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Did Google Just Defeat Every Geofence Warrant?
Code is law, they say.
I wrote last week about an oral argument in the Fourth Circuit involving geofence warrants. Geofence warrants are warrants to obtain the location data that Google users let Google collect if they opt in to Google's location history service, which about a third of Google users do. Geofence warrants have been possible because, if you opt in, Google keeps a copy of the location history. And records are kept can be compelled, at least if the legal process is valid.
All of which makes this Google announcement from yesterday of great interest. Google will no longer keep location history even for the users who opted in to have it turned on. Instead, the location history will only be kept on the user's phone.
The Timeline feature in Maps helps you remember places you've been and is powered by a setting called Location History. If you're among the subset of users who have chosen to turn Location History on (it's off by default), soon your Timeline will be saved right on your device — giving you even more control over your data. Just like before, you can delete all or part of your information at any time or disable the setting entirely.
If you're getting a new phone or are worried about losing your existing one, you can always choose to back up your data to the cloud so it doesn't get lost. We'll automatically encrypt your backed-up data so no one can read it, including Google.
Additionally, when you first turn on Location History, the auto-delete control will be set to three months by default, which means that any data older than that will be automatically deleted. Previously this option was set to 18 months. If you want to save memories to your Timeline for a longer period, don't worry — you can always choose to extend the period or turn off auto-delete controls altogether.
These changes will gradually roll out through the next year on Android and iOS, and you'll receive a notification when this update comes to your account.
Unless I'm missing something, this will entirely defeat geofence warrants— which, I would speculate, was probably the point of Google's policy change. If Google doesn't keep the records, Google will have no records to turn over. If the government comes to Google with a court order for geofence data, Google will just say, sorry, we don't keep that stuff anymore.
My very tentative sense, from a public policy standpoint, is that this seems like a bit of a bummer. Geofencing was being used to solve some really serious crimes—like murders, rape, and armed robberies—when there were no known suspects or leads and the case had gone cold. Having governments be able, with sufficient cause, to go to a court, get a court order, and then obtain potentially responsive location records that could provide a lead to investigate was, on the whole, a good thing.
Of course, that public interest has to be balanced with the public interest in privacy. But my sense is that geofence warrants have been implemented (and could be implemented in the future) in ways that provide far greater privacy protection than normally exist with warrants. Every technique raises risks of abuse. But if you had to look at all the pluses and minuses of different techniques, a court order regime to access geofence records had more pluses and fewer minuses than those records not existing.
It will be interesting to see if we learn why Google made this change. Google is a private company. It has to answer to its shareholders, not to the public interest. And it's totally plausible that this was just a sensible business decision. If Google can provide location history for those who want it without keeping the records, Google presumably benefits by not having to deal with the privacy headaches of responding to geofence warrants.
If this is what drove Google' decision, it's an example of a less-appreciated way that the market regulates privacy. If you're providing a data service, responding to court orders for user data is not part of your business model. It's a costly hassle. And it can only lead to bad press. So you might look for ways to avoid keeping records, as records never kept are records that cannot be turned over.
As always, stay tuned.
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I worked for a large tech company which deleted all email from corporate servers after I think 90 days. If we wanted to save email we had to copy it to our laptops, which would not respond to subpoenas the same way corporate email servers would.
Location information seems too valuable to profiling purposes for Google to delete it entirely. I wonder if it will live on in a less conveniently subpoenad form, or stripped of precise timestamps. Google wants to know if I ever window shopped at a sporting goods store. It is less important to Google to know whether I was at the Capitol on January 6 as opposed to December 6 or February 6.
Google is creepy. My wife and I once ate a restaurant. I did not use any search function or GPS function to get there -- I knew the restaurant from before, and we wanted to eat there.
About 20 minutes after we left, I get a message from Google asking me how I liked the restaurant.
Yeah, Google defaults a lot of anti-privacy settings to give them access to your data. You can turn that kind of thing off, and disabling Location History has been a big part of that. I hope this doesn't mean that they now have ways to send even more advertising to people without this data going to Google's cloud.
I am less worried about the public policy impacts of this than Prof. Kerr is. Rather than sending a geofence warrant to Google and Apple, police will have to send geofence warrants to Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile, plus maybe MVNOs (especially for 5G). A phone will still leave location data when it's turned on near a crime scene.
Google’s data is significantly more accurate, which makes it both more useful for investigators (since it more precisely pinpoints the user’s location) and more privacy-protecting (since it captures fewer people’s information).
I worked for a municipal government that routinely deleted emails few months, although we were instucted archive data that could be subject to legitimate public records requests, such as hiring related, permitting etc.
I suspect his was to defeat blanket FOIA requests of people goofing off, sending inappropriate jokes via emails, conducting personal business while on the clock. That sort of thing happens everywhere but private corps don't have to worry about having to provide that data o shareholders the way public entities are beholden to taxpayers.
I know that memory is way cheaper than it used to be, but any resource is finite and I wonder if it is cheaper to abstract the data -- e.g. that you were in the bookstore in DC's Union Station for 45 minutes but not when because that costs more to store.
Remember that Y2K was caused by not storing the "19" on dates because it was cheaper not to.
OTOH, maybe Google is afraid that EVERYONE will turn it off -- and use duckduckgo, etc...
"Remember that Y2K was caused by not storing the “19” on dates because it was cheaper not to."
That was when you needed to be creative to fit everything on an 80 byte Hollerith card (BT,DT). Nowadays, google is not storage constrained.
(and 'take the battery out of your cell phone' .... how old is your phone?)
Replying to Grandpa "I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time" Ed, Absaroka asked:
How old is Ed, and his corresponding knowledge of technology?
It's certainly not an iPhone. I'd give even odds between a Motorola flip phone and a Nokia 3310 brick.
I, personally, see no reason to believe Google at all. They will keep the data to provide to advertisers while claiming they do not have it for law enforcement. So, a partial win for privacy....but only a partial one.
If I were Google, I certainly wouldn't want to waste time responding to tens of thousands of geofencing warrants per year.
ding ding I think we have a winner here....
If it's costing Teh Googs a lot more to comply than the value of keeping the data, toss the data.
And note that that value is not just the dollar compliance cost, but also reputational from the user side. This lets The Big G tell users "trust us, we're not going to roll for the gubmint". The aggregate value of that is huge.
And, in an attempt to be even-handed ... I think that the "we're not keeping the data anymore" will appeal to people completely across the political spectrum. I suspect neither Ammon Bundy nor Patrisse Cullors wants to be tracked by Googlerama.
I can't see too much of a downside.
I'm sure pretty sure geofencing is one of the ways they identified Jan. 6th protesters. Perhaps if they had only used geofencing to identify the specific individuals responsible for murders,.rapes, and armed robberies it might still be available.
But the fact it can be used to identify political opponents at demonstrations, or riots, means that it will be. And I shouldn't be.
Same with the 702 process. If its that important, they shouldn't have routinely abused it. If it's a crucial high value tool, then act like it.
At this point, who doesn't know that you take the battery OUT of your cell phone unless you want a record of where you were....
Interesting SCOTUS cert decision today re Jan 6th...
Doesn’t work with a lot of phones - notably, in my case, my iPhone. This also means that if your phone gets wet, you can’t remove the battery before the phone shorts out (I have saved my wife’s flip phone this way a couple times).
People born in the last 60 years or so, who know that the vast majority of cell phones on the market don't have removable batteries?
Of course, you can just turn the phone off, which works fine if you haven't been specifically targeted in advance. Or use a Faraday bag. Or leave the phone home.
"My very tentative sense, from a public policy standpoint, is that this seems like a bit of a bummer. Geofencing was being used to solve some really serious crimes—like murders, rape, and armed robberies—when there were no known suspects or leads and the case had gone cold. Having governments be able, with sufficient cause, to go to a court, get a court order, and then obtain potentially responsive location records that could provide a lead to investigate was, on the whole, a good thing."
I identify as a 'law and order libertarian'. i.e. I want few laws, but I want the ones we have vigorously enforced. We lived much of our life in high crime areas - we were burgled multiple times, had a car stolen, and so on. So I'm all on board with catching crooks.
That said, I'm not too sympathetic to law enforcement saying 'it's essential that we need this new capability (cell phone records, GPS tracking, license plate readers, ...) to combat crime. This country has been able to deal with crime using the old, inefficient, shoe leather types of policing. What seems to be different today is not that we can't catch crooks, but that we give overly lenient sentences to the ones we convict, especially the repeat offenders and most violent ones.
Abroska ponders:
If you want to punish "real crimes" with a degree of certainty, as you claim, maybe don't be too quick to denigrate advances in technology and the impact they can have on identifying and convicting the correct perp.
Consider forensic DNA and the conviction of serial killers like the Golden State Killer. Does your suspicion of techniques more modern than "shoe leather" extend to serial killers?
Forensic DNA can identify and convict multiple murderers that never, ever, for frackin' forever would have been convicted by "inefficient shoe leather policing".
I mean, there are probably some police departments back in the "good'ol days" that would have arrested, railroaded, convicted, and maybe executed the wrong person (especially if the accused was poor and/or non-white). But that's not a "win" for shoe leather modalities of law enforcement.
Absaroka - apologies for typo on your name, EDIT FUNCTION STILL BROKEN, FFS REASON GET THIS SHEET FIXED, um, ahem.
Those are all good points. There are tradeoffs.
Let me go all tinfoil hat for a bit: imagine you are committing a crime - in your case, you are harboring Anne Frank in your attic[1]. The (future, evil) government really wants to find criminals like you.
Now, think about the proposal to eliminate cash as a method of payment. After all, most of the criminal economy works off cash. Having cash lets lawn service guys take cash and not report the income, lets wait staff under report tips, and lets drug dealers get paid.
You and your spouse are two people, but you have a family of four hidden in your attic, so you need to buy groceries for six. In a cash economy, no problem - you just make some extra trips to different stores, careful to not buy too much in any one store, and to pull into the garage so your nosy neighbors don't notice how many bags you are bringing in.
Now think about a cashless society. It's a pretty easy big data query to look for households that are bringing in way more groceries than they could eat - off to the camps you go.
And that's the rub; if you build a society where 100% of the criminals can be easily caught, you better really, really, really hope you never get an evil government. I realize that many people assume that a bad government can never come to America, although if you do think that you might think hard about the upcoming election, just sayin'. I'm kind of in the long view camp; if you wait long enough, bad things will happen even in America.
OTOH, most criminals aren't one time offenders. Some are, to be sure, but the vast majority of burglars, bank robbers and what have you do it more than once. You can afford some inefficiency in catching them if you aren't overly lenient in sentencing the ones you do convict.
[1]credit to a blogger whose name I can't remember, who calls this the 'Jews in the attic test'.
You don't have to go that far -- back when Marijuana was illegal, the State of Maine was monitoring electric bills in an attempt to catch indoor growing operations.
The problem was that a lot of fishermen have two homes -- a summer one on an offshore island near the fishing grounds and a winter one inshore -- so when they came ashore in September (for children's school) or November (because of the weather) their electric bills would go from just the refrigerator to all kinds of lights and hot water heaters and such.
I don't know all the details but it didn't work out well -- and this was in the midst of another clusterfuck and heard that all the cops involved wound up doing "trucks" (i.e. CDL enforcement). But Central Maine Power gave the State Police all the data....
Having governments be able, with sufficient cause, to go to a court, get a court order, and then obtain potentially responsive location records that could provide a lead to investigate was, on the whole, a good thing.
Isn't that the issue...sufficient cause?
Here is my question...Could the government compel google to 'roll back' this change and keep collecting those location records? How do you argue that?
I get it, you can't subpoena what doesn't exist. But if the record type did exist, and GOOG took active steps to make the record type go away, to thwart law enforcement, it seems to me the government might not like that.
Commenter_XY observed:
I'm sure gov't doesn't "like" not having access to $BIGBROTHER data.
But the framing matters. Is The Goog "taking active steps to make the record type go away" (emphasis added) ...
Or just deciding that the cost and expense (technical, social, and legal) associated with affirmatively storing geolocation data is no longer worth the expenses to the company? Business judgment rule, anyone?
I don't accept that having done something for a while for whatever reasons seemed good at the time, The Big G is permanently required to get gov't approval to store less data on their customers. Hello, one-way ratchet to authoritarianism!
" the government might not like that"
+1 to Zarniwoop's comment.
There are a lot of things the government doesn't like - strong encryption, for example. Having to get warrants. Miranda warnings. Tough beans.
How could you possibly object to something which benefits the individual but that the goverrnment doesn't like? It seems to me to be a win-win situation!
Can anyone point me toward a blog that might offer a libertarian perspective?
Thank you.
https://reason.com/volokh/2021/10/25/never-took-that-libertarian-loyalty-oath/
What's wrong with seeking a libertarian perspective?
Maybe one associated with a blog that doesn't cultivate bigots as an audience or publish racial slurs weekly.
> wahh this blog uses naughty letter combinations
You're literally commenting under a post where the author says "it's a shame Google won't be tracking your location history on behalf of the government" and still somehow come across as the bigger bitch. Congrats, I guess.
Why so cranky? Because I noted that the "often libertarian" (with no mention of their conservatism, of course) label these guys claim is laughable bullshit?
The never soft bigotry of the Rev. Everyone viewed through The Lens of Resentment.
That's some fun context for me about the libertarian thing, though. So not just wasted on Arthur.
History's a bitch, eh Arthur?
History: disingenuous, defensive clingers calling themselves “libertarian” (or “often libertarian,” “libertarianish,” etc.) without even mentioning “conservative,” “right-wing,” “Republican,” “clinger,” etc.
History: a right-wing blog that has cultivated a following of racists, gay-bashers, Islamophobes, white nationalists, immigrant-haters, misogynists, antisemites, transphobes, white supremacists, and other bigots, including by publishing vile racial slurs weekly
History: a bunch of right-wingers peddling Stewart Baker-style authoritarianism while masquerading as libertarians, parading about in garish, unconvincing libertarian drag
History: You can't stop commenting on this blog you profess to hate. You are either lying, deeply mentally ill, or the world's dullest troll.
The Volokh Conspirators and its fans can't stop commenting about a world -- modern America -- they hate.
They can't stop themselves from expressing bigoted sentiments even after sustaining real-world repercussions.
They can't stop publishing vile racial slurs.
What is wrong with these losers?
They're anarchists (Libertarian by its real name)
Hmmm...
Major kudos to Google! Hopefully other companies will follow suit!
I think the difference is the type of warrant required. Can the police just request the phones near a crime scene, or ask if a specific person was there - probably requiring some justification for issuing the warrant. In short, they can’t engage in fishing expeditions.
I am with a poster above who pointed at the 1/6 investigation, where the FBI just requested the phone numbers and geolocations of everyone who was near the capital that day, and went from there. And, of course, your views on the legitimacy of that investigation colors whether or not you think that that sort of fishing expedition is justified.
"My very tentative sense, from a public policy standpoint, is that this seems like a bit of a bummer. Geofencing was being used to solve some really serious crimes—like murders, rape, and armed robberies—when there were no known suspects or leads and the case had gone cold. Having governments be able, with sufficient cause, to go to a court, get a court order, and then obtain potentially responsive location records that could provide a lead to investigate was, on the whole, a good thing."
I think you're being much too optimistic and glib here.
--That you were present near a crime will be used as evidence that you committed the crime, even if you didn't. This is one reason why literally every lawyer I've ever spoken to says 'don't talk to the police' - anything you say that puts you anywhere near the crime could get you promoted to suspect.
--The non-universality only exacerbates this problem. Only 1/3 of people turn it on, which means 2/3 of people aren't showing up in the data. But the police only get the data that exists, which means they're going to be focused on the 1/3 of people who did, even if they're all innocent. (Your own scenarios involve crimes that the police are otherwise stumped on - so they're fishing for leads here, which means they're likely to assume one of the people in the data they got is the culprit). Yet the culprit is more likely to *not* be in the data. (Criminals certainly aren't *more* likely to turn on location tracking).
--And of course, this is the very definition of a fishing expedition, something the police aren't supposed to do.
And that's not even getting into the potential to misuse the data for purposes not related to solving a crime in the first place.
Good !
Point of order is needed:
Either there is freedom of movement and an acknowledged Right to be left alone / Privacy
OR
It's your location is always being monitored 24/7/365.
Personally, screw national security, but rather encourage integrity of the Republic. An ability to monitor and solve crime is secondary as it's well know the modern notion of policing is to let crime happen so kudos are shoveled out rather than preventing crime in the first place. As is apparent today, prevention seems to secondary - better to allow crime so that one earns brownie points. It's a modern sickness and a perversion of the reason for having government. Moral decay is trying to alter civility.
Name one tool given to law enforcement for the purposes of solving only very serious crimes that they didn't go on to abuse the hell out of. The current restraint with geofence warrants will not last, and it's either naive or dishonest to claim otherwise. Location data presents an especially grave threat to liberty when abused, I can't even imagine the flippant disregard for the harm of abuse that goes into an argument that these are a good thing on the balance between authoritarian overreach and civil liberties. Of course, when you start out from silly arguments about choosing to use a service means you've surrendered your right to privacy...
Thanks for the authoritarian perspective.
When both libertarians and progressives can agree something is bad, you can bet the people who like it place just about zero value on civil liberties.
"You can bet the people who like it place just about zero value on civil liberties."
I don't think that's fair with respect to Orin Kerr. Cell phone location data is used to solve serious crimes, for example the University of Idaho multiple murder that was in the news a year ago. Everyone (except the perp) wants those kind of crimes solved. There are serious tradeoffs in play here.
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DNA comes to mind. What technologies are you thinking of?
Wiretaps are sometimes restricted to enumerated crimes. Search warrants, on the other hand, can be used to tear down a house looking for a scrap of a receipt that shows you stole a penny.
On tearing down houses: The Boston Globe kept track of a suspect who knew about the theft of art from the Gardner Museum. One of the articles told how the FBI got a search warrant as an excuse to knock holes in his walls. They can search anywhere anything listed in the warrant might fit, including inside walls. The article implied they did not expect to find anything inside the wall. The search was a message, we're going to do this to you for the rest of your life until you tell us what we want to know.
Well maybe Orrin would like to have some form of a locating chip imstalled in everyone at birth. Then we could solve even more crimes with just a little less freedom. Dystopian? You bet!
I sense you have mistaken Prof. Kerr -- a conservative but nevertheless reasonable and less bigoted than the average Volokh Conspirator -- for Stewart Baker, the reflexive authoritarian who adores government surveillance (except perhaps when it precipitates accountability for bigots, insurrectionists, and other culture war casualties).
I wonder what the gummit of China is going to do about this.
Perhaps someone could explain this to me. According to https://appuals.com/what-is-google-location-history-stop-it-or-use-it/ if you enable location services
"Google will be able to store and save the locations you’ve visited, serve their purpose of showing targeted ads and helps you find out where you were, when you were drunk and also help you track your phone if it’s lost and the phone is turned on."
Now, how are they going to accomplish any of that - especially the last part which seems to me to be the only useful feature - if the location data is only on the phone?
Seems like they basically bricked this service. Do I have this wrong?
I wondered about that as well. If you look at the "Find, secure, or erase your device remotely" section you see:
"2. Sign in to your Google Account.
...
3. The lost device gets a notification."
So (and to be clear, I'm just spitballing) I'm not sure that 'Find Lost Device" means 'tell me the last known location for a non functional device'. It's maybe more 'ping the device and tell me it's current location'.
For some of the other services, Google is big on distributing filesystems across multiple physical locations. Perhaps the new scheme is just to make your phone one of the nodes of google's global file service. That would make google physically able to access the data, but might still let them dodge a subpoena?
That would be a question for the resident lawyers - if my neighbor gives me a key to their house, can I be served with a subpoena that tells me to go next door, get stuff out of the file cabinet, and turn it over to law enforcement?
Obviously I'm over my head here on both the technical and legal details - hopefully more knowledgeable people can chime in.
I agree with your conclusion that in many ways this is unfortunate from a policy perspective. At the same time, I think it's reasonable that we don't want whether or not you sign up to a helpful service to make such a huge difference in your exposure to legal risk. We really need these kind of major shifts in how the government relates to citizens to be the result of democratic deliberation (eg should tech companies be asked to keep these records).
The problem with this is that the role of privacy in the law has always been to create a gap between what the government could say was illegal and what it could effectively prosecute. As such it's very difficult to use public discussion to reach a reasonable policy solution.
This reminds of of mullvad's decision to not have any user data or logs stored on their servers, to the point where they operate mostly without hard drives. Once you get rid of hard drives, search warrants are (somewhat) impossible.
One fix might be allowing companies to charge for the work required to comply with warrants.
Given the Stasi-level 702 renewal going through Congress, how long until tech companies don't have a choice in retaining location data that traverses their networks?
Just as soon as they are legally declared to be essential public utilities.
Most geofencing analysis is done via cell tower analysis, not a web search platform.