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Glossip v. Oklahoma: The Story Behind How a Death Row Inmate and the Oklahoma A.G. Concocted a Phantom "Brady Violation" and Got Supreme Court Review (Part I)
Glossip alleges that his prosecutors withheld evidence at his murder trial—and the Oklahoma A.G. curiously supports his claim. But the prosecutors didn't withhold anything. And the victim's family remains enmeshed in decades of frivolous capital litigation that has now reached the Supreme Court.
Next week the Supreme Court will hear oral argument in Glossip v. Oklahoma. Death row inmate Glossip claims that the prosecutors at his murder trial withheld evidence from him. In a curious twist, the State of Oklahoma has reversed its long-held position supporting Glossip's conviction and now joins Glossip. I have filed an amicus brief for the murder victim's family, presenting important facts about the case the parties have concealed from the Court. In this three-part series, I review the true facts of the case. Working together, Glossip and Oklahoma have concocted a phantom denial of evidence. In fact, the prosecutors never withheld any evidence from the defense. The Supreme Court should rapidly affirm the lower court's decision upholding Glossip's conviction and death sentence—and help bring the victim's family closer to closure after more than two decades of litigation.
In this first post, I demonstrate that the alleged violation of Brady v. Maryland (requiring the State to provide exculpatory evidence to a defendant) simply never happened. The evidence that Glossip alleges prosecutors withheld was, in fact, fully known to the defense, as my amicus brief explains. Tomorrow, in the second post, I will review Glossip's and Oklahoma's (non)responses to this decisive point. Their silence in briefing before the Court is powerful support for my position. Finally, in the last post, I draw some broader conclusions about non-adversarial litigation such as this one. This case presents a cautionary tale about the dangers of courts simply accepting an elected prosecutor's confession of "error," which may be politically motivated.
The story begins on January 7, 1997, when authorities found the slain body of Barry Van Treese in a motel located in Oklahoma City that he owned. Van Treese had been missing for several hours that day. The subsequent search for Van Treese consumed everyone associated with the motel … everyone, that is, except Richard Glossip.
Glossip managed the motel and had allowed it to fall into disrepair in the latter months of 1996. Additionally, Van Treese and his wife, Donna, suspected that Glossip was embezzling money. Van Treese had planned on confronting Glossip about these issues on January 6, 1997. But Glossip said that encounter never happened. Instead, Glossip maintained that Van Treese was his normal self on that day.
As police were searching for Van Treese the next day, suspicion quickly fell on Glossip, who provided conflicting statements and sent investigators on false leads. Later, a friend of Glossip's—Justin Sneed—would confess that he (Sneed) had murdered Van Treese and that Glossip had commissioned him to commit the murder. In 1998, a jury convicted Glossip and he was sentenced to death. After reversal of that conviction for ineffective assistance of counsel, in 2004 a jury again found Glossip guilty and he was sentenced to death based on testimony from Sneed and other witnesses. The judge who presided over the trial found Sneed "to be a credible witness on the stand," as quoted at p. 46 of the 2022 State's Submission to Parole Board. At sentencing, another judge echoed this conclusion, saying to Glossip: "I would say that after observing the witnesses and hearing the testimony I have absolute confidence in the decision the jury reached, both to convict you, to find the aggravators and to impose the sentence of death," as quoted at p. 48 of the same 2022 submission.
In 2007, the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals ("OCCA") affirmed Glossip's conviction and sentence, rejecting Glossip's claim that the evidence only proved his was an accessory after the fact. In the years since, courts have rejected multiple challenges by Glossip to his conviction and death sentence.
Nearly two decades later, Oklahoma was preparing to execute Glossip when a new Attorney General, Gentner Drummond, was elected. Shortly after assuming office in January 2023, and apparently sensing political opportunity, the new Attorney General hastily commissioned an "independent" review of Glossip's conviction. Conveniently, General Drummond hired Rex Duncan, his lifelong friend and a political supporter who possessed limited experience in capital litigation. Duncan suddenly discovered "new" evidence the prosecution had purportedly concealed from the defense.
As the tale is told in Glossip's and Oklahoma's briefs before the Supreme Court, the trial prosecutors withheld from Glossip's defense team information about Sneed's lithium usage and related psychiatric care. This story rests on an interpretation of notes the prosecutors took during a pretrial interview of Sneed. Specifically, General Drummond asserts that the handwritten notes indicated that Sneed told the prosecutors "that he was 'on lithium' not by mistake, but in connection with a 'Dr. Trumpet.'"
Before the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals (the "OCCA"), Oklahoma's highest court on criminal issues, five judges considered General Drummond's confession of error and were unimpressed. In April 2023, in a detailed opinion, the OCCA unanimously concluded that the Attorney General's concession was "not based in law or fact."
In May 2023, Glossip sought certiorari, supported by Attorney General Drummond. The Court re-listed Glossip's petition twelve times through the end of 2023.
In January 2024, the Supreme Court granted certiorari to review questions relating to the Court's jurisdiction and the implications of "the State's suppression" of Sneed's "admission he was under the care of a psychiatrist …." Because no one was defending the OCCA's judgment below, the Court appointed Chris Michel, a very capable appellate lawyer in Washington, D.C., to defend it as Court-appointed amicus.
The Supreme Court lacks jurisdiction in this case, for the reasons explained in briefs by the Court-appointed amicus, Utah and six other states, and the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation. But more important, Glossip's conviction should be affirmed because the prosecutors never suppressed anything.
Here's what really happened during the prosecutors' interview of Sneed two decades ago: On October 22, 2003, before Glossip's retrial, prosecutors Connie Smothermon and Gary Ackley interviewed Sneed, with Sneed's counsel present. Smothermon and Ackley both took notes. Read in context, the notes show that Sneed told the group that members of Glossip's defense team had previously visited him (Sneed) and questioned him about being "on lithium?" and a "Dr[.] Trumpet?" Smothermon and Ackley simply took notes recording what Sneed recounted about questions from Glossip's own defense team!
Turning first to Smothermon's notes, General Drummond argues that the prosecutor had "taken handwritten notes confirming her knowledge of Sneed's diagnosis and treatment"—e.g., treatment for a psychiatric condition by lithium by a Dr. Trumpet. But General Drummond fails to quote Smothermon's notes accurately, much less discuss their context or meaning in any detail. Smothermon's note regarding lithium contains a question mark—e.g., her note reads, "on lithium?" And her related note about "Dr[.] Trumpet" likewise contains a question mark. You can see the notes in question in the image below—with "on lithium?" and "Dr[.] Trumpet?" flagged with black arrows:
Stepping back to examine the surrounding context of these two notes reveals that Smothermon was simply recording Sneed recounting what Glossip's defense team was questioning him (Sneed) about—hence, the two question marks reflecting questions being asked. Smothermon's adjoining notes reflect two visits ("2X") by defense representatives—with notes about the two visits separated by a curving line.
Turning to the first visit, as shown by the note flagged with a red arrow above, Sneed's visitors were "women." As shown by the notes flagged with a blue arrow, that visit involved an investigator ("invest.") who may have been heavy set ("heavy set?"). As shown by the notes flagged by the green arrow, the defense representatives may have been involved in Glossip's earlier direct "appeal." And, finally, as shown by the notes flagged by the two black arrows, the women questioned Sneed about (1) whether he was "on lithium?" and (2) a "Dr[.] Trumpet?"—i.e., questioned by the women representing Glossip. Thus, read in context, the key words in Smothermon's notes reveal that Sneed was recounting not what Smothermon had independently learned (much less confirmed) but rather what questions Glossip's defense team was asking Sneed.
While General Drummond fleetingly (and inaccurately) discusses Smothermon's notes, he fails to substantively discuss the notes taken by the prosecutor seated next to Smothermon during the interview, Gary Ackley. Ackley's contemporaneous notes interlock with Smothermon's and confirm that the prosecutors were merely recording Sneed recounting two meetings with the defense team.
At the top part of his notes, Ackley wrote that the witness (i.e., "W" or Sneed) was "visited by 2 women who said they rep Glossip – heavy 1 'Inv' & 1 'Atty' – Appellate?" This important sentence in Ackley's notes is flagged by the red arrow below:
Ackley's notes further indicate, as flagged by the blue arrow above, that the two women who "said they rep[resented] Glossip" were "1 'Inv' & 1 'Atty' – Appellate?"—that is, the women who visited Sneed were an investigator and an (appellate?) attorney representing Glossip. Ackley's notes reflect, as flagged by the black arrow above, that it was these two women who asked Sneed about lithium ("Li"). And, as flagged by the green arrow above, Sneed indicated to Glossip's defense representatives that the lithium was being prescribed in connection with a "tooth pulled." Further, as flagged by the orange arrow, the women asked Sneed about "Nurse's cart record discrepancies v. W's [i.e., Sneed's] jail permanent record"—i.e., issues about Sneed's medical history. And Glossip's defense team also asked Sneed about an "IQ test" and "GED, etc."
That Ackley's notes correspond so closely with Smothermon's notes begs the question why General Drummond fails to discuss what Ackley recorded in his notes—and has even failed to include all of Ackley's notes before the OCCA and the Supreme Court. General Drummond's (and Glossip's) omission of Ackley's notes is deceptive. The text of Ackley's notes leave no doubt that Sneed was being asked about lithium and a possible doctor by women representing Glossip.
Thus, during their October 22, 2003, pretrial interview, Smothermon and Ackley simply recorded Sneed recounting a first interview by two women representing Glossip. Did such an interview by the defense team take place? It clearly did.
In earlier litigation before the OCCA, the Oklahoma Attorney General's Office filed a sixty-two-page opposition to Glossip's Fourth Successive Petition for Post-Conviction Release. That opposition explained that on April 16, 2001, before Sneed's first conviction had been reversed, Glossip's post-conviction attorney, Ms. Wyndi Hobbs, visited Sneed in prison. Hobbs was with an investigator named Ms. Lisa Cooper. During the meeting, attorney Hobbs told Sneed that it looked like Glossip would get a new trial and that there was a good chance that Sneed would be called to testify again. Hobbs indicated that she was going to "set up a second meeting and take [Sneed] an affidavit to review and sign." Apparently, Sneed "signed releases for juvenile, jail, prison and criminal records."
These references in the record establish that Glossip's defense team met with Sneed—i.e., a meeting with two women (attorney Wyndi Hobbs and investigator Lisa Cooper). That such a meeting occurred reinforces the conclusion that Smothermon's and Ackley's notes simply reflect Sneed recounting defense team questions.
Of course, if the prosecutor's notes merely record Sneed recounting questioning from the defense team, the notes could not reflect information withheld from the defense. The notes would reflect information about the defense. No Brady violation could even possibly exist. Glossip and the Oklahoma A.G. have simply concocted a phantom constitutional claim lacking any basis. And they have subjected the victim's family to additional, frivolous litigation on top of two decades of earlier litigation.
So do Glossip and Oklahoma have any response to these damning arguments? Their (non)response is the subject of tomorrow's post.
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"I review the true facts of the case."
You don't have to embellish your position for us; just say you're reviewing the facts - especially since you're advocating for one side.
I read the article by that bitch Galek.
Then I read the opinions of the appellate courts, which detailed the facts.
I conclude that Glossip is guilty of murder.
That's not really the issue, though.
I mean, it kind of is. Part of a Brady claim is whether the evidence would have probably changed the verdict: if the other evidence of guilt is overwhelming, then that’s certainly relevant. (Not, of course, that I expect Michael Ejercito’s comment to affect anyone’s opinion on that score.)
Absent evidence that Glossip was in the Zeta Retivuli System during the entire month the murder happened, what could exonerate him?
"Reasonable probability," not "would have probably."
But separate from the Glossip case, that's one of the problems with the Brady framework. The actual case and its progeny say that prosecutors have to turn over anything favorable to the defense. But (a) the prosecutor is the one who decides in the first instance what needs to be turned over;¹ and (b) if a prosecutor violates Brady and isn't caught until after the fact, the courts do not ask, "Should this have been turned over?" but rather, "Was there a reasonable probability that turning it over would've mattered?" So the vast vast majority of Brady violations end up being harmlesserrored away, with at most the court issuing a mild admonishment of an anonymous prosecutor.
¹A court can order the prosecutor to turn over some specific piece of evidence, but that only happens if the defense knows about it and therefore knows to ask for such an order.
The death penalty helps exaggerate various aspects of this case.
Oklahoma had problems with the method of execution.
We also have the common long convoluted road to execution. In many places, here and abroad, the twenty-five years in prison would have been punishment enough.
Finally, there is a concern for the victim’s family. A victim’s family warrants deep concern. In death penalty cases, they are often used to rail against those against the death penalty.
In practice, there are a variety of opinions shared by the family of the victim, including those who oppose the death penalty. The victim’s family is often divided in their views. I recall one case involving NY where two elderly brothers split on the just result.
As to these posts, it’s appreciated to get another view. My overall sentiment is that the death penalty at the very least should only be applied when it is extremely clear.
The fact there are various points of view by informed parties, even if both sides are quite sure of themselves, makes me doubt that is true. But, as with a recent execution, I’m not going to try to argue one or the other side on the facts. Too many people are a bit too sure of themselves there.
In many "Places Abroad" Glossip would have been executed within a year or 2 of his conviction.
Not too many since few places have the death penalty.
55 countries have it. But a life sentence to hard labor in a gulag would be an acceptable alternative.
86 countries have the death penalty.
In the US it is either the death penalty or life imprisonment, not a gulag.
Read
The Death of Punishment, Robert Blecker, 2014
Only the most populous country, the richest country, most of the A-rab world, Israel when they wanted to, Japan, Roosh-a, Cuber, and if the English and French knew London/Paris would become Istanbul with even worse teeth, they probably wouldn't have retired the gallows/guillotine
Frank
More than I first thought though granted only a smaller subset have had many executions in recent years.
https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/countries-with-death-penalty/
As arguments go, “The fact that people disagree means someone shouldn’t be executed” seems even less impressive than “the fact that the defendant was able to delay things so long means that they shouldn’t be executed” to me.
Glossip loses 6-3 at the SC. regardless of arguments or guilt.
It is not clear that Glossip will lose 6-3. This has the feel of one of those outliers where two or more conservatives join with the liberals. Just ask another Paul, Paul Clement.
https://www.lawdork.com/p/oklahoma-ag-scotus-glossip
I amend my prediction. 5-3. Gorsuch has recused in earlier phases of this case so I assume he'll recuse again.
SC dockets:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-6500.html
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-7466.html
The Supreme Court rarely takes these cases & has not shown much concern about speeding things along.
I will hold on to my belief that there is a reasonable chance at least that this is one of those outliers, which exist, where the conservatives accept there is some procedural problem.
There is a big procedural problem, which is why the Supreme Court doesn’t have jurisdiction.
They might decide that. But, "procedural problems" don't stop them in multiple cases because they in effect want to skip over them.
So, if it doesn't here, if there is one [the point is disputed], I would not be surprised.
I note that the CJLF. in its amicus brief, cites this no doubt objective and fully factual academic treatise: "Rogue Prosecutors: How Radical Soros Lawyers Are Destroying America’s Communities"
In other Death Penalty news, Ali-bama carried out the second Successful (for Ali-bama, not the condemned) Nitrogen Asphyxiation(not drowned, there’s a difference) Execution, so much better than Cyanide (remember the prisoner who claimed his “Apricot Allergy” made the Gas Chamber Cruel & Unusual?) and unlike Pancuronium and Sodium Thiopental no problem obtaining Nitrogen, in fact you’re probably breathing it right now.
2 Things Ali-bama does well, College Foo-Bawl (well, the University of Ali-bama anyway) and Nitrogen Asphyxiation Executions!
Frank
I don't see why we can't use fentanyl.
That’s because umm, you’re a word that rhymes with “Idiot”, Nebraska did one in 2018 and 1: the legitimate supply of Fent-a-nol (I’ve given up trying to get you Rubes to pronounce it correctly) is always running low (for Open Heart Cases we’d usually check out 4-6 20ml Vials (the “Party Pack”) at 50ug/ml, that’s 1000ug per vial (AKA as a milligram) and with Fent-a-nol being some 100X more potent than Morphine (but with safer Therapeutic Index) thats 100mg Morphine Equivalents per Vial, or about what Hunter does on a Tuesday afternoon.
2: It’s too good for the dirtbags, I’m sure you could die from fucking Ariana Grande, it’s supposed to be Capital “Punishment”
Frank
We can. It is in the protocol of Nevada and Nebraska. No reason not to use it.
Cassell has an interesting Wiki bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_G._Cassell
He doesn't strike me as someone who believes that it's better that ten guilty men go free than one innocent man be convicted.
"General Drummond"
Ugh. Its a description of the breadth of his office, he's not a soldier!
But “general” is also a description of the breadth of a soldier’s office.
No, its a rank. A general can just be in charge of supply or can lead troops. An AG is always the chief legal officer of a government.
Drummond was an Air Force F-15 pilot with combat hours over Ear-Rock (stand by for Hobie-Stank insult), more of a "Soldier" than Sergeant Major Pepper-Waltz
Frank
It has been my general view that policy matters are entrusted to the elected branches of government. I’ve often expressed this view by objecting to changes the judiciary seeks to impose against the elected branches’ will. But there is a corollary, which is that the judicial branch should avoid interfering with the legislative and executive branches when they seek to introduce change.
Here a change in executive branch officials has resulted in new leadership which wants to be more lenient to and more open to the claims of criminal defendants than the past leadership was. The judiciary may not like this. The victims may not like this. It may be unwise. It may be foolish. But it strikes me generally within the prerogatives of the executive branch to do. And it strikes me as somewhat unseemly for the judiciary, based on a lawyer representing victims, to rush to execute someone that the current leadership in the prosecutor’s office doesn’t, wisely or unwisely, want to execute.
I understand that in Oklahoma the pardon power lies with the Governor’s office, not the local prosecutor’s. I also understand that the prosecutor’s office is ethically bound not to collude with the defense to misrepresent facts to achieve a desired result in the absence of a genuinely adversarial proceeding, as Mr. Caswell is alleging is occurring. I understand federal judges can’t find that misconduct occurred when it didn’t just because a prosecutor seeks a different result.
Nonetheless, I am skeptical of the idea of the families of victims taking such a personal interest in seeing someone executed. Our heritage is English common law, not Sharia law. Murder is fundamentally an offense against the State, not a dispute between families.
And here you lose me.
I have heard this way too many times to put any stock in it. Sure, avoid feuds and all that, but that "offense against the State" smacks more of maintaining State power than reality. The State doesn't need a prosecution monopoly to prevent feuds. All it really needs is a State process which leaves prosecution to victims.
What is especially galling about that phrase is it assumes those are your only two choices -- State objectivity or family feuds. Where are the individuals in all this? An individual was murdered, his wife and family and friends are the victims, and they are all individuals too.
If you and others who repeat this nonsense actually believed it, every murdered homeless person and prostitute would engender as much sympathy and outrage as when JFK was murdered (not to mention the disappointment of so many statists that Trump was not murdered). The rich and famous would not generate expensive public investigations which the relatives and fans could pay for, and the dead homeless and prostitutes would get decent investigations. The hypocrisy is rank.
It's just another way to reinforce government power. It is all ritual to impress the gullible voters who are too stupid to think for themselves (and anyone who thinks I believe that has self-identified as a just another hypocritical statist). Justice has nothing to do with it.
So if a murderer has enough money, he just pays off the victim’s family to drop the case.
Better yet, for a wealthy but unpleasant man, his family pay a hitman to bump him off, with the understanding that no charges will be brought.
It's not enough to think for yourself. You also need to reason for yourself.
Don't play up your stupidity. I said no such thing. Show me a quote. I can't rebut imaginary made-up nonsense.
"Man rejects logical conclusion of his premises"
Murder is a dessert topping AND a floor wax, it's an offense against the victim, the victim's associates, AND the state. Not just one of them.
"Justice has nothing to do with it."
We're not talking about Justice; we're talking about government prosecutions and judicial punishments.
In our society, we accept that the victims will rarely receive whatever "Justice" they think they deserve (even with Victim Assistance programs).
Go back to the 1800s if you want that kind of Frontier Justice, vigilantism, or last century for Mob / Mafia rule.
It's not frontier justice. Show me where I said anything like that. You can't. Break it down, quote by quote, inference by inference, and show how you made up all those inferences and quotes out of your own imagination.
You may accept government almighty and not give a shit how incompetent it is. I accept that government incompetence needs to be fixed.
HA!
It must suck to be you.
At least I have a little substance in my comments. If all you have is insults, then you have no facts and no logic.
Well, the Jerk Store called, they're out of you!
I find myself curious. What is the basis of your confidence that if human beings acted in some other capacity than as a government – as individuals, members of some privsfe orfanization or association or corporation – they’d behave any more competently? You’ve repeatedly reiterated your view that governments are inherently incompetent. That may well be. But what makes you believe human beings can be expected to behave any more competently if they act in some other capacity?
It’s not like we can have a world where people just don’t act. If we don’t act, we starve. And if we act, in any capacity at all, we risk doing so incompetently. It seems to me that your belief only government is incompetent and if we get rid of government everything will be OK is based on a very optimistic idea of how competent people will be in government’s absence.
The general tone of your argument reminds me of the Brutalist movement, a short-lived mid-20th architectural movement. The brutalists had this interesting idea that the reason for all the war and slaughter people had gone through in the two then-recent world wars is beauty. The desire for beauty, they thought, is what drives people to slaughter each other. So if we can just get rid of beauty, they said, our problems will be solved and everything will be OK. They did their best. They made some of the ugliest buildings the world has ever seen. But let’s just say that their view of how people would behave in the absence of beauty was as wildly over-optimistic as your view of how they’d behave in the absence of government.
Have you considered the possibility that this idea you have that you in your genius have succeeded in isolating the one single cause of all our problems might be just a wee bit over-optimistic as well? I’m not saying you’re dumb. Those brutalist architects were pretty smart people, just a wee bit overconfident in themselves.
What? That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. Not only is that not hypocrisy, but your comment isn't even rationality. "Murder is a crime against the state, and therefore you must care just as much about each victim regardless of who he is"? Say wha?
In general, the executive branch has the authority to be more lenient to criminal defendants. But the specifics of how any individual official can do that (particularly in a government like Oklahoma’s, which divides executive power among different, independent officers) is limited, especially in the case of a defendant who has been lawfully convicted and sentenced.
Cassell is an excellent victim's advocate and a great legal mind, both of which were needed in this case. He presented a fact based brief, not a brief about families.
Looking forward to the next 2 installments.
ReadetY:
Both the victims' families and the defendants' families should and, often, do have an. interest for justice, within their cases. That is the norm.
Although rare, having an amicus brief or behalf of the victim's family was a wise step in this case. The AG did not due the due diligence in the case and used that self-inflicted error to wrongly ask for a reduction in the sentence.
For that important reason, alone, I am glad Cassell took the case and presented the facts, which refute the AG.
In addition, victims' families have been, unnecessarily, dragged through 15-25 years of appeals.
Since 1976, Virginia, has executed 113 murderers, after 7 years of appeals, on average.
How? Responsible judges.
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Nonetheless, I am skeptical of the idea of the families of victims taking such a personal interest in seeing someone executed. Our heritage is English common law, not Sharia law. Murder is fundamentally an offense against the State, not a dispute between families.
Private prosecutions were a traditional English practice. I would not reference “Sharia Law” as if it is specifically a Muslim practice.
Private civil lawsuits (see, e.g., the concept of “private attorney generals”) still sometimes promote public justice.
Criminal law involves wrongs against the state. Nonetheless, the state can take into consideration of victims, including protecting certain “victims’ rights.” Victims can take an interest in ongoing cases though as I note separately, their concerns will be variable.
Having taken a quick look at the underlying materials, I think the pro-Glossip reading of the notes is tendentious at best, and the Brady claim seems pretty thin.
1. I think that, based just on the contents of the notes, Prof. Cassell’s reading as at least as plausible as Glossip’s. Which means, absent extrinsic evidence, that the claim fails.
2. Although the briefs are very careful not to say so in as many words, I gather that there’s no evidence except the notes that “Dr. Trumpet” actually did prescribe lithium to Sneed. That seems very unlikely if Glossip’s version is right, but very plausible if Prof. Cassell’s is.
3. In the absence of external corroboration, it also seems very unlikely that these notes would have added much to attacking Sneed’s credibility.
I also note that the briefs (Glossip’s in particular) overplay their hand quite a bit. They seem to assume that the noted conclusively establish that the lithium prescription occurred and the prosecutors knew about it, get pretty loose with their citations, and ignore some of the obvious problems with their case instead of acknowledging and addressing them.
Cassell's reading of the notes is, most likely, more than plausible.
Both Connie Smothermon and Gary Ackley are still around and Cassell would not have made the assertions without their corroboration, unless Cassell addresses evidence with as much irresponsibility as the AG. Very unlikely.
The Supreme Court Halted Richard Glossips Execution
https://reason.com/2023/05/08/the-supreme-court-has-halted-richard-glossips-execution/?itm_source=parsely-api
(ORDER LIST: 598 U.S.)
FRIDAY, MAY 5, 2023
ORDER IN PENDING CASE
22A941 GLOSSIP, RICHARD E. V. OKLAHOMA
The application for stay of execution of sentence of death presented to Justice Kavanaugh and by him referred to the Court is granted pending the disposition of the petitions for writs of certiorari, Nos. 22-6500 and 22-7466. Should both petitions for writs of certiorari be denied, this stay shall terminate automatically. In the event either petition for a writ of certiorari is granted, the stay shall terminate upon the issuance of the mandate of this Court.
Justice Gorsuch took no part in the consideration or
decision of this application.
Is there any particular reason you posted this?
AH! Didn't see the date.
Good point.
Is that the quality of your comments when you don't rely on insults?
Probably why you didn't answer my questions above.
And yes, this is an insult. It's fun, and you like it too.
Remember this comic book story from the early 70’s (it was a reprint from the 50’s) “Weird Westerns” or something like that, guy murders his business partner at “4 Corners Borders of AZ/NM/Utah/Colorado” keeps having nightmares of being executed by the methods of each state Gas Chamber for Nevada/AZ, Shooting/Hanging for Utah, Electric Chair for New May-He-Co,
can’t remember how it ended.
Frank
Speaking of Death, Pete Rose, Kris Kristofferson, and now John Amos (of "Good Times") and yet Jimmuh Cartuh Survives!!!!
Frank
So why is the Republican AG of Oklahoma doing this? He's also against religious charter schools. Hmmm ...
Smothermon? Glossip? Dr. Trumpet??
The names in this case are straight out of either Dickens or Dr. Seuss.
Will also mention that it’s possible to argue someone is mistaken without claiming they have committed fraud.
I don't think yours are "damning arguments", I think they are one reasonable interpretation among many. You might be right, and you probably even have the better of the argument, but you're overselling it.