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Taylor Swift and Political Ignorance
A recent poll finding that 18 percent of all Americans and 32 percent of Republicans believe Taylor Swift is part of a covert conspiracy effort to help Biden win reelection. This is just one example of the broader problem of political ignorance and bias.

A recent Monmouth poll finds that 18% of Americans and 32% of Republicans believe there is a "a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the presidential election." The percentage of believers is higher among the 46% of Americans who have previously heard of the Swift conspiracy theory, and is especially high among Republicans who had previously heard of it (44% of that subgroup said they believed such a covert effort exists). As more Republicans learn of this conspiracy theory, more might come to believe it.
Over the last few weeks, some conservative activists and online "influencers" have promoted the absurd conspiracy theory that Taylor Swift's relationship with Kansas City Chiefs player Travis Kelce is actually a "deep state" government "psyop" designed to help Biden win the election (presumably, Swift -grateful for being set up with Kelce and resulting publicity, will endorse Biden in exchange). Large numbers of Republicans (though still a minority) now apparently believe it! In fairness, some of those who told Monmouth they believed in the existence of the "covert government effort" might have had some other type of conspiracy in mind. But the one involving Kelce has gotten the broadest circulation.
I won't spend much time and effort refuting the Swift-Kelce conspiracy theory. Suffice to say that Swift is a billionaire and the most popular celebrity in the world. She doesn't need the help of Deep State Democrats to either find men to date or generate publicity for her music. And if the White House wanted Swift to endorse Biden, they could probably achieve that goal just by asking her. After all, she did endorse him in 2020, apparently without getting anything in exchange (though I suppose conspiracy theorists can argue that whoever she was dating back then was actually a Deep State plant).
In and of itself, widespread belief in the Taylor Swift conspiracy theory probably doesn't matter much. It almost certainly won't change the outcome of the presidential election. Nor is it likely to impact government policy in any meaningful way.
The problem is that the kind of credulousness on display here is also evident in many voters' beliefs in a wide range of other conspiracy theories. The Washington Post gives some examples in its story on the Monmouth poll:
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An August 2022 YouGov poll after the search of Mar-a-Lago showed 38 percent of Republicans believed the FBI planted evidence there. Just 23 percent disagreed with that proposition (another 39 percent were "not sure").
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A YouGov poll the next month showed a majority of Republicans said it was at least "probably true" that the FBI planted classified documents.
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A Suffolk University poll shortly after Jan. 6, 2021, showed 58 percent of Donald Trump supporters said the Capitol riot was "mostly an Antifa-inspired attack that involved only a few Trump supporters." There remains zero evidence for this.
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A recent Washington Post-University of Maryland poll showed 34 percent said it was at least "probably true" that the FBI organized and encouraged the attack on the Capitol. (About half that number believed there was "solid evidence" of this.)
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YouGov polling in December showed 42 percent of Republicans believe "many top Democrats" are caught up in child sex-trafficking rings, 35 percent believe mass shootings have been faked to promote gun control, and 28 percent believe the government used covid vaccines to implant microchips in people.
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The same poll showed fully 60 percent of Republicans believe there is "a single group of people who secretly control events and rule the world together." (Democratic support for the proposition was about half — 28 percent.)
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And, of course, polls generally show around 6 in 10 or more Republicans continue to believe the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, despite the complete lack of evidence more than three years later.
These are all examples of right-wing voters' credulousness - none more consequential than continued widespread belief in Donald Trump's "Big Lie" about the 2020 election. But there are plenty of left-wing examples of widespread ignorance and belief in misinformation, as well. Notable cases include 9/11 "trutherism" (disproportionately embraced by people on the left) and belief that "the Jews" were at least partly responsible for the 2008 financial crisis (much more common among Democrats than Republicans). Overall, it appears left-wingers and right-wingers are about equally susceptible to conspiracy-mongering. Both tend to be more open to conspiracy theories that reinforce their preexisting views than those that cut against them.
As I've explained before (e.g. here, here, and here), this is part of the more general problem of voter "rational ignorance" and bias. Because there is so little chance that any one vote will influence an electoral outcome, most voters have little incentive to devote more than minimal time to learning about political issues. Their ignorance makes them more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other misinformation.
That problem is further exacerbated by the lack of incentive to objectively evaluate whatever information the voters do learn. In considering political information, many voters act not as objective truth-seekers, but as "political fans" who tend to overvalue any claims that cohere with their preexisting views, and downplay or ignore any that cut against them. Just as sports fans tend to be biased in favor of their favorite team, political fans are biased in favor of their preferred party, ideology, and leaders - and against their rivals.
At this moment in history, I think right-wing political ignorance and bias are greater menaces than that on the other side of the political spectrum. Over the last few years, lies and disinformation spread by Trump and his supporters - particularly the Big Lie - have had more impact than their left-wing counterparts. But, whether or not you agree with me on that, it's important to recognize the enormous scope of the problem - and the fact that it isn't limited to one side of the political spectrum.
Recognizing the problem cannot, by itself, solve it. But it's at least a step in the right direction. I consider a variety of potential ways to mitigate political ignorance and bias in this recent article and in my book Democracy and Political Ignorance.
UPDATE: I have made minor additions to this post.
UPDATE 2: I have fixed what was previously an incorrect link to the Monmouth poll.
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The PT Barnuming of the Republican party.
If Taylor Swift is going to influence an election, then the country is in a sorry state indeed.
She could and it is.
Dr. Ed 2 : "She could and it is"
Cartoon: https://www.austinchronicle.com/comics/2024-02-09/this-modern-world/
Can you or any of the other people nodding their heads at Ilya's unhinged rant explain to me how believing TS is working to influence the election is akin to believing in flat earth or alien abductions? Or do you guys just regurgitate everything he regurgitates from braindead MSM headlines?
Somin says that a rich celebrity would not do something for money or publicity because she already has money and publicity! Convinced?
Q. At what point did she have enough money and fame that she slacked off?
A. Never happened, won't happen. If you think it has or will, you don't understand celebritiness.
I kind of think this lying(?) about what he actually said is as much a part of the rest of his argument as the conspiracy theories.
But they don't just believe "TS is working to influence the election."
Endorsing a candidate is perfectly normal. What they believe is that she is involved in "a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the presidential election."
And some go further, as Ilya points out.
Over the last few weeks, some conservative activists and online "influencers" have promoted the absurd conspiracy theory that Taylor Swift's relationship with Kansas City Chiefs player Travis Kelce is actually a "deep state" government "psyop" designed to help Biden win the election (presumably, Swift -grateful for being set up with Kelce and resulting publicity, will endorse Biden in exchange). Large numbers of Republicans (though still a minority) now apparently believe it!
This is looney tunes.
What people are actually overwhelmingly talking about is TS's increasing activism for the Dem party. Which is not only not a conspiracy its an open fact.
Ilya and Co OTOH are trying to spin it into a conspiracy theory by conflating it and modifying it with other random garbage. Its like if you start talking about the greed of oil corporations and I reply 'oh so you think the evil oil barons are sending ninjas out to assassinate you and are broadcasting mindcontrol rays out into the population huh?' Its a pretty lame tactic. Ilya and the msm should be ashamed for such dumb desperate gaslighting. And anyone who actually falls for it probably has a double digit iq.
How does that fit with the "covert government" machinations or the "deep state"
If it was simply that they think Swift is a democrat and is being vocal about her views trying to convince others, then the answer to the question would be no. That is unless you think ALL activism from those with left leaning views are part of a covert government and/or deep state conspiracy, in which case that is even worse
Clearly an anti-MAGA conspiracy to ensure a KC win to boost the Swift / Kelce profile. How else could Greenlaw possibly "tear his ACL" just stepping out onto the field?
Unless you’ve been living under a rock you’d understand that a lot of politics and seemingly grassroots spontaneous movements have a behind the scenes component. Seemingly separate independent news organizations gather together to set a narrative. Politicians talk with celebrities privately.
You, Ilya, and the MSM claiming the above paragraph is just mad ravings from lunatics in straitjackets are either gaslighting with a very poor opinion of the people you expect to fall for this or you’re about as intelligent as the ‘credulous republicans’ you’re imagining.
So you would agree that Republican activists and news organizations were engaged in a covert government conspiracy to get Donald Trump elected in 2020?
Well you could phrase it that way but an even bigger covert government 'conspiracy' took place against Trump.
I think you're missing my point. I don't think the description meets what people would consider a covert government conspiracy, and therefore even if that is how you want to define I don't think that is what people answering the poll are answering. But I did want to see if the description applied to the right as well. I find it interesting the felt the need to only half admit it and still attack left (which by the way I'm not part of) instead of just sticking to the argument and saying yes.
Ultimately if the only thing being claimed is that people of the same political leaning coordinate with each other to get out their message and convince people to vote for their preferred candidate then I'd agree. But I don't think that is an accurate description. If it was there wouldn't have been any reason to link Swift to Biden in the first place since celebrities voicing their opinions is not newsworthy. Additionally if that is how people thought of the question the percentage of people saying they believed it would be much higher (on the right as well).
The question didn’t use the term “deep state.” Somin did, as did you. And the question didn’t refer to a “covert government conspiracy.” You did.
Politicians and private parties engage in communications and coordination, often undisclosed. That could be rightly described, and not so simply dismissed, as being “covert.”
I just took a look back and she already seems to have expressed a strong leaning against Trump, as in this Twitter post in August 2020.
She also employed seemingly anti-Republican lyrics in a 2022 song release, as described in this article in The Hill.
Now that I see that she has in fact previously been sort of vocal about her anti-Republican sentiments, I’d say there’s a significant chance she intends to exercise some kind of influence in this election. (We all try to “influence” things. That’s not a loaded word. OK?) If she does, it will probably be more on the downlow than overt.
Until I researched and wrote this post, I had no opinion about Taylor Swift and her political leanings. Though I still have pretty much no interest in the matter, I now see why people think there’s a there there.
You can conflate that with “conspiratorial” ideation, as you seem wanting to do.
The ironic thing is that the people who are obsessed with this alleged “Taylor Swift conspiracy” are not people on the right, but people on the left. Since the 2020 election conspiracy theories, many people on the left have this knee-jerk response to any person on the right who describes anything political.
“Oh. So you think there’s a conspiracy?” they ask, like the scornful bitches that they are.
I said to a friend on the left, “The border patrol is simply signing in and releasing just about anybody who crosses the Mexican-U.S. border.”
“Oh. So you think there’s a conspiracy?” he asked.
Yes, Queenie. We’re all just a bunch of dumb niggers.
No, I think it's just that people like you try to pretend they're not happening and claiming ignorance, and being proud of that ignorance, a rejection of reality as loopy as the theories themselves and kind of proving his point into the bargain.
AA: 'It is truly the lowest of the low to spin this into a conspiracy theory.'
AA, 34 minutes later: 'of COURSE Taylor Swift's latest relationship is a Deep State operation!'
Truly an unserious way to go through life.
Shorter AmosArch: "I'm not crazy, because I believe in a lot of conspiracy theories."
So, in other words, MAGA.
Because he’s directly referencing actual conspiracy theories, not whether Ms Swift could effect the election of her own volition.
I mean, she "can" influence it at least slightly. She does have a vote after all.
So can I.
Look at you influencing elections.
Hey, there's a point, and since voting is by secret ballot, it's obviously a covert act.
What's the problem here?
Nothing at all. Looks like all those crazy GOP nuts were right.
1. It was the pollster Monmouth who chose the word "covert", not those who answered the poll question
2. The question they asked was : "Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the
presidential election actually exists, or not?"
3. I would answer "Yes" to that question. Because I am not offered - in a poll - the choice of adjusting the words to "Do you think the Biden campaign is privately engaging Taylor's Swift's help in messaging for the Presidential campaign ?" Biden campaign is close enough to government, and privately is close enough to covert for a poll answer.
4. Obviously some folk would cavil more than I would at the detail of the text which presumably explains why only 18% answer "Yes" (or strictly "exists".)
5. If the pollster had asked my question instead, I would guess roughly 82% would have said "yes." If the Biden campaign knew it had a supportive celeb with a wide influencing reach and they weren't co-ordinating messaging with that celeb, they should be looking for a new line of work. And if they were doing the co-ordinating in public, rather than in private, ditto.
6. Note that in its headline, releasing the poll result, Monmouth replaces its poll question - "covert government effort" with "election conspiracy theory". Which tells you what you need to know about Monmouth.
Are you denying that the Biden campaign paid influencers as part of it's get out the vote campaign, that TS pushes Democrat propaganda talking points and that it is impossible to see these as the same? It's not like Leftists and the media lie.
She's a celebrity with massive influence with an ill informed nd largely non-voting segment of the electorate so of course Democrats wouldn't reach out to her.
It;s the stuff about her being a CIA black op that's daft as a brush, though I've no idea what Demoratic propaganda TS is supposed to have pushed.
The country is indeed in a sorry state, largely because the major media have all been turned into Pravda by the deep state, pursuant to an Obama executive order that authorized taxpayer-funded propaganda, an obvious First Amendment violation.
"Misinformation" and "conspiracy theories" have become mere boilerplate synonyms for any published truth that contradicts official Pravda.
If you want to know what is really going on, start by burning your TV.
Play with the words in the poll question to get almost any answer your want
Is it possible that NASA faked the moon landing?
Yes its possible, though extremely unlikely
Is it possible that Taylor Swift is a plant to help Biden win in 2024
Yes its possible though extremely unlikely.
did the FBI facilatate in Jan 6 insurrection or encourage the insurrection.
Yes its possible though extremely unlikely
Even though all three are extremely unlikely, there is still a possibility however tiny, so the answer to the poll question would be yes.
In other words - dont get fooled by polls, especially agenda driving polls.
You seem to assume so many people aren’t this stupid. Have you not seen a Trump rally before?
Have you not seen a Biden rally? Oh wait there aren't any.
You know who else held rallies?
What a ridiculous point you're making, and it deserves a ridiculous point in response.
They didn't ask whether it was possible. The question was
Stop confusing them by giving the actual facts.
Remove the "covert" and the answer is almost certainly yes. It would be obvious for the Democratic party to be coordinating their Hollywood supporters. She's not publicly on the DNC's payroll, so even the "covert" isn't technically wrong.
The question as-written isn't crazy. It doesn't use the term "subversive" or "conspiracy". It's a very likely set of situations that wealthy and powerful people are talking to other wealthy and powerful people.
Naw, dude. You're finely parsing to remove all meaning. It's a shitty defense of what when taken as a whole is absolutely a conspiracy theory.
You're straining to reinterpret it as something very boring. No one, not even you, actually think that's what the question says.
No. You are inserting meaning where there is none. You are asking people if something happens and then applying it to a completely different circumstance. It's a bait and switch, pretending that answers to neutral questions are support for absurd beliefs.
But the question actually was:
Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the presidential election actually exists, or not?
That's not the same as your version.
I think it's a lot more likely that 18% of Americans enjoy twisting the tails of hack pollsters by making up stupid answers to stupid questions (including "what political party are you").
Before "refuting the Swift-Kelce conspiracy theory", maybe you should spend a few minutes confirming that such a thing actually exists.
I don't.
Trumpists believe some amazing things. Pedophile rings?
So Epstein didn't exist on your planet?
He's referencing Pizzagate. Or QAnon. Or any of a dozen other insane right-wing conspiracies that enjoy way-too-large acceptance numbers among Republicans.
Right-wingers always fold pedophile rings into their conspiracy-du-jour. They can't help themselves. They're doing the blind-squirrel-and-a-nut thing.
When they finally got the Epstein nut, they were completely blindsided by the deep ties between Epstein and Trump and have been desperately trying to make people believe that the guy who intentionally walked into the Miss Teen USA dressing rooms to see naked teenagers isn't a pedophile, but his opponent is.
News flash: there are not vast government conspiracies trying to make Ttump look bad or lose another election. He does that quite effectively all by himself.
Trump booted Epstein when he realized what he was...
No, he didn't. And he had a history of skeevy behavior with underage girls all by himself. He literally bragged about going into the dressing rooms to see naked underage beauty pagent contestents. No Epstein required.
Your revisionist history proves my point.
And you know this based on what, again? The same hack pollsters who are unable to (and usually uninterested in) confirming the validity of their polls?
Proof that smart people will believe dumb, fundamentally unserious polls that confirm their biases.
You could have just looked at QAnon for the same proof.
Careful of reading too much into fringe theories and imagining them being bigger than they are, or opinions held by more than really do. For you to have spent so many words on this is regrettable. “There’s a theory that some people have a theory”, stories are almost always a waste of time to read, write, or pay attention to.
“Overall, it appears left-wingers and right-wingers are about equally susceptible to conspiracy-mongering.”
No.
After all the Trump conspiracy mongering I give the edge to left wingers.
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What percentage of Democrats still think Russians gave the 2016 election to Trump?
Uh The general idea that TS is working with Dems is not a 'conspiracy theory'
Taylor Swift is a big time Democratic supporting celebrity. This is not even something anyone denies. She hobnobs with tons of officials and leftwing politicians, for example she was talking with Roger Goodell at the superbowl. She’s been involved with fundraisers with Dem politicians. Its hardly a ‘conspiracy theory’ to think she might be planning some activities in coordination with Democratic activists.
As for the rest of the rant it just looks like blathering to make the general idea seem absurd.
Amos, read the fucking question that was asked:
Do you think that a covert government effort for Taylor Swift to help Joe Biden win the presidential election actually exists, or not?
The kind of public activities you are talking about are not "a covert government effort."
Unlike Ilya, the MSM, and you apparently. I think TS coordinating an activity with a Dem politician through email and not an open announcement is a fairly plausible scenario and does not qualify as an ‘unhinged conspiracy theory’ on par with believing little green men from Mars are abducting and replacing people with evil clones.
Communicating about the campaign with a Dem politician wouldn’t be a “government effort” at all.
Maybe a bunch of government officials and employees working together devoting an inordinate amount of time using resources some would argue belong to the government isn't a 'government effort' by some definitions but at that point you're splitting hairs.
Now you’re back into conspiracy-land.
So your theory is that a bunch of government officials and employees are involved in a non-public operation to coordinate Taylor Swift's support of Biden.
But a "conspiracy theory"? No siree you're not one of those crazies.
To many people, the acts of politicians, the political parties, and the government itself are all part and parcel. At this point you are debating fine definitions. In fact, that distinction is likely the primary difference between the "Yes" and "No" answers.
'I think TS coordinating an activity'
What activity?
So the Biden campaign and other donors is publicizing their contact with her?
Swift is not stupid, and she is well aware of what happened to the Dixie Chicks when they attacked Bush '43.
Much of her fan base is more conservative than she, and what she is trying to do is support Biden without imploding, and what Trump is doing is trying to point out to her fan base what she is doing. While none of this is a conspiracy, both sides are playing games.
Much of her fan base is more conservative than she
So then the GOP has nothing to worry about.
“We don’t have Taylor Swift on our side, but you know who we have?” Posobiec said. “We have Kid Rock. We have Ted Nugent. We have influencers. We have all these people ― Jon Voight.”
What ignorance.
Don't they know it's overt effort, not a covert effort?
Man, you guys are always confusing ignorance for mistrust. It's painful to watch.
Mistrust is the disease. Ignorance is the resulting handicap.
Why are Jews always complaining about conspiracy theories that goys stupidly believe? I think that there was a chapter in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion that they would discredit truthers by labeling everything a conspiracy theory.
How do these leftists keep finding their way to the Conspiracy?
Among those who pushed this conspiracy theory was this Twit in response to the Chiefs coming back from behind to win the Super Bowl: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1756888470599967000
It’s a joke at the expense of some incredibly stupid people.
Such silly conspiracy theories. Like believing that COVID leaked from a Chinese lab in Wuhan.
Crazy talk, surely....
Next you're going to tell me that the Holocaust was real. And as we all know from our UN-approved Hamas schooling, that never happened.
Exactly....
Appeal to incredulity doesn't work when the rest of us know that you're a treasonous moron.
Here's a new message from your comrade:
https://www.politico.eu/article/biden-would-be-a-better-president-than-trump-says-putin/
Once again, Ilya shows his rabid TDS -- and poor timing.
It is now coming out that the FBI's raid on Mira Lago was to protect the CIA and foreign intelligence agencies. That Trump had declassified all of their corrupt activities and THAT is what the FBI wanted. https://nypost.com/2024/02/13/news/cia-and-foreign-intelligence-agencies-illegally-targeted-26-trump-associates-before-2016-russia-collusion-claims-report/
Did they plant stuff in the process -- I'd be surprised if they didn't and it should be mentioned that while they ordered the CCTV surveillance system to be turned off, it appears that the local folk didn't quite know how to do it and there is a distant recording of their activities.
So yes, I'm willing to believe most anything these corrupt schmucks are accused of having done. Most anything.
Look at the crap that they impeached him for....
I am inclined to think that much of this conspiracy thinking - yours and those mentioned - is a form of projection, that if you were in a position to do crap like that, you would, so why wouldn't the Democrats?
Honestly, I wanted to believe that the CIA wouldn't do crap like this, that it honored it's "no domestic" mandate and the rest.
But I am also not blind and have seen too much over the past few years. And no, I wouldn't do it but that doesn't mean that I don't recognize what is being done.
I thought you were just waiting for permission to crush protestors on public roads with a double winged snowplow. Why so timid?
*I* am under no "no domestic" mandate.
And it's dismember, not crush -- I don't think you know how much snow weighs...
You didn’t specify wintertime in your murder fantasy…
But I’m glad it grows ever more florid for you
The report by independent journalists Shellenberger, Matt Taibbi and Alex Gutentag has not been confirmed by The Post.
This is why you can never mute Ed.
He's absolutely the *worst* person to talk about how the right isn't steeped in conspiracy theories, but he's gotta jump into the fray anyhow!
Florida never comes up in the article. And Trump not leaking his being targeted by the CIA immediately makes no sense.
You can't fake this kind of crazy; there is only one place to go for it!
Yes, we are occasionally blessed with his sometimes amusing hallucinations, not so much when he accesses his inner Timothy McVeigh.
Maine is a cold, dark place this time of year.
God, this is FUN!!! Go Taylor Swift!!! Just let Kelce down easy, though, when the time comes…
Can we hotwire her vibrator?
What does this even mean
It's an old Robin Williams joke.
I think someone's sarcasm meter needs recalibration.
Much more likely that people responded to a stupid poll question as if it were a stupid poll question. Actions speak louder than words.
More interesting is how many statists demonstrate by actual actions that they still believe government is competent and useful.
Read the comments here. They are anecdotal, but they do poke some holes in the 'The GOP Is full of normal people, who just like to mock pollsters by appearing to be conspiracists!'
You put a lot of credence in the comments which back up your preconceived notions. A shame you aren't more consistent.
I said they were anecdotal. But you sure are working hard to pretend Ed and Amos and Armchair are not going bananas right above you.
What’s it like knowing that your espoused ideology is completely shot vis-a-vis your preferred colour team’s own voting base, let alone across the USA, let alone across the West?
So, too, for your Blue team. Young, educated people cannot believe its BS anymore.
Soon, many more will come to see the colour team disputes as being a form of theatre.
Will you continue to try to gaslight till the bitter end?
Why don’t you just go back to Russia?
Also there’s the fact that members of the truly batshit right-wing online universe get propelled to significant political power extremely quickly. Five years ago Marjorie Taylor Green was endorsing posts about Frazzledrip. Today she gets to be an impeachment manager.
Normal people wouldn’t let someone like that get anywhere near political office let alone a high prestige position. And yet that’s GOP politics today.
I’m really curious how the Senate is going to play it. I think it’s still most likely a simple dismissal as “too stupid to think about.” But I’m sure they’re at least tempted to let the Republicans make total idiots of themselves for an extended period of time.
The problem with positing that Republicans and Democrats are about equally subject to conspiracy-mongering is that it's not true. What conspiracy do 20-30% of us Democrats believe in? What larger percentage of Democrats believe in a conspiracy like the larger percentage of Republicans believe the 2020 election was stolen from Trump?
Can you say "Russia Collusion"?
Are you saying we shouldn't believe the Muller report?
Or the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee.
To the extent it is a conspiracy theory and not something that professional intelligence staff working for Republicans detailed in not one, but two, extensive reports, it’s still much less delusional and psychotic than things the online right and right wing politicians come up with.
1. A global power’s intelligence agency seeks to influence another country’s election to promote its interests. The unconventional campaign of a political outsider and known in that country knowingly accepts the help. Then that outsider, who is also known for lying, lies about it.
2. A mega-successful popstar dates a football star after having a very successful tour. She goes to some football games and is filmed there because she is famous. Her life is actually some kind of campaign operation to influence an upcoming election.
The first is plausible. The second is just the dumbest shit imagined by people who can’t comprehend the idea that even very famous people have normal habits: they meet because they’re in pretty tight circles, they go to each other’s stuff because they have money, sometimes they date.
Black people believe the Moon landing was faked. And OJ was innocent. It is racist to accuse people of believing in conspiracy theories.
Many, if not most, Blue Teamers believe that socioeconomic disparities amongst groups are WHOLLY a function of past inequities and white supremacism.
That's an anti-scientific, anti-empirical, conspiracy theory.
The reason so many myths are believable is because the truth is stranger than most myths.
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1757544504951714198
If there's anything more pathetic than the believers of this ridiculous conspiracy theory, it's tagging Taylor Swift to flog your book. Take out all the usual "both sides are bad" blather and this is just another collection of links to himself.
You know, this is not the sort of political ignorance Ilya usually talks about. That refers to lack of knowledge about policy issues, government functioning, and other such matters.
This is just about lunacy and gullibility.
It’s irrational ignorance, if you will.
And I will!
Taking note of the author, I will forgo a carefully crafted reply, and just point out that polls haven't been reliable since 2016.
The relationship just seems like a marketing shtick by the NFL to boost female viewership.
At this moment in history, I think right-wing political ignorance and bias are greater menaces than that on the other side of the political spectrum. Over the last few years, lies and disinformation spread by Trump and his supporters—particularly the Big Lie—have had more impact than their left-wing counterparts. Ah yes, that right-wing ignorance and the “Big Lie”. I’m sure it did more damage than Obama’s “You Can Keep It” Lie Of The Year (2012), the Russia Russia Collusion Hoax, or the infamous yet non-existent “Pee Tape”, the “Good People On Both Sides” Lie, the “Trump Bleach” Lie, and now the latest re-newed lie, the “Trump Wants To Destroy NATO”… just to name a few.
As for the “Big Lie”, let’s analyze the different layers of truth behind the claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen: 1. There are no legitimate elections in the USA. That much is true if we measure legitimacy by Western European standards, or even by the standards of all other democracies. (Basic stuff like photo ID requirement, in-person voting only, same-day counting, etc…) 2. The 2020 election was even less legitimate than any previous election, all thanks to the mail-in-ballot scheme. (A method widely considered to be a fraud-magnet, such was confirmed by the Carter-Baker Commission back.) 3. Even if all US states would have Swiss-tier election security measures it would still be disingenuous to ostracize one party (Trump), while NOT ostracizing the other (Gore, H. Clinton, S. Abrams) for the exact same thing. That’s just the short recap, of course we could delve into the various different unconstitutional and illegal last minute rules changes in certain states or into the fact that electronic machines should never have been allowed to replace good old hand-counting (strange that in a world where bank’s are hacked on the regular we should have absolute trust in a private company’s secret code… not that it matters, since recounts and machines weren’t part of the plan, as it is absolutely unnecessary to involve them… much of the work was done by ballot harvesters, a practice banned in every single functioning democracy… but not in the US.) So, here’s my challenge. If indeed the Dems aren’t cheaters then they should request all states to institute a largely uniform revamp of their election rules. It should involve a dynamic and automated voter registry system, the issuing of voter photo ID cards, as well as common sense limitations such as same-day voting (in-person) and same-day counting. Every single democratic country can do all that, Israel did multiple rounds of elections in the middle of a pandemic and now they’re doing elections in the middle of a war zone (paper ballots, hand-counting, same-day results, y’know all the normal stuff). They should be able to do that, in theory… but I guess they love their “popular vote” trophy more than they love honor.
"If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance" referred to grandfathering in existing plans; it was badly phrased and incorrect, since the company offering your insurance can always discontinue it. (Companies did that, because they wanted ACA subsidies and did not want to market both exchange and non-exchange plans.)
Russian interference in the 2016 election was well documented, including by Republicans; it's why Trump did so much obstruction of justice, even if Mueller couldn't prosecute it.
"Good people on both sides" was exactly what it said on the label; anybody on the right wing side who stayed in the company of neo-Nazis all the way through the murder of a demonstrator was not "good people".
Trump did suggest putting disinfectants inside the body to fight COVID.
Trump has invited Russia to invade allies who don't pay as much as Trump would like; as with Zelensky, he'd probably settle for a sham investigation of opposing candidates or maybe a lucrative building deal.
But none of those truths resulted in the attempted coup and violence that the Big Lie did.
Ilya can hardly contain his contempt for ordinary red blooded White Americans.
Yes, that explains most of his political positions.
If Taylor ran for president, she would probably win and would make a better president than the mainstream candidates. This is a sad commentary or what our political system has become.
Does this really warrant an entire article? Of course she's part of a conspiracy. It's called politics, and she's free to advocate for the candidate of her choice. She may even collaborate with others ahead of time, including a candidate's campaign.
It would probably reduce her "carbon footprint™."
Every day we are exposed to folks like Ilya who reside in the alternative universe of CNN and the BBC. It is all but impossible to penetrate the shields they have raised against logic, facts, and reason. It must be reassuring to live inside the Matrix, but it sure is hard to imagine how it could be rewarding on a cultural, spiritual, or intellectual level.
Tips on reason and the reality-based world from a gullible, superstitious, fairy tale-embracing, nonsense-spouting clinger are always a treat.
This explains a lot. As someone who doesn't really follow sports or entertainment news I've been a bit bemused to see Swift and whatshisname on the front page of everything, every day. CNN even announced the Superbowl winner with a headline starting with, "Taylor Swift Jumps for Joy." I had no idea she had political views at all.
I do wonder if this wall-to-wall coverage is going to end like that of Princess Diana.
Well, it does seem to be a conspiracy.
It just doesn’t seem to be very covert.
And what’s the problem? It’s not like all conspiracies are unlawful.
I mean, it’s a pretty good bet Biden and his campaign staff are covertly conspiring to win the election. They are certainly acting in harmony if not downright sharing some breath. And they have probably made campaign plans and such together that they don’t want the Republicans to see and are keeping close to their chests. Sure meets the definition. So what?
Yes. It's not covert. It's not hidden at all. They are taking fairly transparent and above board politicking, and then pretending people are crazy conspiracy theories when they notice it.
Heh, conservatives still mad that the 'Taylor Swift secretly posts on 4chan' thing was probably never true and that and her political silence meant she supported the far right.
They were huge fans when they thought that stuff was true. Turns out a screen shot of her kitten being named Miranda isn't the rock solid proof 4chan is famous for LOL.
But then, we're also talking about people so dumb they think QAnon is anti-pedo when the shit started on the site that broke away from 4chan because they were mad 4chan banned pics of little kids in skimpy clothes. Conservatives and projection, no duo is more tightly bound.
Ummm. No. I never heard any of that.
There was some people in her initial country fanbase upset that she didn't support their political leanings, but this whole thing is news to the vast majority of conservatives.
I just assume everyone in the entertainment industry follows the politically expedient positions for personal gain. It makes everything far more predictable.
C'mon, that's as silly as the people who claimed that the Trump lawsuits were being coordinated with the White House somehow.
As if Fani Willis was meeting at the White House with DoJ people.
This is like the other week when he couldn't understand that the "Birds Aren't Real" movement was satire and thought it's proponents actually believed it (all evidence to the contrary).