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The Paranoid Style in Gun Control Politics
Bloomberg's "The Trace" fabricates a conspiracy about amicus brief writers who adhere to Supreme Court Rules
If you're looking for a website like QAnon, but catering to gun control advocates, you will enjoy some articles from The Trace, a gun control website founded and funded by Michael Bloomberg. In August, The Trace presented a conspiracy about the amicus briefs filed in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen. The article was reprinted by Politico. Will Van Sant, The NRA's Shadowy Supreme Court Lobbying Campaign, Politico, Aug. 5, 2022.
The 12-brief conspiracy
The Politico reprint of the Trace article opens with snazzy graphics. Forty-nine amicus brief were submitted in the Bruen case: "12 of those briefs were filed by people or institutions who had received millions of dollars from the NRA, a Trace and Politico Magazine investigation found. Only 1 brief disclosed the financial connection." According to Van Sant, "neither the justices nor the public were told that 11 of these ostensibly independent voices owed their livelihoods in part to the NRA." Let's look at some of his examples.
In 1991, the Law Enforcement Alliance of America (LEAA) was created by San Jose police officer Leroy Pyle. The then-police chief of San Jose, Joseph McNamara, was one of the leading gun control spokesmen in America. McNamara attempted to fire Pyle for Pyle's Second Amendment advocacy. Pyle ended up winning his case, thanks in part to the excellent work of his attorney, who happened to be the daughter of California Senator Dianne Feinstein. Later, Jim Fotis succeeded Pyle as head of LEAA, and LEAA received substantial donations from NRA. Although LEAA is apparently now defunct, in its day it advocated for the viewpoint of most rank and file law enforcement officers: skepticism about gun control and support for strict punishment of violent criminals.
In Bruen, an amicus brief was filed by The League for Sportsmen, Law Enforcement and Defense, which is based in Virginia. Van Sant's article reports:
"Those of us involved with the League have been involved in 2nd Amendment advocacy for decades," attorney Christopher Day, counsel of record on the brief, said by email in response to a request for comment. "The League is not affiliated with the NRA, nor received any financial support from them." The League is led by James Fotis, who for many years oversaw an NRA-supported effort to elect judges and state attorneys general who opposed firearms restrictions.
According to Van Sant, it was "shadowy" for the League's 2021 brief not to disclose in that brief that the League's president had, years before, headed an organization that received NRA grants.
That is not what the Supreme Court Rules say, nor should they. Consider some career attorneys at the U.S. Department of Justice. During their employment, they "owed their livelihoods" (Van Sant's phrase) to the DOJ. Later, they left the DOJ for private practice, and still later they wrote an amicus brief supporting a DOJ position in a Supreme Court case. Per Van Sant's theory, the former DOJ lawyers must disclose their past DOJ employment in their amicus brief.
A similar situation arises for former NRA General Counsel Bob Dowlut. He retired from the NRA several years ago, when he turned 70. In Bruen, he penned an amicus brief for the Bay Colony Weapons Collectors. According to that organization's head, Karen McNutt, Bay Colony paid Dowlut a "nominal sum" and his work was essentially pro bono. She said "I don't think the NRA was funding this in any way. And I don't think Bob was getting any money to do this." Van Sant does not dispute these facts, but he nevertheless calls Dowlut "shadowy" for not disclosing his former employer in the brief.
Then there's Stephen Halbrook, a private practitioner in Virginia. Starting in the 1980s, he represented the NRA in numerous cases. In those cases and others, he has compiled a 5-0 record in the Supreme Court.
While Halbrook has authored many NRA briefs, his amicus briefs in recent years, including in Bruen, have been on behalf of the National African American Gun Association. No surprise, since Halbrook has done more than any other scholar to research and describe the Reconstruction Era history of gun control laws aimed at disarming the Freedmen, and the congressional response. See, e.g., Stephen P. Halbrook, Securing Civil Rights: Freedmen, the Fourteenth Amendment, and the Right to Bear Arms (2d ed. 2010).
According to Van Sant, because the NRA has been one of many clients in Halbrook's private practice, he was "shadowy" for not disclosing in a 2021 amicus brief for a different organization that the NRA has also been a client.
Even former Solicitor General Paul Clement is purported to be in on the "shadowy" conspiracy. Clement, the winning attorney in Bruen, joined the board of the Bradley Foundation in 2020. Van Sant writes:
"In 2020 and 2021, Bradley made grants totaling $2 million to groups that filed pro-NRA amicus briefs in Bruen. Grantees included the Independence Institute, Kopel's Colorado think tank, which received $300,000 during those two years, and the Claremont Institute, which received $200,000 during the same period."
This was news to me, and unsurprisingly so since I don't work in Development. When the Independence Institute's staff are preparing a grant application with a Second Amendment angle, they do ask me for supporting information. I inquired about the Bradley grant and was told that $150,000 annual Bradley grants were given in 2020 and 2021. I was informed: "These funds are restricted to" particular other policy centers at the Independence Institute "and do not fund 2A work at all." "So this [Trace] article doesn't have all the facts." Van Sant had not bothered to ask us.
Van Sant traces his grand conspiracy to a January 2018 meeting of the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund. According to the minutes of the meeting, the Fund approved a grant to the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association for the case that eventually became Bruen. Like many of the lawyers named in Van Sant's article, I attended that meeting. NRA members can attend CRDF meetings, and before the pandemic, many pro-Second Amendment lawyers, including me, often attended the thrice-annual meetings of the NRA board and related committees. There, we talked shop, exchanged ideas, and so on.
But Van Sant sees something more. This January 2018 meeting was the birthplace of the grand conspiracy of the supposedly "coordinated" amicus briefs three years later in Bruen. A typical CRDF meeting involves presentations for several dozen grant proposals, most of them involving attorneys representing defendants caught up in unfair enforcement of local gun laws, ranges resisting attempted closure by local officials, and the like. The CRDF board then goes into executive session to consider the grants, and the visiting lawyers and other NRA members must leave the room.
As Van Sant accurately reports, I paid no attention to Bruen until the cert. grant in April 2021. Just as I paid no attention to a variety of other cases that were launched in hopes of eventually getting a cert. grant, such as Rogers v. Grewel (cert. denied 2020, with Justices Thomas and Kavanaugh dissenting). The cases I focus on are the ones I write about, or for which I write amicus briefs; these included two of the cert. petitions that the Court granted, vacated, and remanded the week after Bruen.
At least from my perspective, NRA "coordination" of amicus briefs in Bruen was nonexistent. I have written dozens of amicus briefs, and Bruen was the only time a side that I was supporting refused to supply any information. The normal procedure is that a party's lawyers know who the friendly amici are and share a list with other friendly amici. That way, all the amici can "coordinate" (as the practice manuals urge) by ensuring that the contents of their various briefs address different topics and do not overlap.
Van Sant writes, "the current disclosure rule doesn't contemplate the level of coordination that exists between filers and counsel for cases." Actually, in Bruen the level of coordination was zero.
The Trace pipeline to Whitehouse
The next time Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I) takes the floor to describe his imaginative conspiracy theories about amicus briefs, the recent article from The Trace will likely contribute to his material. Last November, Sen. Whitehouse used a previous article by Van Sant, about me, as part of his amicus conspiracy storytelling.
In October 2021, Van Sant apparently thought that he had discovered a scoop: the Independence Institute, where I work, has received substantial grants from the NRA Foundation. This is not exactly news. The Independence Institute respects the privacy of all our donors, and we disclose them to the extent required by law. However, if a donor chooses to disclose, we will confirm the donor's statement. For years the NRA Foundation has disclosed all its grants, including the amounts, in its annual reports and public filings.
The first law review article to note the funding was written in 1998 by Carl Bogus, a law professor at Roger Williams College who advocates for gun control. "Libertarian think tanks and the National Rifle Association (NRA) generously funded the research of activist authors such as Stephen Halbrook, Don Kates, and David Kopel." Carl T. Bogus, The Hidden History of the Second Amendment, 31 U.C. Davis L. Rev. 309, 316 (1998)
So when the Washington Post asked me about NRA grants in May 2013, I answered accurately, and the Post described the Independence Institute as "a legal think tank that receives NRA funding." As debate begins, Senate background check proposal for gun sales lacks necessary votes, Wash. Post, May 2, 2013. To be precise, the Independence Institute is not solely a "legal" think tank. We work on many issues in many ways, and legal work is well under 10% of our total output. In response to other media queries about NRA donations, Independence Institute President Jon Caldara has repeatedly stated that the Institute is "proud" to receive support from "America's oldest civil rights organization."
In October 2021, Russian hackers broke into the NRA Foundation's records, and when the NRA wouldn't pay ransom, the hackers published the material on the dark web. The material included a grant application I had written. Since the Independence Institute making a grant application to the NRA Foundation is not new news, Van Sant created a fresh angle, claiming that two of my recent Supreme Court amicus briefs should have disclosed NRA Foundation donations.
In June 2021, I had co-authored an amicus brief in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen. The amicus brief was on behalf of "Professors of Second Amendment Law, Weld County, Colorado, Weld County Sheriff Steve Reams, Independence Institute, and Firearms Policy Foundation." The other amicus brief, filed in 2019 for New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. New York City, was on behalf of "Professors of Second Amendment Law, Second Amendment Foundation, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Millennial Policy Center, and Independence Institute." In May 2020, the Court ruled 6-3 that the New York City case was moot.
As I pointed out to Van Sant in an email exchange this summer, there was no NRA Foundation grant when I wrote the Bruen brief in April-June 2021. Yet he refused to correct his November 2021 article The NRA Paid a Gun Rights Activist to File SCOTUS Briefs. "Point me to the sentence that is factually incorrect," he wrote. The sentences that are factually incorrect begin with the first paragraph:
The NRA Foundation has paid an attorney and Second Amendment activist to write favorable briefs in Supreme Court cases, suggests a hacked document released on the dark web last week. Since 2019, that attorney has submitted two briefs backing an NRA affiliate in cases before the court, including one involving New York's gun licensing requirements that is being heard today. The briefs did not disclose the funding, allowing the NRA to buttress its affiliate's arguments while concealing the effort from judges and the public.
There are two falsehoods in this first paragraph. First, there was no NRA Foundation grant when I wrote the Bruen brief.
Second, the Independence Institute has never been an "affiliate" of the NRA. An affiliate has some sort of official relationship. For example, the Colorado State Shooting Association is an affiliate of the NRA. Therefore, the NRA Competitions Division recognizes scores from CSSA shooting matches just the same as if the match had been conducted by NRA itself. The think tank where I work, the Independence Institute, has solicited and received grants from the NRA Foundation. That doesn't make us an "affiliate," just as we are not an "affiliate" of any other donor.
Although Van Sant refused to correct his November 2021 article, his August 2022 article did include the fact that there was no NRA Foundation grant when I wrote the Bruen brief.
His decision not to correct the November 2021 article, which contains known false statements, violates the Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics, which states: "Acknowledge mistakes and correct them promptly and prominently. Explain corrections and clarifications carefully and clearly."
The actual Supreme Court Rules
Van Sant keeps shifting the standard that he claims to apply. He starts off looking for violations of the actual Supreme Court Rules; finding none, he invents his own standards and calls people unethical for not obeying his imaginary rules. Recall his attacks on Jim Fotis, who presently runs an organization that has never received NRA funding. Per Van Sant, a 2021 amicus brief from Fotis's present organization should have disclosed that years before Fotis led an organization that did receive NRA funding.
The Trace's Van Sant wrote to me in 2021 accusing me of violating Supreme Court Rule 37.6. That rule states:
Except for briefs presented on behalf of amicus curiae listed in Rule 37.4, a brief filed under this Rule shall indicate whether counsel for a party authored the brief in whole or in part and whether such counsel or a party made a monetary contribution intended to fund the preparation or submission of the brief, and shall identify every person other than the amicus curiae, its members, or its counsel, who made such contribution. The disclosure shall be made in the first footnote on the first page of text.
In the article that Van Sant wrote several days later, he quoted Sen. Whitehouse accurately describing the Court's interpretation of Rule 37.6:
The court itself, Whitehouse stated, has accepted a reading of "preparing or submitting" that is "so narrow as to encompass only the costs of formatting, printing, and delivering the specific brief in the specific case at issue."
For the 2019 brief and the 2021 brief, the costs of "preparing or submitting"—that is, "the costs of formatting, printing, and delivering the specific brief in the specific case," were paid by other amici, not by the Independence Institute. Any footnote 1 description of Independence Institute donors would have been improper, according to the Court's interpretation of the Court's Rules.
Van Sant's email to me had argued that a footnote 1 statement was mandatory because the NRA was a "party" in the above cases. In fact, the plaintiffs were the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association (NYSRPA) and individual New Yorkers. None of the plaintiffs have ever made any contribution to the Independence Institute. If the NRA had been a party and the Independence Institute had paid for "preparing or submitting" the briefs, I would have made a disclosure, as I did in my 2009 amicus brief in McDonald v. City of Chicago, which was consolidated with the case NRA v. Oak Park.
Van Sant's original theory was that disclosure was required in NYSRPA v. Bruen because one member of the NYSRPA board of directors, President Tom King, is also a member of the NRA's 76-person board of directors. In New York and other states, there are competitive shooting and training associations that are legally affiliated with NRA. All of these associations, including NYSRPA, are self-governing and incorporated in their home states.
Compliant with Van Sant's stated deadline for a response, Independence Institute President Jon Caldara sent Van Sant the following:
Mr. Van Sant:
The Independence Institute respects the privacy of all our donors and employees.
As you are likely aware, for years the NRA Foundation has, via its public filings, disclosed grants to the Independence Institute, and the Independence Institute has confirmed to media the receipt of those grants. There is no secret about this.
The Independence Institute, including David Kopel, participates in amicus briefs on many topics. None of our donors choose which cases we are involved in.
Supreme Court Rule 37.4 [sic, 37.6] applies to "counsel for a party…or a party." The NRA Foundation was not a party in either of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association cases. Neither was the NRA.
There are thousands of gun clubs and state or local associations that have chosen to have a formal relationship with NRA. These include the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association. By Supreme Court rules, these organizations are plainly not treated as if they were the NRA itself. If the Supreme Court considered them to be the same as the NRA for the purpose of Supreme Court rules, then these organizations would not have been allowed to file amicus briefs in cases where the NRA itself was a party, such as NRA v. Oak Park.
Sincerely,
Jon Caldara
President, Independence Institute
Meanwhile, I was busy writing articles for the Volokh website about some of the briefs in the Bruen case. One of those articles examined a brief by Everytown for Gun Safety. Like The Trace, Everytown was created and funded by Michael Bloomberg. My article argued that Everytown's amicus brief had chopped historical quotes to alter their meaning and had cited sources that, when reviewed, actually said the opposite of what Everytown claimed.
A few hours later, Van Sant published his article. It was headlined: "The NRA Paid a Gun Rights Activist to File SCOTUS Briefs. He Didn't Disclose it to the Court. Hacked documents provide a rare glimpse into the gun group's efforts to seek influence at the Supreme Court, which is now hearing a major public carry case."
Van Sant's article did not address his earlier theory that NYSRPA being a party meant that the NRA was also a party. His new theory, never announced in his emails to me, was that I had violated a different portion of Supreme Court Rule 37, which requires amici to disclose who "made a monetary contribution intended to fund the preparation or submission of the brief, and shall identify every person other than the amicus curiae, its members, or its counsel, who made such contribution." For the moment, put aside the fact that the Supreme Court says this applies only to printing and delivery costs, neither of which the Independence Institute paid.
Applying Van Sant's idea would mean that the Independence Institute (and, presumably, every other amicus organization) should disclose every donor in the first footnote of every brief, or at least every donor whose donation was intended in part to help with amicus briefs in general. This would include every donor who contributes to the Independence Institute, since our donors know that some of our work includes amicus briefs.
These days, grant applications, including for the NRA Foundation, often include a section for metrics, and so the Independence Institute's grant applications list all our outputs that can be quantified. My proposal enumerated the following quantifiable metrics: books, scholarly journal articles, newspaper or magazine op-eds, amicus briefs, media appearances on national and local television and radio and internet media, and citations in judicial opinions, newspaper and magazine articles, scholarly journals, books, and other media. The Trace quoted a political science professor who said that including amicus briefs among the metrics meant that I was supposed to list the NRA Foundation in footnote 1 of all my amicus briefs. But that is incorrect as a matter of law—as Senator Whitehouse accurately stated.
Rather than adhering to The Trace's fanciful interpretation of Supreme Court Rules, the Independence Institute adheres to the rules themselves. So do the briefs filed by Everytown for Gun Safety, The Trace's sister organization. Everytown amicus briefs never disclose donors, including donors who contributed with the intent that some of the donation would be used to fund amicus briefs.
Nevertheless, Senator Whitehouse took to the Senate floor on November 17, 2021, for another episode in his long-running series of speeches and poster boards about "dark money." As has been observed by the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Examiner, National Review, and Prof. Jonathan Adler's Senate testimony, Whitehouse's performances about conservative "dark money" are sometimes factually inaccurate, and always ignore the large amount of "dark money" that goes to left-wing groups, including those who write amicus briefs. Senator Whitehouse is reticent about his own benefits from leftist "dark money."
On the floor of the Senate, Whitehouse reprised The Trace's article, although without mentioning me by name. He excitedly described information that he had gleaned from "Russian hackers." If Senator Whitehouse were truly a sleuth, he would have learned such information long ago, by reading the Washington Post or the NRA Foundation's disclosures. On the floor of the Senate, Whitehouse did not repeat his statement to The Trace that my briefs adhered to Supreme Court Rules.
Not "donor driven"
In nonprofits these days, "donor driven" is a popular buzzword. That is, the organizational fundraising is geared to projects selected by donors. The Independence Institute is among the rare nonprofits that are expressly not "donor driven." We greatly appreciate all our donors, but they do not decide our projects for us. We do not file briefs, publish policy papers, or do anything else just because a donor wants it.
We pick the projects that we think are best for advancing our mission, which by our articles of incorporation is "founded on the eternal truths of the Declaration of Independence." In fundraising, not being donor-driven is a disadvantage.
We do not placate donors by altering our views. The Independence Institute has lost many donors over the years because of, inter alia, our opposition to corporate welfare in all its guises, to the excesses of the War on Drugs, and to tax increases and other wrong-headed (in our view) proposals pushed by leading Colorado Republican officials.
The same rules apply to firearms policy. While the NRA opposes "red flag" laws, I support them, provided they have strong due process protections. See, e.g., my article Red Flag Laws: Proceed with Caution, 45 (Alabama) Law & Psychology Review 39 (2021). I have testified in support of properly-written red flag laws in the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee (Mar. 26, 2019), the Senate Subcommittee on the Constitution (Apr. 28, 2021), and in the Colorado state legislature. I debated an NRA representative on the topic at a Mountain States Legal Foundation event.
These days, many people on the far left, including the gun control lobby, attempt to delegitimate all institutions and voices that they cannot control. The targets include the United States Supreme Court, and lawyers who present arguments to the Court that the hard left doesn't like. These left-wing semi-fascists, like their right-wing semi-fascist counterparts, reject the rule of law.
Historian Richard Hofstadter's famous essay The Paranoid Style in American Politics described the "heated exaggeration, suspiciousness, and conspiratorial fantasy" in America "that is far from new and that is not necessarily right-wing." Mr. Van Sant's conspiracy articles are part of an American tradition as old as purported exposes of the Illuminati in the 1790s and the Masons in the 1820s.
Without needing to fabricate a conspiracy, one can find a much simpler explanation for why Mr. Bloomberg et al. keep losing in the U.S. Supreme Court: Since 1988, Republican presidential candidates have won four elections, in part because they promised to appoint originalist Justices. Notwithstanding the fiddle-faddle of some writers who support the Bloomberg cause, the original documents overwhelmingly show that the Second Amendment was intended to protect a right to "keep" arms in the home (District of Columbia v. Heller) and to "bear" arms in public places (Bruen). A mountain of original materials demonstrate that Congress passed the Fourteenth Amendment to make the Second Amendment enforceable against the States (McDonald).
So I'll keep on writing amicus briefs on a variety of topics, including the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, and Eighth Amendments; the Recess Appointment, Interstate Commerce, Republican Form of Government, and Necessary and Proper Clauses; and the Colorado Constitution. And I will continue complying with the actual rules of every court where I file briefs.
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Bloomberg no doubt misses Earl Warren. Who could find a constitutional right in any handy penumbra. It is perhaps no coincidence that a politician (he was a governor) has never again been nominated to the SC.
Sandra Day O'Connor was a state legislative leader.
Potter Stewart was elected to serve on City Council.
Most of the justices since Warren had at least one executive political appointment (cabinet, US Attorney, political position with DOJ etc). Indeed Bret Kavanaugh was the White House Staff Secretary, a position given to people who are deeply involved in party politics.
Most of the justices since Warren had at least one executive political appointment (cabinet, US Attorney, political position with DOJ etc).
Personally, I would like to see federal judges chosen from among lawyers that don't have those kinds of jobs in their backgrounds. At least, not with appointed positions as politically partisan as many of the justices of the last few decades. Anyone that spent a substantial portion of their legal careers enmeshed in party politics is not likely to be able to set aside partisan preferences, and might not even want to.
It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
Not quite. A person that is paranoid believes that forces are threatening them when there isn’t evidence, or very little evidence, to support that belief. If the threat turns out to be real, that doesn’t change the mental state of paranoia into being rational until evidence of the reality of the threat is known by the person.
That is why the joke version of the saying goes, "Just because I'm paranoid, that doesn't mean that they aren't out to get me."
Well, true, but if they really are out to get you, it calls into question the claim that there isn't evidence.
It's pretty commonplace for the left to declare that people are "paranoid" for failing to ignore evidence they're up to something.
I hope the assertions here are better than those in the recent Natelson context.
It's somewhat of an article of faith among gun controllers that the NRA is the puppet master behind all opposition to gun control, conducting a vast astroturf operation for the benefit of the firearms industry. It's also the focus of all evil in the world, apparently.
Yes, it makes no sense, but it sure has been beneficial to the NRA, which gets credit for a lot of work defending the 2nd amendment that has been done by others, and a reputation for being far more principled in defense of the 2nd amendment than they actually are in practice.
Anyway, if you have any connection at all to the focus of all evil in the world, aren't you obligated to tell everybody up front, before you likewise contaminate them? I guess that's the 'reasoning' here.
The NRA could shut down tomorrow and the opposition that is attributed to it would continue, because the opposition comes from the people.
The people, many of whom are dues paying members of GOA, the 2nd Amendment Foundation, Firearms Policy Counsel, National Shooting Sports Foundation, etc. Let the gun haters tilt at the NRA windmill. The other grass roots organizations are taking their lunch money, in court and at the polls.
Still waiting for someone to remember the part in the 2nd Amendment that ties the right to a "well-regulated militia."
The descriptive clause that provides no restrictions on the "right of the people"?
“While the NRA opposes “red flag” laws, I support them, provided they have strong due process protections. ”
I’m having trouble imagining any due process protections short of a full criminal trial strong enough for this purpose.
“Such orders can be legitimate when fair procedures accurately identify dangerous individuals. Such laws include the following features:
• Petitions initiated by law enforcement, not by spurned dating partners or relationships from long ago.
• Ex parte hearings only when there is proof of necessity. [Can they ever be necessary?]
• Proof by clear and convincing evidence that has been corroborated. [How about, “beyond a reasonable doubt”?]
• Guarantees of all due process rights, including cross-examination and right to counsel.
• Court-appointed counsel if the respondent so wishes.
• A civil remedy for victims of false and malicious petitions.
• Safe and orderly procedures for relinquishment of firearms.
• Strict controls on no-knock raids. • Storage of relinquished firearms by responsible third parties.
• Prompt restoration of concealed carry permits for the falsely accused.
• Prompt return of firearms upon the termination of an order.
• Renewal of orders based on presentation of clear and convincing proof. [Screw that; Convict them of something in a criminal trial, or leave them the hell alone. At the point of renewal there’s no emergency anymore, and deprivation of a civil right is only appropriate as a penalty for a crime.]
• Not allowing time-limited orders to be bootstrapped into lifetime federal prohibition. “
"Strict controls on no-knock raids."
Try strict prohibition of no-knock raids.
There are rare occasions for no-knock raids.
Redundant. All raids are no-knock.
If you’re knocking, it’s execution of a search warrant.
You never can tell when someone is going to flush their AK-47 down the toilet when the po-po come a-knocking.
How about triple damages for false or insupportable allegations with a default 10,000 of assumed damages?
"A few hours later, Van Sant published his article. It was headlined: "The NRA Paid a Gun Rights Activist to File SCOTUS Briefs. He Didn't Disclose it to the Court. Hacked documents provide a rare glimpse into the gun group's efforts to seek influence at the Supreme Court, which is now hearing a major public carry case."
Using Van Sant's logic the headline "Anti Second Amendment Journalist Supported a Hack and Extortion of the NRA's Computers" would be accurate since he is benefiting from the information obtained by that hack.
I use the term "journalist" loosely, very loosely
How many leftist front groups can be traced back to Soros or the DNC? Pretty much all.
When critical information is unavailable, I try to suspend judgment about controversy. Let's get all the funding for all the alleged non-profits, and all the amicus briefs, out in the open. That way I could suspend another principle I follow, to apply extra skepticism against those who rely on protection for secret funding in politics.
Kopel should understand that people who really do suspend judgment when they cannot see all the facts, will on that basis not believe a word he publishes.
That was decidedly not your approach to the Sackett case.
QAnon has a website? Hot damn!
It would be fun and informative to trace out just the Bloomberg money spent on creating multiple gun control organizations - the Trace, every one of the Moms, every one of the Everytowns, multiple referenda campaigns, you name it. His money is one of the big drivers. And they all show up with professionally printed signs, identical t-shirts, campaign paraphernalia....
Setting all that aside, last week in coverage of New Jersey's latest new and stricter gun control bills, Politico noted (and buried, way down) a very telling fact: since Bruen came down at the end of June, over 300,000 people have applied for New Jersey concealed carry permits. (That's about 3.2 percent of the total population, more like 6% of the adult population) https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/13/lawmakers-pitch-nations-strongest-gun-bill-in-response-to-supreme-court-00061693
Which says something about the confidence level of NJ's people in their government.
Maybe it just delivers an estimate of the percentage of the population which has been carrying illegally.
Probably a serious undercount of that.
I wonder how many young men who worked late nights in Camden to support their families felt they had to illegally carry to feel safe?
Seeing prior to Bruen only about 3000 people in the entire state of NJ had a permit (including armed guards that could only carry on the job), I would think the answer would be just about anyone who possessed a gun outside their house.
Even as a kid I know a young man brutally attacked in Camden.
The right to carry is a right. NJ has always been a stupid place hence SJ tried to secede twice.
The thing to remember is that Democrats feel a natural kinship with violent criminals and support them. That's why they hate concealed carry. They want their pet criminals to be able to practice their craft with no resistance.
"Maybe it just delivers an estimate of the percentage of the population which has been carrying illegally."
You mean the percentage of the population which was oppressed by an illegal law.
Leftists blame the "gun" as a distraction from the obvious results of their socialist agenda. It is a lot easier to blame an inanimate object than it is to actually take ownership of the horrors you are directly responsible for conjuring.
There is also a section of the left that legitimately believes being able to defend yourself from an oppressed minority is in of itself an artifact of "white supremacy" or another similar inane argument.
Then there is the hypocrite faction that rails against private gun ownership but hides behind carrying private security or expect the police to respond within seconds of a 911 call.
When these people though say something like "no one should own guns" or "the goal is to end private gun ownership" pay attention because they mean it.
I tend to think there's a significant faction on the left that really do view an armed population as an obstacle to their ambitions. It really limits what they can get away with doing.
The sort of (scary!) folks who say that "massacring your people does not necessarily delegitimize a government."
https://reason.com/volokh/2022/10/18/tiananmen-square-an-enduring-symbol-of-the-chinese-communist-partys-illegitimacy/?comments=true#comment-9751119
"Conjuring" is exactly right, but I don't think it's what you meant.
Way too long for a blog post. So long, I won’t even share it.
Why does David feel the need to restate most of the content in the cited Politico article?
Just paraphrase it in a few sentences and write “look here for more. Now here’s my response.”
Also- Why is the Trace article mentioned without a link?
"The article was reprinted by Politico. Will Van Sant, The NRA's Shadowy Supreme Court Lobbying Campaign, Politico, Aug. 5, 2022."
Also- Why is the Trace article mentioned without a link?
Uhmmmm....
Yeah, I'm sure you were eager to share it.
Fisking requires repeating the statements you intend to fisk. But facts are not your thing, eh?
Apparently there are about 1.2 firearms for every person in the United States, including babies. So who's paranoid, Mr. Kopel: the gun control advocates or the owners of all those guns and rifles?
I don't have any need to be paranoid because I'm well armed, the gun is loaded on the dresser with no trigger lock, a few rifles loaded and ready a few more steps away, including the pellet gun for less lethal disuation.
One more reason no children should be anywhere near you.
Okay, groomer.
The gun control advocates, of course.
They're called "gun grabbers" by those less inclined to adopt weasel words.
"Gun control" is what you need to hit your target, not this.
We are not paranoid. The gun banners have stated their intentions.
By a similar logic, I'm terrified we'll go back to thinking the earth is flat; there are some serious flat earthers out there with clear intentions!
A flat-earther equivalent to Michael Bloomberg eludes me. Do give us his name.
So who’s paranoid, Mr. Kopel: the gun control advocates or the owners of all those guns and rifles?
The ignorance and childish mindset required to make an argument like that is mind-boggling.
This lawyer doth proclaim his innocence too much.
If you're innocent you can't proclaim it "too much". You have to contradict the liars regularly or they win.
I am not a lawyer but if the Amicus brief doesn't stand on the argument made what does it matter whether angel or demon made the argument??
Completely correct. Check the sources. That is what I did to Bellesiles and his sources did not check out.
Com now - if amicus briefs don't appeal to authority, why do they spend so much time establishing the authority of the authors?
Because judges are as lazy and weak-minded as you.
https://www.conservapedia.com/Michael_Bellesiles
A conspiracy to file amicus briefs. That sounds like a Babylon Bee article. Amicus briefs are about as important as the cover colors of Supreme Court briefs. (Yes, they have a rule about that.) Which is to say, negligible. If this is true, sounds like a massive waste of money by the NRA.
That it would be a massive waste of money on the part of the NRA is the first plausible argument I've heard in favor of it.
We are fewer than two months from the Sandy Hook 10 year anniversary. Twenty dead elementary school children barely wiggled the needle on gun control. Today, mass shootings get local coverage, maybe regional coverage, and cursory mention nationally. Mass shootings are no longer news. Yet we still have the usual collection of grifters, clowns, and propagandists clutching their pearls to dust over “gun control”? Of course we do.
Meanwhile, in Texas: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/19/texas-id-kits-school-shootings
Not surprisingly, you’re in agreement with those who are as ignorant and simple-minded as yourself when it comes to this issue (which you seem to be on pretty much every issue).
Really, that's the substantive contribution to the debate that you ended up with *after* you edited your initial comment? I would love to set the right example and give a thoughtful, substantive response, but I honestly wouldn't know how.
Sounds like Van Sant should be out there demanding that Jake Tapper begin every one of his newscasts with a disclosure that he began his career being paid to peddle Sarah Brady's lies.
Well, I have a life membership, kind of hard to not "renew" it. But they haven't gotten any more money from me, since the day at Philly they cut off Neal Knox's microphone. (I was 20 feet away at the time.)
Every time they call, I tell them I'm not donating another penny until Wayne is out.
"it was a given that the scholarship showed the 2nd Amendment was a “collective right”."
It was never more than a fad sweeping the legal community, and not even the entire legal community. There was never a time when a majority of the public bought that line.
Thanks for that. I had always wondered where that notion of the 2A as a "collective right," came from. Looking at it from the point of view of the arguments in Heller, it looked like a straw man, constructed to obfuscate the historical record on the militia clause.
"Collective right" comes from simply reading the entire text. The militia clause has now been erased.
"Collective right" was one of the most settled questions in American law, until the gun industry started funding "scholarship" in the 1970's.
Well, it was. Constructed by gun controllers in the early to mid 20th century, when they started to try for federal gun control, and realized they'd have to explain away the 2nd amendment.
They hadn't needed to at the state level, before it was incorporated.
It was an individual right as much as a state’s rights issue for control of the militia, as these scholars showed with plenty of 18th century data.
On what basis do you refer to a lawyer doing history as a, "scholar?" Same for a grocer doing history?
The data. None of the, "scholars," cited for production of that data have been historians. They have been lawyers in over their heads, doing botched history, of the sort you get when you pretend events which came later provide explanatory insight for actions done earlier. Or when you suppose as a matter of history that laws which applied centuries earlier, to a privileged subset of a population, in another nation, set precedent which applies to everyone, for all time, in another nation governed otherwise.
Real historians are a bit too snooty to be seen taking notice of gauche assertions like, "with plenty of 18th century data." Because I am not a historian, I can tell you it sounds hilarious.
"It was certainly considered an individual right by the adoption of the 14th Amendment for certain, as per those who wrote and ratified the amendment."
And not just them. Taney famously thought the same.
Again with the, "scholar," thing. Levinson was a lawyer, out for a fling as a tourist in the archives. When the subject is history, the scholars are historians—not lawyers, not grocers, not shoe salesmen—except in the unlikely event that any of those actually got trained to practice history.
It is a shame that so many Americans were not taught history as an activity practiced to infer on the basis of evidence which survives, passages lost from the historical record which did not survive. That is what history is. It is apparent that what grade-school history taught instead was that history is about mysteriously-sourced narratives taught for purposes of indoctrination. A corollary is apparently a presumed right to fight without evidence over the narratives. Very few seem to have gone on after grade school to learn otherwise.
No, mad_kalak, you are not competent to do history, or to evaluate history, any more than Levinson was, and for the same reason. To do either takes training, and neither of you got it.
It did sweep the legal community, I admit. For a while. Makes you wonder what other fads they might yet wake from.
Went out and ripped the NRA sticker off my truck, I was so mad. All the Cincinnati reforms got undone that night. Then they got rid of the NRA's online forum to stop us from talking to each other about it.
These days the NRA is still more of a membership organization than any gun control org, but that's not saying much.
It didn't take him much of a tour to find evidence the collective rights model wasn't solidly grounded.
"No, mad_kalak, you are not competent to do history, or to evaluate history ..."
I wold tender that this assertion is a bit of an overreach.
There are numerous examples of persons throughout history who were not "trained as historians" - the criterion I assume to which you refer - who have "done history" and remain respected for their efforts. Just a few examples are Locke, Montesquieu, and our James Madison. (Alexander Hamilton, in some of his Federalist Papers contributions, did likewise.)
The action of "evaluating history" is even more accessible. You don't suggest, do you, that no reader of historical works, conducted and submitted by credentialed scholars, should question the scope of evidence upon which he or she relies and he conclusions drawn by the historian? This would constitute intellectual slavery.
I acknowledge that there may be many who superficially and selectively adopt certain anecdotes or sets of anecdotes to assert an absolute truth. But persons other than those in academia are certainly capable, if they conduct an intensive effort, of investigating narrow historical issues.
Does the AHA pay you for your absurd attempts at gatekeeping something that isn't nearly as esoteric as you pretend it is?
Also, it's sort of weird for something who thinks that he can look at a few satellite photos and be a hydrologist to be gatekeeping anything. (Not to mention someone who thinks he's a copyright expert because he published a newspaper.)
You seem disaffected across the board, Mr. Bellmore.
I think it's you, not the board.
You've brought up the failings of 2A lawyers as historians, but when are the true historians submitting expertise laden rebuttals in court? There's been a plethora of post Bruen court cases, and the various states' history-based supporting papers for gun rights infringement is noticeably thin.
'Real historians are a bit too snooty to be seen taking notice of gauche assertions like, “with plenty of 18th century data.”'
Marxism was an attempt at history and is still largely relied upon by many historians as if its underpinnings are "data" from the 18th century. Snooty, maybe, unconcerned with having a large amount of data, no.
Originalism?
Wasn't a court filing, but an excellent article on 2A as a matter of original public meaning was written by David Thomas Konig in 2012: "WHY THE SECOND AMENDMENT HAS A PREAMBLE:
ORIGINAL PUBLIC MEANING AND THE POLITICAL CULTURE
OF WRITTEN CONSTITUTIONS IN REVOLUTIONARY AMERICA"
http://ssrn.com/abstract=2084443
Grifhunter — It's a good question. I think the answer is two-fold.
First, and probably most important, good historians generally suppose it is not possible to ransack the historical record for evidence to decide modern policy questions. They think trying to do that creates intellectual contradictions which in turn misconstrue history. They ask in effect, "How can opinions of people who knew nothing at all about today's context, be applied with validity to modern situations unimaginable to the long-dead sources you plan to query?"
You see, the historian's job is to cultivate sensitivity to how the context of the times and places they study inflects the meaning of the record which survives. You boggle the mind of someone who thinks that way if you demand they substitute instead a present-day context which sources they study never encountered.
More vividly, to mention a real incident which may be on point, the great American historian Edmund Morgan addressed a seminar I attended, about an incident he recalled. A professor from some other discipline had approached Morgan with a form to fill out. A glance showed the form queried views about various modern positions of political interest. The colleague suggested Morgan could fill out the form repeatedly, entering answers in the voices of various historical figures. Morgan demurred. "You can't do that," he replied.
As Morgan explained to the seminar members, he meant it was impossible to do, not merely that it was wrong to do. Historical analysis which was impossible for Edmund Morgan will not likely be accomplished successfully by someone from some other discipline.
Note that kind of thinking about history tacitly critiques originalism as unworkable. So that is the first reason.
The second reason is pure ivory tower stuff. Historians may work and write for the public at large, or they may not. But they are always mindful that their professional standing depends on opinions other historians form about their work. They find that standard of judgment congenial and just, and see no reason to widen the circle of critics to include historical incompetents with historically ulterior motives. The best historians know how difficult their work is to get right. They also know almost everyone who is not trained in the methods of history thinks historians practice an activity which anyone could do, if he wanted to.
Thus, few if any top historians would be likely to choose as a topic for study some historical issue which would turn out to be grist for modern controversy. I think they avoid those on purpose, so they can be left alone to work on topics they define for themselves, based on insights they get from reading the historical record, instead of from reading the newspapers.
If a lawyer wanted an expert historian witness to testify about gun control during the founding era, I doubt he could find any leading professional historian who would do it. That may explain why that kind of effort always seems to come from lawyers or professional gun advocates—who inevitably do the historical part very badly.
More importantly there was never a single federal court that bought that line.
But persons other than those in academia are certainly capable, if they conduct an intensive effort, of investigating narrow historical issues.
How do such people go about elucidating meaning in historical context, if they have not learned in detail the historical context? It is a common assumption among people untrained in history that if they read a founding-era document written in English, their knowledge of English will accurately disclose its meaning.
Such folks count themselves historically sophisticated if they have the wit to collect multiple historical usages of the same words, and try to deduce meaning by cross-checking those contexts. They never for a moment notice that their own analytical methods for cross checking depend on present-day intellectual context they grew up with. Which is almost always notably unlike the analytical method they would apply had they been one among the historical figures they wish to understand. So they get it wrong and never notice.
Do you want to know what founding era figures thought about gun control as we understand that issue? They thought nothing about it. No similar notion had ever occurred to them. Present thinking on that subject developed long after they were dead.
That does not mean guns went unregulated in the past. It means that premises and reasoning for regulation were based on factors relevant to then, and irrelevant to now. Nobody today thinks a would-be hunter considered unlikely to succeed at killing game should not be permitted in the field. To understand a Puritan basis for such a notion would take a modern gun control researcher far afield, into notions touching on colonial material circumstances, Indian relations, and even Puritan theology. And it would take the last of those to really get the answer right.
Every utterance, in history or in present usage, is notably inflected by the historical context in which it was made. Extensive study of a particular place and period is required to learn to apply context according to the standards used then and there, instead of according to standards used here and now. History is different than almost every other activity, because almost all the others work fine using only the familiar context of the here and now.
Here is a test you could try yourself. Imagine some historical venue, peopled by figures whose names and writings are at least somewhat familiar to you. If that is not already too daunting, then imagine someone comes to you, and quotes you a purported utterance from one of those figures you know something about. Your job is to say without research whether the attribution is genuine or not. If present context is all you know, you can only guess.
A historian can of course never know for sure everything that everyone may have written. But the historian has the advantage of extensive familiarity with thinking characteristic of the time and place in question. Most of the time, that knowledge enables ready identification of fakes. Contextual incongruities the fakes almost invariably include give the game away. It is damnably difficult for a modern forger to make up a fake Madison quote which will even for a second fool a good founding-era historian.
But the internet is replete with such frauds which non-historians find entirely convincing. If they are conscientious they look them up, and try to find some internet site which debunks that specific fraud.
If a person is incapable to identify by period-relevant context whether a purported utterance is an actual fraud, how likely would that person be to get historical nuance right? How many lawyers or judges do you know who could say on sight whether a purported remark from founder James Wilson was likely genuine or not?
Nieporent, as I recall I recommended to you Michael Oakeshott's essay about historiography, the one titled, On History. It is in 3 parts, and only 128 pages long. Get back to me after you have read it. I need your lawyer's insight into whether Oakeshott on history is not esoteric enough, just properly esoteric, or too esoteric.
Any organization that would allow me to be a member is too disreputable for me to want to join. Although a concrete invitation to join in on the graft could change my mind.
Although I have to admit when the NRA sent me a unrequested solicitation to join which included some window stickers, I put them in a couple of my stainless steel flasks because I thought it was a good look on a bourbon flask.
Likewise. I will not be giving the NRA any more money as long as the LaPierre regime is in charge.
No the militia clause has not been erased, it's atrophied.
But that's because Congress has decided that they don't want to exercise their Article 1 militia powers.
“Collective right” comes from simply reading the entire text.
Wheres "Individual right" comes from the ability to actually understand that text, an ability you and your ilk lack...no matter how many times it is explained to you.
The militia clause has now been erased.
Just keep repeating that bullshit for the rest of your miserable days. Perhaps you'll eventually convince someone...who isn't completely braindead...that it's true.
So, "yes, but daddy needs a new boat, so I'll gatekeep harder"?
The ironic thing about this is that Oakeshott wasn't even a historian.
But you didn't answer my question.
"But the historian has the advantage of extensive familiarity with thinking characteristic of the time and place in question."
And they'll still give a fraud like Bellesiles a prestigious award for a piece of fiction, and getting them to withdraw it will be like pulling teeth. Don't talk to us about how great historians are, we know better. To this day Emory has avoided acknowledging most of his frauds in that book, sticking to the obscure ones so they could pretend it wasn't obviously a fraud when he got the award.
Once again, this is all just self-indulgent wanking. History is just not the esoteric exercise you pretend it is. Historians are not priests with special access to divine wisdom. They read a lot about the past and become familiar with it. That's no different than any other form of scholarship.
The Miller Court had the right of the militia clause: It doesn't change who has the right, or authorize violations of it. It makes clear that the arms people have a right to keep and bear are military arms.
The current Court has lacked the courage to be that honest about the 2nd amendment, perhaps because they're working at the end of a long period when the gun control movement had been successful in rolling back gun rights, and the prospect of restoring them completely seems too radical.
But the last thing gun controllers want is for the militia clause to be taken seriously again.
gormadoc — I think you may have an interesting point, but I am not following it. Can you say more?
Want to know something even more shocking Bellmore? Edmund Morgan, one of the greatest American historians ever, who was particularly expert in the places and period Bellesiles lied about, endorsed Bellesiles’s book. When I first learned that, I was surprised. I had to think it over.
The explanation will not gratify you. I read Bellesiles’s critics. It turns out Bellesiles was exposed for misuse of sources—not for getting the argument wrong. What Bellesile’s critics accomplished was proof that his sources did not prove his argument—for the particularly discreditable reason that Bellesiles was lying. The critics then went on without much justification to suggest that showing that proved his thesis was wrong as well.
Of course, Morgan’s endorsement of a particular historian for work touching on Morgan’s own area of expertise, did not mean Morgan had redone the research on his own. It did mean that based on Morgan’s own knowledge of the history and context of those places and times, Bellsiles’s argument did not seem amiss.
By coincidence, long before Bellsiles researched or published, I read some of that same record myself, with an eye to writing a paper on hunting and fishing, and their implications for colonial sustenance. I was struck at the time by how salient fishing was in the record, and also by how little mention I could find of infrastructure to support hunting. I went looking for that infrastructure because I could not find much mention of the hunting itself.
Nobody knew those places and times better than Morgan. If he found nothing amiss in Bellsiles’s argument, that almost surely means it would be difficult-to-impossible to prove from that historical record that Bellsiles was mistaken. Absent fresh historical discoveries, that is as far as it can go. Morgan did not defend Bellsiles’s fraud. Nobody has since come forward to show from historical records that there was a ubiquitous and thriving gun culture in pre-revolutionary New England, or in the Mid-Atlantic region.
There is acknowledged evidence to the contrary—particularly from the well-known history of the early colonial struggle against the British, and how difficult it proved to keep Washington’s army supplied with gunpowder—which careful study shows colonial powder mills were inadequate to supply. Worse than inadequate, actually. The shortfall was staggering, which makes it hard to imagine a thriving domestic gun culture pervaded the colonies pre-dating the revolution. But I acknowledge that as an open historical question, awaiting settlement founded on competent records. Unless you can show me something I do not know about, that has not happened yet. Discredit justifiably heaped on Bellsiles does not make the broader historical case you seem to think it does.
Just stop, Nieporent. If you had read the essay I recommended, you would not be making a fool of yourself this way. Oakeshott was a philosopher, a philosopher of history, a historiographer, and a distinguished intellectual historian. His extended exegesis of Hobbes and Leviathan is regarded as a classic, which melds history with analysis of political philosophy—partly to make the point of Hobbes's own reliance on experience instead of on theory.
Also, my commentary on the practice of history has had as a theme the methodological deficiencies of would-be originalists. I know of no better authority on that topic than Oakeshott, even though he wrote mostly before originalism was even a thing.
I re-read your comment. I found some sarcasm followed by a question mark. If you intended an actual, coherent, real-world question, why not ask it that way, and maybe I can understand it and venture an answer.
I think your "pure" historians are few and far between, if they exist at all outside of your own mind.
Leaving that aside for the moment and focusing on the remainder of these impure historians, what do you think it shows that even they can't come up with an argument for a historic understanding of a collective right as strong as the argument for an individual right?
Gunpowder was largely imported because the mercantile theory put all manufacturing in the home country. Not that this rule was consistently followed. Surviving British Board of Trade records from just before the Revolution show quantities of gunpowder imported into the American colonies, totalling 1,030,694 pounds for the years 1769, 1770, and 1771. [United Kingdom Public Records Office, Customs 16:85, 109, 171. In 1769: 229,545 pounds; 1770: 410,591; 1771: 390,558 pounds. These figures are for imports through American ports, and do not include imports through Canadian or West Indian ports.] Of course, this shows only gunpowder imported with knowledge of the Crown; Americans smuggled goods quite regularly during those years, and there was some domestic production of gunpowder as well.[William J. Novak, “Salus Populi: The Roots of Regulation in America, 1787-1873,” (Ph.D. diss., Brandeis University, 1992), 188.] Colonial Americans used gunpowder not only for civilian small arms, but also for cannon, blasting, and (in extremely small quantities), for tattooing. It seems likely that at least some of this million pounds of gunpowder ended up being sold to the British military or Colonial governments, or the Indians. Nonetheless, the quantity is enormous. Even if only one-quarter of that million pounds of gunpowder was used in civilian small arms, that is enough for eleven to seventeen million shots over those three years. [This calculation is based on statutes that assumed four pounds of lead for every pound of gunpowder, and a 0.75 caliber Brown Bess: Browne, Archives of Maryland, 1:77; Andrews, Tercentenary History of Maryland, 1:150; Hening, Statutes at Large, 5:17, 21. Many firearms in Colonial America were smaller caliber, and used less powder, increasing the number of shots that could be fired.]
"But I acknowledge that as an open historical question, awaiting settlement founded on competent records." See my book Armed America, which answers that question.
Well, Lathrop, you certainly satisfied my expectations, claiming that Belesilles committed fraud on behalf of the truth.
Of course, the reason he committed fraud was that such records as he did find said the opposite of his thesis.
Actually, you can find the beginnings of the claim in State v. Buzzard (Ark. 1842).
Any organization that would allow me to be a member is too disreputable for me to want to join.
Groucho said it best. No need to try and rephrase it.
tkamenick — I think it shows most of them have a better ability than you do to judge the relative strengths of various purportedly historical arguments.
Nevertheless, I am happy to concede that some historians are better than others. The profession is pretty good at sorting out the best of them, and giving them prominent faculty positions at prestigious universities. If I had a legal/historical problem which needed professional attention, there would be no point in looking anywhere else.
Isn't it always a valid legal tactic to make sure your expert witness is the acknowledged best guy in the world? If you identify that guy, and take your problem to him, and he tells you there are not good arguments available, you probably will not do yourself any favors by shopping around for some lesser figure willing to agree with you.
If it were me, and an important legal contest turned on an originalist argument, I would try as hard as I could to get on the anti-originalist side, and find a top historian to debunk the originalists' historical claims. That would be an easier task for which to recruit a brilliant expert, and the result would probably be an entertaining victory on all the contested historical points.
You don't think, you just vomit up the same old vomit, time and again and again.
True, but it really only caught on when they started going after federal gun control; Absent incorporation, state gun controllers had little need to challenge the meaning of the 2nd amendment.
Anyway, State v. Buzzard, if I'm reading it right, would likely have turned out very differently if the statute had flatly prohibited the carrying of arms, rather than just prohibiting carrying them concealed. It's best read as defending the proposition that the carrying of arms can be regulated, not that it can be prohibited.