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Bryan Caplan on NIMBYism and Economic Ignorance
Leading expert on political ignorance and housing comments on evidence indicating that ignorance, not self-interest, is at the root of most opposition to zoning reform.
Regulatory restrictions on the construction of new housing inflict immense harm by cutting off millions of people from housing, educational, and job opportunities. They are also a major affront to property rights. The traditional explanation for such "exclusionary zoning" is that it is driven by the narrow self-interest of "NIMBY" ("not in my backyard") homeowners. Although society as a whole would benefit from deregulation, the NIMBYs oppose it because it might reduce their property values and allow less affluent people to move into their neighborhoods.
In a recent post, economist Bryan Caplan - a leading academic expert on both housing and public opinion - summarizes evidence challenging the traditional self-interest explanation of NIMBYism. He relies heavily on "Folk Economics and the Persistence of Political Opposition to New Housing," an important new article by legal scholar Chris Elmendorf and political scientists Clayton Nall and Stan Oklobdzija:
Why is housing regulation so draconian? The conventional answer is self-interested voting. Housing regulation is mostly local; local voters are mostly homeowners; homeowners want high housing prices; homeowners know low supply keeps prices high. Economists are especially staunch in their belief in this classic NIMBY (Not In My Backyard) story.
Part of the reason is that economists like self-interested stories of everything. In daily life, this is a reasonable presumption. But in politics, most economists have yet to realize that theory and empirics stand squarely against what I call the Self-Interested Voter Hypothesis. Since one voter has near-zero effect on political outcomes, there is near-zero reason to vote on the basis of material self-interest. And a mountain of public opinion research confirms that "symbolic attitudes" - especially ideology and group identity - are the main determinants of issue views, partisanship, and voting itself.
But even economists who accept these truths will still probably try to carve out an exception for housing regulation. What ideology urges us to make housing as expensive as possible?! If naked self-interest doesn't explain draconian regulation, what on Earth does?
My top explanation is sheer economic illiteracy. Much of the public flatly denies that housing deregulation would make housing more affordable. For them, supply-and-demand is the "ideology" - and popular complaints about the downsides of new construction are "common sense."
Do I have any evidence that economic illiteracy is the foundation of draconian housing regulation? Until recently (with notable exceptions), I only had base rates. Since there is overwhelming evidence of the public's economic illiteracy, of course they'll be economically illiterate on housing as well. But in 2022, Clayton Nall, Chris Elmendorf, and Stan Oklondzija (henceforth NEO) ran a large survey on the origins of NIMBY. Their recent paper, "Folk Economics and the Persistence of Political Opposition to New Housing" strongly supports my story.
The rest of Caplan's post is an insightful summary and analysis of NEO's important findings. I discussed those findings myself here. I don't think the NEO paper proves that all NIMBY opposition to housing deregulation is caused by ignorance. In my earlier post on their work, I note some other factors:
Economic ignorance is not the only factor driving NIMBYism. Some people really do oppose new construction based on careful calculations of their narrow self-interest. While current homeowners can often benefit from development in various ways, if you're an owner who does not have children (or doesn't care about their housing costs), doesn't care much about promoting growth and innovation, and wants to ensure that the "character" of your neighborhood changes as little as possible, you might rationally oppose zoning reform, even if you understand its effects perfectly well. Historically, racial and ethnic prejudice has also been an important factor, though it has waned more recently, as education levels have risen and white suburbanites have become more open to integration.
While the NEO paper doesn't prove that ignorance is the only factor here, it does demonstrate that it is extremely important, probably far more so than the traditional NIMBY story of homeowners carefully calculating their self-interest. At this point in time, I think it's also more significant than old-fashioned racist hostility to a potential influx of minorities. Among other things, NEO show there are few differences between homeowners and renters on housing deregulation issues, and that many in both groups actually believe that building more housing will increase prices rather than reduce them!
NEO also demonstrate that voters tend to (illogically) blame developers for increased prices, even though the latter are actually the ones whose activities are likely to reduce them. This is much like blaming high egg prices on farmers' efforts to increase egg production. But many people believe it, nonetheless.
As Caplan and I emphasize in our respective posts, such ignorance and economic illiteracy is far from unique to this issue. It's a widespread problem arising from the "rational ignorance" of voters. But it's especially pernicious in this instance, because of the enormous harmed caused by exclusionary zoning.
In another commentary on the NEO article, Alex Tabarrok (Caplan's colleague at the George Mason University economics department) summarized it as "look around at the housing market and declare there are idiots" - contrary to economists' usual assumption that people behave rationally. But, for most voters, being ignorant and biased about public policy is in fact rational, given the very low likelihood that your vote or other activities will have a decisive impact on policy outcomes. You don't have to be an "idiot" to hold ignorant and foolish views about zoning - just a person who would rather spend his or her time on things other than studying housing policy. That preference is often entirely rational, especially if you have many other demands on your time, you don't find housing policy interesting, and you know that you are unlikely to have much impact on it, even if you did study it carefully.
Caplan ends on a note of optimism:
Is this good news or bad news? As I've argued before, given the existence of awful policies, it's good news. If the status quo were a durable expression of self-interest, it would be nigh invulnerable. Why? Because (a) human nature won't change, and (b) the costs of bargaining are plainly too high to reconcile our conflicting self-interests. Otherwise, such bargaining would be common already, and we wouldn't find ourselves in our current predicament. If the problem is economic illiteracy, however, at least we don't have to change human nature to dramatically change policy. Perhaps we can just repeatedly hit the public over the head with a friendly sledgehammer of economic education.
I hope this optimism is justified. But I'm not sure it is. Breaking through rational ignorance and bias is possible - but often very difficult. If it were easy, more political leaders would try to combat public ignorance rather than manipulate it to their advantage. In Chapter 2 of my book Democracy and Political Ignorance, I describe why an electorate of highly knowledgeable but narrowly self-interested voters might actually be preferable to one that is altruistic, but highly ignorant and biased.
Nevertheless, there have been several successful zoning reform efforts in various states over the last few years, most recently in Montana. Strong are the forces of ignorance. But not invincible.
UPDATE: I have made some minor additions to this post.
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How about doing a post on the part of the media for fostering ignorance (economic and otherwise) by their irresponsible and inaccurate reporting (propaganda or just plain laziness)?
How about a post on Ilya Somin's ignorance on the economics of immigration?
Or, perhaps, a post on Mr. Somin's advocacy for relaxation of zoning laws in his neighborhood. Weirdly, not a scrap of the city's low-income housing development plan has encroached on the region of his ~$400/sq ft domicile.
Alternatively, a series on people who have "foot voted" themselves into his backyard, and what an awesome dynamic that is for everyone involved.
I'll not hold my breath for either.
I'm beginning to think "ignorance" is the new "false consciousness".
Look, take me as an example. I live in what, when I moved into it, was a sleepy bedroom community. The area is remarkably prosperous, which is good, but that's leading to a lot of people moving in. Well, fine, there was a lot of undeveloped land in the area, too. Probably could have increased the population at least 50% without materially altering the character of the city, just by building on the margins.
But most of it's being developed as high density housing, not the sort of suburban living with 1/3-1/2 acre lots that previously dominated. Is it "ignorant" of me to object to this? Here are the downsides:
1. The population is expanding far beyond the capacity of the existing roads, leading to horrific traffic.
2. Owners of detached suburban homes are no longer the politically dominant force here, which means that we've lost control of the government we live under, which is no longer acting in OUR interest. We're just along for the ride.
3. Transients bring a lot more crime. We picked this neighborhood for its low crime rate, now we're hearing police sirens all the time.
Is there anything "ignorant" about objecting to these developments, which predictably resulted from zoning 'reform'? No, not really. We just wanted to keep what we already had, which required that the rules in place STAY in place.
What you had was the property you bought, and (I assume) you still have it. Remind me why you get to tell everyone else what they get to do with the property they paid for?
So you think only government can tell you what to do with YOUR property?
Because we all came in under the same terms, signed onto the same deal; We moved into a quiet suburban neighborhood with quiet suburban neighborhood zoning, and thus the reasonable expectation we would continue to find ourselves in a quiet suburban neighborhood.
Then the local government changed the deal, and we pray it doesn't change it further...
The interests of the governed, and those who govern, are never precisely the same even in the best of times. Those who govern always face the temptation to, in those famous words, "elect a new people". Ours succeeded in that ambition, and now we're a powerless minority in our own city, watching it change around us contrary to our interests.
Well, our own fault for being complacent, and not keeping a close enough eye on what the guys in city hall were up to. But still, not good for us.
You see, Ilya is continually going on and on about foot voting, about how people can improve their circumstances by moving to a more suitable location. And that's entirely true, and the country would benefit enormously if people were less rooted in areas that are doing badly. Escaping those places is enormously easier than improving them, and no coordination problem to overcome, either!
BUT. Foot voting requires that there be a diversity of places, doesn't it? If every place is the same, foot voting is futile.
And a diversity of places, requires a diversity of rules. Because that diversity of rules is what sustains the diversity of places.
And that's the hole in Ilya's thinking: He wants the benefit of that diversity, the feasibility of foot voting that it creates, but he abhors the cause of that diversity, diverse rules. He wants to destroy the very wellspring of what he treasures!
Sure, local zoning rules are often pathological. But everybody adopting the same rules is equally pathological, and he doesn't see that.
a diversity of places, requires a diversity of rules. Because that diversity of rules is what sustains the diversity of places.
This assumes rules direct every aspect of people’s lives and culture. That’s just not true.
Groups will be different under the same rules if you allow any discretion at all.
Moreover, advocating for a particular policy does not mean you're in favor of utter conformity. That's pretty ridiculous, actually.
“This assumes rules direct every aspect of people’s lives and culture. That’s just not true.”
Well, you’re right; It’s just not true that this assumes rules direct every aspect of people’s lives and cultures.
Why do you keep pulling this sort of crap? Do you think it actually persuades anybody?
You say that given the same set of rules will give rise to the same kind of place.
This requires that rules be the only thing defining how a place will be.
This means either that the rules are utterly directive, or that people have no diversity of behavior given the same set of rules. Both are ridiculous.
Why do you feed the troll?
I don’t think this line of thinking holds a lot of water: after all, you also moved into a city with laws that allowed the zoning rules to be changed through a political process: why was it reasonable to suppose that it wouldn’t ever do so?
On a more fundamental level, how does this philosophy not justify every governmental regulation imaginable?
Look, the rules got changed through a political process in the sense that the local government rushed the changes through while we weren't paying attention, and by the time we woke to what they'd done, it was too late. It's not like there was voter demand for lots of high density housing springing up in the middle of our subdivisions!
We just weren't attentive enough. But if Ilya got his way, and the zoning changes were imposed from above, even being attentive wouldn't have saved us.
Some people like living in high density urban areas. Some people like living in rural areas. Some like the suburbs in between.
But suburbs are not stable against urbanization without zoning against high density housing. So the decision that nobody can have zoning against high density housing means nobody gets to have suburbs.
If the kind of neighborhood you want to live in can't exist without men with guns threatening to put your neighbors in a cage if they use their own property in a way that makes you unhappy, that seems like a you problem.
Something is missing here, Brett.
Why did the local government change the rules? What was the political motivation?
If a majority wanted the rules changed, how can you claim that this was somehow unfair?
Another thing missing is some modesty.
we all came in under the same terms, signed onto the same deal; We moved into a quiet suburban neighborhood with quiet suburban neighborhood zoning, and thus the reasonable expectation we would continue to find ourselves in a quiet suburban neighborhood.
All? How do you know that? People buying homes generally have lots of things they want, and usually end up having to compromise somewhat among them. How do you know some of your neighbors wouldn't prefer a more urban setting, but bought where they did because of price, or being close to work, or who knows?
Not everyone who lives in a suburb considers it the ideal residential arrangement.
"What was the political motivation? "
Money
As you say.
It's not grammatically possible to construct a properly formed English sentence containing the word "zoning" without also including the word "bribe."
I'd say the words are "zoning variance" and "re-zoning," but otherwise concur with your statement.
Absolutely correct, Brett. I bought in an ESTABLISHED single-family neighbornood for the very reason that there was ZERO undeveloprd land within a mile of us. We bought land AND a lifestyle (which has a GREAT value that economists, like Ilya and Bryan, refuse to revognize). But that value is a FACT and part of my rational decision to buy this house and to defend it at all costs. Especially the political costs (not on Ilya’s narrow horizon) that I have been able to, with other homeowners, impose on my City Council (where 300 swing votes can end a career). Oh, BTW, I have a Doctorate, understand the narrow field of economics, am a University professor, and see the world through wide-view glasses.
MY neighbors over the years have all underdstood that part of what they were buying HERE included a lot AND a stable neighborhood of single-family homes. This has been true for 50 years as ownerdhip turned over re every buyer.
BTW, the neihhborhood has always had racial and ethnic diversity. Much more that the new apartment insta-housing complexes along the freeway.
"Remind me why you get to tell everyone else what they get to do with the property they paid for?"
If "you" is a majority of the jurisdiction, then they get to do that because that's how government works, I guess.
I don't necessarily agree with it. But I also don't agree with a bigger government coming in and telling everyone else what they get to do with their property or with their zoning laws.
Those two things are contradictory. The bigger government is coming in and telling everyone else that they don't get to use their zoning laws to tell people what they get to do with their property.
"Those two things are contradictory. The bigger government is coming in and telling everyone else that they don’t get to use their zoning laws to tell people what they get to do with their property."
Nope. They are doing both, and this is not contradictory at all. In theory, there might be a measure like you describe, but in practice there are also other regulations by the bigger government, and the long-term tendencies of increasingly centralized and powerful government are such that the pavement of good intentions leads you know where.
No evidence; pure ideology.
"What you had was the property you bought"
No, they have property in a significantly changed condition. They lost the benefit of their bargain.
They bargained for a piece of property that was subject to certain rules. Those rules included both some limits on how other people could use their property, as well as rules about how to change those rules. Unless Brett Bellmore hasn’t mentioned something important, he got exactly what he paid for. He just wants other people to use what they paid for in a way that better suits his preferences.
They bargained for, paid for, and got, a piece of property. They did not bargain for or pay for the right to tell other people what to do with their own pieces of property.
No, that's the job of government via zoning changes.
The government changed the zoning rules to make them less restrictive. People who wanted to use property they owned to build high density residential units could do so. Nobody was forced to do anything.
"People who wanted to use property they owned to build high density residential units could do so. "
That would be zero people.
You meant "Developers who wanted to use property they didn't own yet to build high density residential units could do so."
Ah, so developers and the beings they bought property from are actually lizards?
No, just that the owners at the time of the zoning change are not the people building these block busters. They've moved after selling to developers.
“bargained for, paid for, and got”
People certainly do bargain for, and pay for, various characteristics of the neighborhood such as exclusive single-family, high average home values, high-performing school district, etc. They pay A LOT! They just don’t necessarily “get” it in any durable sense.
Which is why they lobby for and support zoning restrictions. Because they are rational actors, at least in terms of their own self-interest.
In small towns and areas I'm aware of, residents are keenly aware of the effects, economic and otherwise, of having the social services office located in their town, for example, or a government subsidized housing complex. They are far from ignorant. Meanwhile professional intellectual masturbators exude ignorance.
Few homeowners vote on zoning with the idea of increasing property values, these are homes, where we live, not just investments.
In my middle to upper middle class neighborhood of single family homes there are two rental properties, both owned by the same person. One is rented seasonally to 4-6 college students, the other to a woman in her mid 20's who enjoys having lots of friends over. The owner has the lawn mowed once a month, no other exterior work or landscaping has been done for years. Both houses host loud outdoor gatherings that last late into the wee hours of the morning. Both of the renters, and their guests, drive the streets without regard to walkers and cyclists.
In short, they aren't appropriate residents for a family neighborhood of owner occupied homes.
There's a saying that no one washes a rental car, it's also true that no one maintains the exterior or cares about the neighborhood of a rental house
Yeah, I live in a well maintained suburban neighborhood. And then there's this one rental house; Never mowed, trees growing in the gutters, the front porch railings broken. It's the neighborhood eyesore. At least they don't throw drunken parties...
I wish they'd just sell it to somebody who'd take care of it.
Given the expansiveness of zoning and health code, this property must bee in violation of several. Does it take a complaint to get the government to enforce them?
They're an eyesore, but JUST an eyesore, so I'll leave them be.
I can understand your reluctance to complain, but my point was that you shouldn't have to. Your description points to certain violations that are more than an eyesore and the local government should be the ones enforcing their codes with or without a complaint.
Average "small government conservative/libertarian" when they see something they don't like but which causes them no harm (immediately attempts to use state power against others).
Lots of big populists here with anecdotes of how actually salt of the earth is very smart.
But there’s a study you should probably engage with, lest you seem ignorant. It’s the whole point of the OP, really:https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4266459
“Political scientists commonly attribute the underproduction of housing in US metropolitan areas to unequal participation and collective action problems. Homeowners, who are organized, repeat players in local politics, mobilize against proposed projects nearby, while renters, who would benefit from more housing, benefit too diffusely to mobilize for it and may not even vote in the jurisdiction. Using data from two nationally representative surveys of urban and suburban residents, we posit a further cause of the housing shortage: public misunderstanding of housing markets.Through vignettes describing a 10% shock to regional housing supply, we find that only about 30–40% of respondents believe that additional supply would reduce prices and rents. Using a conjoint design, we find that this “Supply Skepticism” is robust to question wording, stipulated counterfactual assumptions, and the cause of the supply shock. It also appears to be specific to housing: respondents generally gave correct answers to questions about supply shocks in other markets. Finally, we find that while nearly all renters and even a majority of homeowners say they would prefer home prices and rents in their city to be lower in the future, support for state preemption of local land-use restrictions depends on beliefs about housing markets. “Supply skepticism” among renters undermines their support for home construction, while some homeowners appear to be more supportive of new development than they would be if they held conventional economic views.”
"surveys of urban and suburban residents"
Issue surveys are garbage, no exception.
You can keep reciting this religious mantra all the rest of your life and it won't be true, and also this wasn't an issue survey.
The study was based on two surveys. So its applicable.
It certainly is true.
Issue polls depend on the wording of the questions and the order the questions are asked. Declining response rates make them even less reliable than 20 years ago.
Perhaps Mr. Nieporent has never litigated a case where surveys were used to ostensibly measure public opinions/behaviors. Any survey architect worth their salt can create any outcome needed based on wording, ordering, and priming/anchoring lead-in questions.
Sarcastro, it's not a matter of "smart": The homeowners and the renters actually have different interests. Both sets of interests can't be vindicated at the same time in the same place.
And government has interests distinct from both.
Maybe, but that's not really relevant to the OP, which is about one particular group's motivations.
It's relevant in the sense that Ilya likes describing people having different interests as "ignorance". Like I said: "Ignorance" is the new "false consciousness", a way of disposing with the fact that people annoyingly have their own reasons and interests.
Except that the study in the OP that I quoted demonstrates not a variance of incentives but actual ignorance.
Destroying single family neighborhoods is not "reform".
Blaming developers for high prices is not entirely wrong. Given the upper limits to density and number of units that are imposed on them by zoning commissions (which DO consist pretty much entirely of selfish, rich homeowners), it only makes sense for a developer to want each of the homes he builds to bring as high a price as possible.
But it’s not just the rich who drive housing policy. Welfare housing projects require voter approval under federal civil rights laws, and middle class homeowners will turn out to keep them out of town because of the crime they bring. The only reason the poor are not all homeless is that the neighbors of houses like that “eyesore” where the lawn never gets mowed don’t always have a similar power to prevent its existence. Degentrification is the way housing becomes available to the poor. Prevent it from happening and you can’t expect the poor to just shut up and take it. They will burn you out of your city.
The best way to alleviate these conflicts, in my view, is to institute a true free market in housing, so that all land near inhabited areas is available for building more homes. When this is done, I expect the price of farmland to be bid up until it is roughly equal to the price of the same area of urban land; and this increased cost (or opportunity cost, at least) will in turn be reflected as a capital cost in the price of food; and before you mention greenbelts, well, park land has an opportunity cost too, which park visitors and neighbors will need to pay. But that’s the way it needs to be.
I think you're missing another driver of high housing costs, which is governments reliant on property taxes.
When I lived in rural Michigan, I'd gladly have just built a small house, maybe a carriage house design, and ended up with no debt. But the local building code set the minimum house size at about 1600 square feet! Almost twice the size of my parents' old home, where they'd raised 3 kids.
Well, the local government didn't want cheap homes being built, because cheap homes meant cheap property taxes.
Come on, man, upthread you were complaining about the rental house eyesore in your neighborhood.
Don’t you see that for the McMansion owners around you, your 1600 sq ft carriage house would’ve been an eyesore, an assault on their property values, and a magnet drawing lesser-income people like yourself into their neighborhood?
Yeah, 1600 sq ft would be fine for you. Maybe the people in that rental house think it’s fine for them.
Try re-reading what he wrote.
You are exhibiting the "ignorance" Somin spoke of.
Yeah, I see his point is that the city or county wants the property tax. But it wouldn’t surprise any of us to learn that (some) property owners are very supportive of the restrictions as well, and show up at rezoning hearings.
The dipshits on the zoning board up and passed an ordinance prohibiting outbuildings unless they were behind a house. I was at the zoning board meeting to get a variance on my own property, which due to a survey error in the 1800's, (It was at the end of a section.)
It was standing room only, farmers complaining because they'd have to build a damned house on their fields in order to put up a barn. That's how much thought the dipshits put into things, and how much notice we got before they did it.
It's my understanding that zoning ordinances aren't "passed" by zoning boards but rather by the town council. Would be pretty unusual for un-elected appointees to write and pass ordinances.
Property-tax dependence is just another reason why governments are not to be trusted with the power to legislate the use of property.
The only moral limitations on what you can build on your own land are (1) the traditional common law of nuisances and (2) contractual obligation. If you want the land around your home to stay the same as it was when you moved in, it is on you to pay the market price for those restrictions on other people's property rights. And they don't have to sell.
Exactly.
I don't necessarily have strong views one way or the other on the NIMBY vs. YIMBY divide, but it is incredibly grating for people like Caplan and Somin to label opposition to their program as "ignorance", as though their preferred economic theories are some sort of "science" akin chemistry or mathematics. Truth is, they are propogandists for neoliberal capitalism, not patient teachers trying to dispassionately lead their students to a better understanding of the facts.
Doubtless they and their allies have for decades labeled views like opposition to free trade and support for labor protections as simply "economic ignorance." They won, and we got NAFTA, union busting, and deregulation as a result. People have now seen what these policies have wrought, and do not like the result. Maybe these "economic geniuses" didn't have it all figured out after all.
Maybe these guys are right that their housing policies would make things better. Maybe not. But they're going to have to actually make a case for them. Calling people ignorant because "tHeY JusT dOn'T uNderStaNd SupPlY aNd DeManD" won't cut it anymore.
That has pretty much been Somin's stock in trade whether it's housing or illegal immigration or whatever.
Agreed.
What would be a better word to describe the belief that a 10% increase in the housing supply would raise the cost of housing?
How about the economic ignorance to presume that the 10% additional housing would be of the same size and quality of existing housing? You do know that "Gentrification" is a thing, right?
Just as an example, a bunch of old 1/3 acre lot single family homes were replaced with townhomes near IAD. The single family homes were $200K-$300K: old and small. The new, larger, townhomes retail for $500K to $800K. More housing and higher costs for housing.
There certainly are a lot of strange opinions represented in the survey - 10% of people stated that lowering the quality of life in a neighborhood would increase housing prices there. But many of the questions in that survey make questionable assumptions. There was a lot of discussion of this all when Somin posted the survey last year.
The point isn’t that the new houses themselves will be cheaper, but that home prices overall will be.
That is only half the point. The other half is that the existing homes in the neighborhood are now different from, and in the opinion of the owners, inferior to, what they were before.
So "home prices" may be cheaper. But they are also worse homes. For new buyers, they may or may not be better value depending on whether prices are lower by an amount that exceeds or falls short of the reduced quality of the home.
For existing owners, they get a worse home and a lower value. A two-fer. But obviously it would be irrational to vote against the plan 🙂
I think one of the terms used in the Caplan article - Supply Skeptics - is fair enough.
Look, it's possible (likely even) that increasing the housing stock would make housing more affordable in a given location. But it doesn't follow as some sort of iron law or anything. If 10,000 new units get built in Chicago, that *might* make marginally reduce rental costs for the average Chicagoan. Or it might induce 11,000 new people to move to Chicago from Gary, Indiana and downstate Illinois to fill them up. Sure, housing prices would go down *somewhere* (i.e. in Gary and downstate Illinois). But that hardly seems like a policy win . . .
Somin makes the mistake to suppose that in high-priced housing areas, it is the housing itself driving the demand. That is far from the only factor, and in some places not the most important factor. The more important factors boil down to, opportunity, fashion, and amenities. In a place like Manhattan, you can build all the cheap crowded housing you want, but the opportunities, fashionability and amenities of Manhattan will not increase in proportion. Hence the chance to live near those unique advantages will continue to bid up the value of new housing, no matter how much gets built.
I mean, that's clearly nonsensical on a theoretical level, and manifestly untrue empirically, but even if it were - wouldn't the ability for more people who want to live in the city to have the opportunity to do so without increasing costs for other people be reason enough to justify allowing more housing.
I assert that what you call, "the ability," is, empirically, not even a possibility. So many people would live in Manhattan if they could, that the vast majority of them will always go unaccommodated for want of space to put them there, or infrastructure to support them there.
That same limitation applies to all the most attractive urban core areas. As you add population, at some point space and infrastructure limits push the marginal additions out beyond whatever distance can satisfy the urge to be there. Those situations thus define that kind of access as a bidding opportunity for the wealthiest individuals world-wide.
The result is what you see. You can't build yourself out of it. The only access ordinary folks will ever have to get into situations like that is via willingness to live in sub-standard but close-in conditions which repel the wealthy. Zoning and other regulations can preserve those conditions to some extent. The free market wipes them out whenever it is permitted to do it.
I share the skepticism of a lot of other commenters about using survey results to conclude that a broad swath of opposition to the author's preferred policy results from ignorance. I get that the survey authors purportedly controlled for various other explanations. But I wonder how successful they were given the complexity of this issue.
One clue that there's a problem here is the repeated use of the phrases "narrow interests" and "NIMBY-ism" to describe the alternative explanation (alternative to ignorance) for people supporting zoning laws. The implication is that it is a binary choice - people opposing zoning reform are either ignorant or selfish. But it strikes me as perfectly legitimate for someone who paid a premium for real estate in an area with little traffic and plenty of green space to want to preserve . . . little traffic and plenty of green space. And when a family stretches to buy in a neighborhood with a good school district, it isn't narrow-minded to oppose a massive influx of high-density housing that may result in adverse changes to the prestige of those schools. A world in which everyone cared as much about other people's kids as their own might be great, but it isn't the one we have. I'll bet even some anti-zoning folks send their kids to private school.
Hearing people describe themselves as "experts" in "political ignorance" makes me cringe. Being an expert in what motivates another person is hard enough. Perhaps some humility is in order before proclaiming oneself an expert in the motives of thousands of strangers. It reminds me of the perennial complaint, from whichever political party lost a particular election, that the problem was "poor branding." It's easier than accepting you lost the debate and preserves a sense of superiority over one's adversaries. But it's almost always wrong.
I'm just amused that so many of our free marketeers here suddenly throw caveat emptor out the window when it comes to buying residential property.
You are obviously easily amused.
The VC used to be a thriving legal neighborhood.
Then BravoCharlieDelta and Bumble moved in.
Always adding soooo much with your thoughtful and informative comments.
Not just caveat emptor but also the scope of government.
The government isn’t even obligated to prevent your neighbor from committing murder, rape, and assault. Hard to see how they have an obligation to prevent him from building a duplex.
I'm not surprised Somin likes this guy; he cites himself and links to his books almost as often as Somin does.
I’m struggling to get my head round the idea that because one vote doesn’t make a difference it’s illogical to vote according to what you want. Obviously a bunch of votes CAN make a difference, and if a bunch of voters decide that some new zoning rule adversely affects them and they each, individually, decide they don’t like it and vote accordingly then the next election may have a different result. This doesn’t seem to have anything to do with symbolic values, it’s just a bandwagon, influenced by in my example an economic trigger being pulled in many voters minds, no doubt amplified by social exchange, ie discussion, campaigning etc. We’ve just seen the same thing with Bud Light’s fiasco. It’s irrational to boycott Bud Light because you’re just one drinker. Tell that to the Bud Light sales department. Individual actions have consequences if they are copied by others, or reflect responses to stimuli that are also experienced by others. Or if you want to be technical, if one persons action is not “independent” of another’s.
I have a question for the mathematically sophisticated. Somin's notion of rational political ignorance seems to define rationality to equate to understanding the low probability of a single vote to decide a national election. That seems mathematically naive. Consider the Florida election in 2000. The margin was 537 votes. The votes cast were > 5,800,000. The outcome of the national election turned on those facts.
Voting is an individual activity, but politics is a group activity. Imagine energetic political group activity among a population of 5,800,000. Is it so hard to imagine an outcome which reorganized the voting preferences of some sample of 538 voters? How many opportunities to do that were there? How does the probability of that kind of success compare to the probability of one vote swinging the election?
Consider the question as a problem in combinations. How many combinations are there of 5,800,000 taken 538 at a time? There are a lot of them. My computer's calculator function boggles at the factorial calculations necessary to compute an answer.
I do not suggest that ordinary folks understand even that conceptually simple problem in statistics. I do insist that plenty of folks understand that the political process is not merely about the chance to win a preferred outcome on the basis of their own single vote.
Somin's inability to understand that is thus remarkable, but likely an outlier. Perhaps an outlier demonstrating a bit of political ignorance on Somin's part.
More generally, calling ignorant the opponents of your own preferred political ideology is a grimly-humorous mis-step. Politically sophisticated observers understand that approach exposes its advocates to errors which excessive rationalism invites whenever it is practiced as an attempt to organize an empirically-governed reality such as politics.
Attempts to do inherently chaotic political processes rationalistically are how you get communist politics, and fascist politics, organized almost alike, while they fight each other at the cost of tens of millions of lives. Brilliant political leaders seize without reflection on every advantageous happenstance. Then they spin rationalistic narratives to fascinate and distract the likes of the world's Somins.
He also ignores that local elections are frequently decided with single-digit (or even single-number) margins.
That is a very big conclusion to rest on a very flimsy premise. You are really taken with this "voters must all be irrational" idea. I wonder if you would see how ridiculous it really is if you ever considered it in other contexts?
"Gee, whether I push a little harder on this offensive line on this one play has no measurable effect on whether we win this football game. Guess I won't put much effort in."