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A Very Different Constitutional Immunity Amendment
The "forgiveness doctrine" should be the basis for continued immunity while in office.
Today, Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove instructed the Acting U.S. Attorney for SDNY to dismiss the indictment against New York City Mayor Eric Adams without prejudice. This decision was made without regard to the "strength of the evidence or the legal theories on which the case is based." Rather, the ADAG found the prosecution has "improperly interfered with Mayor Adams' campaign in the 2025 mayoral election." Moreover, Bove wrote that "the pending prosecution has unduly restricted Mayor Adams' ability to devote full attention and resources to the illegal immigration and violent crime that escalated under the policies of the prior Administration."
Both of these rationales only make sense so long as Adams is in office. If he loses re-election, then both of these rationales drop out. Importantly, a former mayor is no longer of use of the executive branch. Adams can then be recharged. The memo states that the confirmed U.S. Attorney can review the matter following the November 2025 election. In other words, the Trump-appointed prosecutor can decide whether to re-indict Adams based on the outcome of the election. Presumably, if Adams loses election, he will be indicted. Or he might be pardoned. But if Adams wins re-election, he will not be indicted.
Critics have cited this decision as yet another example of lawlessness by the Trump Administration. I approach the situation differently. In fact, this memorandum crystalizes something I have been toying with for some time.
There was a time when an indicted elected official would immediately resign in shame. The stigma of holding office in the face of a criminal indictment was too great. Today, that stigma is long gone. Politicians now routinely serve while under indictment. George Santos did not resign, but was expelled. Senator Robert Menendez did not resign until he was convicted. Mayor Adams has not resigned, and apparently made the right judgment. Relatedly, Donald Trump ran for President, successfully, while under several indictments.
These politicians have argued, fairly or unfairly, that the indictments are partisan witch hunts. And at least to some degree, these politicians have maintained some popular support. Their supporters agree that politics went into their prosecutions. Indeed, President Biden said as much about the prosecution of his son Hunter. Who is the ultimate arbiter of these sorts of crimes? I would wager it is not the jury. Rather, it is the voters.
This dynamic reflects the Texas "forgiveness doctrine." Under that doctrine, an official cannot be impeached for conduct that was known when the official was elected to his current term. In effect, the voters forgave the official for his transgressions. Trump was convicted by twelve Manhattanites, but was acquitted by 77 million voters.
I would propose a 28th constitutional amendment that would overrule Trump v. United States, at least in part, but would extend immunity far more broadly. In short, federal and state elected officials can be indicted while in office, but cannot be tried for those indicted offenses until after they no longer in that elected office. All applicable statutes of limitation would be tolled while the official remains in office.
There are several options. First an indicted elected official can resign, in which case he can be tried immediately. Second, the indicted elected official can be impeached, removed, expelled, recalled, or whatever process is available under law, and then tried immediately. Third, the indicted elected official can choose to serve out his term, and not run for re-election; when his term concludes, he can be tried. Fourth, the indicted elected official can run for re-election; if the voters re-elect him, then he cannot be tried until he no longer holds that position. In effect, this amendment would eliminate all immunity for indictments, but grant temporary immunity against trials for current office-holders.
I can already hear the howls! Josh, how can you do this?! Indicted officials would have every incentive to stay in office so they do not face a criminal trial. And they could use the powers of their office to stay in power to forestall a criminal trial. Indeed, the politician can violate election laws as a means to secure their re-election, and those offenses could not be subject to a criminal prosecution.
I am aware of all of these costs. But there are benefits. I think Lawfare has wounded our criminal justice system in ways that are difficult to quantify. When a politician is indicted, the automatic assumption is that politics played a role in the process. Under this amendment, the power of Lawfare would be blunted. All a prosecutor could do is lay the facts at the elected official's feet. The elected official can choose to rebut or address the facts however he wishes, and potentially even incriminate himself further. But it would be the voters to decide the allegations are serious enough to deny the candidate another term. This is the real grand jury.
Moreover, the ability of a popular politician to maintain his seat in government may be more important than whatever marginal gains come from a criminal prosecution. I think this dynamic was true for Trump. The allegations in the New York indictment were beyond trivial. Voters simply did not care. A similar argument could be made for the never-ending prosecution against Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who holds his governing coalition together by the tightest margins in a time of crisis.
Maybe this idea is ahead of its time. At least for the next four years, prosecutions of Republican elected officials will likely decline, while prosecutions of Democrats elected officials will likely increase. And four years afterwards, the trend may reverse. This proposal would make it difficult for the incumbent administration to lock up perceived political enemies. The voters can keep them in office. There might be a benefit if elected officials can face the voters before facing the jury. This amendment would create something of a middle-ground. Prosecutors can make charges, and the voters can decide what to do.
Ultimately, if the person leaves office, the criminal trial will await it is still deemed a valid exercise of prosecutorial discretion. Most charges against politicians are really offenses of the moment, that few people will remember years later.
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The “lawfare” charge, insofar as I understand, seems to be applied to the charges against Trump in before this year—i.e. while he was not the president. So even taking those complaints on their own terms, I’m not sure exactly what problem this proposal is purporting to solve.
Blackman thinks that an automatic grant of temporary immunity upon the assumption of political office disincentivizes lawfare. It may do that, but it also creates an incentive for public officials to remain in office in order to avoid prosecution.
Unfortunately, unlike the US President, there are not many elected offices with term limits, which means that the public may have to wait decades before a criminal trial can occur- assuming the official doesn't die while in office.
I guess it’s only viewed as a problem by those who would like to end this sick abuse of the legal process.
I see this somewhat differently from Josh. It's hard to see that interference with a re-election campaign can be a better reason to back off than interference with an election campaign. Thus, on the theory of not interfering with elections, any Tom, Dick or Harry indicted for anything should be able to stop the clock at least until election day, simply by running for some office. Which would be silly.
So I think there would need to be a consideration as to how serious the run for office is, as well as consideration of how likely it is that the attempted prosecution is simply lawfare that is intended to interfere with the run for office. But those are - at least in some cases - rather difficult judgements to fine tune.
The question is then - what presumption should be made, at least as far as the question of whether we're dealing with a real case, or a lawfare case ?
Fifteen years ago I'd have been unequivocally on the "presumption of regularity" team on this question. The last fifteen years or so have shifted me decisively to the "presumption of irregularity" team. I'm willing to presume that everything done by a Democratic led DoJ since Eric Holder arrived on the scene is done in bad faith. And correspondingly I am willing to allow that the lefties are entitled, sauce for gander style, to presume that everything done by a GOP DoJ is done in bad faith.
Hence I'd be arriving at the same result as the DoJ here, but arriving from a different direction.
The proposal is interesting, I'll give it that much, assuming one thinks politicians deserve some kind of delayed justice. Arguably a Fortune 500 CEO is more deserving of protection from lawfare than some small town part-time mayor earning $100 a year.
Given that assumption, I like your addition of running for office, period, not just re-election, in the interests of balance. But leave it to the voters to judge how serious the campaign is. If it's just to postpone the prosecution, he won't get many votes and will only postpone the inevitable.
Trump is merely tossing a punative indictment while leaving open the possibility of one on the merits.
And???
There was a time when an indicted elected official would immediately resign in shame. The stigma of holding office in the face of a criminal indictment was too great.
Yes... Those were the days.
I wonder what happened with that. How did that change?
1. Partisan hack prosecutors began lawfare prosecutions in partisan hack courts
2. The public (eventually) noticed the partisan hackery, thereby dissolving the presumption that an indicted politico had been more egregiously up to no good than any random unindicted politico
3. Indicted politicos realized the public no longer equated indictment with guilt and so declined to gracefully step aside.
Hardly rocket science.
A good summary.
Mr. Martinned2 is probably unaware that in the US, aggressive prosecutors regularly go after politicians or politically-connected persons by stretching criminal statutes beyond what the law actually says and beyond what is permissible under state or federal constitutions.
I believe the record for prosecutors is about 8 straight losses in a row in front of SCOTUS, most of which are unanimous.
Mr. Martinned2 is probably unaware that in the US, aggressive prosecutors regularly go after politicians or politically-connected persons by stretching criminal statutes beyond what the law actually says and beyond what is permissible under state or federal constitutions.
A case from more than ten years ago.
https://ethicsalarms.com/2014/08/18/monday-morning-lessons-in-news-media-bias-incompetence-and-manipulation-of-public-opinion/
That was one of the more blatant cases. Senator Ted Stevens' case also comes to mind.
"I am aware of all of these costs. But there are benefits. I think Lawfare has wounded our criminal justice system in ways that are difficult to quantify. When a politician is indicted, the automatic assumption is that politics played a role in the process."
Partisan hacks assume such things, and they assume everyone is a partisan hack.
What was the justification for indicting Rick Perry?
https://ethicsalarms.com/2014/08/18/monday-morning-lessons-in-news-media-bias-incompetence-and-manipulation-of-public-opinion/
You might look back a ways at the Ted Stevens prosecution, showing that this isn't a recent problem.
Sure, he got cleared in the end, but they succeeded in losing him the election, which appears to have been the goal.
THEY
How churlish of him to assume their genders.
"They" is the usual plural when you're referring to more than one person.
Didn't follow the link, now, did you? It was pretty egregious. "They" had the evidence that he was innocent the whole time "they" were prosecuting him, and hid it from the defense: "They" knew he was innocent the whole time!
Indeed, one of the prosecutors committed suicide when what he'd done became public.
It was mot suicide; it was seppuku.
Why would I take a single outlier and assume it's actually the standard?
That level of stupidity is entirely your purview.
Because once is too many.
You could quote the ever ridiculous Sotomayor
"One of the dumbest things ever said by a SCOTUS Justice:
Stotomayor says "I don't understand why the states would have power but the federal government wouldn't." #SCOTUS
10th amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
That statement is shocking"
I suppose it is, if you're not terribly acquainted with the left's view of constitutional law.
Sorry Josh,
Despite the lawfare, I view this as a bad amendment. And it may very well backfire.
Currently, the prosecutors need to prove their case in court (after an indictment) with a fair and balanced trial, where both sides can defend themselves. Then an elected official is convicted (or not), and can be impeached or removed.
Your proposal would reverse that. Prosecutors would get an indictment (which of course is much easier than a conviction). Then they'd say "well...it's up to you Congress/State Legislator to remove them before we can try them...hint...hint..."
Then you would see a steady "leak" of information on why they should be removed. The defense couldn't necessarily see any of the evidence to defend themselves. The media would elevate (or not) certain claims. And the legislators would be potentially like "well...we have to impeach them to see the trial" given a court of public opinion (not necessarily a vote of course).
Which would achieve the lawfare result...without needing a trial.
The opposite is also true. A popular politician with good political backing may very well get away with murder....with prosecutors unwilling to even make the indictment, secure in the political knowledge there won't be any trial.
I think such a system is bound to backfire.
"Critics have cited this decision as yet another example of lawlessness by the Trump Administration. I approach the situation differently."
No surprise there then. Josh's position has been pretty consistently that laws should not apply to those that (elected or otherwise) have power.
That is a scurrilous lie. His position has been pretty consistently that laws should not apply to Republicans that (elected or otherwise) have power.
For federal offenses, you hardly need such an amendment, in as much as the President is the head of the DOJ, and can simply order prosecutors to drop any cases against him, and fire any who refuse.
All you'd really need is to do something about the pardon power, and maybe prohibit dismissing federal charges against a President with prejudice.
Here the problem is that if you actually overturned Trump v United States, you open the door to endless prosecutions based on nothing but policy disagreements. For all the pretense that case granted Presidents total immunity, it actually granted them no immunity at all in regards to the sort of crimes anybody might commit, it was restricted to matters which could be considered policy disagreements: Exercises of actual Presidential powers.
I take the important focus, though, being state level prosecutions. This is where you really need a constitutional amendment, after all. And the state level has been the primary focus of lawfare over the last few years. As you'd expect, given the diversity of state prosecutors politically, and the fact that some states are VERY one-sided in their politics.
There IS a strong federalism argument for at least putting on hold any state level prosecutions of Presidents until they leave office.
The Presidency is a partisan job; the point of the amendment is to remove the partisan aspect.
For all the pretense that case granted Presidents total immunity, it actually granted them no immunity at all in regards to the sort of crimes anybody might commit, it was restricted to matters which could be considered policy disagreements: Exercises of actual Presidential powers.
You mean like a state prosecutor arguing that President Obama is guilty of the murder of Brian Terry merely by being President when Operation Fast & Furious happened?
Well, a bit more than simply being President, but, yes.
Look up the Park doctrine, where CEO's could be held criminally guilty for crimea committed by their employees, even if the CEO lacked personal knowledge of the criminal act.
Funny how “45/47” predicted Adams would be indicted after he said something nice about Trump and damned if he wasn’t!
Anyway, evidence, if anybody needed it, that the left isn't quite ready to give up on lawfare against Trump, and radical legal arguments to enable it:
Trump Isn’t Going to be Impeached. Let’s Not Pretend That’s OK.
"There is also a further reason why neither double jeopardy nor President Trump’s re-election blocks impeaching President Trump for conduct related to January 6. Upon assuming office again, President Trump undertook a further impeachable action related to that day: he pardoned, and commuted the sentences of, all the people who had been convicted of criminal offenses connected to the Capitol riot."
So, he wants Trump impeached for carrying out a perfectly legal campaign promise. No TDS there, nosiree!
Yeah, you can impeach a President for abuse of the pardon power. As you reminded us a lot back in the day, it's a political act not a criminal procedure.
Wasn’t back in the day like 3 weeks ago?
You can stand on your head in the middle of an expressway, too, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Impeaching a President over a legal act he ran on doing is technically permissible, sure, but a lot of stupid and morally obtuse things are technically permissible.
I stay out of political prognostication these days, but I don't buy your broad principle that impeaching the President for a legal act is always politically bad news.
A legal act he ran on doing.
When you're impeaching on THAT basis, all pretense of it being anything but political warfare evaporates.
That's far from certain.
1. Presidents run on lots of stuff. Your thesis is that Trump had a mandate to pardon Jan06 people? That's nuts.
2. Presidents aren't elected by a majority.
3. Politics is not a snapshot of an election
4. Trump, in particular said lots of often mutually contradictory things.
5. Pardoning the violent J6 people surprised a lot of his own supporters.
6. "all pretense of it being anything but political warfare evaporates" is just you thinking you've got your thumb on the pulse of America. You don't.
I don't either (hence no political prognostication) but I do know what I don't know.
Note that I'm not arguing the opposite thesis, only that your thesis is broad, but based only on specific recent events. That's not a sustainable tension.
My thesis is that he had the legal power to do it, and publicly stated he'd do it as he was running for the office.
When you're impeaching Presidents for legally fulfilling campaign promises, I'll say it again: You've given up on even pretending it isn't raw political warfare.
" Pardoning the violent J6 people surprised a lot of his own supporters."
That is mind-reading writ extremely large.
Honestly, nothing he's done so far has actually surprised me as such, because I went in with no settled expectations to begin with, so nothing has happened that deviated from such expectations.
Vance said as much. People on here said as much.
This post is in line with a trend that has become very stark over the years: conservative elites simply don’t believe public corruption is a bad thing if it exists at all.
This sounds like replacing our jury system with the voting pool. At least for politicians. Everyone else gets the jury system
Counterpoint: the country worked well for 248 years without any immunity of any sort.
Speech and Debate Clause?
I heard that crazy Nancy Mace used it to make huge, unaccountable slander on a bunch of men. Sure is a lot of immunity for politicians and candidates going around lately.
How will we ever survive as a society if Nancy Mace and MTG are able to run their mouths on the floor of Congress without being prosecuted?
This cannot stand!
Because if this rant is proven to be completely false, then she will be completely immune from prosecution for defamation.
Fair point. I will amend, and even add one of my own: the country worked well for 248 years without any criminal immunity of any sort other than for members of Congress in the course of their legislative duties.
(I don't think QI is good, but it does exist, so that additional caveat is necessary.)
What about grants of immunity in exchange for testimony?
Is the collapse of the Republic nigh?!
The collapse of the Republic may not be imminent, but I suppose you don't have to look very far to find this massively abused do you ?
Consider Hillary's server. In an actual prosecution, the prosecutor would lean on the witnesses to turn. Only when something juicy and useful was extracted that could be used against the primary target would the prosecutor turn and offer an immunity deal. In a fake prosecution, the friendly prosecutor starts by immunising everyone in sight who might have some dirt to reduce the pressure to actually talk. Not exactly one of the Republics shining moments.
Wouldn't this create a terrible risk that a President facing indictment after his term of office ends, would chose to attempt a coup rather than face prosecution by his enemies?
Like, you know, Julius Caesar.
I wrote a long comment about Julius Caesar that was 403'd when I submitted it.
In summary, we should be concerned about incentivizing people from obtaining office to remain immune from prosecution.
We should also be aware that the reason why Caesar started a civil war was because his enemies in Rome were using the Senate to conduct lawfare against him, causing him to seek immunity in the first place.
But we already have a 28th amendment!?!
A Schrodinger's 28th Amendment!
The allegations in the New York indictment were beyond trivial. Voters simply did not care.
One summary: "The indictment accused him of taking $100,000 worth of free plane tickets and luxury hotel stays from wealthy Turkish nationals and at least one government official in a nearly decadelong corruption scheme."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/eric-adams-charges-dismissed-rcna191600
Another summary: "Prosecutors accused Adams in September of accepting travel perks from people affiliated with the Turkish government. In exchange, they argued, Adams used his influence to expedite the opening of a new Turkish consulate on the East Side, overruling fire inspectors who had found safety violations."
As to not caring, Eric Adams is very unpopular now, and his corruption is part of the reason. I speak of this as a NYC resident.
People are cynical about the ability to address corruption, especially with the Supreme Court narrowing corruption fighting devices, but there have been multiple corrupt public officials who received some rightful criminal response.
The appropriate amendment would be to repeal Trump v. U.S. and return to the principle that public servants are not above the law.
Joe, the comment to which you're responding (about voters not caring) is about the Trump indictment/prosecution, not the Adams one.
Right. The "New York indictment."
Still not trivial except in comparison to the national charges.
As to the voters not caring, well, not enough voters cared about any of them. More people did consider the local crime trivial partially because too many people exaggerated its triviality.
Nah, the felonious bookkeeping charge was really, really trivial.
It was not trivial to violate state law in the promotion of a scheme to hide information from the voters that also might have had illicit tax implications. N.Y. had a valid concern that its corporate law was being violated for such purposes, including in the financial center of Manhattan. Multiple people involved, including Michael Cohen,* were also targeted by prosecutors for their overall involvement. But Trump for some reason should not have any criminal consequences since it is too "trivial."
https://manhattanda.org/district-attorney-bragg-announces-34-count-felony-indictment-of-former-president-donald-j-trump/
See also: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5540299-AMI-non-prosecution-agreement-with-SDNY/
What was felonious about the bookkeeping?
You're sealioning.
I would agree; indeed, I feel so strongly about the need for such an amendment that I would be willing to have it apply only prospectively: it's more important to eliminate the idea of presidential immunity as a concept than it is to hold Trump accountable.
But I think a second paragraph of such an amendment is needed: the president cannot pardon himself. (There are obvious workarounds; he could reach a deal with his veep to get a pardon in exchange for resigning (like Ford/Nixon, though there's no evidence of any deal in that case). But then the veep can be held accountable for the pardon in a way that a president who pardons himself can't be.)
Could you elaborate? I’m not sure I understand the nature of the accountability you’re envisioning.
I suppose you could impeach the VP in the President's place.
I meant politically. Like Ford paid the price for pardoning Nixon. (Sucker! All he had to do was wait for John Roberts to say that former presidents can't be prosecuted, and his pardon would've been unnecessary.)
(But perhaps even legally; I would say that pardoning one's predecessor as part of a bargain is at least impeachmentworthy, if not criminal bribery.)
Oh yes, insisting on maximum judicial punishment for dictators is such a great idea in the developing world. The Hague or death! That way, they never agree to give up and go into comfortable exile. Let's make it a fight for survival, so more innocents can die! We need more of that morality!
Here at home, I'd much rather have an bad president stay in office than his successor refuse to pardon him.
That probably sounded better in your head. This is exactly why Roberts decided what he did. Statecraft does not always perfectly align with justice.
Hell no. No one is above the law. Elected officials need to be subject to the same legal processes as everyone else. The more immunity they get the more bad behavior we will see.
In Connecticut, where I went to college, state representative Christopher Shays was held in contempt of court for arguing with a judge in 1985. The judge involved said the offense was criminal, so the legislative immunity against civil arrest did not apply. Shays's
actions were rather popular with his constituents, and they re-elected him. He then won a special election to fill a congressional vacancy and served about twenty more years. So adjudication of his case would have been deferred from 1985 until 2007.
Connecticut's state legislators give other Interesting examples. one legislator convicted of murdering his wife. Another of child sexual abuse. Several involved in absentee ballot fraud, usually in city primaries. Quite a few DUIs. And the mayors of the state's large cities. Regular arrests for routine corruption, plus one astonishing case where a mayor was caught on a wiretap arranging a paid sexual encounter with preteen girls! And then there was the state's beloved Congressman, Governor, and multiply convicted felon John Rowland . . . .
If you're not familiar with real public corruption, this may sound like a good idea. But virtually every one of those guys, even the wife murderer, screamed the equivalent of "lawfare"! [Not Chris Shays, who was almost universally regarded as acting on principle.]