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Private Employee's Claim That He Was Fired for Political Tweet Can Proceed Under California Statutes
In Surdak v. DXC Technology (decided Dec. 20 by Judge Stanley Blumenfeld, Jr. (C.D. Cal.), but just posted a few days ago on Westlaw), plaintiff claimed he was fired (1) because of his "complaints … that he was not being paid all his wages" and (2) "in retaliation for posting a tweet on his personal Twitter account and complaining that DXC's request that he remove the tweet constituted illegal censorship"; "Plaintiff's colleague filed an internal complaint about the tweet, posted by Plaintiff, which stated, 'I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years,' and attributed the quote to Lyndon B. Johnson."
I'll skip the wage complaint question here, and turn to the Tweet issue, which arises under California's employee free speech statutes; opinions applying such statutes are fairly rare, though this one struck me as noteworthy:
However, Plaintiff also alleges that he was terminated in violation of Cal. Labor Code §§ 1101 and 1102. "Sections 1101 and 1102 of the California Labor Code prohibit employers from interfering with the fundamental right of employees in general to engage in political activity." Couch v. Morgan Stanley & Co. Inc., 656 F. App'x 841, 842 (9th Cir. 2016) (internal quotation omitted). "Liability … is triggered only if an employer fires an employee based on a political motive." A political motive might include "punishing him for expressing political views contrary to [the employer's] or, by discharging plaintiff, attempting to discourage other employees from expressing political views different from [the employer's]." Nava v. Safeway Inc., No. F063775, 2013 WL 3961328, at *8 (Cal. Ct. App. July 31, 2013).
Plaintiff has offered evidence that his tweet was politically motivated speech: it is undisputed that "[t]he only reason Surdak shared the tweet was to educate people about Lyndon Johnson"—a political figure expressing a highly political, albeit a highly offensive, statement. Moreover, DXC concedes that it fired Plaintiff at least in part because of the tweet, and a reasonable jury could conclude that DXC disagreed with the political views expressed in or suggested by the tweet and wanted to punish Plaintiff for, or discourage other employees from, expressing similar speech.
Because genuine issues of material fact exist as to whether Plaintiff was terminated for expressing his political beliefs, summary judgment on Count 4 is inappropriate. See Nava, 2013 WL 3961328, at *8 ("If plaintiff was fired for his particular political perspective, affiliation or cause … so that it may be inferred that (as plaintiff alleged) [the employer] was in effect declaring that the espousal or advocacy of such political views will not be tolerated—then [the employer's] action constituted a violation of Labor Code sections 1101 and 1102.").
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From the absolutely impartial WikiQuote:
"I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years."
Allegedly said to two governors (whose names were not given) regarding the Civil Rights Act of 1964, according to then-Air Force One steward Robert MacMillan. As quoted in Inside the White House (1996), by Ronald Kessler, New York: Simon and Schuster, p. 33.
They're halfway there too!
How do you figure? The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was less than 60 years ago.
Lyndon Johnson's Republican opponent in the 1964 presidential election was Barry Goldwater.
I very much doubt that Mr. Goldwater ever uttered the word "nigger."
If you vote for the party that's willing to violate other people's rights in your favor, if vote for a corrupt hypocrite & demagogue like Johnson over an upright man like Goldwater (because the latter won't go along with such violation) -- well, you fully deserve the crappy government you're gonna get. Congratulations!
Equal time quote:
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
The perfect epitaph for Osawatomie John Brown, though 105 years late.
I met Senator Goldwater in 1984. He was very straightforward and direct. I remember that introduction very distinctly.
"I very much doubt that Mr. Goldwater ever uttered the word “nigger.”
You'd likely be correct.
"Goldwater ordered the Arizona Air National Guard desegregated, two years before the rest of the U.S. military. " wikipedia
Considering that Goldwater was a desegregationist and a co-founding member of the Phoenix NAACP...
How can that be? I've been assured that he (like all Republicans, only more so) was a racist.
Barry Goldwater was an admirable US Senator after he returned in 1969, but he was not ready to be President in 1964, mainly because of the Civil Rights issue.
No racist himself, Goldwater opposed the 1964 Civil Rights act on libertarian grounds, eg the government should not force private restaurants and hotels to serve people if they didn't want to. But here is the difference between a libertarian ideologue and a libertarian statesman. A statesman would have recognized that the abuses of Jim Crow were so pervasive that a little bit of government pressure was the lesser evil. Today, restaurateurs and hotel managers are used to serving Black customers without any fuss.
The five Deep South States who voted for Barry Goldwater in 1964 were not motivated by libertarianism.
Remember the Washington DC guy fired for "niggardly"?
The guy who just happened to use the word 'niggardly' in a conversation with a black collogue?
How hard is it to find yourself speaking to a black colleague while serving in DC city government?
I’m black, and I’ve used that word more than once. I’ve also had to patiently explain the ignorant – often well-meaning white people – that there is zero etymological connection between this and…whatever might happen to be passing through their minds at the moment.
Niggardly has nothing to do with race. It means cheap or tightfisted. Doesn’t it?
Certainly does.
But no white person just happens to bust out the word in conversation with a black person without understanding the implications.
Dude was older.
They don't now. We used to expect people to understand that different words are different.
Yes, and while the outrage is unjustified, the fact is that you'd have to be pretty damned dumb to have been alive in the U.S. for the past 50 years and not understand how ill-advised it would be to trot out a word like that, regardless of its actual meaning.
Ask Prof. Volokh about "c_p succ_r" sometime.
"Ask Prof. Volokh about “c_p succ_r” sometime."
Sigh. Still upset that he wouldn't let you call other commenters slurs like faggot, nigger, or cock sucker, eh?
The people using the vile racial slurs -- regularly -- at the Volokh Conspiracy are the conservatives.
Including -- especially -- the proprietor of this right-wing blog.
Carry on, clingers. So far as your betters permit, and so far as your bigoted, obsolete conservative thinking could carry anyone in modern, improving America.
Lol. You think calling someone a c_p succ_r, with underscores, makes it less of a slur?
You think educated, reasoning, decent Americans can not understand why this conservative blog publishes vile racial slurs so frequently, knowing it’s bigoted fans will repeat the racial slurs plenty of times?
Maybe the UCLA law dean will weigh in on this issue again, trying to illuminate this point for the dullards and bigots among Volokh Conspiracy fans.
Bullshit. Knowing some ill-intended zealot or slack jawed moron might complain is one thing, but no, I'm not giving up perfectly acceptable words because there exist evil morons looking to put the worst possible misinterpretation on things.
The conservatives at the Volokh Conspiracy see themselves as heroes when they repeatedly publish vile racial slurs.
The rest of the audience sees them as deplorable bigots.
Carry on, clingers.
Yes, we do because there are no "implications".
Well, except the implication that some people are ignorant no-nothings who don't understand their own language.
Assume my parents named me "Fuckyou," and put aside for now what the hell's wrong with them. When I meet you, you introduce yourself and ask my name, I'd have to be seriously empathy-challenged not to expect you to draw a belligerent inference from my implication-free answer. Knowing that, giving my name without first explaining it would make me an asshole. So too with saying niggardly to a black person.
Allowing for how our words are likely to be heard is simple courtesy. There's no law against being rude. It just makes one an asshole.
These folks are assholes.
Bigots. Racists. Incels. Misogynists. White Christian nationalists. Gay-bashers. Immigrant-haters. Gun nuts. White supremacists. Republicans. Antisemites. Federalist Society members. Culture war casualties. Islamophobes. Obsolete, disaffected losers.
This blog doesn’t use vile racial slurs by happenstance. It uses them frequently, and with purpose.
“Since I don’t understand what you’ve said, I’m going to treat it as fighting words”.
I cannot see any problems with this way of dealing with epidemic illiteracy.
Right, failing to consider that "fuck you" may be my name is a sure sign of illiteracy.
Getting outraged over mis-hearing something is far more rude. I do not consider it tolerable to impose any rule that forces us all down to the lowest common denominator. If your ignorance makes you wrongly outraged over something you think I said but didn't, you are still the one who is wrongly outraged.
The guy who used "niggardly" should never have apologized. The apologies should have been demanded of the people who were actually wrong. You are correct that there's no law against being rude - I just disagree with you about who was actually being rude in that situation.
IMO where the rudeness lies is embodied in my hypothetical, which I'm sorry you didn't engage.
I supported the DC employee who got in trouble for using the word correctly in the 1980s. But, as a white guy, I would not say the word aloud today. As President Obama said in a different context, if you have to spend 10 minutes explaining to people that your slogan does not mean what they think it means, then maybe you should choose a different slogan. The word should be acceptable in written form, where anyone with intelligence and goodwill can google it before becoming alarmed, but why bother?
Rossami, have you ever heard of Muphry's Law?
You should have been in Dallas in 2008 when city commissioner Ken Mayfield (who is white) used the term "black hole" (as in a quantum singularity) in a council meeting to describe the county's Central Collections office, because important paperwork had a tendency to just disappear there. Fellow commissioner John Wiley Price (who is black and a professional race-hustler)...who was clearly ignorant of the well-known-to-even-most-laymen meaning of the term, though he pretended to not be after later being informed of his stupidity...flew off the handle demanding an apology, accusing Mayfield of using racist language and just being a racist in general. He later attempted to further rationalize his stupidity by declaring "Angle Food Cake" and "Devil's Food Cake" to be racist as well.
"Angle Food Cake"? Did he think geometry is racist?
It's John Wiley Price. He was baiting it up when I lived in Dallas in the '80s. No logic required.
My dyslexic typing notwithstanding....
My dyslexic typing notwithstanding….
...he seemed to think that physics is racist, so I wouldn't presume that geometry is immune to such a charge.
"The guy who just happened to use the word ‘niggardly’ in a conversation with a black collogue?"
Lesson: avoid speaking to the special people because dishonest people might insinuate nonsense in order to attack you when you do.
Yeah, that tweet…….
Did LBJ really say that? I’d hope not but on the other hand I can totally believe he did.
I’m normally a strong free speech guy but I wouldn’t want to work with this guy either.
The evidence is pretty strong that he did.
And by all accounts, yeah, LBJ was a pretty awful guy to work for.
Yeah I’ve heard the stories of him having staff come with him into the restroom so he could proudly show them how big his dick was. Dude was a real peach.
LBJ also predicted that his Civil Rights bills would lose the South for Democrats for a comparable lenglh of time.
Yep, check my cite at the top.
As a character reference, this is about one of his earlier 'victories' in Texas:
The runoff vote count, handled by the Democratic State Central Committee, took a week. Johnson was announced the winner by 87 votes out of 988,295, an extremely narrow margin of victory. However, Johnson's victory was based on 200 "patently fraudulent"[54]: 608 ballots reported six days after the election from Box 13 in Jim Wells County, in an area dominated by political boss George Parr. The added names were in alphabetical order and written with the same pen and handwriting, following at the end of the list of voters.
Not much has changed with regard to Dem district voting...
Before 1964, LBJ was mocked as "Landslide Lyndon" because of that dubious recount. Presumably he was happy that his 1964 win erased the sting from that nickname.
"I wouldn’t want to work with this guy either.”
Anti-discrimination laws mean your preference mostly doesn’t matter.
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/01/06/connecticut-employee-speech-protection-law-might-protect-warren-not-indian-jenner-not-woman-meme/?comments=true#comment-9865108
How many other states have similar protections to California's for political speech
Interesting case. I was unaware of this aspect of California law. But I wonder if this exception will not swallow the law? A few questions, in general:
1. What if the guy had made the same quote, but without attribution to LBJ? (But, could, after being fired, show the same attempt to educate people about this particular political leader. E.g., he just forgot to give attribution in his tweet.)
2. Imagine that he had been fired for tweeting horrific things about the Jews. But, properly attributed the quotes to Hitler. (Or Hermann Goering. Or any other Nazi leader) They are obviously political leaders and were making (monstrous) political arguments when making the quotes. I imagine that this tweeter would also be protected, yes?
Imagine that he was fired for making horrible tweets about ______ (blacks, Jews, the disabled, Republicans, whatever). Here, he was original in his posts. But, he can clearly show (in this hypothetical) that he was merely trying to educate people about, say, David Duke…who is/was clearly a political figure. It is proving difficult or impossible for me to think of any dreadful viewpoint at all that was/is not held by at least one political figure today or in history. Seems like that gives license for California workers to say pretty much anything and be potentially immune from workplace consequences–as long as they can cover their tracks after-the-fact and explain that their online posts were merely educational in nature.
Maybe this is a good thing. Robust First Amendment and all that. But I expect that such an expansive result would be a surprise to those who drafted and passed this protective legislation.
I doubt those "expansive" results would surprise the drafters of that legislation at all. Making it harder to fire employees was their stated legislative intent.
You very well might be right. But . . . it's possible that they would be surprised (dismayed??) that it was so expansive that even really objectionable posts (ie, statements that [a] 99.9% of viewers would find offensive, AND [b] of the type that, when shared with others in the workplace, would invariably create significant problems for many or most or all coworkers.)
I definitely do not know the answer to the above.
"when shared with others in the workplace"
in that case the employer needs to plan his/her dismissal of the asshole carefully by giving enough rope that s/he can be fired for a legal reason.
How would one be positioned to use (or mention) a vile racial slur as often as this blog does? Is it a very special Google alert setting? A network of white supremacists who search for, then relay, the precipitates that provide plausible deniability?
Not to mention the "civility standards" by which this blog censors those who use mean words to criticize conservatives, yet acts as a matador with respect to vile racial slurs, waving through hundreds of them annually.
Prof. Volokh has the right to publish vile racial slurs, as he does more often than monthly. Others are free to spotlight the remarkable frequency at which this blog publishes vile racial slurs -- until the Volokh Conspiracy censors such commentary, that is.
Has Prof. Volokh or someone else done a post or article on whether statutes like Cal Labor Code 1101 and 1102 violate the First Amendment, or is there a case that discusses this issue?
While I know there's now a circuit split on the issue, seems like most 1A professors and lawyers believed that the Texas and Florida statutes limiting social media from banning users based on their viewpoints violated the 1A. Seems odd (at least to me) to say that social media sites have a 1A right to ban users for political reasons, but that a business doesn't have a 1A right to fire employees for political reasons. I'd think that that people would be more likely to assume that an employee represents his/her employer than that a social media user represents a particular site.
Without endorsing these California laws, the analogy is flawed. This is about an employee speaking on his own time on his own property, with no connection to the employer. The Florida/Texas laws are about users speaking using social media companies' resources. The Florida/Texas laws don't merely seek to force social media companies to associate with people they disapprove of; they seek to force social media companies to actually disseminate messages they disapprove of. The California law doesn't do the latter; only the former.
Fair enough, but is that distinction actually recognized in the law on compelled speech or freedom of association? That is, is the proposition that its unconstitutional to prevent a company from firing/banning someone for their use of company resources to spread a political message, but constitutional to prevent a company from firing/banning someone for spreading a political message without using company resources, a recognized legal principle?
Suppose the CA law was amended to provide that political speech in the workplace was protected, unless it unduly interfered with the employer's operations? Do we know, from the case law, that such an amendment would be unconstitutional?
Or suppose Texas and Florida passed laws saying that a social media company could only consider a user's posts or use of that particular platform in deciding whether to ban a user for political reasons? So someone running a Nazi or Communist website but who posted only mainstream opinions on Twitter/Facebook, or posted a dating site profile with no political opinions, or who used Paypal to run a non-political manufacturing business, could not be banned from those sites? Would such laws be constitutional?
Or suppose a group of Communists or Nazis (or gay rights activists) wanted to march in a St. Patrick's day parade, but they agreed that they would not wear any political insignia or carry any political signs, and instead would just carry signs saying "Happy St. Patrick's Day." Could the government force them to be included in the parade?
I tried Googling to see whether cases had considered the constitutionality of Cal Labor Code 1101 and 1102, but didn't come up with anything. I could use Westlaw, but obviously would rather not incur the charges.