of citations. Many of those Trump noms are better at writing dissents than persuading moderate colleagues. But then again, what does it mean to persuade colleagues: dilute and water down a position to avoid saying anything important. If the goal is to simply get courts to generally vote in a conservative direction without actually advancing conservative jurisprudence, then Fragoso's advice makes a lot of sense. But, if one believes that judges take an oath to faithfully interpret the Constitution, and those votes should not be cast with an eye towards cobbling together an en banc majority, then Fragoso's advice is problematic.
In 2009, Laurence Tribe wrote that President Obama should select Elena Kagan for the Souter seat because she would be effective at bringing Justice Kennedy to the liberal wing of the Court. Fragoso is basically offering the same advice, but in reverse: Trump should select judges who will bring moderates to the right. On the Supreme Court at least, I don't think I've seen a moderate-conservative bring a moderate to the right. The ratchet seems to only go to the left. Can anyone really persuade Frank Easterbrook to do anything other than what Frank Easterbrook wants to do? If so, he would have probably taken senior status many years ago. Perhaps the one outlier is Chief Justice Roberts persuading Justices Breyer and Kagan to join his Medicaid Expansion ruling, but NFIB is sui generis in every way.
In my view, Fragoso's advice seems short-sighted, as balances of courts shift over time. Will Trump's legacy on the courts really be defined by appointing a bunch of personable and persuasive individuals who put originalism and textualism on the back-burner when the votes aren't there? I'm skeptical. As I've written, all Presidents should focus on nominees who have exhibited judicial courage, and stay away from nominees whose primary focus is on getting along. Indeed, lower court judges have a duty to flag issues for the Supreme Court review: there is a trickle-up relationship between lower courts, stare decisis, and originalism. I freely admit my approach may yield fewer favorable en banc votes. But from my position, at least, ideas matter more than fleeting majorities.
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What should they look like? Blonde, preferably.
Wearing cut-off blue jeans and MAGA hats and carrying AR-15s.
with blue eyes.
Like the royal Scythians and Pharaohs of old.
White, male
Fragoso's article is just nonsense. Trying to game the system is not going to work.
I say for the Tennessee de facto seat, pick a state supreme justice with proven very conservative opinions.
For the other seats, a Trump appointed district judge if available [assuming no heresy] or a politically active Trumpy politician/activist. Maybe look at people in DC now but a state native. For the NJ seat, the acting US attorney for NJ would be good.
Biden mainly appointed far left people. No need to go squisy now.
Before or after she gets disbarred?
Either
Sounds like this guy wants to fight fire with kindling, instead of gasoline. That's bizarre. If you want to move appeals courts over decades, you need to get as many of your people on the bench, period. Today doesn't matter. Eight years of Trump then Vance is what will move those courts, not soft backpeddlers. Go for the Scalia/Thomas model every time.
Why on earth do you think Donald Trump cares about "moving appeals courts over decades"?
Because he wants people, even decades from now, to agree he was a hugely consequential President?
I want them to be just as partisan and activist as the DC Circuit judges or these other ones judge shopped by Democrats, but FOR America instead AGAINST her, like the Democrat judges.
Presumably they should look like some combination of Fox News talking heads and people willing to buy lots of $Trumpcoin.
One day in the not too distant future, Josh’s name will be on the list. I know it, you know it, the other Conspirators know it, and I think he knows it.
Under 40, and very conservative. Simple criteria.
What makes you think that Trump (or Josh) cares about conservatism?
You almost have to admire the fact that no matter how many times Blackman gets mocked for this by his intellectual superiors, he keeps saying it.
Trump's circuit nominees? They should look like Trump's clown car cabinet, and Trump's clown car national security apparatus. When stuff is working like anyone would expect, stick with it.
He's just named Alina Habba for the NJ position. She's had a bit of a rocky time representing him. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alina_Habba
for more details.
You don't actually use wikipedia as an authoritative source for anything political do you?
If she could rather be pretty or smart, she would choose pretty. Because she can fake being smart. (Direct quote)
We got to see some of her amazing trial skills in action on t.v. And by amazing I mean ' holy shit they will give anyone a law degree.'
It was painful and Trump lost an 80million judgment involving E Jean Carroll.
But being acting US attorney for New Jersey might be one of the higher profile positions for a Widener University Commonwealth grad so she has that going for her, which is nice.
She's no Jenna Ellis.
I know what they should not be like. The author of this blog entry.
“ While Trump will surely keep looking for talented and well-credentialed lawyers to put on the bench”.
That Faraogo guy is hilarious.
Is Leonard Leo still picking Trump’s nominees?
While Trump will surely keep looking for talented and well-credentialed lawyers to put on the bench,
Hahahahaha
He will look for pliant judgers who will do what he wants, and anyone who says otherwise is either lying or stupid. He will certainly not have forgotten - because the one thing he has a loooong memory for is revenge - that some of his appointees last time around decided against him during the Big Lie of the "Steal".
Joe "81 Million" Biden. Ha ha/
Yet not a single piece of evidence suggesting otherwise has withstood judicial scrutiny at any level.
So you're just a sad conspiracy nut, like so many cultists.
yes
Deport members of TdA by all means. But don't deport people who aren't, and Having Tattoos While Hispanic is not (yet) a crime.
"Each vehemently denies being a member of Tren de Aragua," wrote Boasberg in his Monday ruling. "Several in fact claim that they fled Venezuela to escape the predations of the group, and they fear grave consequences if deported solely because of the Government's unchallenged labeling."
Perhaps some are outright lying. But unlike some of the sociopaths who regularly post here, I do not believe in blithely ignoring the possibility of innocence just because you don't like the guilty. There should be some minimum evidentiary safeguard more than just, "the Executive says so".
Wrong article. Rasssnfrassn
Like a gangbanger would tell the truth, SRG2.
No your honor, I have no idea how those tattoos got there. TdA, you say...who is that? 🙂
As you replied here, I note that an innocent person would also say they weren't a member of TdA. And not all tattoos are gang tattoos. Google "Razor Candi" (NSFW)
They can tell their story to the prison warden in El Salvador.
Oh, they vehemently denied it. vehemently!
So if someone denies they're a member of TdA, they're a member of TdA, right?
I think that Matthew Hopkins used similar reasoning when it came to finding witches.
Why are you and Commenter XY so cretinous here? We all know that if any actual member of TdA was picked up they'd deny membership, but most of us - excluding you and XY - are also intelligent enough to realise that someone who was not a member of TdA would also say that they were not members.
The judge wrote like the lady lawyer in A Few Good men, " I strenuously object".
Be honest - do you care at all whether a few innocent Venezuelans were picked up and sent to El Salvador prison along with the gang bangers?
SRG2 — Take a look at the Getty Images from CECOT, and I think you will likely conclude another status complication to account for: a Hispanic war against the indigenous. Trump policy which defacto mixes the U.S. up in that has yet another strike against it.
I'm old enough to remember the (female) Lebanese doctor pretended to have no idea why she was being deported, which many people were outraged about last week. Until it became known that she had recently attended the funeral of a Hezbollah leader and had admitted to supporting him.
So no, I'm not going to take the word just yet of others being deported (and their supporters), that these are cases of mistaken identity etc.
You should take the word of the people who wanted hearings to prove they weren't, rather than the word of the people who circumvented a court order to sneak them out of the country so that they wouldn't have to present evidence. Especially since in the latter's filings, they admitted they didn't know much about many of the abductees.
Neither will I take the word of someone at risk of being deported. But nor am I going to take the word of the Executive when clearly they don't care. And if you do, you're no less credulous than someone who will take the unchecked word of a potential deportee.
Soooo…you don’t understand that immigration decisions are entirely centered around executive (Article II) hearings? Not an Article III judge in sight. Just what the executive branch decides.
Yes, that’s right, it is one portion of the executive branch proving to another that the deportation criteria has been met. With plenty of guard rails so that not much is appealable to an Article III court.
Last time I checked, there is no “executive don’t care” exception in immigration law. I realize people want to create an “I care” exception, now that these and other provisions appear to be being utilized with gusto.
So here is a totally radical idea... how about instead of taking the detainee's word alone...or the govt's word alone... we have a process where both sides submit competing claims and some kind of...referee... weighs the competing evidence and decides who is right and who is wrong??
Since the referee will be listening to each side's submissions and testimony...we can call it a "hearing." RADICAL. I know. But it might just help prevent innocent people from being disappeared, tortured and murdered.
But with the detainee picking the referee, right ?
Fortunately we already have people who are paid to hold hearings and a process that prevents these detainiees picking the referees.
I think the reason that the cultists like Bob and XY don't want hearings is not merely deference to Dear Leader and his apparatchiks - they actively want some groups of immigrants here legally to be deported even if it's morally and legally wrong - "wrong is so 2023" - or to be so afraid of deportation they either move somewhere else safer, or just keep their heads down and try to stay out of sight so that Bob and XY and others don't have to see them.
Soooo...you don't know anything about immigration law?
https://redstate.com/wardclark/2025/03/25/horror-two-illegal-aliens-accused-of-molesting-a-minor-on-a-cruise-ship-n2187084
Someone who wouldnt reflexively give these animals a hearing in a federal court. Illegal alien with HIV should be executed.
Great story. They got arrested, if convicted they will go to prison and then be deported if they ever get out.
The real crime here is how did Ron Desantis let two gay undocumented brown men live in Miami? I mean, what are the odds of that??
/s
We need to follow the West Wing model and nominate a pair that will have a lot of debates.
David Nieporent and Brett Bellmore. That's the ticket.
I know Trump says he’s against DEI but he should think about giving a Blackman a chance!
Every nomination is DEI: white, incompetent, mendacious
Just nominate some drunk frat-boy loser that hates America like the clowns in today's headlines. Jesus