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Schools Have No Constitutional Obligation to Try to Keep Students from Having Sex in the Parking Lot
"[T]he Does cannot wield the constitutional right to parent as a sword to require the district to adopt policies that help them to direct and control their son's choices," and likewise as to the right to free exercise of religion.
From Judge Jill Parish's opinion Wednesday in Doe v. Alpine School Dist.(D. Utah), which strikes me as quite correct:
John and Jane Doe are the parents of JD, a minor student who attended Skyridge High School. [I couldn't find his age or grade in the record. -EV] On May 25, 2022, Mrs. Doe arrived at the school and attempted to check JD out of school; however, the Skyridge office staff informed her that the students were not in their classrooms because it was the last week of school…. [Mrs. Doe] located her son in the school parking lot after contacting his girlfriend….
Skyridge's Resource Officer, Mr. Sweeten, told [the Does] that although the district calendar indicated that the last week of school would follow a normal schedule, Skyridge had an informal custom of releasing students after only two hours of class time and of not enforcing attendance during that week. Administrators stated that this unofficial policy was followed so that students could check in with teachers about their grades….
The Does are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and have raised their son under its doctrines and to follow its practices, one of which prohibits premarital sex. The Does had previously discovered that JD had begun having sex with his girlfriend and had placed restrictions on JD's activity to prevent him from having premarital sex thereafter, such as requiring him to be accompanied by other persons when he was with his girlfriend and requiring that JD travel to and from school with his older sibling. The Does learned that JD had had sex with his girlfriend in the parking lot next to the school during school hours three times during the final week of school.
The Does sued the school district and several administrators, alleging that their constitutional rights to parent their child and to free exercise of religion had been violated.
No, said the court:
The Does' parental rights claim fails because the defendants have not burdened their right to make decisions concerning the care or control of their son. The fundamental right to parent, for example, prevents a state from requiring parents to send their children to public school rather than a private religious school because such a law "unreasonably interferes with the liberty of parents and guardians to direct the upbringing and education of children under their control." A law requiring parents to send their children to school past the eighth grade also violates a parent's constitutional rights. Moreover, a state law affording visitation rights to grandparents "infringes on that fundamental parental right."
In this case, however, the Alpine School District has done nothing to limit the Does' choices regarding how to parent JD. The district did not prevent the Does from forbidding JD from engaging in premarital sex. Nor do they complain that the district required JD to attend a sex education class that undermined values that they sought to instill in their son.
Instead, the core of their complaint is that by affording students ample free time during the last week of classes, the Alpine School District did not do enough to aid their efforts as parents to prevent JD from having sex. But the Does cannot wield the constitutional right to parent as a sword to require the district to adopt policies that help them to direct and control their son's choices. The Does have not provided any authority supporting the proposition that the government has a constitutional duty to help them parent JD. Because the Alpine School District did not prevent the Does from making decisions regarding the upbringing of their son, it did not infringe their parental rights under the Fourteenth Amendment.
Even if the Does could articulate some burden on their right to parent, such a burden would not be sufficient to countermand the Alpine School District's authority to create general policies for the students in its care. As discussed above, the constitutional right to parent exists only "up to a point" and does not always permit parents to control their child's public education.
By attempting to force the school district to adopt policies affecting the entire student body in order to help them achieve their parenting objectives, the Does seek to impermissibly "oust" the district's authority. Even if the Does altered their demanded relief to impact only their child, a request to excuse JD from the schedule of the last week of school would amount to an exemption from the school program allowing students time to discuss grades with their teachers. As stated above, it is well established that parents do not have a constitutional right to control or exempt their children from specific school programs.
Finally, the Does argue that their parental rights were violated because the Alpine School District did not tell them about the attendance policy during the last week of school, depriving them of the opportunity to make decisions about how to parent JD in light of that information. In essence, the Does assert that the Fourteenth Amendment right to parent includes a right to receive notice of attendance policies. The Does, however, provided no caselaw to support their right-to-notice theory….
Likewise as to the Free Exercise Clause:
The Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment "prevent[s] the government from impermissibly burdening an individual's free exercise of religion." A plaintiff's free exercise of religion is burdened if "the challenged action is coercive or compulsory in nature." …
First, the school district did not coerce JD into acting against his religious beliefs. He freely chose to have premarital sex with his girlfriend, even though this was against the teachings of his religion.
Second, the Alpine School District did not coerce the Does to act contrary to their religious principles. The Does allege that they have a religious duty to encourage JD to abstain from premarital sex. The district did nothing to pressure or force the Does to refrain from passing on those teachings to her son.
The Does instead argue that the district's policies allowed JD a window of opportunity to have sex, thwarting their attempts to prevent him from doing so. In essence, the Does assert that the Alpine School District did not do enough to help them perform their religious obligations. But the Free Exercise Clause does not impose such a duty on government entities. "The Free Exercise Clause is written in terms of what the government cannot do to the individual, not in terms of what the individual can exact from the government." … [T]he district has no constitutional duty to modify its internal procedures to further the Does' religious goals. Because the Does have not alleged that the district coerced them to abandon a tenant of their religion, their Free Exercise Clause claim fails as a matter of law.
Even if the school's practice did burden the Does' religious practice, "a law that is neutral and of general applicability need not be justified by a compelling governmental interest even if the law has the incidental effect of burdening a particular religious practice." … The school custom of giving students unsupervised time after being released early from class during the last week of school applies equally to all students regardless of religion, and it was not created with the motivation of infringing on religious practices. Therefore, it is neutral and generally applicable, and the rational basis test applies. The custom is rationally related to a legitimate end: giving students time to work with teachers to help their grades. Therefore, the Does' free exercise argument would fail even if their exercise of religion were incidentally burdened….
The court expressed no opinion on the Does' state-law claims, which it sent back for state courts to consider.
I don't think it matters for purposes of these constitutional claims, but note that it would be hard to argue that the school's policy of giving high school students extra free time inadvertently fostered sexual abuse: Under Utah law it's apparently generally not a crime for high-school-age minors (to oversimplify slightly) to have sex with each other. (It may well be some sort of public indecency for anyone to have sex in a school parking lot, where people can see, but failure to prevent that wouldn't be a violation of the rights of the parents of the minors who were having sex.)
Bradley Blackham and Darin Goff of the Utah AG's office represent defendants.
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Decision seems right, but I'm sick of schools slacking off so hard the last week. Nothing else in life is like this.
"Administrators stated that this unofficial policy was followed so that students could check in with teachers about their grades…."
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
I'll be the old man yelling at clouds here, but I fully agree. And I have thought this since I was in my 20s.
In my high school, there was a 30+ year tradition (I know, as my mother had the same assignment) of assigning seniors "social contracts." These were enormous, quarter-long projects requiring a combination of reading 1,000-1,600 pages, answering dozens or hundreds of questions, and summarizing dozens of news stories, all due at 3:05 on the last day of each quarter. You could turn it in earlier, but if you were a minute late, you failed a class required to graduate. My second semester of my senior year was probably the hardest I worked in education outside of my 1L year.
I suspect that they've done away with it in the 25+ years since I graduated (if only because the teachers who implemented it retired). But I certainly hope not, as it kept students engaged until the end.
While I expect more students were having sex in the parking lot than checking in with teachers about grades, the idea that it's never like that anywhere else? You have really never been in a workplace where not much gets done right before Christmas, between parties and the coworkers who are already on leave? And that's people who are being paid.
En Loco Parentis....
This comment is en fuego
"Nothing else in life is like this."
The amount of work you get done the last two weeks of your job after turning in notice is quite similar. 🙂
The problem could be solved by requiring students to have sex in the parking lot. Under supervision. No slacking off!
"The Does are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and have raised their son under its doctrines and to follow its practices, one of which prohibits premarital sex."
So . . . it's actually the Does who are failing.
Poor kid.
The Does did what they were supposed to do, which was to try to instill their values in their children. Once a child reaches a certain age, the child will decide whether to observe those values or not, and if a child chooses not to, there's little to be done about it. Some children observe the values they were raised with; others do not.
"Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it" is just another in the long list of things the Bible is wrong about.
Very few self-identified Christian parents tell their kids the truth about sex. Either they lie, or they don't know themselves. As kids grow up a lot of them figure this out.
I was raised fundamentalist Christian. I don't recall being told anything about sex that was factually wrong -- nobody told me the stork brought me -- but discussion was kept to a bare minimum. Children were to be taught the basic facts of how sex and reproduction work, that any sex outside marriage (including masturbation) was forbidden), that birth control was forbidden since "be fruitful and multiply" is a positive command, and to actively shun people who might tempt one to go astray. So, of course, most of my sex education came from the public library once I was old enough to become curious about it.
I was thinking more about the role sex plays. I was brought up Catholic where doctrine is dictated by celibate males and taught by f**ked up or frightened married couples.
No, masturbation is not bad for you.
Yes, sex before marriage feels good and can be unifying.
No, oral sex is not “narcissistic” or “vicious” (!) (that’s from Pope Paul).
No, gay sex is not wrong, and can be as wonderful and unifying as straight sex.
Etc.
I mean, if it's read as a categorical law of nature, then it's wrong, but if it's read as a general principle, it isn't.
As Dana Gould said, the Bible is a book written by a bunch of men who didn't know where the sun goes at night.
"Poor kid", why? He's getting laid and there's no sign of his being church-ridden, so...?
Yeah his parents aren't celebrating, but that's the way it goes.
Well, you forgot to include the video requirement.
I remember the first time I had sex in a car, boy was I scared,
I was all alone!!!!!!!!
No supervision, but lots of jacking off.
Frank
Indeed, I have always assumed this was the reason why high schools HAD parking lots.
Kinder/Gentler Frank here, did I call the All/SEC College World’s Serious Final or not? and it was great for all of the Major Conferences to show up (lets see Big 12, Pac 12, ACC, Summit …hmm seems there’s one "Major" Conference missing), sorry, no participation trophies Oh yeah, this case???
“JD Da Man!!!!!!!!!!!”
Frank “was never da Man”
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Carry on, clingers. Enjoy the ballgames!
What is this supposed to mean? The whole world knows that about 50% of Californian high school graduates are functionally illiterate. Most of your country's unis and colleges are ABSOLUTE garbage too; they wouldn't even exist in more civilized, educated countries.
How do your blue states compare to ACTUALLY civilized Western countries?
How much of your red states are impacted by racial considerations?
Carry on, AIDS. Every day you write something imbecilic. Don't worry, though: your culture war will turn hot and these folks will Breivik your loved ones.
By the way, where do your grandkids go to school? You forgot to say.
You just listed States with high numbers of Afro-Amuricans (emphasis on the "High") What are you, a Race-ist??
"had placed restrictions on JD's activity to prevent him from having premarital sex thereafter, such as requiring him to be accompanied by other persons when he was with his girlfriend"
I've seen this documentary on PornHub, it just turns into a threesome. Or worse.
You left out the "... and requiring that JD travel to and from school with his older sibling" bit. The older sibling presumably knew that JD and g.f. were going to be on the loose, so it appears JD isn't the only child the parents aren't getting their way with.
What a change. In one lifetime. From discipline your children which included physical discipline (now outlawed as child abuse) to sue the school for my child's misbehavior. Outside the classroom. A school which chose to patrol student cars in school parking lots and interrupt private First Amendment permitted expression will also be sued by parents or students. No one is to blame for this perversion of the legal system, the fault lies not with us but with the stars.
Dammit ... you MADE my son get a blowjob in the parking lot!
I (like everyone else, so far, who is commenting) think the court got this absolutely correct.
But, I have to say, when a school adopts different procedures that take effect during normal classroom hours; I think it should inform parents. "Hey, as we do every year in the last week, students will be in normal class from 8 till noon each day. The afternoon classes are cancelled, to enable students to meet with teachers, advisors, etc, to discuss final grades, get final letters of recommendation, and the like."
If I were the parent of a high school student, I'd like to be kept up-to-date on this sort of thing. Just like I'd like to know, "Next Tuesday, students will be going on a supervised field trip to the ____ Museum, from 10 until the end of the school day." Partly for safety reasons (in case of mass shooting, earthquake, family emergency), and partly because I'd like to know where my sons and daughters are, if they're not gonna be--as reasonably expected--inside a classroom with a teacher.
23 June, 2023 . . . the date I became an official fuddy-duddy. (Do the kids still use a cool expression like this?)
Why fuddy-duddy? I agree. Kudos to the kid for getting laid, but the parents have a right to know when the school abandons its routine in a way that leaves the kids unsupervised.
I think the bottom line is right, but "rationally related to a legitimate end" is pretty far from "compelling government interest." The notion that the district is compelled to release students early, unsupervised, to speak to teachers about grades is frankly bonkers. Supervising students is a compelling interest - leaving them unsupervised cannot be.
You've misread the opinion. It's saying that a school policy need not have a compelling government interest.
So I did. Thanks.
The notion of the government somehow burdening the exercise of religion has been tortured beyond recognition, as the filing of this lawsuit bears evidence.
I feel for any kid nowadays who tries to catch some nookie in a car. I mean, if it can be done at a park @ midnight in a Geo Metro then go for it but you owe it to yourself to borrow somebodies 70's land yacht or a van or something or you are missing out.
Anyway, the kid likes it and trying to stop him is useless unless he's exceptionally dumb. I mean, we're all dumb at that point in our lives but really dumb... no nookie and you get caught by persistent parents.
Besides, the real way to deal with this is to be 16 (or whatever legal age in your place of residence) and date a college gal who has a car of her own and who is more than willing to *not* answer the phone if your parent called her.
Captain of the football team? Prom King? Parents with $? No one is as popular in school as the guy whose dating someone who can legally buy booze. (At least Fridays and Saturdays).
Good luck young lovers! 🙂