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Chief Justice John Roberts Rightly Condemns Trump's Call to Impeach Judges who Rule Against Him
There is no justification for such impeachment efforts.

Earlier today, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts issue a statement condemning President Trump's calls for impeachment of judges who rule against him:
For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.
I have many differences with Roberts regarding various rulings he has made. But I agree completely on this issue.
I also agree with prominent conservative legal commentator Ed Whelan, of the Ethics and Public Policy Center:
1. I'd be open to impeaching judges for persistent bad-faith or wild rulings. Nothing remotely like that here. Indeed, from what I have seen, Judge Boasberg's critics have yet to make a clear and compelling case that his order was wrong.
2. Impeachment threats are at best performative nonsense. Even worse, they may provoke threats of violence against judges and family members.
Ed Whelan is far more conservative than me. We differ on many legal and policy issues, but agree here because it's a basic rule of our legal system that cuts across party and ideological lines (or should be).
Like Ed, I think Judge Boasberg's rulings in the Alien Enemies Act case are largely right. Regardless, neither they nor other recent rulings against Trump's policies come even remotely close to the kinds of abuses of power that might justify impeachment.
I would add that the passages in Chief Justice Roberts' year-end report about the danger of defiance of judicial orders now seem especially prescient and relevant, as the administration seems to be moving in that direction. I warned about that threat at the time the report came out.
Co-blogger Josh Blackman is critical of Roberts' statement for reasons that strike me as baseless "whataboutism." Yes, some Democrats have previously called for judicial impeachments without good reason. But the threat posed by such demands is obviously greater when it comes from the president of the United States, than from political activists or congressional backbenchers.
Josh's comparison to the two impeachments of Trump is even more off-base. Those impeachments were undertaken for compelling reasons. The first one arose because Trump usurped Congress's spending power, and also likely committed a crime in the process. The second was even more obviously defensible: Trump undertook a massive assault on our constitutional order by trying to use force and fraud to stay in power after losing a presidential election. And, yes, in that case, too, he committed crimes in the process, though impeachment does not in fact require a violation of criminal law.
There is no valid comparison between either of these impeachments and efforts to impeach judges merely for ruling against the administration in power. None.
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I did not vote for "judge" James Boasberg.
People voted for the person who nominated him & those who confirmed him. Federal judges are indirectly chosen by the people.
Federal DISTRICT judges are chosen by the Senators of the District and thus the people OF THE DISTRICT -- not the whole nation.
That's the problem with national injunctions.
No; they are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
You did not vote for the constitution, either. Yet, here we are.
First Erection I voted in was 1980, I think it was 1984 when I asked someone why there weren't any US Surpreme Court Judges on the Ballot, (In my Defense, we got to vote for Alabama State Surpreme Judges) and learned that we didn't get to vote for the guys/girls who's decisions determine our right to vote, own guns, kill your unborn baby,
Frank
Them's the rules. Blame the founding fathers and the people who ratified the constitution.
And Roberts is only encouraging the judicial misbehavior, so expect more of it. I guess the judiciary really wants a constitutional crisis.
It is important that judges not only be unelected but to ALSO be unaccountable.
No it isn't "important" that judges be unaccountable. That would be unconstitutional. The constitution makes them accountable by entitling them to hold their offices only during good behavior.
I did not vote for "president" Donald Trump.
No one did, except the members of the Electoral College.
"judge" Roberts, PLEASE read this:
Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 (Powers of the House):
"The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."
POTUS does NOT conduct impeachment of judges.
I'm sure the wave of anger over Trump's usurpation of Congress's power will come any moment now.
"Trump undertook a massive assault on our constitutional order"
Jeffrey Toobin, is that actually you sitting in front of your computer, junk in hand? Are you breathing hard?
Is there a mechanism for impeaching Josh Blackman?
For what? Hurting your feelings? Last I looked, that's not unconstitutional.
Wow, "feelings."
The charge is that he went from this blog's superfan to its worst contributor. Like I really don't understand how he aligns with the blog's brand of providing smart legal commentary from a libertarian-conservative perspective.
If Blackman were smarter and less of a troll, I'd say he'd be either on the bench or in the administration soon. Problem solved. But somehow I think he's going to screw that up and we'll be stuck with him forever.
Have you read Ilya? Talk about a dull and pointless series of diatribes saying the same thing over and over again.
In Europe it is. But only if your skin isn't White.
Maga techbro Marc Andreessen says all of secondary education has to be jettisoned and rebuilt from scratch. That effort could have the effect of mass professorial impeachment.
Yes. Maga sounds more and more Maoist and Troskyite every day. We need to burn everything down and build anew in a glorious cultural revolution!!! All institutions are infected by the bourgeois!!!
Yup, institutions are fixable. Sure, nobody has done so and shows no signs of that ever changing.
We are not going to get anything worse if we scuttle public education and allow vouchers to permit parents to make the decision.
How does this work in rural areas? There may be a single charter/voucher school within 100miles. Do we just expect more and more to spring up to serve the scattered/tiny population? Hour and half commutes each way every school day??
1: Boarding School
2: On line school
3: Hybrid school
4: School in city where parent works and rides with parent
Nice of Ilya to put in a nutshell the essence of Blackman's recent post on this topic:
baseless "whataboutism"
no valid comparison
If you haven't read Blackman's post, read the five words above, and then you'd be all caught up.
"Whataboutism" is a valid argument when there are obvious double standards by people should know better.
There's an adjective before that word.
BASELESS meaning: 1. not based on facts
Leave it to Somin, who's TDS is terminal, to blow off when his side does the same thing. The left went nuts trying to delegitimize the court over the past 6 years, and Somin and Roberts never said squat.
"Whataboutism" is a valid argument when there are obvious double standards by people should know better.
Yes, it is the usual Trump-hating talking points. Just opinion, with no substance. No attempt to justify Judge Boasberg trying to block the deportation of alien criminal gangs, or the judge certifying them for a class action lawsuit.
How do you know that they were all members of alien criminal drug gangs?
Maybe the TdA tattoos all over the faces and backs?
Did you see those tattoos? Do you know that they are TdA tattoos if you did see them? Does that apply to all of the individuals being deported?
Or, are you just assuming that the accusations against them are true as if the government would never lie about such a thing?
Dude, Ecuador published a hilarious video of these clowns deplaning and pulled up many of their shirts to show off their tattoos. It was awesome watching all these Obama Son's getting justice. Terrorists deserve no sympathy.
>Or, are you just assuming that the accusations against them are true as if the government would never lie about such a thing?
lol wow, now you bootlickers become skeptics of the State. lol wtf
Was that before or after Uruguay sent them off to prison?
SRG2 : "How do you know that they were all members of alien criminal drug gangs?"
More directly, how anyone could possibly believe they are? In office again, Trump has been one one bungled scattershot stunt after another. Tariffs are named and withdrawn without rhythm or reason. Critical government employees are mindlessly fired, then rehired by emergency dictate. The Enola Gay is put a list to deleted from history as being too, well, "gay", then everyone falls over themselves to correct the embarrassment. There has been zero sign of thoughtful methodical work in any of this. The White House wants headlines and due diligence takes time and effort. Brainless performance chaos rules.
So why would anyone believe this same blundering clown show produced more exacting work here? It's far more likely the office of Chief Stunt Coordinator (surely the most important person in this White House) ordered "X" number of bodies collected before the next day's headlines. Who thinks any of his underlings spent five minutes investigating the supposed charges? There's no sign of anyone else in the upper reaches of the Executive Branch showing that level of competence or personal responsibility.
Of course the Cultists in this thread don't care. For them, injustice exists less & less as the skin tones darken. They just want their rollicking entertainment; a planeload of random strangers would equally fit the bill. That's what MAGA is.
He fired some crucial government employees? The government is comically overstaffed. No need to reduce numbers. Silly to think that.
Even if they were not all members of alien criminal drugs gangs, they have no right to stay in the USA, and we do not want them.
Roberts never said squat
Apparently you didn't read Adler's post or click on either of the links to coverage of Roberts' comments in response to Schumer's statements, offered around the time of arguments in June Medical Services v. Russo.
If John Roberts grew a pair and showed leadership re: the various reckless Left-wing Federal Judges that have brought dishonor to the Judiciary, then we wouldn't have lawfare
“John Roberts and SCOTUS have two options here: they can bring these inferior malcontents to heel, or they can get used to the President simply ignoring these inferior courts or Congress eliminating them entirely,” wrote Davis. “Congress created these inferior courts so the Supreme Court wouldn’t have to deal with every federal case by itself. But if these rogue inferior judges are going to routinely issue lawless decisions that the Supreme Court has to deal with anyway, Congress would be well within its rights to just eliminate them.”
- Sean Davis
https://x.com/seanmdav/status/1889025266644873621
Is there a mechanism for higher court judges to correct the errors of lower court judges? Some sort of process whereby the higher court could review their decisions?
Even those unreviewable TROs?
What's that process to review the unreviewable TROs? Can you recall?
The answer is mandamus.
Alito in a dissent called out Roberts inaction with these inferior Courts actions 2 weeks ago.
Surprisingly Ilya ignores this. Roberts has enabled the crisis he claims.
Also ironic that Ilya states repeated bad rulings in his post but apparently did no research on this judge.
Blocked Dakota Access pipeline.
70 prison sentences for disrupting Congress, a charge the USSC over turned.
Zero jail time for Clinesmith for altering evidence in a FISA warrant.
This judge was also appointed to the FISA court by Roberts when the court was declared out of control by the IG.
Ilya somehow missed all this. Judges daughter also makes a lot of money off immigrants from her NGO.
There is absolutely cause to remove this hack activist Boasberg. Judges "shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour..." Time (way past time) to put a little more teeth into this removal power and this gross interference with the president's national security orders and policies merits this hack's removal. The other branches certainly don't have to acquiesce to this judicial insurrection. Roberts could have acted responsible and reigned in these out of control lower judges. He has only himself to blame.
IOW judges who obey the law rather than the president should be removed. (And Riva strolls off whistling the HorstWessel-lied)
"HorstWessel-lied"
OMG, a Nazi comp, that will show him!
You don't see it, do you?
Meanwhile, two pro-Nazi German Jewish groups for you to ponder on.
:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Vanguard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
:I should say - as I have said before - that I do not think that Trump is Hitler or close, but I do think that most of his loyal foloowers would have voted for Hitler in the early 30s, including you, and that if Trump did try to move more rapidly towards unambiguous dictatorship, not one of you would do anything to stop it or even to express disagreement.
"You don't see it, do you?"
Trump is not Hitler and his supporters are not Nazis. No matter how many times you say so.
You are basically Captain Queeq now.
"including you"
Yeah, I got the allusion in those tiny Jewish group references. Only my good upbringing prevents me from responding appropriately.
Oh, so you did read the part where SRG2 pointed out that he wasn't equating Trump with Hitler. You just said, "No matter how many times you say so [Trump is Hitler]," anyway.
Me: look, I'm not saying Trump is Hitler
Bob: oh, so you're saying that Trump is Hitler
SRG2: Look, I'm not saying Trump is Hitler, but Trump voters are Hitler voters. *wink wink*
Rational people: SRG2 thinks Trump is Hitler and his supporters are Nazis.
Wonder why? Certainly not because SRG is a lying sack of shit...
I think we both explained that it is certainly the case that not all Hitler voters were Nazis. Thus, "Rational people" would be wrong.
Trump is not Hitler and his supporters are not Nazis. No matter how many times you say so.
Another example of not reading past the first line of someone's comment, I see.
The Nazis never won a majority of the vote in any election, and had actually gone down slightly in the Nov. 1932 election from the election held in July, as opposition to the Nazis was split between communists and the parties that weren't so ridiculously extreme. It wasn't until the Reichstag fire and the subsequent suspension of some civil liberties that they were able to get a majority coalition together. Even then, the Nazi Party itself only got 44%.
I would suspect a deeper dive in the history than what I know would reveal a large number of Germans that voted for the Nazis didn't really buy into it and were expressing discontent with a lot of problems with where Germany was economically, socially, and politically. That sound familiar?
Trump is not Hitler and his supporters are not Nazis. No matter how many times you say so.
No - but that is the direction you are headed even if you don't go all the way. Incidentally, in 1932 Hitler wasn't HITLER either.
Democrats are defending foreign professional agitators promoting campus violence and anti-semitic rhetoric and trying to interfere with President Trump's efforts to eject these vile pukes from the country. Kinda seems your side is the Nazi pot insulting the kettle.
I do think that most of his loyal foloowers would have voted for Hitler in the early 30s, including you, and that if Trump did try to move more rapidly towards unambiguous dictatorship, not one of you would do anything to stop it or even to express disagreement.
Exactly.
Not a question of any judge obeying the president. The president isn't violating the constitution and interfering with the judicial branch. The problem is the judicial bad behavior. And, since
Roberts apparently has his head up his ass, the solution seems to be impeachment.
Trump is violating our Constitution and much worse.
Trump sending people to a prison in El Salvador based solely on his own Proclamation was “the very definition of tyranny.” It was exactly the kind of usurpation of power that the Framers designed our Constitution to preclude. As James Madison (echoing Montesquieu), fairly famously highlighted in The Federalist No. 47, “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many” is “the very definition of tyranny.”
Obey the law like sentencing J6ers to prison for a crime the USSC said didn't apply?
Good one shrike.
I think that “good behavior” was intended to prevent judges from doing things like taking bribes - oops, free plane rides and RVs.
Riva, how did Judge Boasberg actually violate any law here? It is the duty of judges to interfere here: Article III commanded that federal “judicial Power shall extend to all Cases” that arise “under this Constitution,” federal “Laws” and “Treaties.”
Article VI commanded all judges to be completely independent of everything except the law: “This Constitution” and federal “Laws” that are “made in Pursuance” of our Constitution “and all Treaties” are “the supreme Law of the Land; and [all] Judges in every State” are “bound thereby” and “all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of [all] States” are “bound” to “support” our “Constitution.”
Trump cannot eviscerate the Constitution with mere labels like "foreign policy" or "national security," much less mere "member" in some criminal gang.
Josh Blackman made a comment that was "baseless"? Wow! I did not see that coming!
Seriously, Josh Blackman is a professor of law who has sold his soul to the biggest criminal in American history, Donald Trump. Together with Mitch McConnell and John Roberts, Donald Trump has destroyed the U.S. Constitution. Future historians will speak of the "First American Republic", with dates running from 1788 to 2016. We are now in the Era of Trump, the years of shame. In 20 or 30 years, I hope, we will be in the "Second American Republic." Sadly, I won't be alive to see it. I hope it turns out well.
There are a lot of conservatives dishing out rhetoric similar to Blackman's, primarily for the purpose of defending the party. But in private they are quite conflicted and feel they have no choice. Blackman seems to really believe this stuff.
Blackman seems to really believe this stuff.
Or really to believe that he needs to say stuff like this to get a judicial nomination
"But in private they are quite conflicted"
Mind reading
Meh. More like projection. See the recent charlie foxtrot from Democrats since they became irrelevant in the public square
There are a lot of conservatives dishing out rhetoric similar to Blackman's, primarily for the purpose of defending the party. But in private they are quite conflicted and feel they have no choice.
Why do they have no choice? Of course they have a choice. What will happen if they speak up? They'll lose their seat? Too fucking bad. They won't be homeless and hungry if they do.
What they lack is not a choice but the integrity and guts to make it.
Doug Heffernan — For instance, Marco Rubio is quite conflicted, and feels he has no choice, if he wants to place himself as a presidential candidate post-Trump.
You sound sane and normal.
How many Teslas did you and your family key and firebomb yesterday?
Trump is the "biggest criminal in American history"?
Yeah, you can be taken seriously.
Ed "RINO" Whelan. [For some here, that is a joke.]
He had a role in that old autopen opinion, btw.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/barrett-sister-bomb-threat/index.html
If Roberts doesn't like this response, he should do his job and quickly get the lower judiciary under control.
All he has to do is end nation-wide injunctions and TROs .. like 1/2 the court wants.
But noooooooooooooooo, he wants to let that bad behaviour go unchallenged.
.
Look, I get it.
Roberts is an establishment, blue-blood hack. He will wall paper over anything to make sure the establishment does not lose face.
He is like a cop on Downtown Abbey, ignoring that a Lord raped a chambermaid in order not to embarrass the Lord (especially when the chambermaid is such a slut that she gets herself raped).
Trump is like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack. He is too outside the norms of the upper class to allow him a fair review.
What about the fact that the Supreme Court AND the DC Circuit have each held, in cases directly on point, that the District Courts have no jurisdiction over Presidental decisions under the Act. None. A Judge acting outside his jurisdiction is acting unlawfully and can, and should be impeached.
No judicial tyranny!!!
Oddly enough, the judicial system retains the authority to say whether or not the President is following the law. See Madison v Marbury.
Ghost, I think your "fact" is not even true. But even if it were, it would matter far less than the fact that many issues in this case clearly can be adjudicated and Article III commands that federal “judicial Power shall extend to all Cases” that arise “under this Constitution,” federal “Laws” and “Treaties.” So whatever different judges said about a different case regarding a different conflict in a vastly different time is not necessarily even relevant, much less dispositive, here.
There is no such thing as SCOTUS precedent that is contrary to our Constitution. Our Constitution and federal laws (not the opinions or preferences of SCOTUS justices) are the supreme law of the land.
"Trump is like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack. He is too outside the norms of the upper class to allow him a fair review."
Actually a good comparison. Establishment figures like Roberts and Whalen need Trump but resent it.
And Roberts is Judge Smales, who would you rather golf a round with?? (is that how you say it? "Golf a Round"?? I've only hit balls at Driving Ranges)
I appreciate those who agree with Roberts but still question the value of him making a public statement. The end-of-the-year report was a reasonable place to substantively discuss the issues.
A brief statement like this, choosing to now respond to various unhinged comments Trump makes about the judiciary, is a dubious enterprise. Impeachment choices are political questions.
Agree completely. Even if he's right on the merits, it was totally inappropriate of him to make this statement. It's just another of his "non-political" political moves that's only going to result in more people believing the judiciary is motivated by political considerations and in the tank for one side over the other.
I am divided on this. On the one hand, maybe he should have kept quiet. On the other, he is defending a coequal branch of government against the head of a branch with no authority to do anything related to impeachment.
The president is a political actor. Impeachment is, at its core, inexorably intertwined with political considerations. It's entirely appropriate for the president to call for impeachment of government officials, especially ones he cannot directly fire. The Chief Justice is not, however, a political actor. Therefore, he should not comment on impeachments or the propriety of political actors calling for impeachments. Such comments only help the narrative that he and other judges are partisans cloaked in non-partisan garb. Thus, ironically, he has only strengthened the case for impeaching judges. It's better for him to just stay out of it, especially since there's a zero-percent chance that any judges will actually be removed even if impeached.
Area Man (and others contending that impeachment of judges is a political process), the Constitution says you're wrong on both points. Impeaching federal judges cannot be about any partisan sentiment or even partisan policy or a way to resolve any mere policy dispute. The CJ and all judges also have as much right and reason as anyone (secured by the First Amendment) to speak out about egregious violations (or planned violations) of our Constitution.
Article III powerfully accentuated that federal judges are protected from retaliation for their independence (i.e., complying with and supporting our Constitution). They “shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall” continue to “receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.”
In The Federalist No. 79, Alexander Hamilton emphasized that federal “judges” who “behave properly, will be secured in their places for life.” In The Federalist No. 78, Hamilton further emphasized the following.
“The standard of good behavior for the continuance in office of the judicial magistracy, is certainly one of the most valuable of the modern improvements in the practice of government.” In our “republic” the “standard of good behavior” was chosen to be an “excellent barrier to the encroachments and oppressions of the representative body.” The good-behavior standard was included in our Constitution because the Framers believed it to be “the best expedient [best means] which can be devised in any government, to secure a steady, upright, and impartial administration of the laws.”
The failure to establish “good behavior as the tenure” of “judicial offices” certainly “would have been inexcusably defective.” Hamilton (quoting Montesquieu) emphasized that our very “liberty” depends upon “the power of judging” being “separated from the legislative and executive powers” because “liberty” has “every thing to fear” when the power to adjudicate the legality of is exercises of power is combined with the powers to create or execute the very laws being adjudicated.
James Madison (quoting Montesquieu) in The Federalist No. 47, also emphasized that “[t]here can be no liberty” when “the power of judging” is “not separated from” the “executive powers.” Where the power to judge is “joined to the executive power, the judge” (or, as here, the executive) “might behave with all the violence of an oppressor.” As a result, Madison emphasized that “the preservation of liberty requires that the three great departments of power” must be as “separate and distinct” as our Constitution made them.
He can't institute impeachment but you are missing a fundamental part of Trump's social media unhinged rants. Every time him or Musk get butthurt about a court ruling and whine for impeachment; some MAGA rep from Texas or Georgia gets the hint and files them. I think we are up to 5 filed articles of impeachments for various judges?
Speaker Johnson isn't feeling the heat to act on them. But at some point he will. Either from Trump/Musk directly or the MAGA caucus in his own party. He needs to keep his entire party together to do anything legislatively so he doesn't want to risk pissing them off by ignoring them or pissing off too many moderates by acting on them. So they get filed and just sit.
Listen, he has to still be invited to the DC cocktail parties. So he has to dip his toe in the same TDS the rest of DC has or he won't get invited to the cool parties. It's what happened to William F. Buckley Jr.
A socialite sell-out.
Roberts wife has made millions linking lawyers to schools and judgeships. He knows where his family gets paid.
No disagreement with Jesse, only bad faith.
Joe, in what sense are impeachments of federal judges "political questions"? Please note that's not a rhetorical question.
You're right that Chief Justice Roberts should have tied his more recent terse rebuke to his more fulsome 2024 Year End Report, in which he did address the following:
Certain “illegitimate activity” that does “threaten the independence of judges [i.e., from everything except the law] on which the rule of law depends” is limited to “(1) violence, (2) [unlawful forms of] intimidation, (3) disinformation, and (4) threats to defy lawfully entered judgments.”
“Public officials certainly have a right to criticize the work of the judiciary, but they should be mindful that intemperance in their statements when it comes to judges may prompt dangerous reactions by others.”
“Disinformation, even if disconnected from any direct attempt to intimidate, also threatens judicial independence. This can take several forms. At its most basic level, distortion of the factual or legal basis for a ruling can undermine confidence in the court system.”
Why did the Chief Justice fail to issue a statement when AOC called for judicial impeachment over political issues? Why does he insist on playing a political role, and always in favor of the left?
Ghost, perhaps because AOC's statements and reasons cannot rationally be believed to be analogous to Trump's (in terms of the sweeping assertions of Trump or their potential effects, either on articles of impeachment actually being filed or on even more dangerous Trump followers).
In a dangerously extremist and egregiously anti-constitutional rant, Trump labeled Judge Boasberg a “Radical Left Lunatic of a Judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama,” and Trump at least implied this judge was one of many “Crooked Judges.” Trump promptly followed his dangerously inflammatory labels with a dangerous call to arms against federal judges: “This judge” and “many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!!”
There is no justification for such impeachment efforts.
Where have we heard this argument in the past re: impeachments? My kingdom for a painting of a former US President wearing a blue-stained dress!
Quite the opposite. Impeaching the judges is the only option. These judges keep ruling against Trump's illegal actions. Blatantly ignoring judges orders is not a legal option, however impeachment is. It does not matter if the impeachment is baseless, it will intimidate judges to ignore the law and uphold Trump's actions. All while technically using a pre-existing legal process.
Leaving aside the facts of this case it seems to me that the principle that Roberts asserts is a bad one, and quite at variance with the one that Ed Whelan offers ( which Somin mysteriously offers in support of his support of Roberts.)
There’s nothing remotely inappropriate about impeaching a judge and removing him from office for an egregious ruling. This doesn’t circumvent the ordinary process of appeal, which proceeds on its merry way.
A reversal on appeal does not punish a judge, and from time to time judges, like everybody else, need punishing.
But the bar for actual removal is so high that the punishment of removal is always going to be rare. What Roberts is complaining about is the punishment of hurt feelz caused by mere calls for impeachment or even by actual but unconvicted impeachment.
Roberts intervention presents him as a concerned father trying to stop his babies from being bullied. Which is not a good way to come across as a serious man, and a serious judge. Nor a good way to help his babies seem like they’re grown ups.
Lee, what do you consider "an egregious ruling" that would justify "removing" a judge from office? We need some elaboration to evaluate your contention that "[t]here's nothing remotely inappropriate about impeaching a judge and removing him from office for an egregious ruling."
I think Chief Justice Roberts rebuked Trump properly. But the rebuke was weakened by the effort to avoid seeming "political." Roberts could have been more effective by invoking some of what he said in his 2024 Year End Report:
The “illegitimate activity” that does “threaten the independence of judges" i.e., from everything except the law, consists of “(1) violence, (2) [unlawful forms of] intimidation, (3) disinformation, and (4) threats to defy lawfully entered judgments.”
“Public officials certainly have a right to criticize the work of the judiciary, but they should be mindful that intemperance in their statements when it comes to judges may prompt dangerous reactions by others.”
“Disinformation, even if disconnected from any direct attempt to intimidate, also threatens judicial independence. This can take several forms. At its most basic level, distortion of the factual or legal basis for a ruling can undermine confidence in the court system.”
Put Trump back in private life and put J. D. Vance in charge.
If the public comes to believe that the only alternative to Trump is a resumption of Democratic rule, they may sigh and vote Democratic.
At the same time, many of Trump's good ideas (not his bad ones) poll better than Trump himself. If a suitable person comes forward as a vehicle for these good ideas, then Trump may be dispensed with and sent back to Mar-a-Lago.
Put Vance in. The "J. D." in J. D. Vance will know how to work the system without breaking the law. And he's seen how it's possible to stand up for many good ideas and win votes.
Of course, this may all be moot if we drown in a sea of debt while aborting our future generations. So please don't put me down as optimistic.
It's cute that you think judges willing to issue bullshit decisions would not happen to another Republican.
What exactly are these "good ideas?"
Downsizing the federal government bigly, deporting illegal immigrants, deworming the DoJ, FBI and CIA, encouraging the Europeans to pay for their own defense (and actually meaning it), eliminating racial preference from federal institutions and policy, returning the armed forces to their role in visiting effective armed power against enemies.
These seem like pretty good ideas to me.
Downsizing the federal government blindly is a terrible idea.
Deporting illegal immigrants without reference to their individual situations is inhumane, stupid, and immoral.bullshit
The need to "deworm" those agencies is based solely on Trump's bullshit, which RW propaganda outfits have picked up on.
I'd trust the armed forces as to how best to serve their role way before I'd trust an ignoramus like Trump.
You're just buying MAGA nonsense.
In fact not. Just to deal with your first point, nearly a century of experience with bloated failing conglomerates ( which is what the federal government is) demonstrates that if you do not occasionally cut out some good tissue, you’re not cutting deep enough. You can always say whoopsie and graft it back.
Certainly it’s wise to look where you’re chopping but fearing to chop too much is a guarantee of failure.
I seem to recall that Musk got rid of 80% of the Twitter employees. Still seems to work.
The conservative objection to serious pruning, or uprooting, is the old idea that you shouldn’t knock any old thing down until you know what it was put there for.
But there are large chunks of the federal government to which those objections don’t apply. Take the Department of Education. It’s relatively new - we survived for 200 years without one. Its presence has done squat for educational standards and its original purpose was to get the Feds involved in education, which they have no business being in at all. Burn it down I say. At least the ashes may contribute something to soil quality.
"I'd trust the armed forces as to how best to serve their role way before I'd trust an ignoramus like Trump."
This in a thread where I suggest that someone other than Trump (i. e., Vance) take over and promote Trump's good ideas - like using civilian supremacy over the military to define the military's role as protecting the country, not "going abroad in search of monsters to destroy" and rearranging the world to suit America.
Lee is the one who passionately argued that the DoJ could blackmail people into doing whatever they want via deferred prosecutions.
Whether through tunnel vision to win arguments on the Internet or actually being into a police state so long as it's against 'the elites,' he's well far gone.
What I actually argued that if the DoJ can blackmail an employee of a private business into doing whatever they want with a deferred prosecution agreement there is no reason why they should not do the same with a government employee.
I would like to respectfully remind Chief Justice Roberts that an impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House says it is. The House could vote to impeach Biasberg for abuse of power, if it chose. And it well might, since the Alien Enemy Act passed by Congress does not allow for judicial review, and Biasberg intentionally disregarded that; an abuse of judicial power.
I prefer not to see an impeachment. Maybe Biasberg can come to his senses and adopt some judicial humility. I doubt it, though.
You should stick to showing off your military expertise about Ukraine, because as a lawyer, you are better only than Dr Ed. The AEA absolutely allows for judicial review.
Yes, to see if the alien is 14 years or older. Other than that, the court is a rubber stamp under AEA.
Wrong.
Roberts is sating the House should not impeach because they don't like a decision. That's a bedrock principle and good for Roberts.
“ It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is.” Sound familiar?
Commenter, you destroy your credibility by contending that a judge's "impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House says it is." Congress cannot cut a judge's compensation or remove him from office except for behavior that is not good.
Article III powerfully accentuated that federal judges are protected from retaliation for their independence (i.e., complying with and supporting our Constitution). They “shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall” continue to “receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.”
In The Federalist No. 79, Alexander Hamilton emphasized that federal “judges” who “behave properly, will be secured in their places for life.” In The Federalist No. 78, Hamilton further emphasized the following.
“The standard of good behavior for the continuance in office of the judicial magistracy, is certainly one of the most valuable of the modern improvements in the practice of government.” In our “republic” the “standard of good behavior” was chosen to be an “excellent barrier to the encroachments and oppressions of the representative body.” The good-behavior standard was included in our Constitution because the Framers believed it to be “the best expedient [best means] which can be devised in any government, to secure a steady, upright, and impartial administration of the laws.”
The failure to establish “good behavior as the tenure” of “judicial offices” certainly “would have been inexcusably defective.” Hamilton (quoting Montesquieu) emphasized that our very “liberty” depends upon “the power of judging” being “separated from the legislative and executive powers” because “liberty” has “every thing to fear” when the power to adjudicate the legality of is exercises of power is combined with the powers to create or execute the very laws being adjudicated.
James Madison (quoting Montesquieu) in The Federalist No. 47, also emphasized that “[t]here can be no liberty” when “the power of judging” is “not separated from” the “executive powers.” Where the power to judge is “joined to the executive power, the judge” (or, as here, the executive) “might behave with all the violence of an oppressor.” As a result, Madison emphasized that “the preservation of liberty requires that the three great departments of power” must be as “separate and distinct” as our Constitution made them.
Just saying... Like the last two impeachments of presidents, if the House impeached (it is not clear that they have the votes), there is no way there would be a conviction.
How about the House concentrate on passing a budget, as well as other matters they think are important and might hacer a chance to succeed?
When that is done, by all means, spend as much time on impeachment as they want.
These rulings appear to be coordinated and deliberate attempts to curtail Trump's constitutionally protected role as chief executive.
We didn't see such restraining orders against Biden during much more egregious conduct during COVID ... As then, I encourage those liberals who are salivating at every opportunity to "stop Trump" to consider what will happen in the not too distant future when they have a Democratic president and a Republican Congress.
appear to be coordinated and deliberate!
AtR, "Trump's constitutionally protected role as chief executive" is (as Article II emphasized) to "preserve, protect and defend" our "Constitution," including by "tak[ing] Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." Trump is fond of flaunting his so-called "mandate" from the voters (as he did in his impeachment tweet). But he ignores, violates and vastly exceeds his mandate in our Constitution.
Absolutely "all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the [all] States" are "bound" to "support" our "Constitution." The Constitutionally protected and mandated role of federal judges is to ensure that the president does what the Constitution requires of him: federal "judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution" and "the Laws of the United States."
Blackman is so irresponsible that one wonders why he's part of this venue.
Submitted for your consideration: Trump isn't Hitler, he's Huey Long. Or aspires to be.
That was my very thought yesterday!
Immediately followed by the question whether Huey Long could have controlled the political dynamics he inspired.
Crossed my mind that maybe Huey Long's constituents might have pushed him toward becoming Hitler. At that time, plenty of people's constituents were pushing toward Hitler. Nobody yet had before them the cautionary example of, HITLER!
I think it is a mistake to slight institutional constraints on government, on the hope that less-constrained political figures can master both their ambitions, and their constituencies.
No, Long wasn't Hitler, except in the sense that then, as now, anyone who was anyone got called Hitler-like by *someone.*
I'm afraid you've missed the point.
I do not think I miss the point if I instead make a point you do not share. There is not much chance for exchange of views if we both build that kind of wall around opportunities for dialogue.
Do you actually think there is no sign of totalitarian danger in American politics today? Do you deny, or recognize, that dynamics between political leaders and their constituencies can send events in unexpected directions, and result in outcomes unexpectedly extreme? Does DOGE/Trump look normal to you?
Margrave, how do we know who will become the Hitler we revile until after it is too late? Not even Hitler started out as the monster he became. Hitler became what he became because he was supported by many, so people with the power to stop him allowed him to assume more power.
He NEVER said 'who rule against me" . NEVER.
And many have and there was no reprisal, even verbal.
You have a history of attacking judges but it is okay when you do it. Surely there are corrupt judges. I find no merit in this article.
What Judge Roberts has done (if you haven't been corrupted by law school ) is to pretend the Trump case is important but not worthy of the full Supreme Court so he is going to give his view as if it were a considered legal judgment. Normal people see through that. and didn't Roberts issue the presidential immunity decision !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVEN THE WASHNGTON POST !!!!
Chief Justice Roberts is wrong. We do have Obama judges and Trump judges.
Thought about __ all my life, did you read Trump's tweet:
“This judge” and “many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!!”
Did you think Trump was seeking to incite the impeachment of judges who ruled in his favor? If so, please see his recent speech at the DOJ.
This might be what puts Roberts in the lazy, clueless, unjust category of a Sotomayor
https://www.wnd.com/2025/03/trump-pushes-to-impeach-troublemaker-judge-as-major-conflict-of-interest-is-discovered/
Boasberg is guilty and no one can now deny it
Not for nothing is your source known as World Nut Daily
Thought about __ all my life, what did you mean, "Boasberg is guilty and no one can now deny it"?
Your link was to a mere message from Laura Loomer that showed the judge's daughter (a young woman) who merely "works for a 501c3 called 'Partners For Justice' @PFJ_USA that gives criminal illegal aliens and gang members legal advice," and Loomer claiming that something was "a massive CONFLICT OF INTEREST involving Judge James Boasberg."
I don't get what all the fuss is about.
Previously, Josh would only get trashed in the comments section. Glad to see other VC contributors calling out his B.S.