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Eleventh Circuit Finds FDA Treatment of Vaping Product Marketing Applications to be Arbitrary & Capricious
The likelihood that the Supreme Court considers the FDA's treatment of vaping products is increasing.
Yesterday, a divided panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit concluded that the Food and Drug Administration was arbitrary and capricious when it rejected marketing applications from several vaping companies. Because the FDA has deemed vaping products to be "tobacco products" for purposes of federal law, FDA approval is necessary for such products to be sold. The Eleventh Circuit's decision in Bidi Vapor LLC v. FDA, deepens a conflict among the circuit courts over how the FDA should evaluate marketing applications for vaping products and makes eventual Supreme Court review of the question more likely.
Chief Judge Bill Pryor wrote the opinion for the court, joined by Judge Brasher. Judge Rosenbaum dissented (in what is the first dissent I can recall that begins with an all-caps "SPOILER ALERT.")
The basis for the Eleventh Circuit's decision is fairly straight-forward: In rejecting the vaping product applications, the FDA expressly refused to consider the firms' marketing and sales-access-restriction plans to reduce youth access to and consumption of their products. According to the FDA, such measures are not sufficient to reduce youth access, so they did not need to be considered, even though the relevant statute requires the agency to consider whether new tobacco products will attract consumers who do not currently use tobacco products and the FDA had issued prior guidance documents indicating that marketing and sales-access-restrictions were "factors" the FDA "intend[ed] to consider" when evaluating applications, and applicants relied upon the FDA's guidance when preparing their applications.
While the FDA was free to conclude that the marketing and sales-access-restrictions proposed by the various applicants were insufficient, it was not free to simply disregard those parts of the applications. To do so would be to ignore a relevant aspect of the question before the agency, which is a textbook example of arbitrary and capricious decision-making.
The panel majority not only disagreed with their dissenting colleague. They also disagreed with recent decisions from the U.S. Courts of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit and D.C. Circuit rejecting similar claims from vaping companies. Among other things, the Eleventh Circuit disagreed with its sister circuits' interpretation of the FDA's 2020 guidance to concerning product applications. This, combined with the string of other decisions in which federal appellate courts have found fault with the FDA's treatment of vaping product applications, makes me suspect this question could soon be ripe for Supreme Court review.
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Water with some nicotine and no tobacco is a "Tobacco Product"??
Thank you. Suing the FDA now. Useful.
Thank you for not saying "Bruh", Bruh(see how annoying that is)(fortunately I can't see your "Man Bun" on AlGores Internets)
Bruh, nicotine is addictive, but does not cause cancer. One gets addicted to cigarettes. But, the 500 burned natural plant products cause all the health problems.
Where do you get the nicotine?
If it's not "derived" from tobacco, then you might be able to argue that it's not a tobacco product, but the FDA would certainly argue that it's derived in concept from tobacco.
It's not derived from tobacco. Vape products generally contain synthetic nicotine.
I have no idea what 'derived in concept' is supposed to mean. Derived in this context necessarily means 'extracted from'.
Actually, most vape products on the market do use nicotine from tobacco because it is the cheapest and easiest source. There are/were a few enterprising start ups that derive nicotine from other nightshade family plants (tomato or eggplant leaves), and synthetic nicotine is much more expensive. Where this is headed, who knows? but I think in the not too distant future, certain states that have been hostile to vaping and tobacco will seek to ban nicotine itself, or make it available by prescription only.
"In Concept"
WTF does that mean?
IIRC, though other sources are used, (Eggplant, for instance.) Congress actually statutorily defined any product containing nicotine to be a "tobacco" product.
It's rather medically, though not legally, significant, that virtually all the harm from use of genuinely tobacco products derives from the tobacco itself, not the nicotine. Nicotine is just another stimulant, and if you adjust for potency, and administer it in the same way, the effects aren't going to be very different from caffeine. If you administered caffeine by inhalation it would be massively addictive, too.
My point here is that, from a medical standpoint, it's just flatly insane that the FDA is trying to discourage vaping. Vaping carries virtually none of the health consequences of using actual tobacco, if there's any substitution back to tobacco at ALL from discouraging vaping, you're going to worsen public health.
The only real motive for discouraging vaping is Puritanism, the belief that it's wrong because people enjoy doing it.
government arguments against vaping: only underage minors like fruity flavors, and colors, and hip marketing.
Not a particularly bold prediction.
It isn't arbitrary and capricious. It's well thought out and intentional, under pressure from tobacco companies who, having paid off the lawyers driving the tobacco settlements, can now kick out competitors with abandon as they did the crime and paid their fine. All profits are gravy now, no more fear.
One tobacco-owned vaping company even fell on its sword, pretending to be noble and responsible, when in fact it was helping build a fear cachet of its product to justify crushing regulation on it and, gee, the industry as a whole.
Immediately, a South Carolina Republican senator, IIRC, introduced such legislation.
I have no idea if vaping products are safe, or safer than the alternative, nor if they are a gateway drug to cigarettes. I do know everyone's been played like a song.
Umm, in the sense they don't cause Cancer/Heart Disease they're safer than the Marriage-a-Juan-a (only use it medicinally because of my Glaucoma)
But wait, agencies like the FDA and EPA must have the power to make whatever laws their detached expertise suggests to them that they should make, in their infinite wisdom. Otherwise, how are we going to have any government at all?
No one says this, bevis.
Whoooosh
Sure. That’s exactly what a lot of people were saying after the fascist Supreme Court kept the EPA from violating the plain language of the clean air act. But predictably, you’ll never admit it.
Disagreeing with you as to what the 'plain language' says is in now way the same as saying agency power should be unreviewable.
Come on, dude.
You’ve shifted the argument. The point I was making was that the outcry was that if we don’t let the agencies do what they want then nothing will get done. Certainly they won’t abuse the power and actually legislate. I clearly remember you taking that position.
Now, here’s an agency regularly getting swatted by the courts for actually going way beyond their mandate and trying to drive an entire industry into oblivion because someone in the current admin has a bug up their but about teen smoking.
That was the point. Y’all all said “these experts won’t go beyond their legislated mandate but if they don’t how will we policy we want?” Yet here’s an agency regularly going miles and miles beyond their mandate.
I have no interest at all in arguing about the EPA decision.
Your argument was that people were arguing agencies have whatever power they want. They don't; no one says that.
You're excluding the middle very hard when you conflate calls for agency expertise to be given credit with calls for them to have authority to do 'make whatever laws they want.'
And the EPA is not getting regularly swatted; there are like 2 cases.
The FDA is the agency that’s getting regularly swatted.