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Recent Supreme Court Decisions and Equality
I to participated last Fall on a Wisconsin Law Review symposium panel on "Is the Court out of Control?," and I wrote up a short (12-page) article for that. I'm posting it in several pieces; I hope some of you find it interesting, and I also still have time to make any corrections, if need be. Here's the second part (you can also read the first part), which responds to some criticisms of recent Supreme Court decisions:
Of course, there are other things that people might argue should control the Court. Perhaps, for instance, the Court should feel controlled by particular substantive principles, such as equality.
So, for example, some suggest that the Court's new Free Exercise Clause jurisprudence wrongly protects just conservative Christians.[1] But I don't think this is so on the facts (and I say this as a longstanding defender of Employment Division v. Smith[2] and therefore a critic of some of the Court's recent moves towards a broader reading of the Free Exercise Clause[3]). Consider, for instance, the outcomes of the Court's recent religious exemption cases, whether under statutory schemes (RFRA and its sibling RLUIPA) or under the Free Exercise Clause:
- Gonzalez v. O Centro Espírita Beneficente União do Vegetal[4] protected a small Brazilian religion that is centered around the use of a hallucinogenic plant (União do Vegetal translates to "the Union of the Plants"),[5] which is very far removed culturally and theologically from American Christianity.
- Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.[6] indeed protected conservative Christians who objected to funding what they viewed as coverage of abortion.
- Holt v. Hobbs[7] protected Muslim prisoners who objected to beard bans. Such beard mandates are usually characteristic of Muslims, Jews, and Sikhs.[8]
- Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn v. Cuomo[9] protected Catholics' religious gatherings, but its companion case was Agudath Israel of America v. Cuomo, brought by a Jewish congregation.[10]
- Fulton v. City of Philadelphia[11] protected a Catholic group.
- Dunn v. Ray[12] rejected a Muslim death row inmate's claim about a right to have a spiritual advisor of his faith present during the execution, while Murphy v. Collier[13] accepted such a claim (as to a stay application) by a Buddhist, and Ramirez v. Collier[14] accepted such a claim by a Baptist. But, again, one of the prevailing inmates was a non-Christian, and it appears that the non-Christian inmate who lost did so because the Court concluded his claim was untimely.[15]
Of course, religious freedom protections may end up applying to Christians more often (as they did in three of these six cases) just because there are more Christians in America. You wouldn't expect Jews or Muslims to be the primary beneficiaries when they are two percent and one percent of the population, respectively.[16] But in any event, there doesn't seem to be any real evidence of a departure from religious equality in the cases.
Likewise with regard to race and guns [another criticism that had come up at the symposium -EV]. People of all races may have reason to own guns (just as people of all races may want to vote for gun controls).[17] A recent large survey by a Georgetown professor concludes, for instance, that though black gun ownership percentages are somewhat lower than white gun ownership percentages, 44% of black gun owners reported defensive gun uses as opposed to 29% of white gun owners (perhaps because black people are more likely to live in communities that are threatened by violent crime, and thus are more likely to need armed self-defense).[18] The net result is that the percentage of black people who reported using guns defensively is nearly identical to the percentage of white people.[19] Indeed, perhaps unsurprisingly, the percentage was highest for American Indians among all the identified groups included in the study.[20]
To be sure, black people are also more likely to be victimized by gun violence; but I doubt that a different result in Bruen would have had much effect on criminal gun users. If people want to rob you, they're not willing to comply with a law against robbery, so they're probably not willing to comply with a law against gun possession in public, either. It's the law-abiding people who are most likely to comply with restrictions on gun ownership and gun carrying.
None of this says that that gun rights are good policy. None of it disposes of the constitutional question. But it does undermine the claim that Bruen is about protecting white people.
[1]. [Cite other symposium article.]
[2]. 494 U.S. 872, 872 (1990).
[3]. See, e.g., Eugene Volokh, A Common-Law Model for Religious Exemptions, 46 UCLA L. Rev. 1465 (1999); Brief Amicus Curiae of Professor Eugene Volokh in Support of Neither Party, Fulton v. City of Philadelphia, 141 S. Ct. 1868 (2020) (No. 19-123).
[5]. Centro Espírita Beneficente União do Vegetal in the United States, UDV USA, https://udvusa.org/ [https://perma.cc/8GS5-PW2W] (last visited Feb. 14, 2023).
[8]. Beards are common among Christian Orthodox priests but are apparently not required for them and are certainly not required for the Christian Orthodox laity. See, e.g., Religious Beards: From Sikhs to Jews, HuffPost (Oct. 8, 2014, 10:21 AM), https://www.huffpost.com/entry/religious-beards_n_5947438 [https://perma.cc/87PJ-K2P9]; Patricia Claus, Why Greek Orthodox Priests Have Beards, Greek Rep. (Mar. 18, 2022), https://greekreporter.com/2022/03/18/greek-orthodox-priests-beards/ [https://perma.cc/S9XS-ZF9B]; Concerning the Tradition of Long Hair and Beards, Orthodox Christian Info. Ctr., http://orthodoxinfo.com/praxis/clergy_hair.aspx [https://perma.cc/P2SB-87S6] (last visited Feb. 16, 2023).
[10]. Id.
[11]. 141 S. Ct. 1868 (2021). I set aside here the cases that deal with the exemption to antidiscrimination laws for the clergy and for teaches of religion. This exemption has long been treated as subject to a different rule than normal religious exemption requests. Though these cases did indeed involve Christian defendants, their holdings equally protect all religious groups (for instance, Orthodox Jewish congregations or traditional Muslim groups that don't allow female rabbis or imams).
[12]. 139 S. Ct. 661 (2019).
[13]. 139 S. Ct. 1475 (2019).
[14]. 142 S. Ct. 1264 (2022).
[15]. Dunn, 139 S. Ct. at 661; Ramirez, 142 S. Ct. at 1285–86 (Kavanaugh, J., concurring).
[16]. Religious Landscape Study, Pew Rsch. Ctr., https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/ [https://perma.cc/Z4XJ-CW5K] (last visited Feb. 14, 2023).
[17]. For works explaining the special value of the Second Amendment to minority groups, see, for example, Robert J. Cottrol & Raymond T. Diamond, The Second Amendment: Toward an Afro-Americanist Reconsideration, 80 Geo. L.J. 309 (1991); Nicholas J. Johnson, Firearms and Protest: Lessons from the Black Tradition of Arms, 54 Conn. L. Rev. 953 (2022); Charles E. Cobb Jr., This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible (2015).
[18]. William English, 2021 National Firearms Survey: Updated Analysis Including Types of Firearms Owned 7–8, 12 (Georgetown McDonough Sch. of Bus., Research Paper No. 4109494, 2022), https://ssrn.com/abstract=4109494.
[19]. 25.4% of black respondents owned firearms, and 44.3% of those reported defensive gun uses; the numbers for whites were 34.3% and 29.7%. Id. Multiplying, we get an estimate of 10.2% of white American adults having used guns defensively, and 11.2% of black American adults.
[20]. 38.2% of American Indian respondents owned guns and 47.7% of those reported defensive gun uses, so the estimate is that 18.2% of American Indian adults had used guns defensively. Id. at 12; Email from William English, Assistant Professor, Georgetown McDonough Sch. of Bus., to author, Sept. 12, 2022, 8:29 PM.
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I note that you omit Kennedy v. Bremerton and Carson v. Makin from your list of religion cases. Both, IMO, were clearly wrongly decided. Kennedy is especially annoying because the court based its decision on plain falsehoods.
As to this:
Of course, religious freedom protections may end up applying to Christians more often (as they did in three of these six cases) just because there are more Christians in America. You wouldn't expect Jews or Muslims to be the primary beneficiaries when they are two percent and one percent of the population, respectively.
The issue is not simply whether there are many more Christians than Muslims, Jews, or Buddhists. It is also which group is most likely to face discrimination.
He hates when people mention the cherry-picking.
What's your point? You found more cases that involved mainstream Christian groups? That does not undermine his thesis that the SCOTUS religion cases have favored all religious groups, including mainstream and minority groups.
"It is also which group is most likely to face discrimination."
Given the increasing secularization of American society, and the sometimes outright hostility to religion in general, Chrisitans will be facing more and more discrimination. Especially as there are many more of them than, say Jews.
And as an Orthodox Jews, I can take advantage of these decisions as much anyone else. Florida recently enacted a voucher system, which many religious groups, including Jewish ones, have welcomed. When the new scheme is challenged, Carson v. Makin will no doubt be a major discussion point in defending the law.
The special privileges associated with religion may -- probably will and should -- diminish as America continues to progress, but that does not indicate discrimination. To the contrary, it involves a reduction in discrimination.
Thomas Jefferson said the same thing -- just before the Second Great Awakening. A Third Great Awakening is coming...
You figure conservatives are going to slow the tide . . . make that stop the tide . . . no, wait, they're going to reverse the tide of the culture war?
Superstition, bigotry, can't-keep-up rural communities, dying industries, cultural backwardness, and other conservative preferences are going to make a comeback in America?
Getting stomped for so long in the culture war has made conservatives desperate, disaffected, and delusional.
Conservatives would out breed people like Rev here, but alas, millions of foreigners keep being let in to replace them.
Actually, most of the people coming in from Mexico and Central America tend to be conservative Catholics. So, if you really want to outbreed liberals you should support open borders.
The people from Mexico and Central America are not, as a rule, conservative Catholic, though they are Catholic in the sense that most Catholics are Catholic these days, more “cultural Catholic” than anything else. There is a strong strain of big government liberalism in Mexican and South American Catholicism as influenced by national culture. Regardless, they vote Democrat.
Prop 8 was wrong, and good to overturn in courts.
However, California talking heads were shocked, shocked Latino immigrants didn't toe the "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" unwritten agreement, and voted for it.
Then, the party screaming democracy uber alles, had another case of we love democracy...until we don't, and ran off to the courts.
So, cheesy political hackery and situational ethics, the high valuation of principles when it supports your already-decided opinion, and the low valuation of it in another application, when it gets in your way.
Rev. Kirkland hasn't figured out yet that he'll never get pregnant letting all those men deposit themselves in his anus.
WASPs figured out to late that the Southern Europeans that they let in for the cheap labor would out breed them, and froze immigration in the 1920s. It took another generation, but it happened.
Not true. Scientists just created a female egg from male DNA, and then impregnated it with sperm.
Have a cite or link for that?
Curious to read for myself just what they did. I'm guessing this was done with mice.
An egg is neither male nor female.
Trans egg?
No luck finding the source article. Here’s a press release published by The Guardian.
And, yes, mice.
Thanks. I suppose that even if they can do this (humans would be much more difficult) what would be the purpose?
Gays were doing this research so they could actually create offspring.
Its pure evil. It's like those transes who are trying to breastfeed babies.
Hey, Prof. Volokh!
Remember when you told us that you censored me (no "sl_ck-j_wed" or "p_ssy" or "c_p succ_r" allowed, at least not when used to describe conservatives, and Artie Ray was banned for making fun of conservatives?) and said it was because of "civility standards" rather than because of low-grade, hypocritical, partisan censorship?
Are you still trying to stick with that story? "Civility standards?" Not viewpoint-driven censorship?
I hope you explain yourself before some people start to wonder about lies in addition to cowardice, hypocrisy, and thin skin.
Yawn. Another knee-jerk post by RAK.
Take the Carson v. Makin case. The State of Maine could not afford to maintain a public school for the two plaintiffs there (because of remote geography), so they gave out vouchers for private schools. The parents choose Christian-run schools because they believed that they offered excellent education in conformity with their value systems. The State of Maine said, no, you can only use the voucher in a “non-sectarian” private school. SCOTUS said that’s discrimination. Rightly, IMO. If you consider that an example of “special privileges,” then you are simply reflecting your anti-religious bias.
I just saw that the Pioneer Institute is suing the Commonwealth over a Mass DESE reg that SPED services can only be delivered in a public school or "neutral building" -- not in a religious school.
This is largely FEDERAL money that is provided to help kids with disabilities -- the rationale being that doing so makes them productive citizens who pay taxes and the rest. The children are legally entitled to the help -- so who cares *where* they are helped?
Again you seem bent on disproving Eugene's point by highlighting the Christian nature of all these cases.
What will you say when public money starts flowing to madrassas?
You cherry-picked the Maine case.
What about the "I don't want to do my job -- which is just to take a pack of pills and hand it across the counter -- because of superstition" cases? Or "I should get special days off that disadvantage my reasoning co-workers because of superstition" cases? Or "I am a snowflake who gets to disregard generally applicable health laws because I claim my religion requires that I be a virus-flouting knuckledragger."
Suing for days off for important holidays for non-Christians (i.e. where shutdowns for practical reasons like everybody is off on Christmas do not apply) was a Card Carrying Member of the ACLU type thing.
It is said that bad facts make bad law. In this case, it seems sensible to allow government money to flow to a Christian school because the state could not afford to provide a state service.
But rearrange the hypothetical: The state/county gives vouchers to all students in all areas, knowing that 90% of Oldtowne County is Christian and (based on polling data) that 85% of county parents will use their vouchers at I Am The Way Christian K-12, which requires 90 minutes per day of instruction in Bible memorization and hymnology, forbids dancing (Footloose!), and punishes girls for wearing pants or chewing gum (but not the boys).
Of course, the other 15% of Oldtowne County parents (who are perhaps against indoctrination of their kids) will use their vouchers on... what? a radically underfunded public school? inferior online learning?
So yes, Carson feels like a discrimination case where the Establishment concerns were weak. But the Court abandoned "entanglement" and "effect" as tests--implicitly in Carson and then explicitly less than a week later in Kennedy. Without meaningful Establishment guardrails, what keeps sectarian legislatures from manipulating all sorts of systems to strongly favor majority-favored religious establishments? Or are we prepared to let the majority tell the minority what to worship now?
Your example is a good one, and it can be taken further.
School board (or town council, whoever) in rural area meets to discuss building a public school, because getting students to the next town is a hassle, say.
"Wait," says local church (or two). "According to new SCOTUS case we can set up a church school and everyone can just use the state vouchers there."
"What about families that don't belong to your church?"
"Well, they can come, as long as they follow our rules, including mandatory religious instruction. Oh. And we're not hiring any non-members to teach. Otherwise, they can continue to schlep thirty miles back and forth every day."
I don't actually think this is an unrealistic possibility. Nor do I think it impossible that a town could actually close its public school under the new rules.
My point here is that we are talking about thinly populated areas where parents don't have a lot of convenient choices, and where a particular religious denomination is likely to be dominant.
This seems rather peculiar to me, in that if an area were large enough for two viable schools, and ran 50-50 Roman Catholic and secular, yeah, you'd tolerate funding the Catholic school, too.
But if the area runs 99% Roman Catholic, and there's just one secular family, tough luck, they all have to get the school that one family would prefer.
I really can't see this as anything but discrimination against religion.
No they don’t.
They can go to the Catholic school if they like.
Besides, saying, "We've got a Catholic school you can go to if you like. Otherwise tough shit," sounds a lot like an establishment to me. It's OK to violate one person's rights if most approve?
And I'll add a few other considerations. It's not going to be 99%, so what do you think the limit should be? And bear in mind that the schools in Maine were unwilling to change any of their practices to get the funding. That includes discriminatory hiring and mandatory classes in religion. Screw 'em.
Taxing away the money people would use to buy something of their choice, so that they can no longer afford to do so, and then offering it back, but only if they spend it on the choice YOU prefer, is becoming a go-to move for controlling people. It lets you pretend that you’re not depriving most people of a choice, because you’d permit them to spend the money you saw to it they didn’t have on your disapproved choice.
The federal government does the same thing to states, after all, and it has proven remarkably effective.
What would I do?
Well, I’m in favor of strict separation of school and state, because states run schools in order to have indoctrination mills, with actual education as just a side benefit. Which is why they’re so determined that those parents NOT send their kids to schools which admittedly manage the education side of things just fine.
So I’d say, “Spend that money on any school you want, so long as it teaches the following academic topics.” And if that means the atheist family living in an Amish community can’t find a school to their liking? Well, they can spend the money homeschooling, or move someplace where they like the choice of schools better.
Why is education the one product where secular people, and only secular people, are entitled to have their preferred product available, even if there aren’t enough people who share the preference to make the product viable?
Because the government is now, unofficially, in favor of secularism, and wishes to quietly suppress religion.
When they've got it suppressed a bit more, they can drop the "quietly" part, of course.
The only way universal education ever came about was through the state. Meanwhile, religous schools or state schools ran by religous were child abuse mills.
Bullshyte. Religion is why we HAVE public education. See:
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/old-deluder-satan-act-made-sure-puritan-children-got-educated/
No denying religous played a big part in establishing and running state schools, but we also know the horrific drawbacks that arose.
Chrisitans will be facing more and more discrimination. Especially as there are many more of them than, say Jews.
I'm not sure that holds, B.L.
If we are talking about government action then the size of the group, from some perspectives, may not matter. Take an extreme case: The government outlaws religious practice entirely. Would that mean Christians suffer more discrimination than members of other faiths, because there are so many more of them? I don't think so. I mean, more Christians are affected, but no single Christian is any worse off than any single Jew or Muslim. If that is too strange think about a situation where contributions to religious organizations were no longer tax-deductible. A random Christian suffers no more than a random Jew.
What about individual discrimination, say in employment? There are, obviously, many more Christians than Jews applying for jobs, so more are in position to be discriminated against. But there are also many more in position to discriminate. The effects could easily be a wash.
Suppose we have 100 employers looking to fill 100 jobs, with 200 applicants. Both the employers and the applicants are 90% Christian, 10% Jewish. Half the employers will only hire people of their own faith, the rest don't care. So 45 Christians and 5 Jews will be hired by the bigots. The remaining 150 applicants will be hired randomly by the other employers, and on average another 45 Christians and 5 Jews will end up hired.
So the predominance of Christians in the population doesn't matter here.
I disagree with this logic. If you let all 100% of the country discriminate against others, then the 75% (hypothetical) majority will immediately oppress the other 25% accoss all walks of life. The idea that the "lower" 25% can retain power will only be true in insular areas where they achieve a local majority. But assuming roughly equal distribution of resources at the outset, capitalism will disproportionately push resources to the side with the larger economy overall. Think about marketing, distribution channels, hiring and firing, banking, etc. Yes, you'll have a few specialty services targeted at the minority, but they will be limited to boutique status. The minority simply won't have the clout to overtake the majority in any area. That concentrates the billionaires in the 75% and sharpens the cycle of oppression as they concentrate the wealth further.
See, e.g. American history.
You mean like Jews, once banned from Florida, now own much of the state?
That's a terrific example. Can you think of anything that might have changed for them between the time of unfettered discrimination and now?
(BTW I'm eliding the "own much of the state" wag, because I think your point is that Jewish people have been quite successful in many states were they used to be an underclass.)
I'm paraphrasing a statement made by a comedian who is Jewish, so you can tone down the implicit hints of antisemitism.
And the generation that was successful predated the civil rights laws by a decade, it was valuing education and hard work that led to their success. A lot of folks came out of the CCNY in the 1950s.
Nothing I wrote disagrees with what you said.
I was merely raising an abstract scenario to suggest that "Christians will be more discriminated against because there are more of them," is not a very good claim.
Christians WILL be more discriminated against because there are more of them. Because, there being more of them, they represent an alternative power center in society, which government, in its eternal quest to take all power into itself, wishes to get rid of.
The smaller religions represent much weaker power centers which are less of a threat to the government's monopoly on power, and thus can be left for later.
What you're complaining about is US fundamentalist Christians playing in politics - like they've always done - and having more and more of their cherished and sacred prejudices enshrined as laws in states they control, and everybody else pointing out how bad those laws are and pushing back against them.
This is amazing and backwards.
We are a democracy, Brett.
Having a large voting population doesn't mean you are a threat to the government, it means you get to influence the government.
Your take here of 'we're weak because we're so strong' reminds me of Umberto Eco's quote, turned on it's head: "By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak."
Your argument isn't just wrong, it's barely an argument. Not falsifiable; more aesthetic of persecution than actual factual position.
Good thing no minority government has ever oppressed or discriminated against a majority population in the history of the universe, eh, Sarcastro?
Otherwise, you'd be completely wrong again.
By the way, when are you going to start reading some history books?
Bernard,
If you're talking about # of religious discrimination events per person/faith, then no it doesn't make sense.
If you're talking about # of religious discrimination events as an absolute number, then it does make sense.
Imagine a government official doesn't like religious people, and chooses to discriminate against them, in an area that has 500 people of religion A and 10 of religion B. So, he discriminates against all of them.
500 people of religion A have experienced discrimination. 10 of religion B. As an absolute number of cases, there are far more cases of discrimination against religion A.
there are far more cases of discrimination against religion A.
Indeed there are. But no individual of religion A suffers any worse than an individual of religion B.
It's worth pointing out the counterexample, in a place like the Ukraine, where Russia is actively engaging in religious discrimination and persecution.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-9-2023
You note that the majority of the religious discrimination cases are against Christians, despite Islam also being persecuted.
Likewise, in America, since Christians make up the overwhelming majority of religious individuals, discrimination against them by a large state-focused force would likely dominate.
"The issue is not simply whether there are many more Christians than Muslims, Jews, or Buddhists. It is also which group is most likely to face discrimination."
Ever notice how the gay activists have never asked a Muslim bakery to make a gay wedding cake? Why is that???
Maybe they have, and were never refused.
That's why they never shoot up a place when the child rapist Mohammed is drawn, they have such a placid sentiment.....
oh, nevermind.
Some do, some don't. Duh.
6 Christians just murdered inside a religious school.
Other people hardest hit.
And they made the tranny the victim.
Genuinely evil subhumans, these Democrats are.
Every. Single. One.
The liberal-libertarian mainstream will continue to stomp the everlasting, bigoted shit out of right-wingers in the culture war. Your bigotry and childish superstition are losers at the modern American marketplace of ideas.
You and the Volokh Conspirators get to whimper and whine about it -- and rail and flail, mutter and sputter -- as much as you like, of course.
Until you take your stale, ugly thinking to the grave and are replaced in our society by a better, younger, reasoning, nonconservative American.
You should try to be nicer to the victors, clingers, lest they stop being so magnanimous toward deplorable, half-educated bigots.
"I note that you omit Kennedy v. Bremerton and Carson v. Makin from your list of religion cases."
It's a list of religious exemption cases. Are these religious exemption cases?
“. . . religion that is centered around the use of a hallucinogenic plant . . . which is very far removed culturally and theologically from American Christianity.”
What’s the difference if the religion is centered around a plant, a diety, a pasta strainer, or a cult leader?
The answer is there’s NO difference and religion simply is a group of PEOPLE decided this thing (God, plant, whatever) will be the object of our devotion.
And they (PEOPLE) will make procedures to show how devoted they are.
And they will also develop consequences for the non-believers.
IT’S ALL GARBAGE.
And don't forget to pray for Louisville!
Thoughts AND prayers . . .
Well you know "Muhammad Ali Blvd" is always in the most dangerous part of town
Can you elaborate on that point?
Asking for a friend.
Named Volokh.
Nah, it's MLK's legacy. I've always thought that it was amusing that every city with an MLK Blvd usually ends up with an open air drug market.
I thought MLK's legacy was that better Americans kicked the bigoted shit out of lesser Americans and won the culture war, shaping our national progress against the efforts of right-wingers even in the most racist southern states.
No, it's MLK's legacy, or the Jews really, since they did the organizing for him, that blacks are perhaps better off under the law as equal under it, but worse off as a people because of lack of obeying the law.
Just some incredible Chirstianing here, chief. Really living up to Jesus's example.
Christianity is relevant here, how, exactly? Who said I am a Christian? You? How are you able to define what is, or isn't, Jesus' example when you can find just about every example from countless denominations of what they think Jesus would do?
So you're maybe not Christian, but willing to be as racist antiemetic and hateful as you can to defend a faith you cannot even attempt to live up to.
Even more pathetic than it at first appeares.
Fun fact: every city with a "Washington" street name *also* has an open air drug market. *And* a fentanyl problem!
Do you think it's George's legacy??? Far out man.
#themoreyouknow
Yeah, might as well call for more worthless universal background checks.
First and foremost, 1964 people died of opiate overdoses in Kentucky during 2020 (the most recent statistic I could find) and that is over 5 per day! The same number of people will die every 31 hours and it won't even make the news...
That said, the British press is listing this as a "disgruntled former employee" and that's where I sat this is part of the price we pay for the breakdown of the concept of rule of law. Reality is that unless you have a couple hundred thousand in cash for a retainer, you really don't have access to the courts anymore. So where in an earlier age a disgruntled former employee might be suing you -- and not be able to now -- this is the consequence.
I say this with the caveat of not knowing the situation -- maybe he was a few more things beyond disgruntled. I am noting (a) an injured officer and (b) how quickly the other officers got there -- that's an "officer in trouble" radio call, not a 911 call that will take 60-90 seconds before the first words go out on the radio.
I'm thinking an officer already there -- possibly a paid detail officer, possibly just there because of something which may have happened yesterday -- possibly even an officer who worked the overnight shift and was going to the bank on personal business. And sadly, some of the injuries may be from friendly fire -- bystanders *do* get hit...
But I come back to my point -- ability to access the courts is an important safety valve that the high price of counsel has removed.
Yes. It's clear that the family courts are complicit in violence.
As always, you know exactly nothing about anything. Stick to cleaning floors and trying to make every story in the country about Maine. Nobody needs money for a retainer to sue a former employer, let alone "a couple hundred thousands in cash"; these cases are 100% of the time handled on contingency.
If you go to an employment lawyer and are quoted any sum of money at all as a fee, it's the lawyer telling you that you have no valid claim of any sort.
Please wake up and deal with realty.
What you are essentially saying is that cops don't beat up Black people because Derek Chauvin is in jail. I forget which logical fallacy that is, but it definitely is one.
Have you ever wondered why so much of Higher Ed law comes out of OCR and not the courts? (Do you even know that?) It's because students and parents can go to OCR for free while lawyers are expensive. And only take boilerplate cases on contingency.
Have you ever wondered why people make fun of you all the time? It's because you don't know anything about anything, but talk as if you do.
As an actual, practicing lawyer — a practicing employment lawyer, at that — I can assure you that nobody with anything resembling a legitimate case against an employer has to pay a lawyer. They are all taken on retainer. Cases with fee-shifting statutes always are.
"And don’t forget to pray for Louisville!"
Don't be an a-hole. Expressions of sympathy are normal about things you have no control over.
It was a left winger tired of mere protests anyway according to his instagram account.
It's the "have no control over" part that makes "thoughts and prayers" from politicians so appalling. I believe apedad was making a point about feckless leadership.
"Please pray for all of the families impacted and for the city of Louisville," Beshear had tweeted earlier.
Democrat governor.
You know murder is already illegal, right? The politicians are not being "feckless", they don't have any control over it. The idea that one more law will stop murder is so stupid.
Apedad prefers worse than useless action, though. I'd say it was a classic example of "We must do something, and this is something, so we must do it!", except that that sort of thinking occasionally demands doing the right thing, while Apedad is fixated on doing a wrong thing, and isn't going to accidentally stumble on something that would actually work.
And what about the parents of the young adults killed by Chinese/Mexican fentanyl? Are they any less dead? Is the hurt any worse?
I speak from personal experience on this — my cousin lost a son to it and after helping bury his son, a few years later I was helping bury him. I have no doubt it killed him.
The death of five people is tragic — but the death of another five people from fentanyl is equally tragic, and ANOTHER five will die from it in Kentucky today. And ANOTHER five again tomorrow….
As an aside, there are Republicans now starting to talk about bombing the Mexican fentanyl plants. Yes, it's an act of war -- but it's also not the first time we've done something like this -- a century ago President Wilson sent 5000 US Soldiers into Mexico after Pancho Villa. See: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/VillaUncleSamBerrymanCartoon.png
The Mexican government is failing, we are being invaded, and I'm not so certain that this is a bad idea.
Escalate the War On Drugs? Let's see, since it has helped bring the US and Mexico to this very place, the answer must be to keep doing it, only more so!
It's just Ed doing an authoritarian nationalism again; no biggie. He already wants to machine gun them at the border, so pretty easy to move the dehumanization a bit south.
Only those crossing illegally.
It’s a misdemeanour.
Let's WIN the war on drugs.
Like winning in Afghanistan, right?
OK. So now in the District of Apedad, we can dismiss all Free Exercise claims as "garbage" because Apedad thinks religion is garbage, and who cares what the People of the United States enacted in the Constitution.
Next time, try actually reading and responding to the post. Hint: the thesis is that SCOTUS religion decisions do not only favor mainstream American Christianity. That a decision favored an obscure Brazilian religion that is far removed from that is evidence that supports the thesis.
Sheesh, talk about reading comprehension. . . .
I pointed out there's NO difference in the religions and that they're all made up.
Yup, reading comprehension is your problem. Just repeating your opinion on religion does nothing to address what the OP is about.
And so is yours, Apedad -- so is your lack of religion.
So would you like to be forced to practice mine? MY freedom to do so is your freedom to say it is "made up" -- which in Boston 400 years ago would have had you swinging from a tree. Heck, they even hung Quakers....
In what possible sense is not believing in a religion "made up"?
Get a negative reading on the depth finder when you're trying to make the harbor in rough weather and you'll believe in God really quickly.
So you just don't believe atheists are real.
How pinched and meager your faith must be to not allow such in your worldview.
In foxholes, atheism doesn’t exist. That’s like one of the oldest truism known to man, in various forms.
Ah yes. It's old and a truism, so it's not a failure of imagination or empathy at all!
No, it was Hemingway being poetic. All those foxholes in WW1 didn't really inspire people to believe in a God who would allow WW1 to happen.
They didn't HAVE foxholes in WW-I -- they had an elaborate network of trenches.
And my point is that zero is a number -- it is, ask any mathematician.
The lack of religious beliefs *is* a religious belief. It inherently is, and I believe that the law respects it as such.
'The lack of religious beliefs *is* a religious belief'
The formulation 'a religion without a religion' cancels itself out. Zero is a number with very unique and specific properties.
This confuses beliefs about religion with religious beliefs. A religious belief is a belief that some religion or other is, at least approximately, true. Believing that no religion is true is a belief about religion. As a famous physicist once said, atheism is a religion in the sense that not collecting stamps is a hobby.
I'm the last person to criticize obnoxiously strident antitheism, but I think you're missing Prof. Volokh's point. He's not suggesting that Christianity is more legitimate, respectable, or reasonable than the Brazilian plant religion, but rather that a Christian motivated by a desire to grant favored treatment to Christianity isn't particularly likely to be particularly sympathetic to Brazilian plan worshippers.
Sure, the argument was that granting favored treatment to religions with little resemblance to Christianity (Save in the only way that matters: Apedad dislikes them.) is unlikely to be motivated by a desire to grant favored status to Christianity.
But the enlightened Christian follows the principle that "You don't wait until the enemy is on your doorstep to fight him, you fight him while the war is still on somebody else's territory, so he never reaches yours." The same principle that had the communist founders of the ACLU defending Nazis' right to march.
So the enlightened Christian defends religious liberty, even of other religions, knowing that if offbeat religions are safe, likely so is Christianity.
Mind, that principle makes sense in a society which is a functioning democracy, where the first attacks on religious liberty are likely to be directed against unpopular outlier religions. I'm not so sure it holds up in modern America, which is less of a functioning democracy every day.
But the enlightened Christian follows the principle that “You don’t wait until the enemy is on your doorstep to fight him, you fight him while the war is still on somebody else’s territory, so he never reaches yours.”
That's...not Christianity. That's like some crusader nonsense.
I'm all for religious pluralism as a principle, but don't pretend it comes from Christianity.
Didn't say it comes from Christianity. I said that enlightened Christians adopt it as a useful defensive tactic.
I mean, I think of tolerance as a virtue beyond something transactional.
But if you need to think of it as risk mitigation, go ahead.
Gone are the days when enlightened Christians helped the poor and the downtrodden.
Sarcarsto -- it's actually Jewish theology.
"Im ba l'hargekha, hashkem l'hargo" -- Brachot 58a, 62b, citing Exodus 22.2
So, all things you dislike are the same thing, in as much as their only characteristic that matters is that you dislike them?
Now do Communism and Fascism and Islam and liberalism.
Well, communism and fascism aren't quite the same thing, though all totalitarianisms tend to converge on the same behaviors on account of being totalitarian.
Islam isn't even in the same category, as it's a a highly authoritarian religion which just happens to reject separation of church and state.
And, yes, what we today call 'liberalism' or 'progressivism' is a species of fascism, at least in terms of its economics. As I said, all totalitarianisms tend to converge on the same behavior, and modern liberalism has obvious totalitarian tendencies.
‘aren’t quite the same thing’
They’re not only completely different, they’re implacable enemies.
'and modern liberalism has obvious totalitarian tendencies.'
Your idea of totalitarian tendencies is not being able to say the n-word without people getting mad at you. Your idea of liberty is states passing opressive laws designed specifically to target a tiny minority of people.
I mean, this is a lot of words to say all things you dislike are the same thing.
Unless you have some wide gulf between totalitarian and authoritarian.
And Nige is right - obviously is a tell. When people use 'obviously' and 'clearly' it's a sign they're takign cognitive shortcuts to something they want to be true. Not always, but in this case? Absolutely.
Of course I see a gulf between authoritarian and totalitarian, which is why I use one word or the other as applicable.
Authoritarian regimes want to be obeyed on a finite matter of issues, and otherwise generally don't care what you think. As long as you jump when ordered to, they're satisfied. Living under an authoritarian regime is hardly ideal, but unless you're a member of some group the rulers have it in for, you can get by and live your life.
Totalitarian regimes don't just want your obedience, they want your heart and soul. They don't concede that there's anything that's not really their business.
I guess you could say they think the personal is political...
I don’t think your distinction exists. Rulers who demand absolute obedience inevitably begin worrying about thought in addition to deed. It’s just two different points on the spectrum of control. Look around the world today. The Chinese tried authoritarianism when they opened up their society. Totalitarianism has steadily crept back in. Look at Russia: Putin was supposedly satisfied with a docile obedient population. Not any more.
Brett Bellmore : “Islam isn’t even in the same category, as it’s a a highly authoritarian religion which just happens to reject separation of church and state.”
For the record, there were centuries throughout history when Islamic lands were far more tolerant of religious minorities and heretics than their Christian neighbors. While European Christianity was a horror show of inquisitions, butchery, purges, Christians persecuting Christians and both killing Jews, the rule of the Ottoman Empire or Muslims in Spain was positively mild by comparison.
You can find tolerance or intolerance in the scripture of both. Today the Muslim world is more intolerant (to the envy of our Christian Nationalists) but history could easily flip that around once again. It’s not inherent to either faith.
That's like saying that non-black persons don't / shouldn't care about the 13th Amendment. Racist idiocy.
Not long ago, there was an uproar about a black woman who was licensed to carry in PA, and drove her car to NJ, where she was arrested for carrying without a license. The so-called right wing was up in arms on the issue. That she is black did not diminish their outrage.
And NY and NJ are still flouting Bruen. They're basically pushing the limits, knowing that any case will take years to resolve. Of course, when a gay man was told he couldn't get a "marriage" license to celebrate his sodomy, the courts were quick to enjoin them with no appeal period
It doesn't have to take years to resolve. I still hope that the Court will get tired of being flouted, and slap down the states in rebellion.
I mean, I doubt there are 6 votes that want to do that, but it only takes 4 votes to grant certiorari, and once the case is before them, why not act?
I don't understand that either. I can understand why the liberals are okay with being flouted, because in their mind, the conservative opinion was illegitimate in the first place.
But why do the conservative judges tolerate it?
Because they're not really culturally conservatives. They're moderates who pass for conservatives in DC.
They're not actually all that fond of gun ownership, they just don't dislike it enough to overcome their originalist tendencies, so if a 2nd amendment case ends up before them, they'll uphold the 2nd amendment, at least more than the 'liberals' on the Court would.
That doesn't mean they'll go out of their way to get such cases, or be mortally outraged when the lower courts don't toe the line on this topic.
Chris Christie intervened in that case, as I recall. The NJ courts were going to put this single Mom behind bars for carrying a gun in the trunk of her car for protection, and the Governor commuted her sentence.
She got busted in Camden....a hop, skip and a jump from me.
Speaking of things that are equal . . .
Happy Birthday, Jesus!
Wrong holiday.
Follow the link and learn . . .
I missed it yesterday, so did He see His shadow or not?
It's worth pointing out the counter example to religious freedom, such as the religious repression utilized by Russian forces in Russia and Ukraine today.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-9-2023
Religious freedom for all denominations is important and critical today in America (and the world at large).
Thankfully, actual religious prosecution in the US is rare.
What we do have in the US is an increasingly intrusive state. That impinges on individual liberty, including often religious liberty. That's why the Smith case is potentially very harmful to religious minorities. I understand and even agree with its basic premise. But it ignores the fact that the modern state imposes itself on individuals and organizations to an extent that was unimaginable at the founding.
So, the two actually go together.
You need to ask yourself, why is Putin going after religion. You think he really cares what these people think about God? No. What religion represents is an alternative power/social structure, one not necessarily in line with Putin's concept of the Russian-pseudo Soviet state. Because of that, religion (or rather religions that he doesn't control) need to be suppressed.
This is a story throughout history. The church of England arose not because of real religious differences, but because of differences in the power structure. The King of England needed a church he could control. This is what happens with large, intrusive states. They seek to either gain control over a religion, and use it to dominate socially...or seek to eliminate/suppress religion completely (replacing its social control with some alternative social control mechanism. The Soviets did this, and attempted to realign their subjects towards love of the state.
The beauty of the United States in the late 1700's is that it unified several different socio-religious belief structures under an overarching Constitution that maintained the different independence of the belief structures. It allowed a diversity to exist. They specificially sought to exclude the type of state-religious structure that existed in the British throne at the time.
But what you get today is that the largest "religion" (or more properly a socio-belief structure) in the United States is not any one religion, but a type of pseudo belief in the state/elite/cause/party system. That is seeking to expand its sociological control by eliminating and suppressive alternative belief structures (much like the Soviets did). This was despite the First Amendment protecting religious diversity of beliefs.
Shutting down the churches during the Pandemic while opening the Casinos....was a obvious sign of this.
Where did Republicans learn capitalization?
Where did you learn to groom kids?
Why do you remain in the closet in 2023?
He keeps his kids in the closet, away from you, apparently.
All he has to do to keep his kids away from me is to stay in the desolate, bigoted, uneducated right-wing backwaters. Guys like me tend to stick with educated, modern, diverse, accomplished, reasoning, skilled communities.
Unless his children are smart and ambitious and therefore leave their can't-keep-up community, seeking the education, opportunity and modernity that must be found elsewhere. It's called bright flight, or brain drain, and would lead to those children joining the winning side of the culture war and renouncing the bigotry, superstition, dysfunction, backwardness, economic inadequacy and stale thinking that saturated their childhood circumstances.
As far as you know, which states have a net positive migration and which have a net negative one?
Red or Blue?
Where do educated, reasoning, marketable skilled, modern people choose to live?
Where do half-educated, gullible, bigoted, economically inadequate, obsolete people choose to live?
Some people can’t afford to stay in desirable, advanced, educated, high-amenity communities so they move to downscale, can’t-keep-up, Republican areas.
That's also why government schools have to fail our kids. They indoctrinate children in the promise of a utopia controlled by the State or wealthy elite bureaucrats and technocrats.
If they produced children with even the slightest bit of intelligence the child would look around at all the failure, corruption, waste and abuse and know the State/elites are incapable of bringing a utopia.
I mean, who other than a True Believer would look at $100B ten mile mass transit systems, $1B planes, $8,000 toilets, vets committing suicide daily, and say "I want these people to control my healthcare!"?
This is what happens with large, intrusive states. They seek to either gain control over a religion, and use it to dominate socially…or seek to eliminate/suppress religion completely (replacing its social control with some alternative social control mechanism.
Mental chaos. Illustrated.
"Thankfully, actual religious prosecution in the US is rare."
I don't think you can really say that. There's not a lot of persecution BY religion in the US, but there's an increasing amount of persecution OF religion. Why, the law the OP talks about is an instance, which is hardly unique. Then you have the rising number of church arsons. Or the FBI planning on spying on churches. (Canceled once it got out, but how did it get started in the first place?)
It's your increasingly intrusive state, which is on its way to evolving into a secular state religion which brooks no competitors. It wants to occupy every field it permits to exist at all. Alternative power centers are not to be permitted, and religion is a long standing alternative power center in society.
Bellmore, I am fine with free exercise of religion. I am not fine with alternative religious power centers. If your religious exercise prescribes political power, then that part of your religious exercise ought to get government review, with an eye to changing the applicable legal standards to the laws which govern politics.
No part of American constitutionalism supports any kind of government except secular government.
Lathrop, a social power center in this case doesn't mean coercive power, it means influence. Religion is one of the few things that motivates people enough that they will willingly cross the government, and that's the 'power' the government doesn't want around.
Yes, but for the sake of democracy don't let religion get too free: Israel
https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/travis-county-da-garza-responds-to-abbotts-pardon-promise-for-convicted-murderer-daniel-perry/
What's troubling, Soros plant Garza, is that you withheld exculpatory evidence. And the judge is to blame to for admitting prejudicial but legally irrelevant evidence.
No exculpatory evidence was withheld.
Read the affidavit from the investigator, you moron.
The affidavit was about the grand jury, you moron. The investigator testified at trial. For the defendant. He gave all the purportedly exculpatory evidence. The jury simply rejected it.
The normal approach is to let the defendant appeal, not bypass the courts altogether.
Isn't justice delayed justice denied? If you or one of your butt pirate friends was imprisoned pre-Lawrence v. Texas for anal sodomy, would you be content to let your case "percolate" through the courts?
If SCOTUS decisions where going the other way in not protecting religion, the left would be ecstatic and the right would be saying the court is "out of control." How do we know this.? That's what happened with the Warren Court and school prayer cases.
Yes, Warren Court religious cases were all about sticking it to Christians and promoting fringe religions.
The majority has a right to rule, as, you know, a majority. Imagine that.
Dunn v. Ray[12] rejected a Muslim death row inmate's claim about a right to have a spiritual advisor of his faith present during the execution, while Murphy v. Collier[13] accepted such a claim (as to a stay application) by a Buddhist, and Ramirez v. Collier[14] accepted such a claim by a Baptist. But, again, one of the prevailing inmates was a non-Christian, and it appears that the non-Christian inmate who lost did so because the Court concluded his claim was untimely.
This elides a lot.
The Court cited as its only explanatory precedent, Gomez v. U.S. District Court…, a 1992 per curium opinion which in part held, “A court may consider the last-minute nature of an application to stay execution in deciding whether to grant equitable relief.”
And,
there was no judicially noticeable evidence that Ray knew the details of Alabama’s execution protocol until a few days before his objection to this procedure was made.
Who, exactly, was untimely here?
There is more at the link.
With respect to religion this is like Obergefell which logically should lead to polygamy being made legal—judges just know to ignore cases involving polygamy and so the issue will never end up before the Supreme Court. A high school football coach that prays to Satan before games will never receive the same protections that a Christian coach receives because conservative judges will simply ignore a case in which the Satan worshipping coach gets fired.
Bruen is just as dumb as Heller but it won’t change anything because I agree only law abiding citizens follow gun laws. I do think it’s ironic Bush’s daughter cries about guns on NBC when the only reason her father became president was because of concealed carry helped him beat a very good incumbent governor. And the reason concealed carry was being promoted was because of a mass shooting in Killeen. And so not only did we get the worst president in history but we now have mass shootings fairly regularly…so totes worth it!
"very good incumbent governor"
Ann Richards? LOL, can I have some of the drugs you are using.
Stupid old drunk whose claim to fame was mocking someone who beat her preferred candidate like a mule.
Lol, you loved getting assraped by Bush/Cheney for 8 years…I guess that means it wasn’t rape. 😉
You are quite charming.
It's your position that legal concealed carry is why we have mass shootings? You're a fucking moron.
Agudath Israel of America v. Cuomo
IIRC, Professor Blackman participated in that case in an advisory capacity (might have been an amicus brief). I do remember him blogging about this case.
Just because he used the word "I" in every sentence doesn't mean he was involved!
Doesn't sound like him.
American Indians
Given current language this is ambiguous. Is this "Native Americans" or "descendants of people from the Indian sub-continent"?
Anyone care to comment on Walter Reed's cancellation of a contract with Franciscan Friars (Roman Catholic) to provide pastoral services just one week before Easter?
Why are taxpayers funding chaplains, pastors, and the like?
No access to pastors in your facility?
As I understand it, they didn't just cancel the contract abruptly, too close to Easter to find substitutes. They ordered the Franciscans to stay away, (Couldn't even provide the services free!) and transferred the contract to provide pastoral care to a secular military contractor.
Walter Reed says they do have a resident Chaplin, but he's in the process of retiring.
Dunn v. Ray[12] rejected a Muslim death row inmate's claim about a right to have a spiritual advisor of his faith present during the execution, while Murphy v. Collier[13] accepted such a claim (as to a stay application) by a Buddhist, and Ramirez v. Collier[14] accepted such a claim by a Baptist. But, again, one of the prevailing inmates was a non-Christian, and it appears that the non-Christian inmate who lost did so because the Court concluded his claim was untimely.[15]
The "untimely" claim to have an imam present was made 5 days after the prison denied the request and more than a week before he was scheduled to be executed.
The claim of untimeliness was just a pretext invented to dismiss the case, a pretext that never would have been used if the applicant was Christian (or at least, not Muslim).
It is in fact a perfect example of just how the SCOTUS bends over backwards to protect Conservative Christians (or Conservatives more generally) at the expense of others.
Another example is the courts repeated pattern of staying injunctions during the Trump administration while allowing them to linger vs Biden (Biden still can't end Remain in Mexico!!). Or allowing Texas to ignore the constitution with their abortion bounty (does anyone think a similar tactic would have been allowed with from the left?).
This Mifepristone suit is good test. Kacsmaryk's decision is laughably bad, and if/when it reaches the SCOTUS it will almost certainly be overturned. But will the 5th Circuit and the SCOTUS allow his nationwide injunction to stand in the meanwhile? The obvious answer is no, and it probably will be no, but there's a definitely element of doubt that wouldn't exist if the SCOTUS wasn't out of control.
Hey remember when the courts wouldn't let Trump end an executive order of Obamas with DACA?
A few big differences.
Trump's problem is that had the tools to end DACA, but due to a combination of incompetence and impatience they failed to use them (following the Administrative Procedure Act). Which is why the SCOTUS left DACA in place.
However, for the Muslim ban, they did let him act, largely because the US President gets lots of leeway with foreign policy.
But Kacsmaryk's grounds for keeping Remain in Mexico in place have no real basis (he held it up on the APA, which I don't think applies since the policy was implemented for an emergency). But more importantly, implementing the policy requires the administration to reach an agreement with Mexico!
But, why would anyone think they had to follow the APA to end a program which wasn't started following the APA in the first place? The program itself was an APA violation, why would ceasing the violation require jumping through the hoops neglected in creating it?
I'm confused, are you arguing that Kacsmaryk is wrong and that Biden should be allowed to end Remain in Mexico?
I mean, I agree.... but that position feels out of character for you.
Um, yes, as a matter of governmental structure. Obviously I think it would be bad policy to end it, but losing elections has consequences. Sometimes dire ones.
Well I still disagree with you in general, but I'm glad to see you have principals and not pure partisanship.
Bullshit. Judges never cared about following the APA or employing the "arbitrary and capricious" standard before. It was purely Trumplaw, and you know it.
They didn't care about it before because agencies followed the rules when setting policies.
Trump thought he could do whatever he wanted, put in people who thought (or were told to do) the same, and got slapped when told they still had to follow the law.
Speaking of out of control, Democrats are demanding the government ignore the courts ruling on the abortion pill.
What happened to my norms and my sacred democracies?
Actually Nancy Mace is a RepooplicKKKunt.
"Norms" and "civility" are weapons to be used against conservatives only.
There's nothing civil or normal about barebacking another dude while HIV+
A few years ago, someone posted here claiming that the Supreme Court, as then constituted, was biased against traditional religions -- a polite euphemism for low-church Christianity -- because Muslim, Jewish, and similarly exotic litigants succeeded in their free exercise claims more often than adherents of traditional religions. His argument was essentially statistical: the exotic religions won more often than the traditional ones. His analysis explicitly excluded any consideration of the merits of the claims as having any explanatory power. He was oblivious to the obvious point that the majority religion rarely discriminates against itself and is more likely to discriminate against the religiously exotic. The reception to the poster's claims was, at best, cool.
Eugene - it would simply take too much time and energy, time and energy that I do not have, to explain to you why and where your analysis goes wrong.
But I have to suspect that you understand that you're operating with a certain amount of bad faith here, making simplistic, hand-wavey arguments, in order to try to rebut a growing consensus that the courts are out of control. Which is something that any conscientious legal scholar ought to be able to recognize, on their own, without some random internet commenter to point it out for them.
It is so very, very tiresome, these days, that one side of every ideological debate is transparent about its beliefs, concerns and complaints, while the other side engages in cynical, specious arguments to minimize and dismiss them, which first must be picked apart and rebutted, before we can ever get near to a real debate. You do this. David does this. I'd claim Josh does, too, except that he seems to be simply too idiotic to be engaged in the more sophisticated obfuscation that his betters engage in.
Suffice it to say, Eugene, that this is bad. Execrably poor reasoning and analysis. I hope there is someone in your life that you're still listening to, who can tell you this, because for my part I haven't the bandwidth. You're going off the rails and need to be brought back somehow.
SimonP - I think I have to agree.
Like the whole bit on defensive use of guns by black people, he seems to be trying to convince people that anti gun-control rulings are somehow pro-black and therefore not Conservative?
Btw, 29% of white gun owners reported a defensive gun usage?? That seems ridiculously high, there's either some major inflation going on ("defensive" gun usage when there was zero need) or these people are extremely confrontational (not sure how much that's correlated with gun ownership or causal).
This whole article seems to be trying to absolve the court by asking the (mostly) wrong questions. Or accepting the fig leaf offered by the judges to cover up an obvious double standard (Dunn).
For instance, Whole Woman's Health v. Jackson flagrantly violated current constitutional law... and the Conservative Judges decided to let them use a loophole to ignore the constitution.
Not to mention the evidence that Alito leaked a decision in the past, and the revelations that Thomas has committed ridiculous ethics violations that cast serious doubt on the partiality of his judgements.
Oh, and DeSantis's punishment of Disney was a ridiculously blatant violation of the 1st Amendment. But are you really confident the SCOTUS would have backed up Disney if they used and the case reached there?
You do realize that accusing someone of bad faith arguments, while providing no examples - even going out of your way to state that you will give no examples - is an example of a bad faith argument?
Suffice it to say that your rant of unsupported personal attacks here is not an "argument" by any rational usage of the word. It's just a litany of complaints and insults, with the usual aside attacking Blackman for no reason.
If you actually had an argument, you would be able to demonstrate EV's "handwaving", "bad faith", or "poor reasoning". You can't, though, so you skip arguing at all and instead go straight to insults. And top it off with the usual "More in sorrow than in anger" shallow rhetorical trick.
2/10 - you do get one point for the non-horrific spelling.