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How Trump's Alien Enemies Act Deportations Violate the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment
The people deported are incarcerated in Salvadoran prisons without any due process whatsoever.

Most public debate over the Trump Administration's efforts to use the Alien Enemies Act as a tool for deportation have focused on whether the invocation of the AEA is legal, and the administration's apparent defiance of a court order blocking the deportation of some 137 Venezuelans under the Act. These are important issues. But not enough attention has focused on what is being done to the Venezuelans after their deportation: they are to be incarcerated for one year or more in El Salvador's awful prison system.
This is much worse than "normal" deportation of undocumented immigrants, which is bad enough. With conventional deportation, the government removes the migrants from the US, but then sets them free in their country of origin (or at least as free as they can be under the oppressive regimes that govern places like Venezuela). In this case, by contrast, the deportees are sent to prison in terrible conditions. And that's without ever being charged or convicted of any crime related to the ostensible reason for the deportation (supposed membership in the Tren de Aragua drug gang). The migrants in question did not get any opportunity at all to contest claims that they are members of TdA. All we have is the administration's unsupported word. The government actually admits that "many" of the deportees do not have any criminal convictions of any kind. Moreover, publicly evidence suggests many of them are probably not actually gang members, and some even entered the US legally.
This policy is obviously unjust. Imprisoning people without any due process whatsoever is a cruel and evil practice usually used only by authoritarian states. And if the Trump administration gets away with it here, there is an obvious danger it will expand the practice. While the current AEA proclamation is limited to Venezuelan members of Tren de Aragua, if courts uphold it, it could potentially be expanded to other Venezuelans and migrants from other countries. And, of course, as already noted, the administration isn't giving any due process rights to those targeted for AEA deportation, which enables it to deport people simply by claiming they are gang members, even if they really aren't.
Legally, imprisonment without due process violates the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment, which states that people may not be deprived of "life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." Imprisonment is an obvious deprivation of liberty, and here we have a complete absence of due process of any kind.
Like most other constitutional rights, the Due Process Clause protects all persons, not just citizens. If the US government arbitrarily imprisoned non-citizens within its territory, there is no doubt that would be unconstitutional. Some argue it does not apply to non-citizens outside the US. But legal scholar Nathan Chapman showed, in an important 2017 article, that in the Founding Era, the Due Process Clause was understood to apply even to foreign-citizen pirates captured in international waters. If so, it also obviously applies to deported immigrants.
Another possible rationale for not applying the Due Process Clause in this situation is that the imprisonment is being done by the Salvadoran government, rather than the US. But the Salvadorans are obviously doing it at the behest of the Trump Administration, which is paying them a $6 million fee for this "service." It would be perverse to allow the federal government to circumvent the Due Process Clause by paying a foreign state to do its dirty work. Licensing such subterfuge would create dangerous perverse incentives: the feds could potentially detain anyone they want without due process, simply by outsourcing the "job" to a foreign government willing to do it for the money, or to curry favor with the US administration.
It is true that current legal precedent and practice (wrongly) allows weaker due process protections for immigration detention than for most other deprivations of severe liberty. But here, the Administration is going beyond merely detaining illegal migrants until they can be deported. It is facilitating their imprisonment even after deportation - and without any due process whatsoever. Moreover, in ordinary deportation proceedings, the migrant in question generally is at least entitled to a hearing. Trump's AEA deportees didn't even get that.
There may be various procedural and practical obstacles to courts ordering the administration and El Salvador to release the imprisoned Venezuelans and allow them to return to the US. I won't try to go over them here. But these technical legal issues don't change the reality that this imprisonment without due process is both unjust and unconstitutional.
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Ilya Somin, continuing to be an actual voice of reason at "Reason".
So unlike Josh Blackman!
Try voice of ideological insanity.
And we're now waiting for Ed's brilliant, insightful, and clever rebuttal to Professor Somin's comment. Use as much space as you need, Ed, and don't forget to point to the Constitutional provisions and case law that support your rebuttal.
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That actually...could explain a lot.
How unsurprising that "Dr. Ed 2, the Talking Horse's Behind," [and it should always be remembered that neither the front, nor rear ends of Ed, that is either the talking or non-talking ends, are lawyers] is totally disregardful of that silly thing known colloquially as "(D)ue Process, if not frankly contemptuous of it. DE2,-the-THB. He couldn't wait for the authoritarianism the DJT Redux promised.
So everybody in the world has the rights of a US citizen and it's the responsibility of the US to ensure this? I guess they must be handing out George Mason Professorships in Cracker Jack boxes based on the hysterical illiteracy I'm seeing from Somin and others here.
Persons in areas of U.S. control have certain basic rights.
Everyone don't have all the rights of "citizens," including voting. Citizens have additional rights.
The U.S. is not responsible to protect the rights of the people worldwide.* It is responsible for the rights of those in areas of their control. So, e.g., they can't torture people in GITMO or who they capture in international waters.
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* The countries of the world have determined some duty to work toward helping the people worldwide, including fighting world hunger and addressing world conflicts.
Persons in areas of U.S. control have certain basic rights.
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Which doesn't/shouldn't include the right to be here. Call me a crazy authoritarian but if some foreigner comes in and starts committing additional crimes. Once it's known theyre illegal it should be out the door with them with out a 100 year long court process with appeals extensions and blue ribbon panels and omsbudmen tribunals and appellate appellate courts for each and every instance these guys step over. Unless gumming up the system is the goal, which seems to be the Dems actual desire.
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The U.S. is not responsible to protect the rights of the people worldwide.* It is responsible for the rights of those in areas of their control.
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El Salvador is run by the US?
Probably a good thing it's not. It would probably be the warzone it was pre bukale if clowns like Somin were still in charge.
The follow-up comment now debates the specifics, not some strawman that "everybody in the world has the rights of a US citizen" etc., so that's appreciated.
El Salvador is run by the US?
The argument concerns the U.S. having a responsibility about those here, including due process before sending them out of the country, including to foreign prisons.
Man this is dumb. How do you find out who is a US citizen or has a right to be here? Due process. How do you find out who in the U.S. deserves to go to Salvadoran prison? Due process.
Hey, do you think these people, especially the "IANALs," give a rat's patootie about such legal "niceties" as due process? Trust me, you are wasting your breath trying to explain to them that it is a "rule of law" thing without which we would be an authoritarian state.
Hey, an authoritarian state is exactly what they want!
Hey, do you think these people, especially the "IANALs," give a rat's patootie about such legal "niceties" as due process? You are wasting your breath trying to explain to them that it is a "rule of thing
Accuse me of laziness if you will, but I have little patience with Josh Blackman and his ideologic point of view (not legal point of view, because with him in the end its always Trumpism above all else.) Too little to expend the little bit of effort needed to find where JB has expressed himself on this AEA horror show.) So I'd appreciate if someone kindly summarized in fewer than 50 words where JB has come out on this. Was it in accord with Justices Thomas and Alito can be expected to come out on it whenever the matter comes before the Supremes, however close or far off that can me expected. (How long before it reaches the Supremes?
Legal theory of some of the left leaning scholars is wild.
These non legal immigrants do not have status to be in the United States. They have no right to roam or be free in the United States.
Venezuela has refused hosting or return of these non legal immigrants. So they have been hosted in a 3rd country willing to host them.
To follow Somins logical conclusion, US immigration policy must be subordinate to the choices of Venezuela. If Venezuela denies return, the US, for some reason, must shrug its shoulder and say aww shucks?
The idiocy of your legal analysis and it's outcome is stunning Somin.
As soon as Venezuela allows repatriation, the non legal immigrants can return. If they remained in the United States they would remain in detention until Venezuela allows repatriation. El Salvador is cheaper, so the detention was chosen there.
It is amazing someone claiming constitutional law would say US policy is subordinate to another country in outcome. What the fuck lol.
Calling Ilya Somin "left leaning" already loses you any credibility. But then you asscribe to him arguments he is not making (that our immigration policy must be subordinate to Venezuela's policy preferences) and attacking that. You either aren't reading what he's written, aren't understanding it, or are deliberately misrepresenting it.
I'm not sure there's much point in engaging with you on this topic given those options. But it's possible to provide people with the due process required by the US Constitution prior to locking them up in a foreign prison without making subjugating our own laws to the whims of a foreign government. I feel like anyone willing to discuss the matter in good faith would grasp that. The question is whether or not you can.
We could just return them to Venezuela -- from 30,000 feet...
No, we can't, you sociopath.
Somin is worse than left-leaning. He is an anti-American Marxist.
Uh, Professor Somin is an émigré from the Soviet Union and a harsh critic of Marxism.
You should know better than to confuse Roger with facts.
As humans in this country, they were entitled to due process. You obviously disagree. But the law has been clearly on the side of due process.
Trump et al try to circumvent that with a bad interpretation of the statutes and insist no one has a right to disagree. That authoritarian stomp is what many of us fear because that is what the communists and fascists do.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Dumbest post of the day.
Dr Ed regularly competes with himself for this award.
Not deporting innocent people to be held in a brutal prison in a foreign country isn't suicide.
Though putting them in those prisons could be murder.
What part of illegally in the county=not innocent don't people get?
We don't understand the concept that people being in the US illegal means we can arrest, torture, murder, and deport them at will. We are just stupid like that.
Yeah, that sounds awful.
Guess we'll just settle for arresting and deporting, then.
How do you know that they're all illegally in this country? Because some apparatchik told you?
Now wait a minute, it's not just any old appartchik that told them, it's a Trump-following appartchik, which is to say a more heinous than most appartchiks.
They're being deported because their illegals who have no right to be here in the first place. The additional crimes they committed are just an extra reason to get them out. Once they are out to where they belong it's not our business to dictate that other countries run according to Somins standards.
there is no right to 'due process' for the extra crimes you committed from a nation that is not prosecuting you for them
What crimes? They weren't convicted of anything.
Uh crimes exist independent of formal convictions. And like I stated even if theyre as pure as undriven snow they should not be here anyway.
A. You have committed crimes.
B. You will be taken to a Salvadorean prison.
C. If you object, see rule A.
How do you know that they're all illegally in this country? Because some apparatchik told you?
Well if you're going to start claiming the trump admin outside of maybe isolated mistakes is intentionally deporting innocent people who have a right to be here as a matter of policy that would change things. I suppose you have proof of this outside of the voices in your head?
While you're at it please link to me the 1000+ individual files of prosecuted J6ers each and every one you individually verified (with notes proving you analyzed each one) to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and fully deserving of their particular punishment. Or did you trust an apparatchik for this?
As the Khalil case shows, Trump claims the power to deport any alien, even green-card holders, for as little as their speech.
The J6ers were afforded due process.
This is not right. The provision Trump is apparently relying on does not even require speech. It permits the president to deport any non-citizen solely based on a claim by the Secretary of State that the person's presence here — no matter how legal or permanent — hurts U.S. foreign policy interests. So if Vladimir Putin tells Trump, "You have a Russian dissident in your country. We're mad that you're letting him stay," then Trump can just deport him.¹ Doesn't matter what this dissident supposedly said or did while here. The only protection from this is becoming a citizen. Assuming Trump doesn't just stop processing citizenship applications. Except of course applications from white South Africans.
¹In theory the Convention Against Torture would forbid us from sending this person back to Russia, assuming Trump were willing to obey, but it would not prevent Trump from expelling him.
It is not up to me to prove it. It is up to the Executive to prove that the deportations were legitimate, because that's how the system is supposed to work, not by relying on the fiat of a dictator.
The J6 convicts actually had hearings and trials. So there is a significant difference. Also most of them were white, whicjh makes a difference to you as well, I suspect.
Hey, do you think these people, especially the "IANALs," give a rat's patootie about such legal "niceties" as due process? You are wasting your breath trying to explain to them that it is a "rule of
law" thing. They spend a great deal of time on it in lsw school. but you wouldn't know about that, would you?
How do you know that they are those things without having it proven through some fair process? It doesn't have to be anything special, just the appropriate amount of process for the situation and the stakes. You know, whatever is due under the law.
How do you know?
Pointless question, since as I pointed out earlier, he/they don't give a crap about such. Indeed, you just cause them to be more self-admiring authoritarians in the image of their cult leader DJT
How do you know?
Do you listen to that song from Enchanted?
I, J_A_H hereby declare that AmosArch is an illegal with no rights and an enemy of the state. He is subject to his choice of summary execution or deportation.
AmosArch, which would you like to choose, summary execution or deportation?
Too easy. Make it summary execution or Salvadorean prison.
Why? Because you can.
Our due process rights have been under attack for as long as I can remember. It's suffering a death of a thousand cuts. When did you last apply for Global Entry or an Airmen Medical Certificate? How are those Red Flag Laws going?
Hey, why not "deport them" Pinochet style, just drop them in the ocean!
We've already established that Trump is willing to pay a lot to get rid of them (military flights and prison costs). So if Venezuela doesn't want them pay a safe country to take them.
The El Salvador prison wasn't chosen because it was cheaper, it was chosen because it was crueler. Instilling terror is the point.
The El Salvador prison was chosen because (a) it was available and (b) El Salvador is actually doing something about MS-13, which had been causing us problems, and we want to both reward this and help them continue to eradicate MS-13.
By adding to their prison population? I don’t think so.
El Salvador is actually doing something about MS-13,
Throwing innocent people into jail surrounded by gang members so they can be recruited?
Innocent, my ass.
Innocent until proven...
(Not that you care.)
Your another of the IANALs here, right? (If you wonder how I can tell, it's your accent and how you style your hair.)
I still don't see where someone who is in the US illegally should have the benefit of our Constitution.
Then you simply don't understand the language used in the constitution and how it is interpreted.
Take the 5th amendment: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Notice who is covered by the amendment. "Person." It doesn't qualify it by 'citizen' or 'lawfully present person' or some other qualifier. You are wanting to read that into the language but Courts do not. The plain meaning of person is just that. If they are a person...they cannot be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law.
So unless you want to claim illegal immigrants are not "persons" then you better come up with a better argument than "this is what my preference would be." Or change the amendment. The drafters could have limited these protections to citizens (and does so in other parts of the constitution) but chose not to. Deal with it. Or amend the language. Pretending it doesn't exist accomplishes nothing.
I wish. As we have already seen, pretending it doesn't exist seems to be working rather well...
Touche...I agree!
The photograph showing potential innocents brutally suppressed, in obvious danger for their liberty and lives, beyond the reach of U.S. jurisdiction, is part of a Trump administration propaganda campaign to terrorize not only immigrants, but also any Americans with temerity to resist. This is stark warning of totalitarian intent.
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Stoking fear has been Trump’s whole calling card. You clearly don’t perceive what he’s doing. I would diagnose you with Trump Dernagement Syndrome. You exhibit all the symptoms.
I'm hoping illegal aliens are in abject terror.
This is sort of a weird take from people getting hysterical over fake threats like TdA.
They can live next door to you.
Yet you were silent regarding the abuse of the Jan 6 folk.
Why do you only support civil rights for non-White people?
They had all the criminal due process rights afforded them.
What’s your best example of a January 6th defendant who was comparably denied due process?
Even you, Ed, can't be so dim-witted as to think that the January 6 people were denied due process.
That is an incredibly ridiculous claim from you. The first part, that is.
They don't have our Constitution down in El Salvador.
D'uh. Even an open borders zealot should know that.
In 1798, Congress passed two deportation laws.
First was the Alien Friends Act, rammed through Congress by a Federalist majority over Republican opposition. "Alien Friends" didn't mean friendly foreigners, it meant foreigners from countries at peace with the U.S. If the President thought such a foreigner was dangerous, he could order the person deported with minimal due process. This law expired of its own force before the Republicans took over, when they would have repealed it. During its short life, the Alien Friends Act was denounced by the Republicans as unconstitutional, including in the famous Virginia and Kentucky resolutions.
Second was the Alien Enemies Act, passed on a bipartisan basis by Republicans and Federalists, with the partisan Federalist clauses taken out of it. This law, still in force, conforms to the law of nations with the (harsh but real) doctrine that if you're a citizen/subject of a country *not* at peace with the U. S., then you're a member of an enemy nation and can be kicked out of the country without regard to personal guilt. Shocking as this may sound today, it was a consensus view at the time, and it had to do with the hostile relations between the U. S. and another *country.* It wasn't about whether the *individual alien* was guilty of anything.
Using the Alien *Enemies* Act to deport alleged criminals - which is what Trump wants to do - is to miss the point of why Congress passed two deportation acts in the same year. The Alien *Friends* Act was the constitutionally-dubious one (now expired) about declaring aliens personally guilty based on minimal (if any) due process, while the Alien *Enemies* Act was about dealing with the population (innocent or not) of a country we're not at peace with.
It is shocking because we have the concept of "due process" that lacked back then.
The Bill of Rights was ratified before "then".
Do Salvadoran Principles have Principle Guards?
So what happens if one of these persons says, "I want to go home to Venezuela?" Is the problem that Venezuela won't take them? Or that El Salvador won't release them?
Venezuela won't take them -- although I guess one could sneak INTO the country. They probably are better off in the prison as they won't starve to death.
The problem is Dear Leader sending any alien for any reason that tickles his fancy to an El Salvadorian prison in the first place. And yes, an allegation of being a gang member without a hearing or evidence is the equivalent of "any reason that tickles his fancy."
Not really. If they are free to leave and go to Venezuela (or anywhere else other than the US), then I don't see the deprivation of liberty.
Firstly, they aren't free to go to Venezuela. Trump sent them to prison in El Salvador.
Secondly, although not as bad, it's still wrong for Dear Leader to kick aliens out of the country for any reason that tickles his fancy. Say no to authoritarianism.
He claims a statutory basis for kicking aliens out of the country.
With a quite broad definition of alien.
And don't check too closely who counts as an alien.
The Aliens Enemy Act is far too limited in scope for what Trump wants to do.
If these persons entered the country and were given documents of some kind and to produce them to the authorities, then yes, the case of Due Process would be of merit.
Otherwise, lacking any references, then no.
“If”. And you trust the government’s unilateral say-so? I don’t.
What if one of the deported people was actually a citizen of the US? What recourse would they have had?
They could ask to be deported to their country of citizenship.
To the US? The problem is that they were deported wrongfully. Without due process, they have no recourse.
But people like Armchair have no empathy for "rhose people" so he doesn't give a shit.
If we're playing the empathy card, how's your empathy for Laken Riley doing these days?
I have plenty of empathy for Laken Riley and lots of other victims of violence; I don't respond by tarring an entire group of people based on the actions of a small number of individuals. And I notice you don't express any empathy for "those people".
"I have plenty of empathy for Laken Riley and lots of other victims of violence"
But apparently not enough empathy to consider saving future victims of violence from a small group of violent people....
You mean the J6 terrorists?
Armchair still unable to pretend to have compassion for "those people" or anyone who doesn't serve his political goals.
Sure I do. But I want to know that I really am saving her from a small group of violent people, not a group of people who some dictatorial racist tells me are violent people. You don't.
And you still have shown no empathy towards any innocents caught up in the sweep.
To the US?
Bingo.
In which fantasy world can a person incarcerated in a Salvadorean prison "ask to be deported to the US"?
The only realistic opportunity for that person to raise that issue would have been before they were illegally removed from the United States--you know, during the due process hearing they were unconstitutionally denied...
Everyone in the US has the same Constitutional rights.
I would contend if you have no paperwork or documentation proving you are legally here (visa, green card, asylum app pending, etc) regardless of your geographic location, you aren't "in" the United States yet.
Is English not your first language?
What does having the "same" constitutional rights mean?
I covered this before but the idea that everyone has some basic core rights is fine. Nonetheless, there are different classes of people and they have different degrees of rights. So "persons" have certain core rights. While "citizens" have more. Likewise, children don't have the same rights as adults, even if both are citizens.
It means the Bill of Rights, 13A and 14A apply to everyone in this country.
The 14A speaks of different kinds of citizens (of a state and the United States) and persons.
Citizens and persons do not have the same rights. Non-citizens do not have the "privileges or immunities of citizenship."
They both have certain basic rights. They cannot be enslaved. Their liberty cannot be deprived without due process. etc.
But, they don't have the "same" rights.
Citizens have more rights. That is the whole point of being a citizen.
No, they do not. All people have the same rights.
So...non-citizens can vote? Like citizens can?
So someone who is 14 can vote?
Can someone who is currently in prison for robbery own and possess a fire arm?
Voting is not a right. The "right" is not be be denied the vote due to age if you are over 18, and that right applies to everyone.
So...non-citizens over the age of 18 can vote?
And remind me, if voting isn't a "right"....what exactly does the 15th amendment say?
Voting is not a right thus denying non-citizens the vote does not deprive them of a right.
Since you need help here....
The 15th Amendment, Section 1 reads as follows.
"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude–"
Now, I really have no idea how you can, with that amendment's plain text in front of you, say "Voting is not a right" with anything resembling a straight face.
Since you need help here...
Unlike most state constitutions, the U.S. Constitution doesn’t contain an explicit right to vote. The 15th amendment provides a set of conditions neither state nor federal governments can apply to stop someone from voting in a particular instance—but that is not an affirmative right applying to all.
So, an an exercise for the student, might there be other methods of selecting public officials, than voting? Might there be methods of denying or abridging a vote, for reasons other than race, color, or previous condition of servitude? Can you imagine circumstances in which a population of eligible voters, as a whole, might not be allowed to vote for some public elected office?
If you suffer from a lack of imagination, start with consideration of possible options the States are constitutionally allowed to chose as their state's method of selecting presidential electors. If I call it something like "The Independent State Legislature Theory," do you feel warmer about it?
There are reasons ISL theory has not fared well in court, but those reasons do not include a Constitutional right to vote equivalent to the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. And, as the last couple months are proving, MAGAnistan has no shortage of inventive lawyers probing the bounds of civil norms and settled law in search of altering the ways America chooses its—previously elected—leaders.
We can debate about the "explicit right to vote."
Bottom line, in a republican form of government, which the Constitution says the United States must guarantee, some significant subset of citizens must have a right to vote. Or it wouldn't be a republican form of government.
The 17A says that "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof."
There is a constitutional right to vote for U.S. Senators. "The people thereof" at least means citizens. Every person doesn't have the right to vote for U.S. senators. Citizens of states do.
Bottom line, in a republican form of government, which the Constitution says the United States must guarantee, some significant subset of citizens must have a right to vote. Or it wouldn't be a republican form of government.
That approaches the truth, but does not reach it. In a republican form of government, voting is more than a right. It is a sovereign power.
That distinction is important. Rights may at times be constrained, or properly circumscribed by governments. Governments have no proper power to constrain this nation's joint popular sovereign. Sovereign power must always be exercised at pleasure, and without constraint, or it ceases to be sovereign. Any rival, including a government, which achieves constraint of an erstwhile sovereign has already gone far toward the destruction and replacement of that sovereignty.
Thus, this nation's joint popular sovereign must be accorded place as the sole and final authority on who its members are, and what voting powers they have.
In practice, that has been complicated by the fact that oversight of the voting process, as distinguished from the voting power, has been delegated by the jointly sovereign People to governments. That may make sense, but only so long as members of governments constrain themselves from trying to use government power to affect the outcomes of elections.
Note also that even members of state and federal judiciaries are members of governments. They owe to the jointly sovereign People the same duties of self-constraint that are owed by all other members of governments.
Our various governments have not faithfully performed their assigned functions. They have failed most conspicuously with regard to self-constraint. Violations have been so flagrant they amount to commencement of contests for sovereignty against the People themselves. What is happening now in the federal government is nothing short of an ongoing attempt at a coup, undertaken with an eye to displace completely America's joint popular sovereign.
It is thus evident that there is political work for the sovereign to do, to repair vulnerabilities inflicted on American constitutionalism by members of American governments. What that work ought to consist of, and how to organize and complete it, has become a topic deserving urgent focus if American constitutionalism is to continue to function.
Sigh...
As others have written, there are several other indications in the US Constitution that there is a right to vote (as opposed to have the government dictated by a small oligarchy)
No fewer than 3 amendments specifically note of "right of citizens of the United States to vote"
Article 1, section 2 says the "The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States"
The 17th amendment says ""The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof,"
And of course "Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,"
With all that (and multiple court decisions), without the Constitution explictly saying "There is a right to vote," a "right to vote"' is more heavily indicated than any other right in the Constitution.
Another arguable right is the right to free speech. But that has far less "support" than the right to vote does in the US Constitution. All that is mentioned is that Congress shall make no law abridging free speech. But Congress could make any number of "regulations" that do the same....no one seriously argues that.
Saying there is "No right to vote" borders on the absurd.
Your condescending "sigh..." as a layperson is some chutzpah.
It would be awesome if that were the law, Armchair.
It's not.
Voting is a statutory right that is maintained by the Equal Protection Clause saying that whatever right you expand to one group cannot exclude other groups.
"Voting is a statutory right"
Glad you agree with me. Enough said.
We need to rename the Voting Rights Act.
If the only harm is Armchair making a fool of himself, it's not a huge burden.
"All citizens of the United States who are otherwise qualified by law to vote at any election by the people in any State, Territory, district, county, city, parish, township, school district, municipality, or other territorial subdivision, shall be entitled and allowed to vote at all such elections [. . .]"
That looks like a right to vote to me. 52 USC 10101 - Voting Rights. Or are you one of those people who think of "rights" in a quasi-religious, fully-insane sense that they come only from God or the Constitution?
Thoughts and prayers
The Alien Enemies Act, which is not applicable to noncitizens who are not enemy aliens, in its original form included certain safeguards, including the right to judicial review.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-1/pdf/STATUTE-1-Pg577.pdf
Since 1798, other legal safeguards developed, including stronger due process protections of the "persons" involved. Then as well as now we also were expected and expected to follow basic rules of international law, including how to treat foreigners in our midst.
Citing the law? You must be some kind of Marxist, Don't you know that what Dear Leader says the law is, is truly the law.
Are these men still under our jurisdiction? Because we tax payers have been forced to pay $6M per month to house them, have we not? That makes them subject to our standards
Where we are now: the cultists have taken the word of the Executive that every person on those planes was either illegal, or, if they were a lawful resident, were a threat to the national interest. And if in fact there are genuinely innocent people amongst them, well, fuck them because they're foreign.
Yet I'm sure you think of yourselves as decent moral people, despite thje obvious lack of principle and empathy verging on the sociopathic.
They are the "Good Americans".
Remember that Reason was created as an open borders propaganda mouthpiece. When Volokh signed on, Reason became the master.
Someone could be entirely against open borders yet still be able to realize that deportation is one thing, while imprisonment in a hellish foreign prison is another thing. The latter is not necessary to accomplish the former, especially without any process or charge.
The Trump administration has essentially disappeared these people. There is no accounting of who each of them is, or what each of them has done.
Lacking any process, the Trump administration could have disappeared anyone in this manner.
Maybe Musk can save us some money on the costs of disappearing people into hellish foreign prisons without charge or process. Now that the US is part of the rouge handful of nations that votes with North Korea, China, Russia and Belarus at the UN, one of those countries would probably imprison the next batch of 200+ deportees for less than six million dollars. North Korea would probably imprison them for less than half that. Musk can list the savings on his website and primary anyone who complains.
"rouge handful of nations"
Legitimately funny typo, when you consider the main colors of the Russian, Chinese, North Korean, and Belarusian flags, and MAGA hats.
I think Prof. Somin is begging the question here.
What process are they due?
This is the part that everyone forgets about due process: people have a vote in the process they get! If a guy gets pulled over by the cops and points a gun at them, he isn't going to get his "day in court" -- but nobody can say he won't get due process.
He is not begging the question. He merely stated that "Trump said so" is not due process. He need not specify what due process is required to support that claim.
Under AEA, section 21, POTUS Trump must make a proclamation to instantiate the law. He is following the legal process. In a way, 'Trump said so' actually is a part of the due process.
Of course "Trump said so" is necessary (under the statute). But Somin argues it is not sufficient (under the Constitution).
Prof. Somin absolutely is begging the question.
The title of this blog post is "How Trump's Alien Enemies Act Deportations Violate the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment."
The due process clause is often used rhetorically as a talisman even by lawyers and law professors would should know better- due process means different things in different contexts. You aren't entitled to a jury trial in some contexts while you are in others.
So what does the Constitution demand here? What process are they actually due?
A criminal trial? Civil trial? An immigration magistrate like in others? A military tribunal since they are considered enemies via Presidential proclamation?
Saying 'current actions don't comport with due process' doesn't require specifying exactly what level of process you think is due.
The burden is actually the opposite - if you want to go after the OP, you need to argue that the current process of Trump saying 'trust me' is all that's due.
Are you arguing that?
Again, Somin need not say what due process is required other than something beyond "Trump said so." On the other hand, perhaps you think "Trump said so" is sufficient in which case Somin is begging the question. Is that your position?
It's the person who claims who bears the burden of proving their assertion.
Prof. Somin claims- but doesn't back up- his statement that the prisoners did not get due process. I'm left scratching my head wondering what process they were actually supposed to get.
Is it a statute-defined process? Does the 5th Amendment command something beyond what Congress wrote?
Ilya, nobody thinks crying over gang bangers makes you seem principled. It just makes you seem twisted and pathetic.
Nah, what's really pathetic is you believing anything this administration says without asking for details or proof. Every new document dump by DOGE is full of errors, miscounts, and lies - but you think this White House can be trusted. Trump just did a Fox interview where Laura Ingraham repeatedly tried to fact-check his made-up numbers on Canada - but you think this White House can be trusted. Every other statement Musk makes is a complete fraud - but you think this White House can be trusted. Please recall when Vance claimed Haitians in Ohio were eating cats and dogs. Do you think these clowns are less likely to lie about Venezuelans?
The deportation was a stunt. When Trump looks to scam the chumps and fools (ie, you) do you think he cares whether his facts are right, his claims correct, and the innocent unhurt? No way. Trump wouldn't give the slightest damn if every man on that plane was innocent. By multiple accounts the only proof some were of them were "gang bangers" was tattoos common to gang members and non-gang members alike. That's what put people in a hellish foreign prison without the slightest due process whatsoever.
Bonus Point : All throughout these comments, I see these people called "illegal aliens". But we know some were arrested and "disappeared" when they reported to the authorities per their legal requirement under the legal asylum process. Has Trump claimed otherwise - and you Cult dupes dumb enough to swallow his lies whole? Or are the Cultists here improvising to cover for Dear Leader? Either way it's got to be humiliating. For You.
Enemy aliens do not have constitutional rights, and indeed at common law upon declaration of war every enemy alien became an outlaw who could be robbed or worse by any citizen. The Alien Enemy Act in this respect, in providing for orderly internment and deportation, represented an improvement over the common law and what the constitution itself requires.
As Ludecke v. Watkins held, alleged enemy aliens have a limited right to challenge “the construction and validity of the statute and the existence of the ‘declared’ war.” Although the statute permits invocation in the event of an invasion without a declared war, I completely agree that none of the bases for invoking the statute have actually occurred here, the statute is inapplicable to this situation, the President has no right to invoke it here, and the courts are empowered to enjoin his attempt to do so.
This is, however, a matter of statutory construction, not constitutional rights.
There are many rights in the amendments to the US constitution that are afforded to all persons (e.g., no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without the due process of law), and I cannot see how those would not be afforded to aliens. It may be that declaring war on another country is all the due process the citizens of that country get. But allowing cruel and unusual punishments or compelling testimony seems to endorse any degree of torture, and I'll go as far as to say there is a constitutional right not to be tortured, even for enemy aliens.
Yes.
The Constitution protects the rights of "persons" in certain respects -- as Lincoln said at Cooper Union, that would imply even slaves -- and there is no exception explicitly for "enemy aliens."
The Alien Enemies Act itself suggests some concern for the due process of even noncitizen enemies. And, due process has expanded since 1798. We don't have "outlaws" these days.
The Constitution also limits governmental power in certain ways that will benefit enemy aliens. For instance, Congress cannot pass a law respecting the establishment of religion. They cannot only expel enemy aliens who profess a belief in the Trinity.
The right not to be tortured is a good example. Enemy aliens also cannot be enslaved in a way that violates the 13A, which does not have an "except for enemy aliens" exception.
That approaches the truth, but does not reach it. In a republican form of government, voting is more than a right. It is a sovereign power.
My comment was not meant to say otherwise. It was in answer to a limited point. I won't try to answer the long reply here otherwise.
The reach of the constitutional right to vote is a wider debate. I cited a limited right to vote clearly provided by the Constitution.
I think there is a reasonable case that the Constitution protects a wider right to vote. I am not alone as seen here in an early argument for a particularly wider reach:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5036471
The assumption various amendments assume an existing right to vote has some wider validity. It's a reasonable argument that can be defended with an appeal to some expert scholarship.
Harper v. Virginia Bd. of Elections speaks of "the right to vote in federal elections" and that it might be "argued that the right to vote in state elections is implicit" without relying on that. The Supreme Court has spoken of voting as a "fundamental right" necessary to secure all rights. Seems to suggest some right to vote but again that isn't explicitly said.
Nonetheless, there is indeed no clear explicit constitutional right to vote & the amendments provide specific equal protection securities, and so on.
Richard Hasen's book supporting a voting rights amendment on that front is a good one. I recommend the book.
Pure Bullshit....look at the other conservative periodicals, almost all are contradicting you.
On deportations: When asked if they support Trump’s plan to deport undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes, a wide majority of U.S. voters are in favor. Overall, 54% say they strongly support the plan, and 24% somewhat support it — marking 79% in favor (rounded to the nearest whole number). Across the board, nearly all demographic groups are amenable: self-described independents (78%), Hispanics (76%), liberals (74%) Kamala Harris voters (72%) and Democrats (69%) all say they support the plan.
How about when asked if they support Trump's plan to randomly deport people who are here entirely legally?
Did Trump ship an asylum seeker who was here entirely legally and with no ties to the mostly imaginary Tren de Aragua boogeyman to a random prison in El Salvador? Yes, yes he did.
https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1902700514556424488
As always: the cruelty is the point.
I wonder if we'll see Armchair show up to express any empathy for this unfortunate victim of the Trump administration.
But wait, there's more!
Immigration agents arrested a U.S. citizen and created warrants after an arrest, lawyers say in court
Assuming the attorneys' claims are true, what should be done to the ICE agents and their supervisors?
Another article by Mr. Somin that makes me overjoyed that he does not posses any government authority.