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Federal Court Strikes Down Obamacare Preventive Care Insurance Mandates
The ruling is based on separation of powers and Religious Freedom Restoration Act grounds.
After the Supreme Court decided California v. Texas, you might have thought we weren't going to have any more significant constitutional cases about Obamacare. I certainly did. But recent events might have proved us wrong!
Yesterday, federal District Judge Reed O'Connor issued a decision in Braidwood Management, Inc. v. Becerra, striking down some key Affordable Care Act regulations that require insurance plans to cover various types of preventive care without any cost-sharing by patients. Technically, yesterday's decision only addressed some procedural issues, including imposing a remedy of a nationwide injunction. But it builds on an earlier September 7, 2022 ruling in which Judge O'Connor addressed the constitutional issues. In that decision, he struck down ACA preventive care mandates issued by the Preventive Services Task Force ("PSTF"), but upheld several issued by other agencies: the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices ("ACIP") and the Health Resources and Services Administration ("HRSA").
Unlike previous major Obamacare cases, which involved issues of federalism (NFIB v. Sebelius), textual statutory interpretation (King v. Burwell), and severability (California v. Texas), this is one is mainly about separation of powers. Specifically, Judge O'Connor ruled that the regulations issued by PSTF are unconstitutional because the members of PSTF - volunteer experts selected by the Director of the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ) - are "officers of the United States" who were never properly appointed in any of the ways allowed by by the Constitution: appointment by the president (if they are "principal officers") or by a head of department or a court of law (if they are "inferior officers").
Before getting into the details, it's worth noting that Judge O'Connor is the very same judge who wrote a truly awful decision in the last major Obamacare case (in which a group of red states tried to bring down the entire ACA by claiming that it couldn't be severed from the now-unconstitutional individual health insurance mandate). On appeal, the US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit ordered him to go back to the drawing board. But O'Connor never got the chance to do so, because the Supreme Court took the case and definitively rejected it based on lack of standing.
This history doesn't inspire confidence in Judge O'Connor's handling of further Obamacare-related litigation. In addition, it seems likely that the plaintiffs (a group of individuals and business owners who object to the mandates based on a combination of economic and religious grounds) chose to file the case in this court precisely because they knew they would likely get O'Connor (who hears almost all the cases in the Wichita Falls division of the Northern District of Texas).
That said, each ruling must be assessed on its own merits. And my tentative judgment is that Judge O'Connor did a better job here than in his last Obamacare ruling.
Here are key passages on separation of powers and PSTF:
The Appointments Clause lays out the permissible methods of appointing "Officers of the United States." U.S. Const. art. II, § 2, cl. 2. Principal officers must be nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.… But Congress can authorize the appointment of "inferior Officers" by the President alone, the courts, or "the Heads of Departments…."
A person is an officer of the United States if he (1) occupies a "'continuing' position
established by law" and (2) exercises "significant authority pursuant to the laws of the United States"... The members of PSTF satisfy both criteria.First, PSTF members occupy a continuing position established by law. Congress requires the Director of AHRQ to "convene" PSTF by assembling a group of "individuals with appropriate expertise." 42 U.S.C. § 299b-4(a)(1). Congress described the purpose of PSTF, assigned its duties, authorized appropriations for its activities, and insulated it from political pressure. See id. § 299b… Regulations lay out extensive qualifications for the members, who serve four-year terms….
Second, PSTF members exercise significant authority pursuant to the laws of the United
States. This second step "focuse[s] on the extent of power an individual wields in carrying out his assigned functions." Lucia, 138 S. Ct. at 2051. PSTF has authority to determine what preventive- care services receive an "A" or "B" rating. Private insurers must cover all services with an "A" or "B" rating. 42 U.S.C. § 300gg-13(a)(1). Therefore, PSTF has authority to determine what preventive-care services private insurers must cover…..Because PSTF members are officers of the United States, their appointments must comply with Article II. Principal officers must be nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate, while inferior officers may be appointed by the President alone, the courts, or the heads of departments, if Congress permits.….
PSTF members are principal officers. The AHRQ Director"convene[s]"PSTF, but he is not necessarily part of PSTF, whose members are otherwise "independent." 42 U.S.C. § 299b-4(a)(1), (a)(6). In that regard, PSTF is different from ACIP and HRSA, which are subject to the [HHS] Secretary's control…. PSTF is not even part of HHS, or any other agency… AHRQ has no oversight or supervision role over PSTF…. The AHRQ Director is appointed by the Secretary, but he neither directs nor supervises PSTF or its members.….
Because PSTF members are principal officers, they must be appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate….
Even if PSTF members were inferior officers, their selection would still violate the
Appointments Clause. Congress can vest the appointment of inferior officers by the President alone, the courts, or the heads of departments. U.S. Const. art. II, § 2, cl. 2. If the power to "convene" PSTF is commensurate with the power to appoint its members, then Congress arguably vested the appointment of PSTF members in the AHRQ Director. See 42 U.S.C. § 299b-4(a)(1). The AHRQ Director is not the President or an officer of the courts, so the only question is whether he is one of the "Heads of Departments" mentioned in Article II. He is not.
Judge O'Connor concludes that some of these problems also apply to regulations issued by ACP and HRSA. However, he ultimately rejects plaintiffs' Appointments Clause challenges to these agencies' actions because their regulations can be - and were - "ratified" by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, who is a "principal officer" duly appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate.
I am not an Appointments Clause expert, so could easily be missing something. But the above analysis about PSTF at least strikes me as highly plausible. This body is indeed something of a strange beast that doesn't readily fit within normal constitutional categories. I think O'Connor is also right about how ratification by higher officials obviates the issues with ACIP and HRSA.
Later in the September 2022 opinion, O'Connor also rejects nondelegation challenges to regulations issued by all three of these bodies, on the grounds that they meet the very permissive nondelegation rules outlined in current Supreme Court and Fifth Circuit precedent, under which Congress can delegate even very broad power to the executive, so long as it is guided by an "intelligible principle." I think O'Connor is right as to the current precedent. Whether things would change if the Supreme Court tightened up nondelegation standards (as several Supreme Court justices rightly want to do) is a much tougher question. We may find out if this case reaches the Supreme Court.
In the last part of his September 2022 opinion, Judge O'Connor ruled that PSTF's "PrEP" regulations mandating that insurance plans cover drugs that help prevent infection by the HIV virus violate the Religious Freedom Restoration Act when applied to those plaintiffs who object to them on religious grounds (because they believe the use of these drugs promotes "sexual activity outside marriage between one man and one woman, including homosexual conduct," and they further believe such sexual activity goes against the will of God).
I will leave this issue to RFRA experts, except to make the point that this is probably the least significant part of the ruling. Employers with religious objections to anti-HIV drugs are very rare, and workers who want coverage for them are highly likely to be able to find alternatives.
In such cases, it seems to me only right to let the religious objectors run their enterprises as they see fit, and let those who oppose their principles work elsewhere. Live and let live! I say that even though I myself have zero sympathy for the plaintiffs' moral stance here, and do not believe there is anything inherently wrong with "sexual activity outside marriage between one man and one woman." Whether Judge O'Connor's RFRA ruling is correct as a legal matter, is a different question, of course.
Some critics of Judge O'Connor's ruling argue that lifting the PSTF mandates is likely to be a disaster for workers. I am not convinced. Different workers have divergent needs and preferences. Some might prefer higher pay, lower insurance premiums, or greater coverage for other health problems to having the benefits mandated by PSTF. To the extent the mandates impose additional costs on employer-provided plans, employers will have incentives to cut pay or skimp on other benefits to make up for it. For some workers, that will actually be a worse deal than the alternatives that would exist in the absence of a mandate. Here, as elsewhere, one-size-fits-all mandates are generally a bad idea.
Both sides will almost certainly appeal the parts of this ruling they lost. As the case continues, it's worth keeping in mind an issue I highlighted in my analysis of Judge O'Connor's previous ACA ruling:
I do not expect this ruling to survive on appeal…. [But] the history of ACA-related litigation is filled with surprises and failed predictions by experts. My own predictions about the original [2012] Obamacare case were right on some key points, but wrong on others…
There is, however, one important distinction between the 2012 ACA case and the current one. Despite repeated claims to the contrary by the law's defenders, there was never a broad, cross-ideological consensus in favor of the constitutionality of the individual mandate. From early on, prominent conservative and libertarian legal scholars and commentators argued that the law was unconstitutional. The issue was one that divided experts largely along ideological lines. Thus, judges could (and did) write plausibly defensible opinions on either side of the issue.
By contrast, expert support for the states' severability argument in the present case is notable by its near-total absence. Those conservative and libertarian legal scholars who have opined on the subject have almost all argued that the states' position is badly wrong…. Judges don't have to listen to expert commentators…. But lack of intellectual respectability does make it much harder for a controversial new argument to prevail, especially in a high-profile case like this one.
The plaintiffs' main arguments in the severability case never did achieve meaningful intellectual respectability. That was a key reason why they ultimately went down to defeat, and Judge O'Connor's ruling ended up a widely reviled outlier.
As the current case makes its way through the system, keep an eye on the reactions of expert commentators. If this O'Connor ruling is also met with cross-ideological expert condemnation, that's a strong sign it is likely to be overruled. But if experts start to divide along ideological lines - as happened with the Obamacare litigation that led to NFIB v. Sebelius - then things become far more uncertain.
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The whole law is unconstitutional, and our country's decline can 100% be attributed to the 15th and 19th Amendments.
So giving Black people the right to vote was a bad idea in your opinion. What's your view on the 13th and 14th Amendments?
Yes. They have an inherent hatred of whites, and always feel outside of America, not part of it.
I supported eliminating slavery, but I think the black population should have been repatriated to Africa following the end of the Civil War.
Repatriated? Most were born in America you moron.
"Most"?? are you a "Birther"???
So? Genetically, they belong there, not here.
“Repatriated”
Maybe you could self-deport instead? I fear your views on the franchise will continue to be increasingly out of step with most of the people in this country. You might feel more comfortable elsewhere… have a blessed day!
Of course, the easier fix to this whole mess is to get employers out of the health-insurance business in the first place. Kill the tax breaks and let people shop around for their own health insurance like they do for every other good and service - including other kinds of insurance!
I'm all for eliminating employer insurance subsidies for the reasons you state, as well as making it as glaringly obvious as possible exactly how much today's concept of "health insurance" (somewhat morphing into a health care subscription model) really costs. But as far as I know, individual plans have (had) the same mandated coverages addressed here.
I would get employers out of it by instituting single payer. If the polls are to be believed, so would most Americans.
single payer works great - just ask most brittons
same with canadians - whats the wait time for an mri or any elective surgery.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/categories/health-care-wait-times
And it just took me six months to get in to see a cardiologist right here in the good old USA.
Thats why I pay out of pocket, got my Rotator Cuff fixed right away instead of months of PT, bla bla bla,
"took me six months to get in to see a cardiologist "
That sort of a wait is certainly not within my experience. Within the last couple years I've seen a cardiologist, GI Dr, dermatologist, ophthalmologist, and new internist/primary care Dr all without excessive delays. No serious delays with diagnostics, either. My insurance is Medicare.
Any cardiologist? Or the one(s) you were willing to entrust yourself to, within a travel radius you felt was convenient?
If the latter, buckle in: that's exactly the sort of dynamic single-payer will amplify. Coupling unconstrained demand with artificially limited prices leaves limited options for a market to survive, none particularly good in this circumstance.
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"And it just took me six months to get in to see a cardiologist right here in the good old USA"
That statement seems highly dubious - unless you are in a very remote area of the US or if the cardiologist is in a very small sub specialty of cardiology.
As with all government organisations with massive budgets, the NHS is run largely for the benefit of its employees.
There was a time when it was the largest employer in Europe after the Red Army.
Opinions differ as to which giant state dinosaur was nimbler and more efficient.
No, the NHS is being run down by the Conservatives with an eye to carving it up and selling it off to their mates.
I wish all Americans had the same thing I was privileged with throughout my adult life: quality, relatively inexpensive, mostly socialistic healthcare. That consisted of:
1) Single-provider healthcare for 21 years, government-delivered in government-owned facilities by government-paid workers, in the style of the UK's National Health Service.
2) Then, another 20+ years Canada-style single-payer, but still supplemented by the same government single-provider.
3) And now, Medicare single-payer (Parts A and B) plus a no-cost single-payer Medicare Supplement and the same government single-providers (that last still provides the majority of my day-to-day healthcare services).
As career active-duty Air Force, that was, of course:
1) While active duty, military hospitals/clinics (including for dependents)
2) After AF retirement, TriCare plus VA, and military facilities (much at the AFA Hospital, space-a)
3) At 65, Medicare/TriCare-for-Life plus VA, and Madigan Army Medical Center.
Like many retired career military, my wife and I grumble about the disappearance of our promised life-long military medical care—while realizing, of course, that was never really in the contract.* If a true national healthcare system covering all Americans had existed when I enlisted in 1974, there would have been neither a need for recruiters to give, nor reasons any of us believe in, what was ever only an implied promise.
When that finally happens, future healthcare won't be a concern of potential recruits, and a separate military healthcare system—freed of non-core-mission responsibilities—can evolve and improve to concentrate only on military-unique, duty-related care. And within the next couple of decades (a time horizon that now seems shorter to me than it once did), I think we'll get there.
*(What we were all actually told was "here's what active/retired military and their families have received in the past, but that's not in the contract and the future depends on what Congress does.")
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7292524/
canadian wait times
more on canadian wait times
https://www.cihi.ca/en/wait-times-for-priority-procedures-in-canada-2022
If those polls are accurate, that feels a lot more like a function of nearly complete generational rollover since the trustbusters, rather than any sort of actual burning desire for a single, inertia-soaked, generally unaccountable bureaucracy making all decisions re compensation for and thus availability of procedures/drugs/etc.
“generally unaccountable bureaucracy making all decisions re compensation for and thus availability of procedures/drugs/etc.”
What do you think a health insurance company is?
A US health insurance company is at least periodically accountable to employers who have an incentive to keep their employees satisfied.
No such accountability exists in the jurisdictions that have tried single-payer. And you don't even need to look at overseas jurisdictions. Do you really want the same quality of health care, concern and efficiency that the VA doles out?
Rossami, this is just wrong. Jurisdictions that have single payer health care have accountability to the voters who elect the politicians who oversee single payer. And while that accountability is less than perfect, it’s just as good as the illusory accountability to employers you talk about. If health care plans all suck, what is an employer to do?
I used to represent HMOs. They're every bit as bureaucratic and unfeeling as the VA.
Sure, that's the "inertia-soaked" part. We'd just be adding healthcare to the list of massive bureaucratic fuckups that are oft-bemoaned but never fixed, like Social Security and Medicare. Our political system as it stands disincentivizes tough choices that -- with all the rest of their warts -- private markets make because they must.
"Suck" is a bit too abstract of a term to really engage. But barring market distortions like the one that prompted this post, it's unlikely that all competitors in a market will end up offering exactly the same product.
health insurance companies are also subject to lawsuit for denial of care. single payer has a variation of the qualified immunity protection.
Politicians aren't accountable to voters, lol.
Further, even if they were, they outsource large grants of their power to unelected bureaucrats who aren't accountable to no one.
“A US health insurance company is at least periodically accountable to employers who have an incentive to keep their employees satisfied.”
Lol. That’s funny.
“No such accountability exists in the jurisdictions that have tried single-payer.”
Other than routine democratic elections and ministers accountable to legislatures you mean.
“Do you really want the same quality of health care, concern and efficiency that the VA doles out?“
That’s not a single-payer national insurance plan. That’s a single provider like the NHS where the government directly provides the healthcare.
The VA seems to have improved its reputation in recent years.
Yes, Veteran suicides have really gone down
to be "Perfectly Clear' (HT Milhouse Nixon)
they (Veteran Suicides) haven't (Gone really down)
https://taskandpurpose.com/military-life/truth-22-veteran-suicides-day/
22 Veteran Suicides per day (Yes, most with guns, they probably can't afford the rope to hang themselves with (HT Roosh-a Rope Embargos), Gas to Asphyxiate themselves, (Not Drowned, there's a difference) and while it's probably possible to Electrocute yourself with a Tesla, you have to have enough $$$ to buy a Tesla, and that "Harry Carey" method is really painful (If I'm going to end it all, don't want it to hurt)
Frank
Whose been held accountable for the COVID fuck-ups?
Anyone?
"If the polls are to be believed"
Issue polls are garbage, no exceptions.
So you keep telling us.
Bob from Ohio : "Issue polls are garbage, no exceptions."
I dunno. Decades of abortion polls showed Americans as pro-choice by a substantial margin. Now the issue is appearing on election ballots and what do we find? The polls were absolutely correct.....
What you mean is that you don't like the results of the polls.
Issue polls are too easy to manipulate by content of the questions and if multiple questions, the order.
This is true no matter if the result is left leaning or right leaning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks
Yes, thought of that. Good illustration of the idea.
Who is this benificent “single payer” of which you speak ? Is it Elon ? Old Uncle Warren ?
The “single payer” that dare not speak its name is the sort of “single payer” that is worried about what folk might think if he used his real name.
Beware the Greeks bearing gifts. They used your credit card to buy them.
And how much of a savings do you suppose there would be just from consolidating everything under one roof? The government is already the single-largest payer for health care under a system that could not be more inefficient if it tried. Even without a savings it wouldn't even be that much more expensive; the bureaucrats who currently work for HMOs would just go to work for HHS instead.
Government, known for its efficiency!
How efficient and cheap are the purchases for our Single Payer Defense?
Why would anyone want the people who build $100B trains to nowhere to be in control of their healthcare?
"Of course, the easier fix to this whole mess is to get employers out of the health-insurance business in the first place."
The US federal government pushed employers into the health-insurance business in the first place. Not by subsidies, but via wag caps during WWII.
With labor scarce and wages capped, employers needed a way to attract scarce labor. Indirect compensation (including employer paid health care) is what they came up with.
Federal agencies have long brought in academics and technical experts to advise them on various issues. The judiciary has certainly done its share. A certain Professor Barett of the University of Notre Dame was appointed to sit on a U. S. Sentencing Commission. So long as appointed officials sign off on the ultimate decisions, nobody has thought this violates the Appointments Clause. And it doesn’t.
The idea that all involvement of academics and other outside experts in government matters requires formal political appointment, which effectively means all such activities must be politicized, seems an attempt to use dubious legal theories to effect a political takeover of the civil service.
The Roberts Court’s recent strengthening of the APA suggests a movement in the opposite direction. In holding that the manner of deciding whether include a citizenship question in the census violated the APA, the Court emphasized that Congress had established a regime whereby political appointees must consult experts and can’t simply ignore them. This and related APA decisions seem at considerable tension with the idea that the involvement of experts is itself unconstitutional.
Nor is there anything to suggest that the most recent appointees to the court, Justices Kavanaugh and Barrett, would be favorable to such an idea. Both have tended to be deferential to experts and expert opinion in their general approaches.
You are missing the point. In the structure above, appointed officials do not get to sign off on the ultimate decision. The rules are effective immediately.
The judge in this case was careful to distinguish the subset of decisions which were "ratified" by the head of HHS. That subset conforms to your claim - and was allowed by the judge.
It's ridiculous to declare a law three times upheld by the Supreme Court (a rather more important body than a single plaintiffs-selected judge in an obscure part of Texas) unconstitutional because the experts don't go directly through the Secretary of HHS. What does Judge O'Connor think HHS is going to do to determine what preventative care is needed? Make it up themselves? No, they'll convene a panel of doctors to do it.
Judge O'Connor is so far past his skis here he can't even see the mountain anymore. This ruling is a disgrace.
Different clauses upheld against different challenges. No direct bearing on this case.
And you are making the same misreading of this case that ReaderY did. Nothing says the HHS can't convene a panel of experts to advise them. The case only says that the experts cannot do more than advise unless they've been formally appointed in accordance with the Constitution.
It's pretty simple, really. If you're going to act like the government (and the judge determined that this panel was), then you have to abide by all the constraints and limitations of the government.
Even if the Constitution required that (and it doesn't) and we excused the delay and failure to bring the challenges all at once (and we shouldn't), it absolutely doesn't matter whether the HHS Secretary intermediates here.
And de minimis constitutional claims should be thrown out.
Also these remedies are insane. There's a reason that the court doesn't want to state the test for issuing injunctions (nationwide or otherwise). It would obviously fail. The Court doesn't consider: 1) harm to third parties and 2) the public interest, which are indispensable to the remedies analysis. Because if they did, no injunction could issue.
I mean look at the balance of harms here: religious plaintiffs feel better when they don't subsidize gay people or something vs millions of people not even in the case have the price of preventive care skyrocket. That's obviously not a good result under a normal remedies analysis.
California v Texas was even more ridiculous: plaintiff's feel compelled to buy insurance even though they don't really have to and there is no penalty for them not doing so. And the remedy for that is to kick millions of people off of Medicaid, make millions more eligible to be kicked off of their insurance plans for pre-existing conditions, and make millions more lose their insurance bought on the exchanges. That's fucking crazy. Yet that's what O'Connor wanted.
It's like a kid suing because his parents told him to go to bed at 10:00, so the Court orders the entire neighborhood burned to the ground so he doesn't have to do that.
I came in to ask about just that issue. I can't judge the legal soundness of Professor Somin's analysis of the case's reasoning, though I recognize care and detail when I see them.
Supposing that the advisory body is improperly appointed, what are the legal rules governing the teleport from that conclusion to a nationwide injunction? Lawtalkingguy mentions public interest and harm to third parties. There must be far more to say on the subject.
Northern District of Texas.
South Texas College of Law Houston.
Flailing and failing.
Carry on, clingers. With Reed O'Connor to guide you toward intensifying defeat at the modern American marketplace of ideas.
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Jeezo Beezo Jerry, that's as "Klinger Kountry" as you can get,
Frank
And all of this because John Roberts decided to be a politician rather than a judge.
Chief Justice Roberts correctly figured out that the statute was obviously constitutional as an exercise of taxing power.
Republicans won a big election in 2016 and had every chance to repeal the statute- but it turned out they couldn't write anything better and couldn't get it passed.
You can tax people for not participating in economic activity?
It's absurd on its face.
Fortunately, the Justices on the Supreme Court, who are smart enough to understand that this is a tax, have this decision and you don't.
This is an interesting point. John Roberts is a moderating factor on the Supreme Court but may no longer have the power affect moderation. The Court opened a can of worms with its repeal of Roe and killing the ACA would have much the same national effect. The ACA has become much more popular in the years since its passage. This is helped by the failure of the Republicans to offer an alternative plan. People will not take kindly to taking it away.
You disagree with a judicial opinion, which means you support every dumbass judicial opinion with an end you agree with?
Pretty shit way to rationalize being an open tool devoid of integrity.
Federal Court Strikes Down Obamacare Preventive Care Insurance Mandates
Save us non-lawyers the trouble. Put all the 5th Circuit stuff in the headline, thus:
Fifth Circuit Judge Strikes Down Obamacare Preventive Care Insurance Mandates
My mouse only has so many clicks in it. I shouldn’t have to use them up confirming the obvious.
He's not a Fifth Circuit Judge, he is a District Court judge.
We love democracy! Until we don't!
50.1% Democracy should be able to put certain things beyond easy reach of 50.1% democracy!
But 75% democracy should not be able to put things beyond the reach of 50.1% democracy. In that case, one stands on the floor of the senate, a tear rolling down one's eye, about the thwarting of democracy by democracy. Which we love! Until we don't!
All I need to know about "Obama(don't)-Care" is that Congress exempted themselves from it. Find me a Representative/Senator who buys a plan on "the Exchange". Why should they? Tell me again how many Veterans kill themselves every day while that Fat Fuck Fetterman (FFF) takes up a Substance Abuse Treatment bed at Walter Reed?
Frank
I used to think that Stephen Miller was the only Jew in the KKK.
You should have stopped at "I used to think" Because if you did, you'd know the KKK was and is an arm of the DemoKKKrat Party, even had a member in the US Senate, Robert KKK Bird.
Sorry not all of us "Members of the Tribe" worship Larry Tribe (get it?) and at least Hitler was honest about what he wanted (and did) to us, unlike that Race Criminal "Reverend" Al Sharpton (who I did vote for, in the 2004 DemoKKKrat primary as a Goof) and Representatives Mullah-Omar, Pramila Slap-a-Jap, Ra-shitta Tijab, and Hakim (The Bad Dream) Jefferies,
sorry, 1939's not gonna happen again,
Frank "Take an I and an E out of "Shi'ite" and you get Shit"
Jeez, Mengele, calm down. You're going to hurt yourself.
Ok, carry on.
OK, don't forget to pick up your Robe from the Dry Cleaners
Careful there, Mengele. Don't want too soil your sheet.
Why a nationwide injunction here? Why not just a decision allowing the plaintiff not to cover plaintiff's employees as mandated?
Also, the only remedy a religious standing claim can support is a religious accommodation claim, carving out some sort of exception for the plaintiffs. It can’t support a remedy of striking down an entire program for everyone, even those with nothing to do with the plaintiffs. So long as they are accommodated, Valley Forge applies, and people who object to a program on religious grounds have no more standing to object to the program in general than people who object on non-religious philosophical grounds. I think the Religion Clauses have teeth. But so do the standing requirements. Religious people don’t get free-roving standing to challenge any program they think inconsistent with their religious beliefs.
It seems unlikely (the judgment was said to be issued separately) this judge attempted to issue an injunction governing any non-party with respect to the religious claim. The broader injunction was associated with a different (Appointments) claim.
As falls Wichita, so falls Wichita Falls.
It's kind of embarrassing (not sure for which one of us) that I came here to post that exact same thing.
I'm still ticked about the fact that the ACA does not cover vasectomies at all. They offer first dollar coverage for any and all female contraceptives.
Disclaimer: when my wife and I decided we were done, we elected a vasectomy for me because it's easier surgery. This was before insurances were required to offer first dollar coverage for either. Now, the one-sided coverage might be a line item in peoples' decisions.
-dk
Don't get the one sided Vasectomy, doesn't work worth a crap.
That's a good point. Incidentally, there may be nothing more off-putting than having a doctor working in the region of one's testicles and seeing smoke rising from the area.
Learned to do them in the Navy, the one Urologist was a Mormon, didn't like doing them, and had onerous requirements to get one,
not a difficulty procedure, Dr. Albert Schweitzer taught illiterate savages how to do them, worst part is where you clamp the Vas (or Ductus Deferens) and tell the patient "You're going to feel a little kick in the balls" (and that's with Anesthesia)
Got mine done by a doc who I'd done his (what?)
so far no runs, no drips (OK maybe a few drips, I'm 60) No errors,
Frank
I'm also 60, and mine seems to have worked fine. It wasn't too bad at all, walked funny for a couple days. Much less of a procedure than the wife getting her tubes tied.